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Re: School advice for British/International kids?
I'd like to recommend my children's school, Shu Ren International School. It has many
of the characteristics you are looking for: nurturing, structured, with small classes
that offer students lots of one-on-one attention and differentiated teaching. It is
an IB candidate school so they utilize the IB structure and the curriculum and
environment are very globally-focused. It is Mandarin immersion (100% Mandarin in
Pre-K, 20% English in kindergarten, reaching 50/50 by 3rd grade) and Spanish is
introduced as a third language in 3rd grade. Students who have started with no
Mandarin work individually with teachers so they can catch up on the language, while
also being supported in the other subjects. They also have a Mandarin immersion
summer camp that can help jump start the language exposure. If your children already
have some exposure to Mandarin, it would be that much easier for them. It is a
wonderful school, both my children are very happy there and my husband and I are
thrilled by the depth of their learning and their enthusiasm for school. The teachers
and administrators are very talented and responsive, and the parent community is
fantastic.
shu ren mom
Re: Shu-Ren Vs. Pacific Rim for Middle School
My son has been at Shu Ren for four years and my daughter will be starting in the fall.
We couldn't be happier with the school. We've been consistently impressed with the
teachers, the inquiry-based curriculum, and the dedication to true Mandarin immersion.
The combination of inquiry learning and language immersion works beautifully to engage
the students in the subjects they are learning and to get them excited about it. It also
teaches the language much more in-depth than other language classes or immersion schools
I have seen. We have been very pleased with the quality of education and students'
personal development we have seen over the years at the school, and we feel very lucky to
have such a great opportunity for our children in our backyard.
Happy Shu Ren parent
Re: Mandarin-immersion elementary schools
My son attends Shu Ren. When choosing schools, we looked at all the local
Mandarin immersion programs and chose Shu Ren for three primary reasons:
small class size, the IB curriculum, and the serious dedication to
Mandarin immersion. My son was fluent in Mandarin before starting and we
have been constantly amazed by his progress since then. He is now in 2nd
grade and is writing lengthy essays, reading, and conversing fluently. I
don't believe any of the other local schools can offer the high-level of
Mandarin instruction that Shu Ren does. The small class size is key as
teachers work with each student at their individual level and students
have plenty of opportunity to engage and participate in class discussions
in Chinese. The inquiry-based curriculum teaches subjects in-depth, so the
students learn very sophisticated vocabulary and understanding of the
topics in both Mandarin and English.
This year, two new teachers (one who is also the Assistant Head of School) have been brought on board, and the level of teaching, especially in math, has risen to an impressive new level. My son has made amazing progress in math this year. He is doing fractions, decimals, division, multi-digit multiplication, and more with ease and he really enjoys it. The math now combines the best of Chinese teaching (ie drilling of key concepts and facts, like multiplication tables) and American teaching (conceptual, practical skills) and is very effective. English is also taught on a differentiated basis so students progress at their own level and are always challenged. Several students in my son's class are reading and writing a grade level or two above their age. They also have a wonderful Kodaly music program. We have not had to supplement my son's learning at all.
Socially, the small size has been wonderful for my son's social development. The teachers know each student really well and their strengths and weaknesses, and work on building community within their classrooms. While the small class size means students have more limited options for making friends, it helps build important skills as students learn to work out differences and accept differing points of view, rather than just being able to switch to another groups of friends when conflicts arise. The students in my son's class have all become very close and he has made several very good friends. The small size also allows teachers to plan regular field trips, including overnight trips, which have become a key part of the learning process. The trips have also been a lot of fun and helped the students and teachers (and parents) forge close bonds.
In short, we are so happy we chose Shu Ren. The academics have exceeded our expectations but most importantly, our son loves going to school every day and we know he is being well-cared for in a warm, nurturing environment by wonderful teachers. happy Shu Ren parent
Firstly - The inquiry based learning method is amazing and my son is thriving on all counts (especially with his awareness of the world he lives in). The children spend a lot time doing hands on learning - while being in a warm and nurturing environment. His teachers have been amazing and always accessible if I need anything (as well as the administration). His math skills in particular are really high and the teacher continually challenges him without it feeling threatening. We do not supplement his education in anyway because what he is learning is already beyond our expectations. And as far as reading in English, he is slightly ahead of the curve despite him only having 20% of his time devoted to English. The English teacher encourages children to go beyond their levels, without putting pressure on them.
