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Sept. 2002
People really love their Neptunes, but at the Sears Scratch and
Dent we can get a Sears Calypso washer and dryer for the price
of just the Neptune washer. Does anyone have any opinions or
advice about the Calypso. It is an Energy Star rated top loader
with a large capacity, well rated by Consumer Reports, but it
has that odd little agitator or washer plate. Is it effective
and easy on your clothes? Can you wash a down comforter without
destroying it, does it do well with heavily soiled clothes? Any
info appreciated.
Eleanor
We bought a Sears Calypso top-loading washer last spring and we
are mostly satisfied with it. (We love the energy rebates and
lower cost water, PGE,and detergent bills).
We have washed king-sized comforters and sleeping bags with good
results,although we've had to do an extra rinse cycle to get soap
residue out, even after using the recommended amount of HE (High
Efficiency) detergent. I notice that even when washing on the
Delicate cycle, clothes come out of the washer highly wrinkled.
Once out of the dryer, clothes seem O.K. I'm curious if anyone
else experiences this. One other glitch for us is that we need to
use unscented products, and the only unscented HE detergent on the
market is the Sears brand, which is sort of a pain to procure. It
is possible to use regular unscented products, but you need to use
about a third of the normal scoop, and you're never really sure if
there is too much sudsing for this washer.
In terms of buying from the Sears Outlet, I'd recommend getting
the 5 year extended warranty. When my new washer was delivered
from Sears, it had what looked like only a cosmetic dent on the
side, and although I was willing to take the offered 10% off the
price, our appliance person recommended against it, saying the
washer could have fallen off the truck or been hit with a
forklift and that the balance of the drum could be off. So I sent
it back to Sears for a replacement, and maybe our original washer
will end up in your house! It could be perfectly fine, but I'd
advise buying the warranty.
Anne
We bought the calypso washer at the Sears outlet a few months ago
and have been very happy with it. It does a good job
cleaning the clothes (but I haven't tried to wash a big
comforter yet) and is quiet and very easy to use. I like the
the fact that it has a different washing system that doesn't
require the big spiral in the middle. There's nothing for the
clothes to get trapped on and the loads don't get unbalanced.
Karen
Front-Loading Washers
2001
I'd be much obliged if anyone who has purchased a frontloading
digitalized Maytag Neptune 2000 rated #1 in consumers reports this year
could share your experience(s) with it. It's very expensive and I hope
to hear your feedback before getting it. Also what is your experience
with toploading vs frontloading? Any experience with longevity and low
maintenance of some washer brands?
Susan
I'm not familiar with the Maytag washer, but I have a Kenmore front loader.
My husband and I absolutely love it! It is more water and energy efficient
than the front loaders and it is stackable. Our model has two settings for
the spin cycle-fast or slow. The fast cycle wrings out so much water that
the drying time is cut in half. But, some of the seams on some clothing
items have unraveled. So, I don't use the fast spin setting for everything.
We chose the Kenmore because my parents, aunts, and inlaws have always sworn
by Kenmore. Plus, my husband's cousin is an appliance repairman who works for
Sears. He services all brands and makes of appliances and says Kemore washers
and dryers have better track records.
On our machine, though, there are some limitations. For instance, the washer
has a very loud end-of-cycle signal that cannot be turned off (a problem which
has been corrected in the newer models). The other thing, the water level is
not adjustable. Now, according to the literature, the amount of water used
is about 50% less than in toploaders. The only other complaint I have is
poor bleach dispensing. I've noticed that if you fill the bleach dispenser
with more than the recommended amount, it is dispensed directly into the
drum without being diluted first. For me this is a problem because I use an
awful lot of bleach when I wash. On the other hand, there is a setting for
an automatic second rinse cycle. This is handy if you need to do second
rinse cycles for baby clothes or for anyone else who is soap residue
sensitive. Overall, though, I must say we are very happy with our washer and
dryer set.
