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King size mattress that doesn't sag too quickly

Sept 2009

I am about to buy a king-size mattress and am looking for some recommendations for a mattress that doesn't sag too quickly. I have heard that European Sleep Works has good mattresses, and am wondering if they are worth the hefty price, and if you can just buy the mattress or need the whole system. Also curious about the foam/memory mattresses. Do Pillow tops last? Any recs would be appreciated. Thanks! anon

We purchased a European Sleepworks king mattress in 2004 and love it! It's firm, adjustable, and because of the two slat system (one for each side), my husband and I never disturb each other as we get in and out of our sides of the bed. It took a week to get used to the bed but it's been great since then. We are even considering buying one for our son. It's cheaper than Duxiana but I feel just as good. We won't be turning back. As for the pillows, we have never tried them but are considering it as we are happy with the bed. anon
In my experience with mattresses, you get what you paid for. We shelled out the extra $$ for a McCroskey mattress (handmade in SF - yes a locally owned, family business). It is the most comfortable bed I have ever slept on in my entire life. They come with a 10-year warranty and are expected to last 20+ years. They do recommend the box spring, which we bought, so I can't tell you how they are without the box spring. We were initially looking at the McCroskey for our daughter because they are supposedly not full of nasty chemicals. While testing beds for her, I realized I wasn't going to sleep well until I had one for myself. Check them out at or better yet, go try one in person. sleeping soundly
I have read a lot about the advantages to sleeping on a foam mattress. The main reason I finally did buy one was to fit the modern bed frame that I found. The king size mattress came to my house via UPS and was easy to get up the stairs. It came rolled up and expands after opening. I found the innerspace brand mattress at I have been very happy with it. They have memory foam and non memory foam mattresses. The memory foam is more expensive of course. They have a 30 day money back guarantee which is nice, and the mattress ships directly to your house. I would imagine non memory foam would be just fine for the kids. eric

Help us pick a king size mattress!

Aug 2009

Have you bought a king-size mattress in the past 6 months that you love?? We have a medium-firm mattress we bought 7 years ago and never felt comfortable. After sleeping on firm hotel mattresses on vacation, I think that's what we need. But still cushy, maybe with a pillow-top? What brand? What store? Any good deals at Costco that are GOOD mattresses? Consumer Reports is too vague. Help! A-Tossin' And A-Turnin' All Night...

We recently bought a ''Tea Leaf Supreme'' king-sized mattress from Keetsa and we love it. It's foam (supposedly fairly eco-friendly foam, though not the very greenest option out there), so very firm yet soft. I don't toss and turn on it like I did on our previous spring-coil mattress. Plus it comes packed in a relatively small (but heavy) box and you get to watch it expand after you unpack it! Happy Sleeper
We have been shopping for a new mattress since March this year. My husband is the type of person who researches and thinks about bigger purchases much and often and for a long time. Before having made the final decision we have probably been to six different mattress stores to ''test sleep'' (chains and individual stores). In the end we were torn between ''The Natural Mattress store'' in San Rafael and Berkeley's ''European Sleep Works''. Both offer high-end mattresses - this is high-end in quality as well as in price;-).

However, after having come back to the Berkeley store a second and third time, we were totally convinced and made a fabulous decision. The calm and very knowledgeable Sara Ridgway @ European Sleep Works was extremely helpful with finding out what mattress works best for us, our body shapes and weight (did not find a consultation that came close to this anywhere else!). My husband and I both like to sleep medium firm and we always loved sleeping in hotels with high quality mattresses (the ones you never want to get off).

We ended up buying a King Nordic 2 mattress (9'') with two layers of high-grade German coil and natural latex foam, breathable wood-lined cotton cover and a medium firmness that makes me believe I am in heaven! Let me tell you: This mattress has changed our lives and is worth every single penny ... go and check it out yourself. But be prepared that it's not one of the most inexpensive ones. In Heaven

Do You Love your Mattress?

April 2008

My husband and I are in the market for a new mattress. We need something that is comfortable and supportive for our aging bodies--we both wake up too many mornings with joints aching. I'd also prefer something not laden with chemicals, as I tend to be very sensitive to that stuff, plus we'd like something more earth friendly. And to top it all off, we'd really like to keep the cost reasonable so we don't lie in our new bed awake wondering how to pay for it. Anyone out there found the perfect mattress? Thanks! Needs Good Sleep

