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Hi - We are looking into getting a 2nd car and are
contemplating between an SUV and a wagon. I really want a more
fuel efficient car, but can't really afford a hybrid. Cars we
are considering (all used): Ford Escape ('06), Subaru Outback
or Forester ('05's or '06's), Toyota Highlander ('04),
Hyundai Santa Fe ('05 or '06), Mercedes
C class wagon ('04 or older), Lexus RX 300 ('01 or '02). Does
anyone have any experience with these cars that they can
recommend one over another? Main purpose will be driving
town with the dog and baby, and occasional trips to Tahoe
during the winter, so really probably need AWD. Looking for at
least 20+ MPG in terms of fuel-efficiency. Also, if you have a
used car dealer that you would recommend working with, that
would be great as well.
secret SUV lover
I've driven an Subaru station wagon for a few years and it does
well in the snow. The other SUV's are too dangerous for taking
kids around town because they roll over so frequently.
We're looking to buy a new car. We thought we had decided on
the Honda CRV. Then my husband went to the Chevy website and
discovered the Equinox. The only reason we're considering it,
is because my husband gets a pretty good discount on GM cars
because of his business. We know the CRV has great ratings in
crash tests and by Consumer Reports. I've had a Honda Accord
for 13 years and it still runs well. We have yet to test drive
the Equinox. But our bias is against it, because American cars
don't have such a good reputation. Does anyone out there own an
Equinox? Does it require a lot of service? How long have you
had it? Would you buy it again? We're looking for a small SUV
because we have a 19 month old son and we find a normal trunk
vs a SUV trunk is too small to lug around a jogging stroller or
other baby things. We're getting rid of my husband's small
Saturn coupe that is definitely not a family car! We may have
another kid and we may not, so we don't want a huge SUV or
minivan. Any thoughts on this? Any recommendations?
My new company car is a chevy equinox and I think it's great
(had it since November). Ofcourse I didn't pay for it but I saw
the sticker and its pretty inexpensive and I find that the
quality is good. I have the LS model without AWD. The seats
are comfortable, the back seat moves back and forth so you can
have lots of legroom in the rear seat or have extra storage
space in the way back. Its pretty fast and it drives really
well considering its list price is $21K. I would actually
consider purchasing this car for myself if I needed an
inexpensive vehicle that was decent, good size, easy to drive
and rated 5 star for front and side impacts. It does suck gas
however...approx 20 mph for me but I drive up and down the hills.
I would like to encourage you to rethink your choices a little
bit, and factor in gas mileage. If you've been driving a Honda
civic and a Saturn coupe, you've been getting great mileage --
far better than you'd get with either of the cars you're
considering. I'll tell you why I think that's important in a
minute, but first let's think about what you need in terms of room.
You have one 19 month old kid, and may or may not have another.
Now at 19 months, kids still need a lot of gear. But by 3 they
need much less and by 4, they hardly need anything. So rather
than buy a bigger car to fit the jog stroller, it might make more
sense to buy a more compact jog stroller -- it's not going to be
a part of your life for that much longer.
I have one kid, but I drive a carpool so I frequently have three
kids in my car ranging in age from 3 to 6. My kid likes to bike,
as do my husband and I, and we camp and backpack frequently. We
drive a Prius and a Saturn SL2. Small cars by today's standards,
but perfectly roomy for us -- particularly the Prius which is
amazingly spacious. I can easily fit three kids in my car, plus
bikes on top (my son's bike fits in the hatchback of the Prius.)
And I get close to 30 mph in the Saturn and close to 45 in the Prius.
Now, why should you care about mileage when you really want that
roomy trunk? I assume you already know about global warming (as I
type this the news ticker at the bottom of my screen is flashing
the headline ''Study Shows Anarctic Glaciers Shrinking'') and about
the immense consequences our children will have to face as a
consequence -- killer storms, mass extinctions, raging epidemics,
and water shortages among them. You also probably know that if
American cars averaged 40 mpg, we would save 4 million gallons of
oil per day -- more oil by far than is in the Alaska National
Wildlife Refuge, for instance. But what you may not know is that
gas prices are about to get much much higher. We will hit $3 a
gallon any day now, and what isn't being talked about in the US
press, (but is a big topic in the international press) is that
this is just the beginning of the End of Oil. It seems that Saudi
oil fields are already bottoming out and as the reserves get
lower, it gets more expensive to get oil out of the ground.