Well, not quite the information you wanted, but I hope it helps.
Jeanette
We have had the previous version of the Maytag Neptune (not digital) for
two years and have really liked it a lot. We got ours at the Sears
outlet (tiny dent) which saved enough to buy a matching dryer too all
for the price of just the new Neptune washer. I really like the front
loading machine ... uses a lot less water, less soap, and really does a
great job at cleaning. It's great to be able to simply stuff in a huge
comforter or even very delicate items and in both cases it works great.
We've had zero problems with it, but probably only being two years old
is not really yet a test of any future maintenance. So far I think it's
been well worth the extra cost. -Mike
I have had a Creda for three years. I find that it washes very well, spins
the clothes to nearly dry, and is supposed to be very water and energy
efficient. However, it is high maintenance. I have had the motor brushes
replaced twice already, the pump replaced, and the door handle parts
replaced. Luckily I purchased it with my VISA card, so my warranty time was
extended to three years. I would not recommend the Creda. The appliance
repair person (who I now know too well) recommends the Maytag.
Ruth
We do not have the +latest+ Maytag front-loading model, but one bought 3 years
ago. But I must say that I actually ENJOY doing the laundry now with our
Maytage
Neptune. The front loader is like the European washers, which use a lot less
water and soap to do a really fine job on your clothes without mangling
them in
the process. I can wash hand-washables and many "dry clean only" items without
fear of wrecking them. Even "unwashable" stuffed toys, like my son's 4 year
old
teddy bear, have benefited. My tenants, based upon my recommendation and their
own research, waited almost 6 months to get the stackable models, they were so
sold on this type washer. Finally, although you did not ask about the
dryer, it
too is a marvel. I never use softener and nothing ever gets overdried and
wrinkled, unless I forget and let the clothes stay several hours after the
drying is done. The best prices, we found a few years ago, are at Circuit City.
Nori
We recently purchased a Sears front loader and love it. Our water bill is a
fraction of what it used to be with the old top loader. EBMUD and PGE offer
rebates (or did six months ago) for frontloaders. Darcy
I haven't used a Maytag frontloader, but I did buy a frontloader a few years
ago. I was persuaded to by the fact that they used less water (up to two
thirds
ess) and can be more reliable, because the motor spins the tub directly, not
through a 90 degree turn. They are generally also more efficient with
electricity
for the amount of washing you do. Also, my Mother claimed it made clothes
cleaner
because the water was forced through the clothes (by gravity). I looked around
for a while, then picked up what I thought was a bargain machine in a closing
down sale. What I discovered is that not all frontloaders are equal. This one
was not particularly energy efficient, and in particular it had problems with
sucking baby socks into the filter arrangement if I didn't go through every
piece of washing and put small things into washing sacks- a single coin left
in a pocket could completely incapacitate the machine and require an hour
lying on the floor trying to clean out the filter without flooding the entire
laundry. I got quite experienced at this. The particular machine (my nemesis)
is no longer made, for good reason, and most repair people hated it. It ended
up costing me more than a much more expensive machine, plus the hassle. I
began
to have fantasies about finding cliffs to tip it off the edge of, or bombs to
explode it with. Not all frontloaders are like this, of course. The main thing
that's annoying about them is that the washing programs take so long. Also,
it turns out that frontloaders, on average wash LESS well than toploaders,
which surprised me. I would check on whether all underwear has to be separated
and washed in sacks or not. On the plus side, it fitted into our rather small
laundry, didn't use much water and I thought it washed okay. There are much
better machines out there - Europeans use pretty much nothing else.
I've heard good things about the Miele.
Fiona
The most striking features that we experience are the massive capacity and
the extraordinarily miserly soap consumption. Oh, and the dryer's
auto-shutoff feature.
With our landlord's old, smaller top loader, laundry was a weekly task that
seemed to take all day with lots of interruptions to check for imbalances,
and drying was "keep checking 'til it's dry" or "set it for 15 or 20
minutes longer than you expect, so that you'll be sure it'll be done when
you come back."