I love my Tempurpedic mattress. We both love it. Its like the perfect combination between firm and pillowy soft. And no more aching joints! When you first get it, it takes a few days to get used to, but then after that, it is bliss. Every night when I go to bed I say a little prayer of thanks for my amazing mattress. I've had it for a few years no and there is no indentation, no worn in spots. Its just as comfy now as it was 3 years ago. I know people who have had them for longer and they say the same thing. anon
I love opportunities to talk about how getting my bed changed my life. As someone with spinal fusions, I will always have issues. But my bed was making me so stiff in the mornings that I felt much older than I am. We got ours from European Sleepworks in Berkeley. Very natural/organic. That wasn't so important to me, what really helped for us was that they set the two sides of the bed separately. I'm a side sleeper, my husband a back sleeper. We weren't going to find a mattress that we both liked. It wasn't nearly as expensive as some other companies, but worth every penny! happy with my bed
I love my mattress! It's a Simmons Beautyrest - it has a pillowtop, so you don't ever flip it. We've had it for 7 years. This is the first mattress I've ever had that didn't develop sagging or indentations or a ridge down the center, even after 7 years. And we're not exactly tiny little people either - close to 400 pounds on that mattress every night! I didn't think I wanted a pillowtop when we bought it and for the first 3 days it seemed too puffy, but it has turned out to be great, still very comfortable. sound sleeper
Well, I like my mattress - love is pretty strong. It is a Lifekind organic mattress I actually wrote a review of our LifeKind mattress on my blog I wrote it a few months ago, but everything is still the save Lee
Go to European Sleepworks in Berkeley and try out all their beds. Even if you order a model and do not like it after trying it out at home for a month, they will swap for another one. (Our first one was too firm and we settled on the medium firm.) Knowledgeable staff. For some years now we have been very happy. I also like their wool pellet pillows that you can make fatter or thinner at will. Their oxygen pillows were too firm for my neck but they also come in different thicknesses. Judy
Your title caught my eye. I really love my mattress! There is no question in my mind that when it wears out, or if it is lost in some way, I will immediately by the same again. A good friend felt the same; when her 7-year relationship broke up and he got the mattress, she marched out and got her own post haste. It meets your no chemicals requirement, not sure if it meets your affordable requirement, but we've had ours 7 or 8 years and still love it in a very active way. It is a European Sleepworks mattress. It is the most comfortable thing I've ever slept on, and when I'm travelling I miss it. One thing I love about it is that I can comfortably lie on my back on it, despite my generous derriere. Check them out! anne
My husband and I cannot say enough about how much we LOVE our European Sleepworks Mattress. It was expensive, but honestly the best money spent. The differences between it and a ''standard'' mattress are pronounced. We are getting some painting done, and had to sleep on our guest room mattress for one night and could not believe the difference: we woke up sore and not as well rested. I ''heart'' my mattress
I do love my mattress- after years of suffering from an aching back in the morning, now i wake up feeling great. It's from European Sleep works in Berkeley-not the cheapest, but totally worth it.
I use a foam mattress and love it. I bought it at the foam shop on San Pablo below Dwight Way, I think it's called Famous Foam Factory. I had used a Serta or Sealy mattress before going to foam and was never comfortable. The foam mattress really works for me. Rebecca
yes - a 6 inch organic cotton futon with a 4 inch wool topper. Firm base with a soft topper. Call the good folks at Soaring Heart futon and you will learn a lot from helpful, low key, nonpushy folks. Note, you'll need a Rx for a chemical free mattress. sleeping mama
We love our mattress from European Sleepworks on Adeline @ Ashby. It has been worth every penny. We paid $1400 four years ago for the queen mattress only, skipped the slat system frame and got an inexpensive slat frame from a futon shop near Solano and San Pablo. The mattress is still in great shape (it's just dealt with my largish pregnant self and held up well). It's heavy so a pain to move. I'm sensitive to chemicals as well, yet for that it never caused a problem. We have occasionally spent nights at some high-end hotels around the country and our mattress is still better than any we've slept on when traveling. neega
YES - we love our mattress! About 6 or 7 years ago we bought a Sleep Comfort mattress - the one advertised on TV by Lindsay Wagner - the one with ''sleep numbers.'' It is essentially a good air matress with two chambers - one for each side of the bed. Each has its own control. We bought the cheapest version - it doesn't display our ''sleep number'' - we just can feel if it is right. My husband had back surgery as a teen and really needs a comfortable mattress - this is it! In theory it will never wear out because it is air! We did call them to get another piece of foam which runs down the middle of the bed - it made the mattress more stable. You can get one on-line I think or at the store in the Broadway Plaza in Walnut Creek. Getting great sleep
Hi there, I have slept on a water bed for 30 years and is the only kind of mattress that works for my back and experience pain when I sleep on anything else. They do take a little getting used to in the beginning (especially the ''full wave ones), but are sooooo worth it and they are considerably less expensive. They make them so that you hardly feel the movement and even the full wave ones can be made as firm or soft as you like and you don't have to worry about the chemicals and such that traditional mattresses are made of. How much more natural can you get than to sleep on water?! (no you don't get seasick) They support and conform to your body in any position and one of the best parts (for me) is that they are heated! (also adjustable). Imagine crawling into a cozy WARM bed and being rocked to sleep every night knowing that wherever you move it will be warm. My guests love it and I still giggle with delight almost every night even after all these years. (I'm 60) I know most people probably don't think of a water beds anymore, but the're still out there. The only place I know of the the East Bay is Odds & Ends Water Beds 12491 San Pable Ave. Richmond. 510 233 9097. Food for thought. Happy hunting. Beccarae
I too love my mattress from European Sleepworks, however with one caveat. We also bought their slat system, which I HATE. Each of the set of slats is in a frame and down the middle of the bed where our frames meet there is a ridge. Not only that, I can feel zero difference no matter the position of the slats. I definitely fall into the Princess and the Pea category, but my recommendation is to go with your own base for the bed and splurge on the mattress. Princess

