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Linda Mood Bell for 4th grade Math?
Hi - My 4th grade daughter is struggling in math. Would appreciate feedback about
Linda Mood Bell for math assessment and support. Thank you
My daughter attended Lindamood-Bell, and it dramatically improved her reading fluency.
It was very expensive, but money well spent. Their testing revealed that symbolic
imagery was a weakness, which was also evident in my daughter's poor command of math
facts. I was strongly considering Lindamood-
Bell's math program, but then her teacher introduced me to the ''9 Lines Strategy'' in
Making Math Real. It made as much sense, if not more, than the Lindamood-Bell's air
writing technique. So I decided to add math sheets to our daily routine and save myself
$1K/week at Lindamood Bell. Within 6 weeks my daughter mastered her multiplication math
In the process of looking for a math tutor, I learned that Making Math Real is used by
most of the education specialists in the Bay Area. When I heard that the big guns in
Making Math Real, Evan Delegeane and Michael Curry, were teaching a summer math camp I
decided to enroll my daughter. She loved it, and when school began I enrolled her in
their After School Math Club on Wednesdays (3:30-5 on Grand Ave. in Piedmont). The cost
of the course, which runs 17 weeks, is $100 more than 1 week of Lindamood-Bell
instruction. Evan and Michael really impress me, they're former teachers with many
years of classroom experience, they are Making Math Real course instructors, and from
what I've seen they make math fun as well as real. To inquire about the club contact
Lindamood Bell for son with visual processing disorder?
My son has been diagnosed with a visual processing disorder, and I'm looking to
Lindamood Bell. Most BPN reviews are quite old. I've heard it works and is very
expensive. Any other input in terms of both short and long term impact on your child's
I thought I'd respond in case this is helpful to you. Oakland Unified School
District has a reading clinic for elementary school kids that uses Lindamood
Bell methods to help the kids. Kids who qualify to go there go everyday for a
year. My child went in third grade. In case you're an Oakland public school
parent, I wanted you to know about this option. Your child would have to
qualify through the IEP process. Hope this is helpful.
My daughter who has a processing problem went to LMB for the reading program
and a small portion of the math program. It wasn't great for her. And it is
so expensive that that was always an issue. They use a visualization process.
My daughter has a more auditory processing problem and it didn't really
''stick''. Also, they had us do a planned program which we did, then said we
hadn't really completed what they recommended, and needed more. So, the math
part, which we really needed, didn't happen well. What I will say, is that
they tried (sort of on and off) to find a partner and that made the program
much more reasonable. We have found that a good tutor is MUCH cheaper and
First of all, good job helping your kid! It's tough work when learning to
read isn't smooth- so you've made the first big leap into figuring it out, and
let me tell you, Lindamood Bell is fabulous. My daughter was at the end of
first grade when we enrolled. We saw improvements immediately in her mood.
It was if a weight had been lifted off her chest. She also was better behaved
in school (funny- she acted out every time reading and writing came up in
class.) The program was intense, but I told her that she was strong enough
for it, and I wasn't above bribery- a little piece of chocolate, Japanese
erasers, her favorite movie at the end of the week, whatever it took to get
through it, and only if I heard from her teachers that she focused the entire
four hours each day. What was hardest for her was leaving her classmates at
school, so I think if I had to do it over, I would enroll her in the morning
program (although she's not really a morning person, so maybe not.) But once
we made the commitment, there was no turning back, no breaks, just total
support for her until finishing. She jumped from a pre-pre-
school level of reading to 4th grade level in 6.5 weeks- she just needed to
get her reading ability up to her interest level and fast, because otherwise
she was bored with the books. She learned 850 sight words. AMAZING.
From my understanding, one indication that the program will work well for your
child is their score for vocabulary, and how large the difference is between
reading ability and understanding. But talk to the director about that. I
also know that they are not going to recommend their program to anyone they
don't think will benefit. Sometimes it was hard; I remember a few days of
crying. But to us, a few days of crying about why does she have to do this
extra work while her classmates do not outweighed the crying I see from
students in fourth grade who still have trouble reading. Don't Wait!