Now we just cram scads of clothes in the washer, add a quarter cup
of liquid detergent, run the wash, transfer to the dryer, and wait for the
buzzer. Mounds of clean clothes come out, we used less water, less soap,
less energy, and spent less time. The laundry chore that used to be a
high-maintenance production now consists primarily of the folding & putting
away. (I don't think they'll ever automate that.) We're happy campers.
Greg
I purchased the non-digital Maytag Neptune front-loading washer last
October. I think it is a terrific machine. If the claims about water and
electricity usage are true, it is much more efficient than any other washer
of its size. I have found it to do an excellent job of cleaning clothes and
to be much gentler on delicates (I have even washed some "hand wash" cotton
sweaters on its delicate cycle with excellent results). You can also get
quilts and large blankets into the machine without worrying about
unbalancing the machine or getting them wrapped around the agitator (since
there is none). Since I've had it only a few months, I don't know anything
about the longevity, but Maytag machines in general have excellent
maintenance records. It is very expensive, but I think you need to take the
lower energy usage into account in determining the real cost to you
(especially in this energy environment!).
As another note, you don't say where you are considering buying it from, but
I bought mine from Sears, who gave me an extremely short delivery window,
showed up right at the beginning of it, installed the washer and dryer in 15
minutes and were done. I couldn't have been more pleased.
Stephanie
We purchased a frontloading
Maytag Neptune 2 years ago and absolutely love it. If you can afford it, I
think it is worth it. It does a great job, saves water, washes big
loads...With kids, you do not want to mess around with a broken machine or
one that is not going to hold up. We just had a repair done and it was
covered under warranty and hassle free. Scott
We purchased a new Maytag Neptune washer in November 1999.
Overall, I have been really happy with how it washes the clothes and,
especially, how little water it uses. I have to say, however, that we have
had a few
problems (covered by warranty) with a few of the electric components. That
said,
Maytag service is excellent and they sent out a repair person immediately.
We had
to have two components replaced within the first 9 months, but haven't had
a problem
since.I would still buy the same washer, you just need to be aware that
sometimes
with all the digital parts, some piece will malfunction. The washer came
with a
one-year warranty and the service was excellent. After we had the problems, I
decided to go ahead and spend the extra $$ for the 3-year extended warranty.
Hope this helps. It is still the best washing machine I've ever used, far
better than any of the top-loading washers I've used before. One other
piece of
information my mother-in-law has the Frigidaire front loading washer and
loves it too.
I've used her machine when we've visited them in Texas and it is also
excellent (and a
lot less $$). I went with the Maytag because it has a much bigger capacity.
--Susan
We recently bought a Frigidaire front loader from Galvin's, expensive but
not as expensive
as the Maytag. The big surprise for us came with the first load. The
machine was almost
eerily quiet, but when it came to the spin cycle, the whole house shook so
violently I grabbed my daughter and crawled under a desk, thinking it was
an earthquake. The
Galvinians came out to check the machine, said it was fine and properly
installed,
but that we might have to shore up our flooring underneath the machine, or
better
yet, move the machine to a cement slab.
Since we don't want to do our laundry upstairs in the garage, I guess we're
going
to have to beef up the sub-flooring in our laundry room. We never had this
problem
with our ancient top-loader, so I guess frontloaders are just heavier. Our
faithful appliance repair guy (who keeps all our ancient appliances
machines alive with
frequent expensive repairs) was appalled and told us we were crazy to keep
the machine, said it was just a yuppie scam and we should get our money
back, why risk our house falling down the hillside for a frontloader?
But we still have the machine, and haven't done anything about the flooring
(anyone
have a handyman to recommend?), and our appliance repairman has lost all
respect for us. Anyway, if you aren't planning to put the machine on a
cement slab, you might just ask if the Maytag is as prone to rattling the
windows as our Frigidaire is. Because of this, it's been a hassle--and will
add significantly to the cost of the machine when we do the flooring.