Manufacturer won't honor mattress warranty

June 2007

Hi, Wanted to see if anyone knows the legalities pertaining to this. It almost takes more energy to tell than it's worth, but... I bought a mattress 4 years ago that has ''20-year- warranty'' sewn into it with a little chiropractor symbol. The dip became so bad my back is hurting in the morning. I've tested it, slept on my mom's guest bed and had zero pain. When I stuff a huge couch pillow under the mattress, pain goes away. The mattress co's inspector came out, found there was a problem, the co. sent me a form letter saying ''we heard there could be a problem'', then assigned their local sales guy to me.

The problem is the original retail store went out of business 2 years ago. The sales guy said the factory couldn't deliver from factory to my door, that it had to go through the retailer. In my case, another local retailer would supposedly have to, out of the goodness of their heart, agree to let me drop off and pick up my mattress from their store. He said he called around and nobody would do this. Surprise. Followed by, ''if your back is hurting you probably didn't shop carefully and got the wrong mattress'' and ''our backs change as we get older,'' both my fault. I did shop well, he has no idea how old I am, and the dip in the thing is causing the pain. I tried to deal with the factory directly but they pushed me back off on the sales guy, so I've stopped communicating.

I feel that the factory/employer of sales guys, is responsible, the factory warranty should be good even if the retail store is out of business, and that they can easily swing their truck by my house on one of their frequent trips here. Or give me 16/20ths of today's cost of that mattress. Does anybody out there know if my rationale is logical, what laws apply, and what I can specifically say to them that they will listen to? Secondarily, is it right to take the mattress away, rip it apart and replace the insides, sew it back up, and give me the same one back? Is that what they do? Any help is appreciated. Sleepless in Albany

you need to take the company to small claims court.
I don't know if this will help you, but here's what I would do. If you have a documented warranty and they will not honor it, call 7 On Your Side (Channel 7, KGO) I had a problem with an agency once and after going around in circles and getting nowhere I called KGO one 4:00 that afternoon a supervisor from the agency called me, apologized, and said the problem would be taken care of within 2 days and would never occur again. It's amazing how a little fear of bad PR can move mountains. I'm so old I remember good customer service
small claims court? local news consumer affairs? (eg michael finney) i haven't tried these things, but they're worth a shot. anon

Good mattress for a stomach sleeper?

Feb 2007

Hi, I have had the worst luck in trying to find a comfortable bed. I know I need good support and I like a firm bed. I tend to sleep mostly on my stomach and sometimes on my side. Right now I have a very good quality (expensive) king bed that I have had for 2 1/2 years and it is rare that I get a good nights sleep...I toss and turn a lot and wake up with a sore lower back and sore neck and shoulders. I have been reading a lot of the the Tempur-pedic bed and was wondering if anyone has tried that bed? Or, does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Karie

Hi there, I got a tempurpedic bed about 2 years ago. And I love it. I too am a stomach sleeper and had been sleeping on an old mattress. One that was so bad that during my pregnancies I had to switch to a futon. The tempurpedic is great because it sort of molds to your body. So you get support thru your whole body. People who love really soft m attresses might find it a bit firm at first. the other thing is that it takes a few days to get used to when you first get it, so if you decide to try it out, give it a week or so. the other thing is that after two years of two people sleeping on the bed, there are no indentations or any ''valleys''. It just puffs right back out. I highly recommend it. happy tummy sleeper
I sleep on my stomach, too. I bought a Select comfort bed, the sleep number bed! I love it, I love it, I love it. My mother-in-law has the bed you asked about, it's good for a visit; but my sleep number bed is perfect! Both my husband and I sleep wonderfully and still love it after 2 years. Sleeping all night

McCroskey mattress or European sleepworks mattress?