My child also has a visual processing learning difference. We didn't try
Lindamood Bell, but we did do binocular vision training at UC eye center (very
helpful with reading), and saw a couple of OTs -- Gail Gordon in Orinda and
Isono in Berkeley. We also tried to do ''natural'' activities like music
and art classes to help stimulate those areas. One of the PTs had us do
specific games on a WII. The good news is that now (8 years after the
of the journey) there has been a great improvement in performance on untimed
tests, and a significant improvement in performance on timed tests. School is
going well, though it takes more work than for most students.
Teach Lindamood-Bell myself to my child?
My 7-year-old daughter has a learning disability and her
teacher and occupational therapist have recommended some
programs at Lindamood-Bell. She was assessed there and
would need 160-200 hours of private instruction to learn
to read. I am totally sold on the value of the program
but it's expensive and intense. I'm wondering how I could
set up a program at home that would be successful over the
summer. I can't match 3-4 hours a day without both of us
going crazy! I have thought about doing an hour twice a
day, perhaps at the public library. I would love to hear
from any parents who have taken the training (HQ in San
Luis Obispo) and taught their own children. My daughter
needs Seeing Stars and Visualizing & Verbalizing...
special ed mom
You can do it!!!
My daughter struggled to learn to read and was diagnosed
with dyslexia at the end of first grade. I went to Linda
Mood Bell (and other places) and was turned off by the
price. Tutoring or other regular reading programs are not
designed for challenges like dyslexia and others. You need a
specific program like LMB or others that address the challenge.
I tutored my daughter using the Barton system over the
summer with dramatic results. We worked together one summer
every day for 30-40 minutes and did all kinds of things to
make it fun. Aside from teaching my daughter, it helped me
to understand her specific challenges, so I could support
her (for example your natural urge to say ''sound it out'' is
the worst thing to say).
Of course, the challenge that makes it hard to learn to read
comes up in other areas too, so it is really helpful to
The Barton system is designed to train you to tutor your
child. You have to watch DVDs each weeks that show you how
to do the lesson plan, but it works.
My 4th-grade daughter is thriving now and loves to read and
write. Her teachers cannot believe that she struggled with
I read your post and it sounds like your child has a
reading disability. If so, you might want to consider the
Susan Barton reading system. My son has been diagnosed with
Dyslexia and struggled for the past 3 years with reading.
In his current school, his teacher uses the program and it
has worked wonders. While he is now 8.5 years old and still
not reading at grade level, he now has the tools to
decipher words and is more comfortable with reading. He
even told me the other day he would like to work in a
library and read ''big thick books.'' The Barton System has
trained tutors you can hire (there are some in the East
Bay) and has in-home DVD's to purchase so parents can learn
the system to use at home. I know of two moms who taught/
helped their kids read with the in-home DVD's. Check them
out on the internet. There is even a small video clip to
give you a taste of how the system works.
Good luck and I hope you find the right learning ''match''
for your child.
Mom with ''late'' reader.
My daughter had serious challenges in learning to read. We went all out
and sent her to Lindamood-Bell. It was the best thing we ever did for her.
She is now avidly reading well above grade level and enjoying it. Their system
works amazingly well for the right kids. It will not work well if you have a low
IQ (Berkeley will not use the word IQ but does the same tests in the schools)
and that is why you have trouble reading. I believe it taught my daughter how
to process in order to read. She memorized what 1,000-2,000 words looked
like at LM and from there could learn any new words herself. Most of us do
not have to memorize the look of a word. Part of what works with LM is the
intensity (4 hours a day for 2-4 months). Research shows that the level of
intensity is critical with reading challenges. There was no way I could have
done that on my own with my daughter.
