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Organic Milk vs. TJ's regular milk?

Jan 2009

I'm having a debate w/ my husband about which is better. ORganic milk is about twice the price of Trader Joe's regular milk. The regular milk claims to not use growth hormones either, so what is the benefit of buying organic milk - of course, the socially responsible choice - but are there other health benefits to organic milk? confused


BUY ORGANIC MILK PRODUCTS! Dairy is one of the MOST important things to buy organic because pesticides settle in the fat of animals who eat non-organic feed. That fat is expressed in the milk of cows... but all organic dairy products if you buy anything organic! Also important are strawberries, celery, potatoes and apples. http://www.parents.com/recipes/nutrition/kids/what-to-buy-organic/?page=1 Organic is BEST!
I have had alot of trouble lately buying good milk. While many brands all boast that they do not use the harmone BHT (or whatever it is)on their cows, the milk has the distinct taste of chemicals/drugs. I have found this at several stores after buying multiple gallons from each store. I can't say what is so special about ''organic'' milk, but can advise you that all ''regular'' milk is not the same judging by the taste. I return all milk that tastes of chemicals. My family members concur with the chemical taste as well. The Lucky store near us sells regular milk that tastes like regular milk with no chemicals. I suspect all the milk brands put the ''our cows are not treated with BHT'' labels on the bottles to keep sales up but what goes in the jug is a different story and nobody but us notices and nobody is checking. Maybe ''organic'' is a safer bet. I tried Trader Joe's regular milk and it seemed fine to me. Safeway has the tainted milk as well as other area markets. concerned milk drinker
Check out this website: http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/index.html. Lots of information on organic milk. There's more to it than just whether it is organic or not - and I think this report actually rates Clover regular milk as more ethical than TJs (from memory). I don't buy TJ's milk at all any more. anon
Yes, there is a huge difference between organic and non organic milk. You can look at it from 2 sides: what's not in organic milk (pesticides, herbicides etc.) but also, what organic milk has that convential milk does not and this includes increased levels of nutrients, omega 3 fatty acids and other good stuff, see this link: http://www.netnutritionist.com/qa21_organic_milk_benefits.htm Actually Buy Goat Milk
Organic milk has more nutrients than conventional. Here?s a quick link I found: http://www.organicfacts.net/organic-animal-products/organic-milk/health-benefits-of-organic-milk.html Cows that produce non-organic milk can be fed just about anything including melamine tainted feed, GMO feed, antibiotics, etc. Non-organic cows also don?t need to be treated as well, for example they aren?t required to have access to open pasture. But chances are good that the conventional milk at Trader Joe?s is probably from a decent dairy such as Clover or Berkeley Farms. Let?s hope, because I?ve had to switch over myself recently to save money. anon

Freshest organic farm eggs

March 2008

I'm looking for a good recommendation for super fresh farm eggs. Do you buy them from a store? From one of the farmer's markets? Let me know! Cost is not a big deal. dreaming of bright yellow yolks


I get my eggs at the Saturday Farmers Market in Berkeley. Both Riverdog Farm and Kaki Farm have fresh eggs from pastured chickens. Riverdog's eggs are organic but Kaki are not certified. Both are delicious and very fresh. Kelly
I am sorry that I don't have an answer to your question, just a comment. Good eggs have orange yolks, not yellow. pete
As a bedtime story, I tell my little girl about visiting my grandmother on her farm, and her making me an egg fresh from the hen house every morning... Since I prefer not to live in Iowa, I try to buy eggs from Petaluma. If you visit the SF Ferry Market on Saturday morning, there are several sellers who will explain to you their many varieties of farm fresh eggs. When I can't make it to the Ferry market, I buy Judy's which are sold at Whole Foods, and probably other ''organic'' grocery stores. There also was an article in the SF Chronicle Food section maybe 6 months ago about where to buy farm fresh eggs. still love fresh eggs
In my opinion the very best in the bay area are from 3 stone hearth. You can order online www.threestonehearth.com and pick up in Berkeley near Aquatic Park. There food is wonderful and ''truly'' organic. The yolks of their eggs are the yellowest that I have seen and they are quite tasty. If I can't make it there for any reason, my second favorite is Mr. Davis (he's an older gentleman that also sells pecans, brittle, potatoes and pies) at the Tuesday Berkeley Farmer's Market on Derby and MLK. Enjoy! Egg snob in Berkeley
Just a comment about color of yolks: it depends on the variety of chicken and what they eat. For example, some farmers feed their chickens marigolds to make the yolks darker yellow/orange.