Jan 2007

Seeking opinions on which mattress to purchase--the Mcroskey with the boxspring or the Eurpean Sleepworks with the adjustable slats? Both seem great....but difficult decision. Thanks for any input. Denise

A few years I was also looking for a new mattress and I also called the McRoskey but the prices seemed outrageous. I mean, come on, I was buying a bed, not a car. We bought the ESW and WE LOVE IT. My husband has an arthritic hip and for the first time in 10 years he slept all night. For the money, it is a great buy and you will not regret it. I can't speak to the McRoskey as far as comfort. I am sure it is great. The question is really how much money do you want to spend? sleeping great now
Hi, We purchased a mattress and slat system from European sleepworks this summer and we are very pleased with it. We 'shopped' twice and spent over an hour each time. My husband changed his mind about what firmness he liked in that time, so I think two visits over as many weeks is important for this investment. I have given up on American style spring mattresses. We purchased an expensive one (plush top/ memory foam) and within four years it was a mushy mess with a cave-in center and I was having pressure point issues.So at this point if the sleepworks one lasts 2 x as long it's worth 2x the money. My husband and I had different problems and we're both waking up much happier in the morning. No pressure point issues and no more sore backs (well, I still get a little, but nothing like before in degree or frequency and many days no issues). We took their recommendations and now sleep with a pillow under one arm and bet. the knees (something you can implement w/o the mattress!) and we also got the oxygen pillow. I like the oxygen pillow (it has to be sized to you) except the surface (not the cushiony part) has begun to seem a little hard to me--this is an issue particular to me and my tempurpedic pillow had started to do this to me which is why I switched to the oxygen pillow). So the pillow is fine for my neck, but not so great for my ears/back of the head where I am like the princess and the pea. On the mattress, I still collapse into it and think, 'this is so nice' over 6 months later--and as you can tell, I'm fairly picky. It's a highly personal decision, but I liked the mattress and it was a relief to shop there versus other mattress places. Jessica
We purchased a Mcroskey California King Size mattress and box spings approximately three years ago. They are great and extremely comfortable. I don't think you can go wrong with them. jh
I can't speak to Sleepworks, but I can recommend Mcroskey, highly. We've had one for 12 years, the boxspring/matress combo. Wonderful/Amazing. We have two couples who went out and got them after we did. The key is to test drive in their showroom and get the firmness that is right for you. Plus, SF made...awesome original building on Market...just can't beat it! Dana
My wife and I are about to toss out our 4 year old McCroskey. It's bumpy, lumpy, and sunken in the middle. You might have better luck but it's just about the worst purchase we ever made. Need a New Mattress

Mattress for co-sleeping with toddler & newborn

Dec 2006

We are preparing to upgrade to a king-size bed so that we can co-sleep with our toddler and newborn-on-the-way. Can anyone recommend a mattress to us? We know that our current queen mattress is a bit soft to be ideal for babies, but we purchased it before we were parents, and didn't initially plan to co- sleep. Aside from firmness, are there any other considerations to take into account? What mattresses have people been happy with while co-sleeping? co-sleeper

After much research, we concluded that an organic mattress was most important. We purchashed ours at Earthsake on 4th Street in Berkeley a few months ago. It is the ''Extra firm'' type, and we added a wool cover. I think the softness/firmness factor is perfect for co-sleeping. It greatly eases my mind that not only our baby, but my husband and I as well, are sleeping on a chemical-free bed. Take a look at the toxic ingredients found in non-organic mattresses. It is shocking to me that so many educated people think nothing of inhaling toxins several hours a day, yet are adamant about organic eating and living. Organic mattresses cost approximately the same as the higher quality new chemical mattresses. I think, all said and done, our mattress, boxspring, and organic bedding was in the $2500 range. Best of luck to you! meg
We have been co-sleeping with our son (now 2 years 3 months old) since day 1 on our simmons beauty rest with plush top (the mattress underneath is extrafirm). Although it has a soft plush top, we put a waterproof mattress pad and a tight sheet over it so it wasn't too soft for baby. Our baby was also swaddled in the miracle blanket ( for the first four months and so there was no danger of the baby turning over when he was too young. The individual springs of the simmons beautyrest mattress made sure that when my husband or I moved, the baby did not move with us or there was no 'dip' for the baby to roll into. Works well for us Andi

Where to Buy a Good Mattress?

April 2006

I'm looking for a comfortable, probably firm, queen-size mattress that won't break the bank. Can anyone recommend a mattress store and a mattress brand or model? Also, how do you adequately test it before buying it?

I bought a mattress, etc. four months ago at European Sleepworks in Berkeley. It is wonderful. To anyone able to afford -- or sacrifice to afford -- in the $1,000+ range, I suggest buying the mattress without the slats, etc., which would bring it down somewhat in cost. I bought the whole package and as I waited the month or so for it to arrive, I thought I'd lost my mind, but gosh it is a dream to sleep on. I'd suffered for years on the standard type of mattress. Back to Bed
Jan 2005

Can anyone tell me the difference between a European Sleepworks Bed versus a TempurPedic? Has anyone tried them both? Have you also tried a McRoskey? If so, how do they compare? Are there other beds in this price range we should be considering? We are interested in buying a new bed and wanted some feedback on the beds in this price range. Thanks! Julie

I LOVE my McCrosky mattress. I've had one for nearly 9 years and it is absolutely the best mattress I've ever slept on.
October 2004

I have heard horror stories from friends about the difficulties they have had buying mattresses around here. Can someone recommend a good place that has reasonable prices? Is there an advantage to going to one of those big mattress warehouses? How is IKEA? Thanks! anon.

