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  • Reviews of DSL service? October 2003
  • Looking for a DSL carrier July 2003
  • DSL vs. Cable Modem Dec 2001
  • Carrier for DSL May 2001
  • Is DSL OK? Dec 1999

    Reviews of DSL service?

    October 2003

    Hi, does anyone have any recent reviews on an ISP/DSL provider, positive OR negative? The recent stuff I've seen on the parents webpage seems a little old; plus, the business is constantly changing, yes? We had some problems on our phone line, and an SBC guy came out to replace the line coming into our house (luckily, at their expense). I asked him about SBC DSL, and he, of course, gave it glowing reviews, and said we were only several hundred feet from a sourcebox [sic] (we're in the El Cerrito/Richmond view hills). When I went to dslreports.com, it indicated our CO (sourcebox?) was located more toward central Richmond-- which is more than ''several hundred feet' (more like 12,000 ft!) DSL reports was recommending Earthlink for our neighborhood, but the user feedback seemed kinda lukewarm. They also recommended Megapath, which seemed more for businesses (and was expensive). Any advice, greatly appreciated! Jim


    have you considered cable modem? i just got the service from comcast and the modem thru broadbandoffers.com (or something like that). when the software installation got a little tricky for me, i just called the toll-free number and the woman took me step-by-step. cable is fast! suzie
    We recently had SBC DSL service installed (in N. Berkeley), and we're pleased, wished we'd done it long ago. But we warn you that SBC is dysfunctional - you have to talk with different offices about orders, equipment, installation advice, etc. etc. If you can handle the frustration, once you're set up, you're likely to be glad you made the change. Wireless access is a really neat feature if you have a laptop! anon
    The best and most up to date info on broadband connections can be found here: http://www.dslreports.com/ We picked our current provider (Earthlink) through this website. It has thorough user reviews. It was very useful for getting exactly what you need.
    Addition to earlier post: I just skimmed your post about dslreports; sorry about that! We have Earhtlink and my husband is a programmer who works from home. The service is pretty reliable; we've had few outages. Our complaint was that we couldn't get a static ip address, but if you don't need that, they're good. We have more than basic service, and pay $65/month. I would recommend them. Sian Sian
    We have been very disappointed with our SBC DSL service- it is SOOOOOO slow! milli
    We recently switched from earthlink dialup to earthlink DSL. I am disappointed in the speed -- it's just not fast enough to justify charging $30 more per month. I complained to earthlink and they sent me some suggestions for improving the speed. So far none have helped, but I haven't yet tried them all. I chose earthlink over SBC because I had heard mostly poor reviews about SBC (including from dslreports). Now I'm not so sure I made the right decision. Good luck.
    They are a little bit pricier (I think), but the best in customer service and performance is speakeasy.net. I used to work at Covad and we always knew that if you wanted to find a Covad alumni, just assume their email address was their lastname@speakeasy.net. Ex covad employees, including myself, all seem to get speakeasy DSL because of their excellent customer service. I think that the reviews bear this out too. sarah
    I've been a computer and network manager for more than 25 years. In fact, I was the manager and provider of the first computer Ginger used for parents.berkeley.edu. I've also had DSL for over 4 years and have helped uncounted friends and neighbors get connected with both DSL and cable.

    With all that experience I can say that both DSL and cable internet service are a crapshoot. You'll find as many people saying good things about one technology or company as you find saying bad. In my experience, most of the problems aren't caused by the DSL or cable service itself. Rather, it's often been the flakyness of Windows 95, 98, and ME. I've seen real improvements since Windows XP has become the prevalent desktop operating system.

    Another way to improve your chances for success is to use a broadband router, even if you just have one PC. This approach lets you avoid having to install DSL or cable service specific software on your PC. Instead, the router handles all this. Plus, you get the added benefit of the firewalling done to various degrees by the various routers these days.

    My recommendation is to talk to people in your neighborhood to see what their experiences are, and then to go with whatever people like. Then, make sure you have an experienced computer person you can call if things go wrong. Although some of the customer support people are very nice and try very hard, most of them really don't know much about computers or networking. Jon


    OK, I thought I had posted this response but I must not have hit the submit button again because I didn't receive a confirmation and didn't see it in the newsletter.

    I've been very happy with my DSL service from speakeasy.net . The service has been wonderful. I chose it over pac bell because of the static IP. Pac Bell has extra software that you need to load on your computer to connect- not a big deal but just something else that could go wrong IMO.