I bought a Kenmore front-loader this year and really like it a lot. It
is full-sized but it can be stacked beneath a dryer, which I needed. The
great thing about it is you can wash pillows and comforters without
having to wind everything around that central agitator. It doesn't
mash and grind all the clothes so they suffer much less than before. Plus of course
it uses much less water. It is so efficient at spinning out water that if I
use the "fast spin" the clothes are smashed flatter than pancakes and don't unwrinkle
well in the dryer. So be sure to set it on regular spin, not fast.
The one thing I don't like about it is the
obnoxious 5-second-long buzzer that sounds at the end of the cycle.
Ginger
Lori
I bought the Maytag Neptune non-electronic front loading washer and matching
dryer a couple of months ago and I just LOVE THEM! This is sick to say, but
washing clothes is actually pleasurable! The washer is soooo quiet, it
practically purrs when it is washing. Less water and less detergent,
machine is much gentler on clothes on account of not having an agitator
agitating the clothes. It holds more clothes, especially larger items (I
routinely wash queen sized down comforters, lambskin rugs, blankets). There
is no need to make sure that the loads are evenly balanced (hence, no
"walking" washers). For towels and other thirsty fabrics, there's a Max
(water) extract. I feel the extra expense is worth it. The amount of
laundry of my family of five produces will increase as the kids get larger
and I feel this is an investment in staying ahead of the laundry pile. I
also have the matching Neptune dryer. It's a bit noisy, but more like a
white noise. I like the electronic moisture sensor, so the dryer will shut
off when the clothes are dry. There's a 5 minute cooling before the dryer
completely shuts off, which prevents wrinkles. It is a definite improvement
from my old 21 year old dryer which needed 3 hours to dry a load!
I bought my Maytag set from Home Depot since they still carried the now
discontinued non-electronic models. The prices were on sale, even. And
free delivery, set up, and take away of old units. Good deal! Plus, there
still may be energy saving rebate offers. Aside from the lower cost of the
older models, I prefer turning knobs and pressing buttons and having all of
my options spelled out in front of me vs. scrolling around looking for some
command. Guess I'm essentially a low tech type. LD
I also love my front-loading Maytag Neptune (2+ years old). I bought it
(and the matching dryer) at the Sears outlet in San Leandro and saved
enough to buy a refrigerator. Plus I got rebates from both PG&E (unlikely
now!) and EBMUD because the machines save energy and water. I found I can
use any detergent in it (despite manufacturer's information) and only need
half or less of the normal amount of detergent. The only drawbacks to the
washer are (1) you can't open the washer after it has started to add that
sock that fell in the hall on your way to the machine -- it locks once the
wash cycle starts, and (2) the rubber gasket around the inside portion of
the door traps water -- I generally soak it up with a rag or towel. This
design feature isn't present on all front-loaders though, and may not be a
problem on more recent Maytags.
Karen
I don't have the Maytag front loader, but rather the Kenmore someone else
mentioned (also the dryer) and am very happy with them. I'm glad to know
that the latest model includes the option to turn off the strident
end-of-wash buzzer, because it's the worst feature of mine. If space is at
a premium, front loaders offer the advantage of being stackable. My house
has only a very narrow space into which a washer/dryer fit, and if I wanted
both a washer and dryer they had to be stackable. I didn't like any of the
"apartment sized" stackables I saw. The Kenmore (which is, I believe,
identical to models sold under the Frigidaire brand, too) stacks and offers
the capacity of a regular full-sized washer. It's my first in-home washer,
so I have no previous water or utility bills to compare, but the increase in
monthly bills was minimal.
I live in an old house, and the washer spin cycle does rattle the place.
It's not a yuppie scam. My guess is that the spin action in a front-loader
works differently than in a top-loader
Lorraine
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