I have 2 recommendations: we just bought our kids' bunkbeds at Mancini Sleepworld in Pinole (there's also one in Berkeley, near OSH), and the mattresses were on sale, name brand, and seem to be of high quality. The whole purchasing experience was quick and easy (and I did it alone with my 2 and 4 year olds in tow!).

Secondly, we purchased our own king size mattress and box spring just over a year ago at Fenton MacLaren on College Ave. We were just browsing around at the furniture one Sunday afternoon, and wandered downstairs to discover beds & mattresses. The prices were comparable or cheaper than those we'd researched elsewhere, so we bought our set, and are now very happy with the quality of sleep we're getting! (No more futons for us for a long time!) Again, the staff there was very helpful and nice. Good luck! Heidi

This is what I wrote in the recommendations about my mattress- buying experience a couple of years ago:

''This is how I bought our mattress: I started with a $700 budget for a queen-sized mattress, so Duxiana, European Sleepworks and McRoskey were out of the question for us. I read about mattresses at and learned that manufacturers (not the independent high-ends mentioned above) sell the same mattresses, but name them differently at each store so that customers cannot compare prices from store to store. I also learned what to look for in mattress construction. I took my notes and went through the exhausting process of visiting the major mattress stores (Mattress Discounters, Sleeptrain, Mancini's, etc.) and tried out mattresses in our price range. I found most stores were horrendous -- really high- pressured, irritating sales tactics and absolutely unwilling to give a straight answer. Salespeople will bad-mouth the brand their store doesn't carry -- the only stores that didn't use these tactics were Viking Trader on San Pablo (I didn't like any of their mattresses) and Mancini's in Pinole. Also, Mancini's has a chart comparing the mattresses [by the name each store uses for the same mattress]. I ended up spending about $1,000 at Mancini's -- and we're very happy. I couldn't find anything under $900 that I liked. Maybe next time we'll be able to move on up to European Sleepworks! Good luck!''

**The only things I can add to this are that I did look at Ikea and didn't like any of their mattresses. Also, we've had our mattress for about 3 years now and are still very happy with it. What a difference a new mattress made in our lives! (When you're rolling toward the valley in the center of your mattress, you know it's TIME.) Anon

I had a good experience with Mattress Discounters in Emeryville. They have a large selection and are pretty helpful. sleeping well
I bought my mattress, which I love, at the mattress store in Emeryville, near the Home Depot. But I don't think where matters as much as this: mattresses are marked up so much that retailers are willing to bargain. No joke. I made them an offer and they accepted. It was like being at a garage sale! (I'd read about this somewhere and thought, what the hell.) Also, comparing brands from store to store is often not possible; retailers change the names of the mattress just enough to make comparison shopping difficult. Good luck! Anon.
We bought ours at Macy's. After it arrived and we were able to sleep on it for a month, we decided to return it and get a firmer mattress. That's the good thing about Macy's. We are very pleased with the mattress we ultimately ended up with. Yvonne
My husband and I bought a mattress at European Sleep Works (Adeline near Ashby in Berkeley) and have been very happy with it (as well as with the store and salespeople). The mattress is now 7 years old and I expect to go back there when we replace it. They are definitely high end mattresses, priced comparably to high-end mattresses from national brands (Sealy, Serta, etc.), but I really think you get a better quality product. If you aren't looking at the high end of the market, however, it's probably not the right place for you. Carrie

Comfortable mattress

Feb 2005

Hooray!! We're finally getting ready to move (larger room/home) and need a recommendation on a good mattress. I don't know if it makes a difference that we want a California King. My husband and I have both had back/neck problems that we can attribute to our past & current mattresses. What I think we need is something firm, but not stiff, and feels soft. I know there is such a thing because we slept on it during our vacation at the Moana Surfrider in Waikiki (anyone know where to get one of those? Seems it's made for their parent company, but I'd like to test it out again at a store and not just purchase it online.) I guess I'm wondering if there's a consensus about what brand makes the best mattresses, as well as where to shop. Thanks for any input. paula

We bought a European Sleepworks mattress 8 years ago and have been in heaven ever since. Since then, my parents, in-laws, 2 friends and brother have all purchased these mattresses. several of us have chronic back issues and we would all spend the money over and over again. They cost $2000-$2500, depending on what you buy. We compared these to other similar "boutique" mattresses in the Bay Area and we were appalled by what they want to charge for virtually the same product. You can rotate the pillow top, but you never have to flip the mattress. Also, the top of the cover zips off so you can wash it!! We have had to do that once or twice with a toddler who crawls into our bed in the middle of the ONE night we forgot to put the waterproof pad on :-) Happy sleeping!
Jan 2004

I know there are posts on buying Mattresses on the network, but they are pretty outdated and dont have sufficient info on mattress other than european sleepworks. I am trying to find a mattress that can give good support and be comfortable. I have a 3 yr old that sleeps with us and I am currently expecting. Any advice is appreciated if someone can reccomend the mattress they are happy with!!