Combine that with the increasing demand worldwide (because of our
own appetite for big cars, and because of China's ever-increasing
oil consumption) and you have gas prices that will continue to go
up for the forseeable future.
Just my two cents.
I need advice on what type of car to buy at the end of my
current lease. For the past 10 years I have enjoyed driving 3
different Land Rover Discoveries. The problem? GAS PRICES!! I
pay upwards of $50 to fill my tank. I get 13 miles to the
gallon and feel like I am filling my tank every few days. I am
not interested in moralizing about SUVs and gasoline
consumption, I am just looking for advice.
I have 2 children ages 3 and 6 months so I carry a fair amount
of gear with me. My husband is also 6'4'' which limits our
I am considering a wagon rather than an SUV because I feel like
it will give me the cargo space but save on gas and drive more
like a car and less like a truck.
My lease is up in about 6 months so I want to start looking
around now. Is there anyone out there who LOVES their wagon?
Please tell me what you love about it. Any recommendations
would be appreciated!
And, please don't recommend a mini-van - I'm way too vain :o)
We are very satisfied with our 1999 Mercedes E320 Wagon, a
lease-return we got a couple years ago via an Oakland-based
broker (www.carsmithmotors.com). New they're very expensive, but
if you can find a good deal on a used one it makes a terrific
family car -- easy to drive, comfortable, OK gas mileage and
safer than an SUV. It also has a fold-up double bench seat (with
seatbelts) in the rear cargo area, so we've been able to fit as
many as five adults along with two large carseats for our little
We LOVE our Audi Allroad wagon. It has all-wheel drive, so we
can go to the snow with no trouble. It is much easier to park
than our previous SUVs (an Explorer and a Mercedes), drinks far
less gas, drives great, and fits us, our 2 kids (with carseats)
as well as all our luggage/junk and 2 big dogs in the back when
we go to Tahoe. I'll never go back! I would say if you did
need more space for stuff you could always get a cargo box for
the top. Sidenote: if you decide on an Audi: it's worth the
trip to Carlsen Audi in Palo Alto. They had by far the best
pricing and best trade in policy around the bay area. Good
''Is there anyone out there who LOVES their wagon?''
I DO! I'd suggest you run out and test drive a Passat Wagon. I love love love
my car. You list your car issues as; 1. Gas Prices/Gas Mileage, 2. Need to carry
2 kids and all their gear, 3. Tall Husband
1. Gas Prices/Gas Mileage. My tank holds about 12 gallons and I've been
averaging around 28 mpg. My driving is a pretty equal mix between city and
highway. During the week it's mostly city driving (through Oakland and
Alameda) and on the weekend it's much more highway driving (to get outta
here!) The VW Passat Wagon requires Premium Unleaded....bummer. So you'll
certainly be paying more per gallon, but a fill up has been running me $27-
$30 and I fill up about once a week or sometimes I can go a little over a week, I
don't really drive far from home during the week. The car has a cool little
computer function which will show you the average mpg you're getting at any
given moment or during a ''trip'' so if I believe the computer in the car, it's
about 28 mpg...not too shabby! Much better than the 13 mpg you're used to.
2. Need to carry 2 kids and their gear. I only have 1 kid (at the moment) but
I've put my friends kids back there and we've gotten 3 carseats in the back.
Sure, it was a tight squeeze with the 2 roundabouts and the booster seat for
the 4-year old, but we got everything buckled in, threw a double stroller and a
single stroller plus 2 diaper bags, 2 moms took a couple hours shopping, and
still managed to get all the shopping bags in the car as well. Before kids when
we first got the car, we didn't have a bike rack yet but were able to lay the back
seats down and put both of our mountain bikes in the back. We've also been
camping with all our gear, bikes, stroller AND bike trailer back there. I don't
typically fill the car like that, usually it's just me, one carseat, and the stroller
permanently lives in the cargo space. I have plenty of room for groceries and
lots of space left over.
3. Tall Husband; Me too. Which is why I let him pick the car. When we were
test-driving we first tried the Jetta Wagon but the Passat Wagon was soooo
much roomier. He's over 6' and the ''shortest'' of his family. My father-in-law
is quite tall and doesn't feel cramped in my car. After we got our wagon, he
and his wife bought the sedan, they liked it so much. My husband can fit in
the backseat without too much discomfort. When we have a full car, since I'm
the shortest of the family, I usually sit behind my husband while he's driving
with the seat all the way back and I still have room for my legs.