Considering Lindamood Bell for 13 year old
We are considering Lindamood Bell for our son who is 13. It
is a lot of time and money as far as commitment from our
end. While we are probably willing to do this, I would like
to hear from other people what their experiences have been,
pluses and drawbacks etc...I know they have a policy that if
your child is sick and can't make a session, you still have
to pay. Have you found that there is some flexibility in
that policy? Thanks much!
My son did LIPS at Lindamood Bell in Walnut Creek. It was
expensive and it was well worth it. He was finally able to
decode words and could read. Really read. Mother of a
LMB Seeing Stars program for 7yr old daughter delivered
exactly as promised, but seemed miraculous. We did 4
hrs/day, 5 days/week, after school. As it was targetted to
her level exactly, she was not tired by the work. They took
her from unable to read to fluency in exactly the amount of
time prescribed. Almost immediately on finishing, she
became an avid reader. Their sick policy is their sick
policy, end of story. If you know of schedule conflict
(vacation, etc) let them know when you are setting your
daily schedule. Would do it again in a heartbeat
I sent my son to about five weeks of LMB when he was in 1st
grade and it was incredibly expensive and did very little
What has helped a great deal is seeing private tutors with
good training, experience and joy of working with children.
We did Lindamood Bell this summer for our 7-year-old
diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorder who is at the
1st percentile in reading, writing and math among second
graders (his current grade) while being at the 99.53
percentile in non-verbal intelligence/30th percentile in
verbal intelligence. So with this start, I'm trying to say,
know what is causing your child's learning issues because
that makes a difference in what to do.
LIPS (which took about two to two-and-a-half weeks for him),
a program that taught him to distinguish phonemes through
the position of his lips, tongue, teeth, airstream, voice
box vibrations, distinguishing and associate them with
written letters. Now he can actually decode words. Very,
very, very slowly, but is willing to try to read. Without
building phoneme awareness in this way (something the school
was adamantly opposed to doing) he would not be reading at
Seeing Stars, mixed success with my son's below average
short term verbal memory. Over course of the summer (4/hrs
a day, 5 day/week, mega bucks), he can decode words with
four separate phonemes, sometimes five. They taught me a
method for teaching spelling and sight words that works for
words with 4 to 5 phonemes, occasionally short
multi-syllable words and not at all for long mutli-syllable
words like Antarctica, Atlantic, Australia (just had a
geography test on continents and oceans--can you tell?).
The progress due to memory issues was painstaking and slow,
slow, slow. It does work for him and if we could afford
more, probably would take care of multi-syllable words, too.
But it's way too slow and doesn't tap into his speedy
non-verbal abilities. (Of course, the school hasn't figured
out how to do that either.)
Which gets to the main points. If your kid has an IEP,
they're supposed to educate your child for free, doing all
the stuff Lindamood Bell does. We hadn't educated ourselves
enough in the 2004 IDEA to know that. Maybe you're smarter
than us. If not, I recommend the Wrightslaw books starting
with 'From Emotion to Advocacy' where you'll get info on the
federal mandate to provide 'a free, appropriate public
education in the least restrictive environment.' Schools
are brutal in making sure you get to fight for everything
they give regardless of the federal mandate.
Even though I now know much of what I paid for at Lindamood
Bell this summer should have been done at school on my
tax-paid money, I don't regret what we spent (and we really
couldn't afford it) because my son now can truly begin to
read, I have data on the fact he can be educated, and am
finally learning how to get him what he needs and not to
trust the school at all.
If your kid doesn't have an IEP and you want to give
Lindamood Bell a try, do not sign the long term contract
they request. Limit your commitment to a few weeks. I
guarantee they will do their best to make sure your child
learns enough to keep you coming back or you can just walk
away. My take
Lindamood Bell Seeing Stars for dyslexic daughter?