We really like our organic mattress that we got at Earthsake on Fourth Street. We've had ours about 2 years, and our son's is over four years old. I think we got ''medium'' firmness (not sure), and both are still very comfortable. We do not have bos- springs. My son's is on a platform, and ours rests on wooden slats. The store has an annual mattress sale, I think in the summer. R.K.
McRoskey Mattress Company in San Francisco is the best place to go for comfortable mattresses. sue

King mattress without bump in the middle?

Dec 2004

We love having the space to stretch out in our king-sized bed--- but after only 1.5-2 yrs a bump in the middle has developed. It's in the section between where my the bulk of my husband's body and my body bulk lay. Now it's been a total of 3 years and I don't think this mattress is holding up. We paid about $1100 for it. We do not have a boxspring as our bed is the platform type that doesn't need one. The bed has a single head to toe support bar running down the middle. Does anyone know if it's the mattress quality or the lack of boxspring that causes this lump in the middle? Or a combination of both? I really don't want to go back to a queen. Should we get a new bed with a boxspring? I was thinking that a king bed with 2 support bars (cutting the length into thirds) may help because then the bars would be under the areas where our bodies are most of the time. Anyone know of such a bed design? They all seem to have just one bar. Another thing: it's the new kind of mattress that doesn't require flipping. However, one day we stood up the mattress to do some work in the room and the next week or so it didn't seem to have the bump, and this tells me that flipping it around would probably do some good, although the bottom-side is not designed to be slept on. Any ideas? Do we need to get a custom-designed bed? Love to Stretch Out

I think that my husband and I have the same crummy mattress as you! I hate that lump in the bed and my husband is also experiencing really bad back pain every night! UGH. We DO have a box spring and I don't think it does on iota of good. I really just think that the problem is that mattresses that ''conform'' to your body don't have the ability to ''spring back'' to life. Thus, the ''hill'' in the middle. I haven't written to the company that makes the mattress, but I'm definitely thinking about it. Other than that, we're planning on buying a new mattress and I'm going for the old fashioned kind of mattress. Good luck to you! need a good night's sleep
No flip is a myth. If you don't flip your mattress, it will get lumpy. If you have a pillowtop, the mattress co. will tell you that it's just what happens with pillowtops. Yeah, it's amazing that products this expensive are made this poorly.... At this point, were I you, I'd start rotating and flipping the mattress and see if it'll even out over the next 3 or 4 months. Sara

Foam Mattresses


We recently bought a foam mattress from Ikea for a toddler bed that expands to twin size as your baby grows. I let it air out outside for a day and it has a cover and of course the sheets. The last couple of weeks the comments regarding the foam and possibly inhaling chemicals is beginning to scare me. Can anyone recommend a solution, maybe another mattress pad or a feather bed over the foam? Or should we get rid of it? Thanks for any advice on this one... Alexis

I think that plastic (polythene, not PVC) zippered mattress covers can protect against the outgassing of both foam and conventional baby mattresses, the latter being treated with flame retardant chemicals on which some fungi feed. The Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients (Aug/Sept 2000) article entitled "Victory over crib Death" by Dr. Lendon Smith made a compelling case for using Babesafe mattress covers (email to obtain more info) and no moisture resistant bedding otherwise Nori

Toddler Bed Mattresses

Related page: Toddler Beds

Feb 2005

i'm planning on buying a twin bed for my son soon, even though he won't be moving into it for a year or so, i am planning on using it as a guest bed until then. but i have NO idea what kind of mattress to get for a little guy. firm? soft? box spring? no box spring? i'm guessing pillow top is considered a bad thing, but does anyone have any advice on the topic? thanks. mary in alameda

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October 2001

We recently bought a foam mattress from Ikea for a toddler bed that expands to twin size as your baby grows. I let it air out outside for a day and it has a cover and of course the sheets. The last couple of weeks the comments regarding the foam and possibly inhaling chemicals is beginning to scare me. Can anyone recommend a solution, maybe another mattress pad or a feather bed over the foam? Or should we get rid of it? Thanks for any advice on this one... Alexis

I think that plastic (polythene, not PVC) zippered mattress covers can protect against the outgassing of both foam and conventional baby mattresses, the latter being treated with flame retardant chemicals on which some fungi feed. The Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients (Aug/Sept 2000) article entitled "Victory over crib Death" by Dr. Lendon Smith made a compelling case for using Babesafe mattress covers (email criblife AT to obtain more info) and no moisture resistant bedding otherwise Nori

Do toddlers have special needs in a mattress?

