Steve and Kate's Camp (Berkeley, CA)
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June 2011
Both my daughter & son attended Steve & Kate's camp from kindergarten
to 7th grade & 6th grade respectively. I can't speak highly enough
about their camp & until this day, my kids still have extremely fond
memories of all the great fun they had with and without their friends.
Here's their philosophy - it's all child directed. That's right -
your child picks the fun activities they pursue for the day & the kids
they'll hang out with as well as what they will eat for lunch from the
truly marvelous healthy choices they offer. Trust me, S&K + their first
class staff know how to offer activities that will ring your child's
bell. It is so empowering for your child to be in control of their own
day. What FUN it is for them to make decisions about their day while
being tended to by their carefully selected staff. My kids have always
led a very structured schedule while in school along with their
extracurricular activities of soccer, baseball & music lessons. As I
look back on their S&K camp days, the biggest gift they received was the
freedom to do what they wanted, an important aspect missing in the
accelerated world our children live in. The other attractive component
of their camp is the fact that you don't have to commit to session
dates. This means you can plan your vacations first, then fill in your
camp dates by purchasing camp hours. Whatever camp hours you don't use
are refunded back to you soon after camp ends. S&K's camp is just a
win-win situation!!
Phyllis
May 2011
Has anyone had any recent experience with Steve and Kate's camps. They have
many locations around the Bay, and I was considering the Berkeley location, but
might do another location in Contra Costa country.
I would appreciate all feedback pros and cons.
Thanks,
PK
In response to the question about Steve & Kate's Camp:
We have had a great time with them! There are so many activities for
our first grader and his older cousins (10 & 12). I love that things
like filmmaking and a recording studio are offered to the younger kids
as well as to the older kids. My niece loves the cooking studio and
that she can do whatever she feels like doing every day of the summer
- all the kids can pick whatever activities they feel like working on
each day and don't get stuck doing the same thing day in and day out.
My older nephew loved all the camp games and outdoor activities they
offered - seemed like they always did a good job of wearing the kids
out every day!
I loved that they didn't have to go off site for any field trips (so I
didn't have to worry about them traveling around the Bay Area without
me), but every day there was something new and exciting that the staff
brought in, like a magic show, a water slide, bouncy houses, and
petting zoo animals. The staff seemed more mature and experienced than
many other summer programs we've tried out (they're all at least in
college-and it seems like many we got to know were teachers or in some
other kind of professional field working with kids during the school
year). I know this year they are planning on adding many more
locations. Their website says the East Bay locations are El Cerrito,
Berkeley, Lafayette, Danville, and Pleasanton, and you can use
multiple locations if it's more convenient for you. We will just stick
to our home campus, though - the kids get so involved with the staff
and the new friends that they make, that I can't see mixing it up by
going to more than one location. It sounds like a nice option, though,
for people who need it.
Boy Mama
hi There,
my 2 very different kids have both ADORED Steve & Kates! We have used
Kentfield and Berkekley sites-you can send the kids to any camp site,
and because different cities have different schedules for school
vacation, we had almost 100% coverage for the entire summer. Older kid
loved the arts & crafts; she's a pretty picky eater but thought the
food was awesome. Younger kid loved meeting all the different kids and
making lots of new friends and got a big kick out of the game-show
stuff, which older kid avoided. She ate like a horse the entire
summer. I loved having one place to drop my kids off, knowing they
were having a great time, and certainly didn't miss packing 2 lunches
on a daily basis. The staff is young, energetic and as great as you
would hope they'd be with the kids. I think it's worth the $!
Back to Steve & Kate's this summer!
Got to give Steve and Kate's two thumbs down, I'm afraid to say. My
son had one day at the Berkeley location and that was enough. My son
is shy, and he was going to be there without anyone he knew. Before I
left in the morning, I asked the counselors and the camp director to
check in with him and help him find some friends.
But when I picked him up at the end of the day, he was playing Lego by
himself. When I asked him how his day had been, he started crying.
He told me that he'd played video games all morning (they have a room
set up just for playing video games), and that he'd played Lego alone
all afternoon.
When I called the staff later to ask what had happened, why they had
basically let my son spend the day alone, a young woman asked me
''what's wrong with your son? Does he have a social problem?'' No, my
son does not have a social problem, unless you think shyness is a
social problem.
I should say also that the next day at Monkey Business Camp, the head
counselor had this same shy son helping and laughing and part of a
group group of kids within 10 minutes of arriving. A little emotional
& social intelligence and kindness was all it took to help him join
the group. I left confident that he would have a good day.
Happier elsewhere
As a prior poster said two thumbs down, that was my assessment too,
from summer of 2009. My son is very social and outgoing. He makes
friends very easily. He started Steve & Kate's camp in Berkeley 2
summers ago in July so many or most kids had already been there since
June so they knew the drill. The counselors whispered: ''ok, 8 year
olds, come with me'' at which point all the 8 yr olds knew that they
were supposed to leave the morning assembly to move on to the next
plan. My son was sitting on the fringe of the campers, he did know
know that any whispering was going on, and that that would be how he
would receive his cue to leave the morning assembly. Zero orientation
on that front. So... luckily, another parent told me what was going
on. (the whispering was being done to reinforce less shouting or
something like that.) I went to the 8 yr old group counselor and
told her my son did not know what was going on and she pretty much
told me to go get him, which I did. He joined the group. But nobody
was friendly or inviting to him at all. He played with the video
games most of the day and a bit of Lego. The playground at the
facilities they use looked cramped and crowded. I don't know if the
kids care but this is summer, right? It looked like a crowded school
day. I have never seem my son so unstimulated at a summer camp, and
I did not send him back after that one day.