We are seriously considering Lindamood Bell Seeing Stars
Program for our dyslexic daugher. There are a few reviews of
LB but I would really like to hear from anyone who
has had positive or negative experiences at Lindamood Bell -
especially if the problems your child had were in the lines of
very bright - high overall IQ (verbal and performance) and
serious dyslexia. The program is very expensive and represents
a huge committment for our family but there seem to be a lot of
reasons to believe there is a high chance of good results.
Thanks for your responses.
Need your Advice
I am a teacher in an Oakland public school, and we have had several students go
through the Linda Mood Bell program. For them it is a half-day program, and it was of
no cost to them, but they had to have been in the special ed. program for a while. For
the students I know who went through it, it was the only thing that really made a
dramatic difference. They came out of the program after a year as readers. Our
resource teacher can't speak highly enough of the program. To be sure, these are the
most severe cases of dyslexia; most of our students do not attend that program. But
for several, it was the place of last resort, and it did its job. I hope this helps. Good
Lindamood-Bell summer intensive program for dyslexia
My 7 year old has just been identified as Dyslexic. She is
finishing first grade and we have been referred to the
Lindamood-Bell summer intensive program. Has anyone had great
success with Lindamood-Bell or any other strategies for dyslexia?
My daughter is highly motivated but is falling behind her classmates.
My nine year old son is quite dyslexic; he was extremely behind
in third grade, when a teacher finally said he might be
dyslexic. I started him with a wonderful Slingerland tutor. I
can't say enough good things about it!!! I've heard about
Lindamood Bell too. I've heard it's quite expensive and helps
as well. I've heard from many parents that Slingerland is
where they would put their money if they'd have to do it all
over again. Good luck! Support is crucial for these
children. ''Overcoming Dyslexia'' by Sally Shaywitz is 'the
bible' on dyslexia, and explains a lot.
Mom of a Dyslexic
We did 100 hours at Lindamood Bell in Walnut Creek for my son
about 2 years ago. He was in 4th grade at the time and he had
already spent the previous few years seeing quite a few
different educ. therapists with limited results. Thankfully the
last ed. therapist said he needed the intensity of the LMB
program. It truly worked wonders! It was expensive, but worth
every penny. I only wish he had done it before 4th grade. He
now loves to read. Spelling skills are slower to improve and
even now in 6th grade he could use another round of LMB for
spelling, but we just can't swing it financially. Highly
recommend Lindamood Bell for help with dyslexia!
mom of a happy reader
Lindamood Bell V&V training -comments?
Hi, I am looking into this program for my 10 yr old son. Can
anyone comment on their Visualizing and Verbalizing program
the Berkeley center? What did you notice about your child
the program? Would you recommend it? Did you do the intensive
training? Were improvements maintained over time? How did
child incorporate training with school time?
My 19 yr old son was diagnosed with dyslexia in 3rd grade. He was very
articulate and listened to books on tape, but he could not decode
words and consequently could not read. Because he was so young
(eight), we hired a women who had taken the Lindamoodbell training and
came highly recommended. It changed my son's life.He later took
classes at the Berkeley center and graduated from BHS. He wrote about
his Lindamood bell experience in one of his college essays and talked
about learning to accomodate to his learning difference and how it
framed his approach to life . He is currently a sophomore at Wesleyan
in Connecticut and doing very well academically.
Lindamood-Bell summer program for 8 year old
We are looking into the intensive Lindamood-Bell program this summer for our son,
who is 8 years old and very far behind in his reading/language skills. I would love
to hear directly from other parents who have tried this program. Specifically, I am
wondering if your child retained what they learned and if it helped move them closer
to grade level in their reading skills, or if after the intensive training, your child
ended up reverting to previous patterns and problems with reading. We believe we
are dealing with severe dyslexia, although that has been difficult to diagnose at this
point (and, believe me, we've been through the gamut of testing).
Thanks in advance.
There were two questions posted regarding reading
programs/dyslexia so I'll cover both in my post.