Our son is ready to escape the confines of his crib, so my husband and I have been searching for a toddler bed. (We like the idea that toddler beds are the right scale for our son's size.) Ikea sells a few styles that can be extended as the child grows, ultimately to the length of a standard twin. There is an obvious convenience factor here, but the system requires a simple, though thick, foam mattress. When our son is older, we can sub in a standard mattress for better support, but our crib mattress will not fit in the meantime.

Our son is old enough that SIDS is no longer a concern, but, considering his small size, does he need the support of a firm mattress? (The money savings is not worth future orthopedic care.) Someone out there must have purchased one of these beds -- did your child find it comfortable? Thanks in advance. Loralee

We are now entering this situation with our 22 month old boy. We hope to use his crib mattress on a IKEA type toddler bed, or at the very least put his mattress on the floor. I wanted to mention what I've read about using foam mattress(or any foam product for that matter): foam off-gasses formaldahyde. I read this when I was pregnant, and we specifically chose a baby crib mattress that had little to no foam in it. Can anyone else comment on the safety of foam - especially in mattresses. I do know that mattress(any type) should be "aired" out before use b/c of the off-gassing it produces. MM

Inflatable Mattresses


Every summer as we visit my mother and stay in her home, our three kids and their cousin struggle with more or less comfortable sleeping arrangements. In previous years one kid had to sleep on a futon mattress right on the (carpeted) floor. In order to improve matters a bit, my mother has been considering other options, such as those thick inflatable mattresses that you see in some catalogs. I would very much appreciate some feedback from others who have given the inflatable mattresses a try either as hosts (ie: are they easy to inflate/deflate/store) or as houseguests (were they comfortable enough for one night? for several nights in a row?) . Thanks! Laura

I find the inflatable mattresses much more comfortable than a futon. They're not hard to put up and take down, though it helps to have an electric pump (many brands sell pumps that are made to work specifically with the mattress). They are not large--maybe half the size of a standard pillow when fully deflated. The big downside is that they can get holes in them. Our 12 year old daughter jumped on our last one and burst a side seam (completely unable to be repaired). So it sort of depends on the activity level of the kids, and location in which the mattress will be used. Good luck! Dawn
we slept on one recently when visiting my father. it was very easy to inflate and deflate with the electric pump (came with it). all three of us (2 adults and one 22 month old) slept on it comforatably. at first it wasn't comfortable, but then we added more air and it was fine. i forgot the brand. it runs around $150.00 i think and is carried at bed, bath & beyond and sold in the hearth and home catalog. Susan
We got a queen size one from REI ($25 or so) almost two years ago for guests and it has been great. I don't think you need to get the really expensive ones. Do invest in an electric pump, though -- much easier than the foot pump. Curryville
I slept on one for a week while staying at my mother in law's house. I didn't tell her this, but I didn't find it very comfortable at all. I would say it's OK for one night but that would be about it. If you move or roll the thing sort of slips on the floor. It also "squeaks" when you get up (my baby quickly figured out I was on the floor next to his crib which greatly lessened his interest in staying asleep.) They are definitely easy to inflate and deflate, however, and do not take up much storage space. And, I should add, I have a reputation for being somewhat of a princess. Fran
We'd like to put an extra bed in our son's room for house guests, but don't have much extra space to play around with. I've looked at futons, but the frames are all so big that I'm beginning to think we should try to find a comfortable fold-away cot or even an air mattress that can be stored out of place when not in use. How have others solved this problem? Is there such a thing as a comfortable cot or air mattress? If so, where would I go to find one? Any other ideas? Thanks. Holly
air matteress--I highly recommend the AERO BED air mattresses! I think you can get them at Sears but I imagine they are at lots of other places too. Ferdief

King-sized Mattress for Family Bed

Sept. 2000

I know this is a little off-topic but it does relate to parenting, so I'm going to give it a try. We just had a little girl three months ago and she sleeps in our queen-sized bed with us. Unfortunately it's a little crowded in there what with all the rustling around we do when nursing, the care we have to take with the sheets & blankets, etc. We're looking to buy a king-sized bed so that we all can stretch out a little bit but are a bit daunted by the huge and confusing selection of brands and types. Can anyone offer any advice as to a good, reasonably priced king-sized bed? And where to get it?