Organic Goat Milk

April 2004

We'd like to feed our year-old twins organic goat milk when I stop breastfeeding, but have been surprised to find that organic doesn't seem to be available locally. Has anyone else looked with more success? Thanks in advance, Amy


The only product I've seen is the Meyenberg brand and per their website: ''MEYENBERG products are completely natural without preservatives, no antibiotics, or bovine growth hormones (rBGH).'' That might be as close to natural as you can probably get. And I believe you can find them in the supermarkets as well as the natural food stores. Otherwise you might want to find a goat breeder who raises goats organically and get milk from them. Does anyone out there know of any breeders in the bay? anon

Vacuum-packed Milk

July 2004

My husband and I are going to be taking our 18 month old son in August to Mongolia and China. I know that they have milk available there, but I'm a bit worried that it may not taste the same as the milk here. I've heard that Horizon makes a vaccuum packed milk but I haven't seen it anywhere. Does anybody know where I can find this product? Or have any other suggestions for transporting milk on a 20 hour flight? We will have a refrigerator in our hotel room but that's a long time for milk not to be refrigerated. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Kelly


Whole Foods and Yasai market on College, but they are expensive! Ariel
We just found cartons of milk that do not need to be refrigerated at Andronico's (Shattuck & Cedar, juice-box size) and Monterey Market (quart size, made by Parmalat). robin
We buy vacuum packed parmalat milk at Berkeley Bowl (it's right next to the soy milk), comes in 8 0z. packages, tastes fine, we use it for camping or car trips. mama2
I don't have firsthand experience with vacuum packed cow's milk, but I have seen it in the Carribbean so I'm guessing it would be okay for your purposes. I can, however, recommend vacuum packed rice milk, which my son drinks because he is allergic to dairy. When I was trying to wean him he would not drink soy formula or soy milk, because they taste and smell pretty bad, but he took to rice milk just fine. I now use it on my cereal because it is so much easier than cow's milk, and it tastes good--very mild, sort of sweet (which makes it great on cereal), no unpleasant smell, and the Rice Dream Enriched brand is vitamin and calcium fortified. They make chocolate and vanilla too, but we like the plain enriched version. It's so convenient because you can always have it a supply in the cabinet (they are good for about a year before opening!), and in the earthquake kit. They make juice box-sized 3-packs also, which are good for travelling but not as economical. The 32- oz. box would probably be the best for your purposes. Good luck! Tracy
April 2004

I'm returning to work only after 7 weeks of maternity leave. I may need to supplement breastmilk with formula. I'm looking for organic formula brands. Also, how does the price of organic forumla compare with non-organic? Is organic forumla worth the cost? Suggestions are much appreciated. Jenny


Horizon organic is the only organic formula that I've seen (and purchased). It seems to run from $3-$5 more than the non-organic brands, if I remember correctly. Deborah
I don't believe there are any organic formulas for infants (under 12 months) out on the market; only for toddlers. You could pump at night/work to make up for the times you're not with your baby. But if this is not working out then you might want to look into organic goat milk. It is are easily digestible and closer to human breastmilk than cow's milk or commercial formulas. Meyenberg is a well-known producer of goat milk. Check out their website at www.meyenberg.com. Good luck. anon
In one of the previous responses someone wrote in that there is only organic formula for toddlers. The other brand besides Horizon, I think it's called Baby's Best, does say ''for toddlers'' on the label. But a friend of mine actually called the company to ask them about this -- they told her that the formula is fine for infants, and that the reason they say ''for toddlers'' on there is because they believe babies should be breastfed until at least 1 year old. (What I'd like to ask them is what about those babies whose mothers are unable to breastfeed?) You might want to call them directly to hear their explanation first hand. In any case, at around 7 months my son started getting some of the Babys Best organic formula and had no problems. It can be purchased at any of the natural food stores and at Elephant Pharmacy. anon
Here's another posting about ORGANIC FORMULA. There is a great brand that I used for the whole first year of my daughter's life. It's called BABY'S ONLY Organic Toddler Formula. I printed out a list of the nutrition facts and compared them to other infant formulas. The only significant differences seemed to be a tiny bit more calcium and fiber. My pediatrician checked out the information and agreed with me that it would be appropriate for an infant. It comes in dairy and soy. The cost is $10-11/can, but you can get case discounts at Whole Foods, Berkeley Bowl, and Berkeley/El Cerrito Natural Foods. I never had a full milk supply due to prior surgery, so I had no choice but to supplement. I'm studying for my Masters in Holistic Nutrition, and I've always tried to eat organic, so it was really important for me to find a healthy alternative for my baby. She just turned one, and she is very healthy. I recommend the website, which can answer any questions for you. www.naturesone.com

P.S. The company will send you 2 free cans of formula for every 24 proof-of-purchase seals that you send in.


Milk Delivery?

April 2003

Some time ago, I read about a milkman who delivers in Marin and San Francisco, but now I cannot find any information about his service. Does anybody know of a milk delivery service in the bay area? It would be my dream come true to have milk brought to my door...
Thirsty in San Francisco


The man you are referring to is Mike, the Milkman---he delivers from the South Bay all the way up to Marin, with a few East Bay spots thrown in. His number is 800-464-MILK. Very reasonable prices. Deniene
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