    Several months ago I ran speed tests on my service and that of 2 neighbors. The cable beat us hands down (of course). My neighbor's Pac Bell service was slightly faster than mine (speakeasy is provived by COVAD) but I'm not sure if type of computer effects speed. I did receive an email from speakeasy not too long ago that they were upgrading their circuits and we'd see an improvement in speed once that was completed.

    Either way it's plenty for me. I bought a router and now have both of our home computers hooked up, so the kids can surf while I do.

    One tip: At the time I signed up, pac bell had a promotion that included a reduced rate for a year. When I mentioned this to speakeasy they offered me a month's free service. Sophie


    Looking for a DSL carrier

    July 2003

    We need to get internet service at home, and I am tempted to go with SBC yahoo since they are offering this deal at 29.95/month for the first year. Has anyone had any experience with them? Alternatively, does anyone have a provider to recommend? I think we prefer DSL. I looked on the parents' website, but only found old recommendations, and I know things have changed a lot in the past 2 years. Thanks. needing a hook-up


    I recommend sonic.net for your Internet Service Provider. I started with them in January after having had DSL from Pacbell since 1998, which became SBCYahoo last year. I never had a problem until they changed to SBCYahoo. The service itself became very advertising intensive on every page related to accessing email or my account. The user interface is hokey and designed to funnel you to their offerings. When I switched my computer to Windows XP, the SBCYahoo customer service related to getting support for the change from Windows98 to XP was horrendous: interminable waits on hold and poorly informed technical staff. After 6 weeks of trying to get them help me with the DSL changeover to XP, I switched to getting my DSL through sonic.net which has excellent technical support and great customer service. In actuality, sonic.net uses SBC cables so they're really a reseller, but so much easier to deal with that it's worth. (Usually bargains like the SBCYahoo special offers require you to sign up for a year or two or pay a large penalty.) With SBC I spent about $75 a month for my DSL and voice line. Now I pay about $57 for sonic.net (and that includes a couple of static IPs which are extra from SBC) and it's a separate bill from the SBC phone bill which is down to about $20. So talk to sonic.net before signing up and see what you think. Good luck! Kathy
    I've used Northpoint and DirectTV DSL, all driven out of business due to Pac Bell's uncooperative (monopolistic) practices. Most DSL providers not affiliated/owned by a baby Bell phone company are driven out of business. The result is bad customer service, and ruthless pricing to drive out remaining competition. So, I would consider SBC/Yahoo an ISP of absolute last resort. If you just want to surf and download, you can use either cable or dsl. Cable tends to be speedier for the money. If you would like to host your own email or web server, then you'll need DSL with a fixed (static) address. The best deal for static address DSL with superior customer service is http://www.dslextreme.com, a small L.A. based, privately held, profitable ISP. Read and compare reviews at http://www.broadbandreports.com. They're charging $45/month for the first year and $50 thereafter with free self-installation and modem. Their dynamic address DSL is $35/month the first year. I recommend them whole-heartedly with one caveat: their tech support line is only available 9a-5p. I've used their customer support: they're young, competent, succinct, and most importantly, correct in their diagnoses. kim
    I have my DSL service through California.com (http://www.california.com/products/index.html). California.com is a local re-seller for Covad. California.com has great customer service, and Covad's is reasonable for a large company.

    You should also look at LMI.net (http://lmi.net/services/dsl/index.php), based in Berkeley. I buy my dialup internet access from them, and customer service is first rate.

    I have not even tried SBC, because a number of my co-workers have tried them and had awful things so say. They reported long delays getting set up, and terrible customer support.

    If saving money is your highest priority I doubt anyone can beat SBC (but you should contact the locals and ask whether they can meet or at least approach SBC's price) just bear in mind that some of your savings in cash may be ''spent'' in time and aggravation getting it to work and keeping it working. Jim