We're on a modest budget but are interested in good quality. We can probably afford something around $1000-1200. If anyone knows of any such mattress, please let me know! Thanks much! Valerie

King-size bed. We also outgrew our family bed, and finally went to king-size last January. We ended up buying our bed at Mancini's Sleepworld in Pinole, and I highly recommend them. They deliver free, give you a frame, take away the old mattress, if needed (we just asked them to put it in another room), and offer a "comfort guarantee", which means if you don't like the mattress you bought, they will exchange it at no charge within a certain period of time. We bought a Serta mattress called the Worthington Plush, and we love it. We got it on sale, so I think it was about $900. If I had known what a difference a bigger bed would make, I would not have waited so long! Good luck. Burleola
I'd look at "Mattress Discounters" out on Hesperian Blvd in San Leandro (not far up the street from Target). We have bought 5 sets from them. It is NOT a deluxe shopping environment, but who cares? Many of the sets are mismatched or have tiny flaws in them. Here's what we do We go in and lay down on a variety of different mattresses. How else can one decide which one is best? There is nothing wrong with any of the products beyond those I've mentioned. The prices are less because the store does very little advertising and is not a major retailer. I've sent several friends there and all have reported satisfaction. I doubt that you would need to spend $1000 for a bed. Good Luck. Sharon

Odd-sized mattress

July 2004

Hi. My parents recently gave us a bed for our son. It is great and has extra storage but it is odd shaped. The dimensions are 32 x 74. We are trying not to spend a lot of money on a new mattress. I was debating a foam mattress since it more likely that can be made to a custom size for less money. Does anyone know of a good place to buy custom mattresses and/or a foam shop? Thank you! lisa

All our mattresses are foam with egg crate toppers, and we're very happy with the combo. We all have bad backs too, so comfort really matters to us. There's a great foam store on San Pablo, and I'm sure they can custom cut something for you. Famous Foam Factory, 1411 San Pablo Avenue Berkeley , CA 94702 (510) 526-2645
Hi, In response to your request for a recommendation on a where to find a odd sized mattress;

I recently purchased a custom mattress online for about half the cost I was able to find here in the east bay (half the cost, including being shipped from phoenix, az).

At first, I was bit reserved about purchasing a mattress online, but I had such a difficult time locating a custom mattress manufacturer here that didn't want to charge an arm and a leg that I decided to check online.

The mattress maker I found had so many supurlative reviews from previous customers, that after talking with them over the phone about my specifications, I had such a good instinct about purchasing from them that I decided to place an order.

All in all, I ended up extremely happy with he quality of the mattress, and the service, and the cost. I would definitely purchase another mattress from them, and feel good about recommending them to anyone. The mattress I decided to purchase was a latex mattress (recommended by my chiropractor), and the company I bought it from is called Mattresses.Net and they're found online at www.Mattresses.Net

--happy to be of any assistance! -m

Tempur Pedic Mattresses

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Sept 2005

I am in the market for a new mattress and box spring. I have lower back problems (chronic). My husband has some arthritis in one shoulder that makes side sleeping uncomfortable, yet he is naturally a side sleeper. Lately, we are both stiff and sore when we get out of bed due to what I think may be an overly firm mattress.

We are interested in Tempur Pedic beds. If you have one, did you have specific sleep problems? Did the Tempur Pedic solve the problems? Are any of the copycat memory foam mattresses viable alternatives? Lastly, where did you buy yours and do you recommend that place?

I did look at the archives but many of the suggestions focus on $200 mattress toppers. I really want a whole new bed. Thanks stiff and sore

Try European Sleepworks. They're in Berkeley and make the best matresses I have ever experienced. They're custom made using non-toxic materials. You can customize the matress to you - the people in the store are beyond helpful and you can just go in and flop around on different options. They are Pricey ($2000-$3000) - but in my opinion well worth it. Really, just an experience unlike any other bed. The price is also a little better when you consider that they last for an incredibly long time - much longer than a standard matress (we've been told we can plan on using them for 20+ years.) We bought these matresses for all the beds in our house, including the guest room and for our teenage daughters just because we think they are so fantastic that it was worth the investemnt. Go into the store - 2966 Adeline in Berkeley, they are extremely helpful and informative there, or check out the website at: Happy Sleeper
I have chronic back and shoulder problems, and invested in a new Temper-Pedic mattress about 6 years ago. It was definitely worth the money. My back and shoulder pain improved dramatically, and I still wake up without pain after sleeping (which had been a problem for years) six years later. Although initially expensive, they last a long time, and are a wonderful product. Anon
We've had a Tempur Pedic Mattress for about 6 years now, and really love it. We bought the whole system with a boxspring, but if you have a platform bed frame, that's not necessary. We purchased directly from Tempur Pedic, either online or via phone, I can't recall. I was pregnant at the time, and would have been miserable without my beloved bed. Our primary reason for the purchase, besides the divine comfort, was because my husband is a tossing, turning, thrashing, sleeper, and I am not. He would continuously wake me up with all his movement. I barely can tell when he moves, except when he robs me of covers. We really notice the difference when we travel. We did purchase pillows and slept with them for a while before getting the bed. Good luck with your decision. sleeping like a baby
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