We're actually on our 2nd wagon now, we were leasing the first. The prices
went down last year so we turned in the leased wagon, paid a penalty for
ending it early and bought the new wagon without any price difference. (By the
way, we did that through www.carsdirect.com and had a wonderful experience!
We'll never buy a car without the internet ever again!)
Good luck with your wagon search. We really enjoy our car and hope you find
one that you love as much as we love ours.
We just went through the same thing, only were moving up from a
tiny car. Not too many wagons out there these days! We looked at
Subarus and Hondas (who aren't making wagons right now). We
opted for the CR-V. It's not a ''big'' SUV, so it gets good
mileage, it's super safe, and is almost tied with the Forester
for best small SUV. We opted for it over the Forester because
it's super spacious on the inside (you said your husband was
tall?) and it doesn't need maintenance until 100k. So far we
love it! I recommend getting a Consumer Reports membership (you
can get a monthly one for $4.95) and comparing the cars there,
it'll tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about the specs on
all the cars out there.
happy new car owner
We love our Audi wagon. It drives like a car but has really good cargo
room. We've taken it on several car-trip vacations around the state and it
is very comfortable. We had a Volvo wagon before that and loved it, too.
Many wagons come with 4-wheel or all-wheel drive now (Subaru, Audi,
Volvo), so if you do go to the mountains or anything else that might
require SUV-like capabilities, you can get it in a wagon.
Driving a wagon like my mother did--and loving it
We have a BMW 5-series wagon that we love. Handles well, lots
of room for 2 kids and a dog and gets about 25 miles to the
gallon. (Although the car I am REALLY in love with is our new
Prius...) I would under no circumstances consider an SUV--they
are incredibly unsafe for you, your kids and other cars on the
road because of the roll-over factor. Not to mention the waste
of gas, which I will refrain from moralizing on, no matter now
We have a 2002 Passat wagon and we love it. Gas mileage is great
and it is roomy enough for my husband, who is six foot five
inches. We even got the sun roof and he still fits into the car
It's even plenty zippy without the bigger engine (ours is
standard, not automatic.) Plenty of room for us, our two-year
old, and the dog in the back.
Check the new ford Freestyle, a new ''crossover'' station wagon, which I
just got and LOVE. It has 3 rows of seats, and lots of cargo space . It
drives like a car and has great mileage. I have never bought american
cars, but this one has a volvo platform and feels solid....
Check it out at edmunds.com---- lots of info
Get a wagon! We just got a used 99 Volvo wagon and we LOVE it.
Cargo space (and passenger space) in SUVs is seriously overrated.
We can fit tons in our Volvo, PLUS 3 adults and 2 carseats.
Hi - I have a Volvo V40 Wagon, my husband has a small SUV - a
Honda CRV. So I can give you my/our thoughts on both.
First of all, even though my husband probably gets more
politically misinformed glares driving his CRV, it gets about
the same gas mileage as my Volvo, and is a certified LEV (Low
Emissions Vehicle) to boot. We considered waiting until the
Toyota Highlander hybrid came out, but found out that the gas
mileage would be about the same. We get about 22-25 mpg with
For zipping around town I like to drive my Volvo. It's low to
the ground & drives like a sports car. Even though the CRV is
not a huge SUV, it defintely feels taller and more tippy. The
Volvo is fancier on the inside and more comfortable to sit in -
for the driver. So, yes, I would say I love my wagon. It's no
problem to carry your basic parent stuff. I generally drive
around with a large stroller AND my golf clubs in the back at
However, we just took a long road trip and there was no
question - we took the CRV. It just holds so much more without
blocking the rear window, and is more comfortable for the kids.
They like being higher up and more able to view the scenery.
Now, the CRV is small compared to a Land Rover, so if you decide
to go with a smaller SUV, there will be an adjusment. We can
just barely fit a young teen between the two carseats in the
back, and once our kids move up to the bigger carseats there
will probably be no room between them.
Have fun comparison shopping. We have found sites like
edmunds.com to be very helpful.
In response to your query whether anybody loves their wagon - we do! We got a
2004 Passat Wagon (V6) that my husband and I totally love. It holds a lot - the rear
seats split so you can get even more stuff in if you need to. It has lots of wonderful
safety features (which I really notice since my car is now 10 years old and since we
got the Passat I don't feel halfway as safe as I do when we're driving in my
husband's Passat). It's very comfortable, has a great sound system, excellent interior
design particularly on the dashboard. It was very highly rated by Consumer Reports
at the time. We couldn't be happier. Mind you, we only have one child and not as
much gear as you, but the car is really excellent. I know that Consumer Reports just
came out with the annual car buying issue, so you should probably check that out as
well to see what they rate the best these days. Every year, there are great new
features it seems. Good luck!