My son (also 8 years old) began showing signs of a weak visual
memory as early as kindergarten. He had trouble remembering the
shapes of letters but very strong phenomic awareness. His first
grade teacher noticed that he had a poor sight word vocabulary
and thought it was a visual processing/visual memory issue. She
suggested we get some help for him during the summer.
I checked into Reading Revolution but their closest office would
have been an hour round trip so we decided to hire a private
learning specialist who lives near his public elementary school
to work with him intensively during the summer and twice a week
after school. I found her through The Learning Clinic at UC
She uses a combination of Lindamood-Bell and Seeing Stars. He is
working very hard at this and is a good student but is still
behind his class in reading speed (words per minute) and still
lacks confidence in decoding multiple syllable words
However, I am seeing wonderful improvements in his overall
competence and confidence, particularly in decoding simpler words
and he is willing to tackle more and more. He will now read a
book from cover to cover which is a vast improvement over last year.
One last thought: We have found his teachers to be quite
sensitive and empathetic to his needs and they have included our
private educational therapist in parent teacher meetings, at our
request. It's been a successful working partnership between the
classroom teachers, the resources available at school, the
parents, and our outside provider.
I can't answer your question directly, but when my daughter
was having reading problems I found a lot of help at
www.schwablearning.org. There is tons of information on
their bulletin board about Lindamood-Bell, and people's
experiences there (mainly positive, though big concerns
about how expensive it is). You also can post questions and
get feedback. I am not affiliated with the web site. It was
funded by Charles Schwab, who is dyslexic, but operates as
a nonprofit. Finally, I know it is tough so good luck.
I am looking for a Linda mood Bell professional who can work
with my child on the weekends. My son went Linda mood Bell
center during the summer and we would like to continue with
their trainig. Please help.
I know of two people who have had training in the Lindamood
Bell reading methods (one of whom worked at their clinic for a
while). I am not sure if either works on weekends.
Kristen Hawkinson 526-8701
Joan Fierer 465-0465
I have a 10 year old son. He hates to read and as a result, his
vocabulary and comprehension is suffering. I am considering
enrolling him in
the Lindamood-Bell program and need advise on what others
think of thier
program. PLEASE ADVISE.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Two summers ago my son was tutored for spelling at Lindamood-Bell
in downtown Berkley. The tutoring was for 4 hours a day, five
days a week, for 3 weeks. Alot of hard work! With great results.
I found the initial testing very helpful in finding out how my
son learns and what his weak points are. The people who worked
with my son were professional, yet fun. My son complained to me
about one tutor and I asked that she no longer work with him.
This request was taken seriously and honored. After completing
the three weeks, my son was retested with great results. Most
importantly in the 2 years since Lindamood-Bell he's transformed
into a confident, independent and high achieving student. He's
also learned that through hard work you can overcome obstacles.
Re: 4th Grader with "phonemic weakness"
There are several good programs that address p.a. I am not
familiar with Wilson, but Lindamood-Bell is definitely one of the
It is expensive but very effective, and they have an office
in Berkeley. If your daughter is several years below grade level
in her reading ability, then you will want to invest a lot of
time in an intensive remediation NOW, rather than let her fall
further and further behind. I am familiar with Lindamood-Bell
through my work as an educational consultant, and I sent my own
daughter there to work on math. They were very warm, caring, and
motivating. She made a strong connection with all her teachers
and was able to work intensively for several hours per day (in
the summer.) Good luck finding the right program for your
Does anyone have first-hand experience with the Lindamood-Bell Learning
Center here in Berkeley. Did it help your child? How much?
Would you recommend it?
My son has had 60 hours of tutoring at Lindamood-Bell. He just finished up a
week ago. I've been very pleased with the tutoring. The initial testing was
extensive and informative. There was no hard sell. And my son is now a much
more self confident learner. It was a lot of hard work, but has really paid
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