    this may be damning with faint praise, but... we have had the sbc dsl for over a year, and have been satisfied with the long- term performance. we've only had one major outage, when some makjr accident occurred somewhere down the cable. on the down side, their customer serivce in the initial days was substandard- -but by then we had already given them our money! we did the installation ourselves, so i can't speak for their work on that part of the deal (regardless, we spent LOTS of time on the phone with them trying to get all the details ironed out). anon
    We have had DSL through SBC yahoo for a year now and we have no complaints. My husband telecommutes so it gets used a LOT and he says the connection is pretty solid. I think we have only experienced one or two outages since we started our service. And based on our past experience (we had DSL through the local phone company when we lived in another state) that's really good. And since it's through yahoo you get access to their stuff (like games, etc...) that you can only use if you are a subscriber. Sarah
    David Lazarus in the Chronicle Business section had a series of articles about SBC Yahoo fairly recently. The gist of it: Bad customer service, hardsell on Yahoo, extra fees if you used something other than YahooAuctions for selling services. I've also worked with a number of people who have had real problems using pop with their mail to the university since the reverse dns lookup from SBC works poorly. You have to go up a number of levels to get folks who might even know what you are talking about to resolve. The good news is that it's a great deal, and once it is in is fairly reliable. Good Luck.
    I signed up for SBC Yahoo DSL about 10 days ago. I had to sign a one year contract, and in exchange for this got a ''plus'' connection for $30/month and a wireless router with built-in firewall for $50 after rebate. I bought a $40 wireless card from Dell for my laptop, and now have a home network on which I can share a printer plus have shared internet access from a WinXP desktop and a Win2k laptop. The standard software package installs with little input from the user and is necessary primarily to activate the DSL connection. The rest of the software on CD consists of service packs for different versions of Windows (a good thing) and add-ons to promote the use of Yahoo services whenever possible, including SBC-Yahoo browser which annoyingly suggests yahoo services whenever possible, bit fortunately can be easy uninstalled (to intimidate users, this browser is called SBC Yahoo! DSL in the Add/Remove panel - obviously to make them think that if they uninstall it, the whole DSL setup will go to hell, which of course does not happen). While the actual download speed may vary from location to location, I got speed close to the promised 1500 kbps (I actually measured 1250 kbps). This is very close to 1350 kbps which I measured using the same tool at my office, where I have ethernet. Upload speed is also quite close to what was promised (around 100-150 kbps). I knew that DSL would be faster than dial- up, but I did not expect download speeds close to those of ethernet, and was literally blown off by the performance I got. The wireless router has a hardware-based firewall which can be configured to limit certain protocols of inbound and outbound traffic. It also allows ''stealth'' mode in which the dynamic IP address which you get cannot be pinged on the web. Additionally, I got 760 MB of web storage and an e-mail address with 25 MB inbox plus several additional mailboxes with 10 MB limit.

    In my opinion, SBC promotion is the best value for DSL available at this time. I cannot comment on their technical support since I did not need it.

    By the way, if you wish you can sign up on month-to month basis, but the same service costs $50 per month and you get no rebate on the router. Andrei


    DSL vs. Cable Modem

    December 2001

    We are switching from a dial-up to either DSL or a cable modem system for our computers and wonder if anybody out there has had a particularly good experience with specific provider. We value quality service and good customer service too. Lowest price is not the biggest issue. Thanks in advance Rob + Bobbie


    We've been using Earthlink for DSL service recently... Overall, I've found them to be OK... They've gotten very big by buying up alot of smaller DSL services providers, so getting thru to a real person if and when you have a problem is sometimes time-consuming... Although, to their credit, I've found once I get thru, their people are friendly and fairly knowledgable. We pay $49.00 per month... I'm sure there are cheaper services out there... I'd just caution you to remember the old saying 'you get what you pay for'. This indistry is going thru ALOT of change right now.. Companies are going out of business and/or being bought up almost monthly. A good reference site for this type of information is http://www.dslreports.com/ Hope this helps Tom
    I have been with AT&T the past two years and am seriously considering switching to DSL in the very near future. The switch over from the @home network to AT&T's own network has been extremely frustrating to say the least. They are limiting download speeds, there is no technical support if you have issues with the new setup (which I do in the case of accessing my work account), etc. etc. Bottom line, if you are not already stuck with this service, I certainly would not recommend it. Good luck. (By the way, I was pretty happy with it before the switch, but they have been just awful to deal with since the switch over.) Susan
    I've heard nothing good about the switch from @home to att. It happened quite suddenly and many folks were without service for several days, and now there are multiple problems with their DNS. For a description of the problems some on-campus users have been having visit the Micronet website at: http://ls.berkeley.edu/mail/micronet/ with threads alternately named AT&T Slough of Despond and Reach Out and Kick Someone. I have heard that the situation is much better for Macs than it is for PC's. We have DSL and have now been through three service providers. We are still using Covad as the provisioner, and they have recently come out of bankruptcy. Our current provider is SpeakEasy.Net and we like them a lot. Of course, this is an ephemeral business, apparently. Check DSLReports.com and keep an eye on the business page to see what the scoop is with various providers. Myriam
    I am very happy with my ATT cable modem. Except for the problems with the whole Excite business, I have found it to be very reliable and fast. Helena
    try and get Earthlink. they were pretty good with me and customer service. we tried to do a router, and even though they weren't supposed to provide customer support, they gave very helpful suggestions. they're big and they're not going anywhere. their webmail, however is slow their "last mile" installer was Covad, but I think that co is bankrupt. Brendan