Wish I could get a new car, too...
We have 3 children (two in car seats) and a 5 passenger car. We
need to move up to something larger so that our children can
occasionally bring a friend along or so that we can take my
parents out for a family dinner once in a while.
A: It seems that many of the smaller 7 passenger products out
there place their third row right up against the rear window.
This seems a little unsafe to me (what if we were rear ended?).
B: And then there are social issues... SUV drivers and minivan
drivers both seem to get a lot of bad press. On one side there
are environmental issues and 'what do you need a truck in the
suburbs for' (even though there are hybrids available - most
taunters can't differentiate)... and on the other side there is
a perceived total loss of coolness/hippness...
How can we cart all of these people around safely and drive
something that doesn't make my husband and I feel that we have
become styleless chauffeur?
This note is not meant to offend SUV or minivan drivers. We are
interested in knowing what made other people choose so that we
Van or SUV?
We are the happy, extremely satisfied owners of a Chrysler
Pacifica. The reasons we bought it are pretty much the same
ones you listed - need more room, but wanted something safe and
stylish. It has 3rd row seating that conveniently folds down
when you don't need it, making for tons of cargo space; when
you are using it, it feels comfy and not squashed - friends who
have ridden in that back row have told me that usually they get
carsick when in the back of minivans, but not in the Pacifica.
It's a dream to drive, the gas mileage is quite respectable,
incredibly comfortable and airbags galore - it has an EXCELLENT
safety rating. Check it out - we couldn't be happier with ours!
Stylish non-van/SUV driver
If you're looking for a bigger yet environmetnally responsible car, try the new Ford
Escape Hybrid. It uses the same time-tested technology as the Toyota Prius (what I
drive) and has a big ''HYBRID'' mark on it so everyone will know. Sadly, the
salespeople at the Ford Dealership in Downtown Oakland were utterly clueless (not
to mention rude) when I asked about the hybrid SUV so try another dealership.
I am a minivan owner and its nice that we get to feel morally
superior to, if much less cool than, those SUV owners (see
article reference below), but there are good reasons to go for
minivans over SUVs, if they match what you are looking for. SUVs
are usually a lot noisier inside, a lot less comfortable inside,
less roomy, less safe (though it is unclear if this is due to the
cars or the people who drive them) and they typically seat fewer
passengers. Adult extra passengers greatly appreciate the
comfort of the captain's chairs in the second row of minivans.
Or you can opt for a bench seat in some minivan models and get
eight seats which means that each of your children will be able
to take a friend along.
I'd say the choice boils down to what is more important to you:
not wanting to feel like a styleless chauffeur, or chauffeuring
in style. Take an SUV and minivan for a nice long test drive and
make sure you get on the highway, pick up some drinks and check
out the convenience of the holders :). Chances are you'll be
much more comfortable in the minivan even though you don't feel
hip. After all, minivan makers, according to the article below,
are trying to make you feel as if you have returned to the womb.
Since my parents live at Lake Tahoe and we go there many times
each year we opted for the Sienna AWD (you can't get this model
with 8 seats, sadly). Maybe you could go for that to ease the
pain of being a minivan driver. After owning a Subaru AWD
station wagon (which we considered hipper than a minivan) I can
say that the minivan is so great that it was easy to make my
peace with it.