-anon
Feb 2011
We are considering sending our 8-year-old son to Steve and Kate's
camp for the entire summer - it looks great on their website, but we
don't know anyone who has attended. Of the 3 reviews in the BPN
archives, two are positive and one is negative. We'd love to hear from
others about the good and not-so-good things about this camp - please
also say how many weeks your child attended. I'm wondering if kids
might get bored after a few weeks. Thanks so much.
Camp planning mom
My 2 daughters (7 and 10) went to Steve and Kates for 5 weeks last summer
and LOVED it. They were at the Berkeley camp. The centers themselves are
the same each day, but the activities within each are different (some by
day, some by week). Some activities were quite popular - the girls would
have to stop by a few times over the week to get in - but they always did
what they wanted by the end of the week. Each day the ''daily special''
is different (not required to go) and they can always choose free play if
they don't want to go to a center.
The counselors are fantastic, the food is wonderful (so nice not to have
to pack lunches and snacks like other camps!) and the girls really liked
the ''big'' weekly activities (bathtub races, climbing wall) and the camp
games that end each day.
When we asked the girls what they liked best about the summer before they
went back to school, which included us taking standard ''vacation'' type
trips and family adventures, Steve and Kates was in both of their top 3
lists.
a Steve and Kate's fan
My daughter (age 10) really enjoyed her time at Steve and Kate's
(Berkeley site) last year and has asked several times to return this
year. Our schedule is flex so she went about half a dozen times -- not
all in a row -- so it stayed fresh. I wouldn't recommend an entire summer
but there are tons of activities and she said the food was good (cooked
in the school's kitchen). The counselors had great energy and every day
there is a special activity. Like a tiny disneyland.
River
My daughter, who was 9 last summer, attended Steve and Kate's in Berkeley
for the first time. She spent 2 weeks there and enjoyed it quite a bit. I
think much longer and she would have been bored. She chose the 2 weeks
based upon the special weekly activities.
You didn't say which campus you are interested in. The Berkeley campus
was nice, but very urban and small. It would have been great if there was
a swimming element to the camp.
Since I've been sending my kids to summer camp (the past 12 years), I
have found 2 weeks is the max for most camps with the exception of the 6
week drama camp they have enjoyed.
Check out This Land is Your Land too..
Sabrina
Our son was 11 when he went to Steve and Kates. Things he liked were the
freedom to do his own thing/pick his own activities and the food - he
raved about the meals! He felt that a lot of the kids were younger than
him and he would have preferred more in his age group (this would not be
a problem for your child's age group). The other possible negative is
that many of the activities are ''rewards based''. Lots of prizes...I
think it may have been a little bit too rewards based for our son.
Overall, he enjoyed the camp fine but I think (in retrospect) I would not
have put him in for several weeks as we did. You might try it for a week
or two and see how your child likes it. In our experience, we were able
to book at the last minute and still get him in.
East Bay Mom
April 2010
Steve & Kate's Camp (Berkeley location) looks like a
wonderfully creative place for my 6-year-old daughter, but I
don't know anyone whose children have attended. I would
appreciate feedback from those who have experience with it,
in particular the quality of counselors and activities.
Ann
My kids went for 2 weeks last year (ages 6 and 9, female and
male). They both found the freeform nature a bit confusing and
it took them a week to get the hang of it. They had some anxiety
and frustration over it.
In the end though, they both loved it and would like to go
back (alas, I can't afford it this year).
Quality of staff? What I witnessed was fine - friendly, outgoing,
caring. But for the rest of time? I heard no complaints from my kids,
no ''horror stories'' of any kind. I suppose I wish there was a better
way to acclimate kids who were trying to figure out the system,
but then again, it's also good for kids to do some real-life problem
solving - let them talk to staff and kids and figure it out - which they did.
My older child suffers from an anxiety disorder and is also
a picky eater (so their open-all-day cafe had little appeal
for him) - but if HE wanted to go back, then I'd give it a
thumbs up for all.
Mom of Two
Steve and Kate's camp was not a good fit for my child. The
camp seemed really centered around competing for things:
rubber chickens, honey sticks and prizes. My daughter came
home in tears both days she went because she said the adults
were really unfair and didn't give prizes to everyone for trying
(disclosure: she goes to a school where she doesn't
encounter rewards as incentives or lots of competitive
activities). The counselors didn't remember her name and
she was confused with another child and reprimanded for
doing something she didn't do. Steve and Kate's publicize
their special activities like making a movie, but she didn't
get her first choice activity either day she went and while
making the movie she did she felt bullied by another child
and the counselor didn't help her. Granted, both days she went
were in August towards the end of the summer, but I expected
a higher caliber of care for the price. There was lots of
sugar available throughout the day in the foods (oatmeal
available every morning with unlimited sugar, ice cream in
the afternoons.) Yes, it was organic! It was not at all
worth the price in our opinion. Paying for a week of the
Downtown Berkeley YMCA and only using two-three days
of it is a much better use of our money!
Anon
April 2009
Re: Summer camp for daughter just finishing kindergarten
Steve and Kate's Camp - About $2,000 for the
entire summer. Kids have a great time - you need a self
motivated kid because there is a general assumption your child
will choose one or more of the activities if they're
interested. Great value, lots of fun. There is a dog, so if
you're kid is allergic this is not the camp for you.
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