    Carrier for DSL

    May 2001

    For those of you with DSL lines in their home, could you recommend your phone line provider? Do any of you have strong negative or positive opinions about Earthlink, Flashcom, SBC, Qwest Communications or Verizon/Bell Atlantic ? I have heard that the installation process can take a long time in our area. How much time in advance should one begin the ordering process? I have read the comments posted on the Parents website but none of these companies were mentioned. Thank you


    I would like to recommend Mindspring-Earthlink. I got DSL from them when it first became available in this area, now about 2 years ago. Installation was relatively quick but Covad (the installaton subcontractor) was not as good as Earthlink, however, Earthlink compensated for Covad's doofuses in the end. Their service has been beyond fabulous. Hours of help (even when the caller is crying and cursing computers!) by sweet and patient techies for no extra charge. The money I pay Earthlink is well worth it. They are saints. Christine
    This website http://www.dslreports.com/ has all kinds of information, reviews, price comparisons etc. You can put your own zip code in there and get all kinds of info on what high speed connection is available and how closer you are to the connection point etc. Jared
    We had DSLNetworks and had some idiosyncracies with them. Covad cut them off recently, so we had to switch. Our new provider is SpeakEasy out of Seattle. We are really happy with them so far (about a month). We needed a static IP address with some special considerations (reverse DNS lookup for Berkeley's servers, the ability to run our own domain, BIND and secondary DNS) and they have understood what we've wanted and been able to accomodate us. The switch was relatively seamless, we didn't have to spend any time on the phone at all (they have an excellent web account tracking page) and our speeds have actually been faster than DSL Networks. They cost about $80 a month for us, but they have a package as low as $40 without a static IP address. Myriam
    In Response to the Recommendation of High Speed Internet Access. I had terrible experience with Earthlink DSL. Not only did they not know what the problem was that I was not connecting, I had to wait hours on the phone for tech support. When tech support could not figure out the problem, they stop helping me. I cancelled the service. Save yourself the trouble. Liquidimg

    Is DSL OK?

    Dec 1999

    I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has obtained residential DSL in the East Bay. We are moving to a new rental in Kensington and I am thinking about getting DSL. But there seem to be a zillion DSL providers out there, in addition to ol' PacBell itself. Surfing DSL users web sites turns up lots of horror stories -- two month waits, multiple missed installer appointments, miscomunication between phone company and DSL company and DSL network. So . . . anyone have praise to lavish, or warnings to give, or hints to share, about our local provider choices? Aspects I thought would be useful to hear about include (1) length of wait for service, (2) smoothness of install process, (3) total out-of-pocket cost (aka were there hidden costs?), (4) reliability and actual observed speed of service (getting what you paid for and getting it 24/7?), (5) competence in billing and customer care, (6) quality of the hardware provided. John


    Jerry
    I have had residential DSL for about 14 months now and while it's been totally flawless for me, there are lots of horror stories caused by the vendors constantly changing products. I recommend you look at the usenet newsgroup ba.internet and see what people have to say. A lot of your experience will depend on a) your requirements and b) your line speed. Good research will help you understand your requirements and whether a specific vendor can satisfy them, but unfortunately, your line speed will only be known after the line has been installed (and you have committed to the big bucks.) And, depending on the lines in your neighborhood and the popularity of DSL there, your line speed may decrease weeks after your installation. DSL service is usually a joint service provided by two companies. One company physically provides a phone line that carries digital packets from your house to the phone company. The other company connects to your phone line at the phone company and hooks you up to the Internet. Our contract provides for DSL with PacBell the Telco providing the line, and PacBell Internet being our ISP. I received an Alcatel 1000 modem and one static IP address. I signed up for 384/128 service. I was told that if I wanted to run webservers from our home, that was no problem. Regarding your specific questions: I had about a 2 week delay to get the service installed. It was painless and very smooth (so since then they have changed vendors of course....). The costs were/are: Installation Costs Waived Alcatel Modem and line splitter Waived Monthly DSL Line from PacBell 49.95 Monthly DSL Service from PacBell Internet $10.00 I also purchased (not from PacBell) A four port 10BT hub with BNC $29.95 A Sonicwall firewall router $350.00