You may get referred to this article several times. It is
interesting to see how the SUV and Minivan makers see their
For example, minivan buyers tend to be more comfortable than
sport-utility buyers with being married; sport-utility buyers are
more commonly concerned with still feeling sexy, and they like
the idea that they could use their vehicles to start dating
again, said David P. Bostwick, DaimlerChrysler's director of
''We have a basic resistance in our society to admitting that we
are parents and no longer able to go out and find another mate,''
Bostwick said. ''If you have a sport-utility, you can have the
smoked windows, put the children in the back and pretend you're
3 kids, love my van
After much deliberation myself, I am getting a minivan (Toyota
Sienna). My self esteem allows me to get past the boring/un-
hip reputation of minivan drivers. The Sienna is insanely
parent friendly with so many gadgets that my husband thought it
was cool. SUVs are fine, but not really geared for easy access
to the third row if the car seats are put in the middle row. Also, the hybrids really don't do much for gas mileage (really,
what is the point of a v-8 hybrid? So, you two miles to the
gallon better gas mileage...I guess that you must be an
environmentalist now...Oh, I drive an SUV now, so I am not
knocking SUV drivers...I just think the hybrid thing is
soon to be horribly unhip
I would like to recommend whole-heartedly to get a minivan over
an SUV. We just bought a new minivan (we have three children
and two large dogs), the Toyota Sienna and absolutely love it. It doesn't feel like a minivan at all, more like a BMW. We do
not care about style, image or what other people think but we
went for safety, reliability and convenience. While many of
the SUV's now have a third row, it is very hard to reach
it,i.e. there's a lot of climbing over the 2nd row which is
hard when you have a car seat there etc. Also, a third row
virtually eliminates storage in the trunk. Finally, I believe
that many minivans still get slightly better gas mileage than
SUV's but I could be wrong. There is also a difference in size
among the minivans, the new Sienna, Odyssey and Freestar being
among the largest, but the Mazda MPV, the Kia and some of the
other American vans are smaller. And yes, there is that
dilemma of having a large vehicle but how will you transport
all of your children and gear safely? Hope that helps!
love my minivan
We are in the same predicament, but we have 3 carseats. I am
considering the acura mdx. To us, the back seat is in a
similar position, if not better than most minivans. I am
pretty much sold on it, but i would like to talk to some actual
owners to get their opinions. so anybody out there that has an
mdx--7 seater. Let us know how you like the car.
We were in your dilemma, and broke down finally and got a
minivan! Now we are wondering what took us so long! We
absolutely love it. Our parents and the kids' friends can all
comfortably join us in a drive about. The nice thing about the
minivan vs. suv is access. Getting into the third row of the
SUV is not easy - our friends bought a new Toyota Highlander
with third row, and it's cramped and hard for the kids to get
in - they have to climb over seats, etc. With the minivan, we
have 2 car seats in way back (with space in between for
another!), and then 2nd row, we have two bucket seats, with one
car seat. So very comfortable. I love it - and with all the
storage and the driving you do with the kids - this is by far
the best way to go, in my opinion! Good luck.
When we discovered ourselves pregnant last year, my husband and I immediately
realized my '95 Civic hatchback nor my husband's '90 Acura hatchback was going to
cut it once a baby arrived. I really wanted a stationwagon but my husband cannot
get his head around a station wagon having any redeemable qualities; we both
weren't ready for the mini-van. After much thought and research (and examining
our budget, of course) we decided to buy a used '96 Pathfinder and sell the Acura. One, we have 2 dogs and camp a lot, and we just bought a house we are doing a fair
amount of work on. Two, that SUV is going to be on the road regardless. Granted,
so are the millions of other cars with far better gas milage, and that reasoning was
more my husband's than mine, but that's what I was left with when all was said and
done. My husband drives the Honda to work every day, and since I work from home
on work days the Pathfinder sits in the driveway quite a bit. And to be honest, I still
feel like a jerk driving the SUV a lot of the time, though whenever we went camping
or I went to the tool lending library and Home Depot for a house project, I
absolutely loved it. So there is our example. Good luck.
We too have 3 children to drive around town. 2 are in car seats
and will be for at least another 4 years.
We opted for the Chevy Suburban. It is the best thing we could
have ever done! Not only do we have the space to house our kids
and car seats, but we have plenty of room to keep strollers,
book bags, groceries and 2 or three other adults if needed. The
seats can also be re-configured to make room for almost
anything you might need to carry. This SUV is SAFE, SAFE, SAFE.
Did I mention safe? We have side curtain airbags, front
passenger, driver airbags, etc. We opted for a DVD player for
long car trips (a life saver). The gas mileage is not as bad as
you would think. If we fill up, we can get about 460 to 480
miles out of a full tank of gas. Very comfy ride and handles
great for the size. True, Suburbans are not for everyone, but
if you would like to be a formatable opponent on the road, keep
your kids and passengers safe while still looking cool, it is a
definate winner. I'll never buy any other SUV, even when the
kids get older.