    If you need a phone line, that will add $11 per month (plus installations costs). The waived charges would've been totalled $250. I purchased a firewall for security because I needed a router but I also feared that DSL lines would be subject to Internet hackers. That has been confirmed. Regularly, my firewall records various folks trying to hack our computer. Most people do not get a firewall. I believe this is out of ignorance. You can lock down your own Windows machines but I wasn't sanguine about that effort. Regarding speed and quality of the line and the service: About 4 months after receiving the service, PacBell upgraded it to 384+/128 service which means our download speed increased to 1200kbps. That was very nice. I've had no problems with the Alcatel. Other people have. It is now rare to get the Alcatel modem. I've had no problems with line sync. Other people have. I've had no problems with the speed of the line varying or being capped. Other people have.

    Regarding line speed changing over time, it comes down to the PacBell-the-ISP warranty of 384kpbs. That is all they need to provide you. Everything above that is gravy and subject to change. PacBell the ISP now rarely gives out static IP addresses but is moving to Dynamic IP addresses implemented through PPPoE and PPPoA. PPPoE/A makes your DSL experience exactly like a dialup service. It makes it easy for the phone company to configure your system, but it removes lots of functionality. This practically means that for new customers, home networks, home webservers, Linux, OS/2, and non-Windows or Macintosh support is gone. And people with PPPoE/A are reporting that the Windows/Mac support for that is sketchy at best. Static IPs mean that you can easily run a webserver from home, run a web business from home, and get attacked by hackers from home. It's a mixed bag. I have had few problems with PacBell's uptime, or mail and news services. But all over California including the Bay Area, other people report all the time that their local DSL line is down, or mail is down, or news is down. My advice is that if you are going to use PacBell Internet for your ISP that you determine your requirements before hand, and get PacBell to agree to it and get names if not letters/faxes/etc. confirming what you believe you are getting. Make sure you read and print out your contract. Also note that at one time, people claimed that you could switch ISPs without cost if they fail to satisfy your needs. That may or may not be true anymore. Determine if you need a static IP address. You can still get PacBell the telco to provide you with a DSL line but you can use a different ISP and they can get you a static IP if you want one. Again, lots of info on ba.internet. So to summarize, we have had a great experience, but many other people have not, and what drives everyone crazy is that PacBell keeps on changing the product every several months, so no one is really sure what they are going to get in the future. Um, after checking out your requirements, you may wish to look at TCI for a cable modem. They were in my neighborhood recently claiming cable modems were down to $19/month with no installation


    Myriam
    We were fortunate enough to be one of the very early adopters of DSL (and ISDN before it) through the munificence of a former employer. Our original service was through Rhythmns which was excellent, after a few small problems with installation.

    Rhythmns had great service: They used to call us if they noticed we were off line for any length of time (usually the result of kittens pulling the power cable out of the wall or out of the hub for our LAN). When my husband left the employer that provided DSL we attempted to continue service through them, since we were already set up. Unfortunately, at the time they were doing only commercial installations. They have apparently changed this, and I'm considering going back to them.

    We then attempted to get DSL Service through First World, since they had a "power user package" which gave us the multiple static IP addresses we wanted for our network of six computers. They put through the service order to COVAD who do most of the installations for DSL in the area. COVAD e-mailed a cancellation to us about three weeks after the installation request was put through telling us that we were too far from First World's switches. We found this puzzling since we had been wired for DSL before.

    We then got in touch with DSL Networks, which was able to contract with Covad to do the installation in about three weeks. They've been fine, but their package for the number of IP Addresses we wanted was outrageous (since they consider six computers to be a small business installation not a home installation). We've resolved this by using WinGate software and a SAMBA server on our Unix box. Since we do some web page developement we paid for the more expensive upstream connection, but for folks who are simply doing web surfing, it's probably not worth the expense.


    Tikva
    I am posting this only today, because yesterday and the day before I couldn't send any e-mail. You should read my story to understand why. I have decided to use PACBELL for my DSL provider. I have called them, and gave them my address in Kensington. It took them nine days to give me an answer whether my phone line qualifies for DSL. After receiving the answer, I have ordered the service. They scedulded me an all day appointment, 8:00AM to 5:00PM, two weeks ahead. The day has arrived, and I sat at home, waiting. On 3:00 PM the PACBELL technician called and said he is late, but he could come on 5:30PM. I agreed to wait. On 7PM he called me to say he arrives in half an hour, and on 7:30 PM he called me to say that it is too late and he can't come. He said that he can't schedule me a new appointment, and a scheduler would call me. The day after, in the afternoon, I called PACBELL, and this time they scheduled me an AM, appointment, ten days more to wait. The PACBELL technician arrived on time. Our phone line is in the storage room. The PACBELL technician asked me to take everything out of the storage room, and just stood there watching without giving me a hand while I was carrying havey stuff outside. There are two systems running on my computer, WINDOWS 98 and LINUX. On the phone I have told the DSL center that I wanted to use the Internet from both, but the PACBELL technician said she doesn't do LINUX. While she was working on the computer, I had a phone call. While I was talking over the phone, she came to tell me she is done. I wanted to use the e-mail. I have tried to send e-mail from OUTLOOK EXPRESS and from NETSCAPE messenger, but failed. I figured out that the mail has not been configured on my system, and I still need to do setup. I have called PACBELL to ask them what was my user-id, but it was after 5:00PM, so there was no one to speak with. When I called the next day, I have waited 25 minutes to speak with a tech support representative. He gave me the e-mail address, and told me there were instructions in the web site of how to configure the mail. I have tried those instructions, but they didn't work for the outlook express, only for the NETSCAPE. Since I always use the OUTLOOK, my entire address book is there and I didn't want to change my mail software. I have called PACBELL (more 25 minuets), to find out that they don't give technical support on OUTLOOK, only on NETSCAPE. And what about LINUX? No, they don't give technical support on LINUX, either. I am an experienced software engineer, and I found out myself how to configure the mail in OUTLOOK. The instructions on the PACBELL site were completely wrong. And now, that I can use my mail again, I could hardly wait to answer to the posting for DSL recommendation.
    Avoid PacBell DSL if at all possible. I had a similar experience to Yoram and Tikva Bonneh. It took two months from my initial phone call before I succeeded in getting an installer to come to my door on the appointed *day*. My installer was at least polite, but the PacBell infrastructure behind him was abominable. Departments don't talk to each other, any time you call you can expect to spend 45 minutes on hold. I've learned from other people that they're changing the terms of their contracts in midstream and denying people static IP addresses. Regarding security, I'm running a Linux server as a NAT firewall, so my other machines aren't visible to the world. There's some good data on the Net about Windows machines on the Internet 24/7, a casual search turns up this: http://www.cable-modems.org/Q&A/index.php3?one_question=17 it seems to me the biggest point in the other stuff I've read was that any shared folders should be password protected. To the person who said "I have a cable modem and because we did not have a firewall/security set up, they were able to get in," I would be very interested in hearing what the hacking was comprised of. Kevin
    I had to write concerning DSL service. I am currently using DSL through pacbell. I, also, had a very difficult initiation into the DSL system. They called and gave me a 8am-5pm window and I arranged for all of my children to be taken to school, activities, etc. while I waited around the whole day. By 7:00 they told me it was too late and that they would have to come another day. I was seeing RED. The guy finally came the following week to set it up and I did log a complaint--no reply. Anyway, I am very happy with the line but I am very close to the central area and they said that my service will be even faster than they normally guarantee because of where I live. I am not going to change because despite the initial glitches with set-up, I have been happy with my service (now that it is in.) Rona
    I have PacBell DSL which I've had since Apr. After the initial hiccups with getting the installation to work, have been very happy with the service. The setup was about $200 for the installation and hardware, and monthly is $50 which includes the ISP. E-trade was running a promotion if you opened an account with them and signed up for Pac-Bell DSL that got you three months free. Don't know if that's still available. I'm at the far end of the range up in the hills, but am generally happy with bandwidth. I do notice some times when the connection is slower then normal, but still much better then dialing in. Security issues with the static IP address mentioned in another message are true, so I just disconnect my computers when not using them. I telecommute and do a lot of work on my company network and have really noticed a huge increase in my productivity because of this. Well worth the initial frustration and $$. Ed
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