Suburban in the City
We gave up a very ''cool'' car for a minivan a few months ago. I
thought we would miss the car. We don't! The space, convenience
and comfort outweigh any coolness we have lost. ALthough, I
think ours is quite cool for a minivan. To all those saying we
are wasteful gas guzzlers--we make less trips in our car b/c we
can fit so much more in it when we are out, we can fit our
friends and their kids in with us and eliminate the need for
more than 1 car on a lot of trips, and we get just about the
same gas mileage as our last car did. I have never noticed any
snide looks from other drivers and a lot of people ask about
it. It's an '04 Nissan Quest. There is a lot of room behind the
3rd row seats so you aren't close to windows. The 3rd row seat
is very comfortable too. We test drove the Honda and Toyota
versions and thought Nissan was the best fit for us. It has had
some small recalls, nothing major. Overall, we are very happy
with our choice and highly recommend it.
I drive a minivan, and while I don't like the ''loss of coolness'' factor,
minivans are safer than suvs which are on a truck body. I talked this
over with my brother who is an excellent consumer and he looked up
safety ratings which I found compelling. Since you expressed concern
about the safety issue (i.e., back seat being too close to rear window in
some cars), this might be relevant for you. If it's a choice between being
nerdy and unsafe/environmentally unfriendly, I'll pick nerdy.
Finally, there is recent literature pointing to the hazards to *other* cars
when a collision occurs with an suv.
well we just took that plunge with our second child on the way
in march and our best kid car a 4 seater nissan sentra. we just
bought ourselves a mini-van. Not an SUV because many don't really seat more than 5
comfortably - just have lots of leg room and some cargo space.
The mini-vans are more versatile since you can take out the back
seat for more stuff and put it in for trips with more than just
the family - kids friends will soon need rides and sometimes our
friends and relatives. We want something that will still be good
a few years from now for all these activities.
My husband became something of a ''mini-van snob'' (his words, not
mine) during the search - we can't afford new. The safety
records of honda oddessy and toyota sienna are great, though the
reports don't differentiate between the various seats. There are
lots of new safety features added to the odessy as of 2002- anti-
lock brakes, side air bags in the front - not sure what else.
as for being ''taunted'' well you have to do what is practical for
you, don't you? I think the problems a lot of people have with
all the large vehicles is that people buy them and then don't
use all the extra space. all that extra gas, parking space and
road visibility (for other drivers)is kind of a waste when just
one or two people ride the vast majority of the time. that
doesn't sound like the case for you. if people want to judge you
they will find some reason to do just that - let it be their
About 6 years ago, I was single and needed to buy a new
vehicle. As an artist, I wanted something that I could use to
haul large paintings around in. I thought an SUV would be
perfect, test-drove a few and was close to getting the Toyota 4-
runner. Then I saw a Toyota Sienna on the dealer's lot and
discovered it would hold as much as a small cargo van if its
seats were taken out. So I test drove it, felt it handled the
road MUCH better than the SUV, and decided to buy it. Boy did I
have to defend driving a minivan to my single friends - that is
until they needed help moving... I once fit the contents of my
friends entire apartment in my van!
Today, I'm married, have 2 toddlers and (110,000 miles later)
still have and love my Sienna! I can load it up with carseats
and all the kids gear, and have room for friends and family to
travel with us. It gets better gas mileage than an SUV, handles
like a Toyota Avalon (same chassis), has a great safety record,
and has been completely reliable. My parents (who are in their
late 60's) drove mine a few times, loved how comfortable it was
and how easy it was to get in and out of, and decided to buy one
for themselves instead of a great-big-american sedan. They've
been extremely happy with it as well. So my 2 cents: forget
the stigma, go for the minivan. You won't regret it!
We have a Honda CRV, which is ideal for our new baby and dog.
However, the bumpy ride is starting to really bother my
husband's back (he has a painful lower-back problem). We have
looked into other options (new tires, etc.) and the one that
sounds like it will be the most effective is a suspension kit.
Does anyone have other recommendations? Or if you have gotten a
suspension kit installed and can recommend, or steer us away
from, a particular auto shop for this, we'd love to hear from
Looking for a smooth SUV ride
I think you should test drive a Subaru Forrester. They are
comprable in size and the ride is amazing. The all wheel drive
is superb. It really smooths out all the bumps. It is also
incredible to get into and out of. Not too high or too low. We
had one for 3 years but sold it only because we bought a minivan
for more room.I miss it something fierce.
all wheel drive lover
Consult with Art's Automotive on San Pablo. They know
everything there is to know about Japanese automobiles and they
are the most responsible, trustworthy business I have ever had
the pleasure of dealing with. I recommend them here all the
time. They have a Web site (www.artsautomotive.com) and they
are at 2871 San Pablo Ave. Berkeley, CA, (510) 540-7093.
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