Secondly - The Mandarin immersion model. I am envious of all that my son is learning. The inquiry method with the immersion model is a great marriage.
Our son comes from a non- Chinese speaking household and has done exceedingly well with his Chinese and really enjoys learning another language. We have been told by many native speakers at the school that my sons Chinese is very good and he is starting to sound more like a native. He has done well with learning how to write his characters and is working on his reading in Chinese. As far as the immersion model, our son is telling us that his Chinese homework is easier then his English homework.
As far as social skills, he is doing really well. I use to think my son was shy but now see that his social skills are very good. He is in a small class and gets a lot of attention from his teachers and the other students. He has access to kids of all grades and plays well with a multitude of ages. I also have lots of play dates at my house with the kids from school
Additionally, we were accepted into the public Chinese school for 1st grade but were so happy with Shu Ren that we declined the offer. Happy Shu Ren parent
My child is in 2nd grade. This year they get a list of 20 Chinese characters that they can practice at home. They can exchange for a new list as soon as they memorized the current list. My child went through 19 lists in the first semester. They also reads and write in Chinese in class. They get reading materials based on their level. Since we have Chinese speaking background, my daughter gets more advanced reading material. She can write in much longer paragraphs than last school year. Her handwriting has improved tremendously.
Her English is also very good. Besides the work they do at school, they also get spelling list, reading list that they do every week at home, they are all self-paced. She is at a very advanced reading level. They also write based on the topic they are learning. And their writing is very organized with a beginning, each paragraph has a central idea, and a summary ending, etc.
Math is another area that I am impressed with. They have a teacher that has taught in a language immersion school in China. In my opinion, she integrated some of the better methods they use in Chinese schools. In 2nd grade, my daughter memorizes times table, she can do multiplications with 2 digits numbers, for example 35 * 24. She can do addition and subtraction even in thousands in her head (without the help of a pen and pencil). Quite a few of her classmates is at the same math level as her. In class they break down the kids into groups based on their level, and teach them new things, and give them practices based on their level of math skills.
So overall, here is what I feel. How much we (both parents and kids) put into, is how much we get out of. And Shu Ren offers the opportunity to let them advance at their own pace, will not slow them down. With a smaller class, they get a lot more personal attention.
Of course it's not all study at school. They have a lot of fun. I have a lot to say about that, but that's not what you were asking a parent
Our experience is that the small classrooms really enable the teachers to provide differentiated teaching for different levels. My child is in second grade and learning in-depth concepts with each unit of inquiry, in English and Chinese. Additionally, he has self-paced work in Math, Chinese and English. He's comfortable with multiplication, division, and fractions. I think that he can read just about any English chapter book put in front of him. He has also been taking home packets of 20 Chinese characters each week and advancing at his own pace. Friends and family have been surprised with the level of thinking and learning that he demonstrates.
It was very difficult to get him to speak Mandarin by the time he was 3 even though it was the language of his primary care taker. He initiates Chinese conversations with Chinese family members now. We've recently texted in Chinese when he was out of town.
Socially, his classmates all know each other well and play together. I've observed that he has been able to make new friends under different circumstances, outside of the classroom. The afterschool programs also bring different kids together from the community.
The one thing that I will say is that the school has focused most of its energy and resources on the quality of its teachers and curriculum, and not as much on making itself known in the community. I hope that this would change because what an incredible opportunity if you can take advantage of it. Happy ShuRen Parent
Re: Looking for small school, flexibly paced program
Since you mentioned you are open to a bilingual program, I would like to
recommend Shu Ren International School. It fits all your criteria perfectly. My
child is in the 2nd grade there. Classes are very small (currently 14 students
with two teachers, plus additional assistants/volunteers who help out) and
learning is differentiated so students are working at very different levels
according to their own ability. Much of the day is spent in small groups (2-3
students) according to students' levels in various subjects, especially in
English reading where the class includes several different levels. The teachers
are skilled at focusing on where individual students need extra support and
finding ways to fit it in. It is bilingual Mandarin/English but the curriculum is
all integrated so they are learning the same content in both languages. The class
has students who are native Mandarin speakers, English language learners, and
those who had no prior Mandarin and are just learning, so the materials and
curriculum are designed to take different levels into account. It is a very
nurturing, supportive environment and I highly recommend it.
happy shu ren mom
Re: Preschools near a BART station
Shu Ren International school is just a short walk from the N. Berkeley Bart
stop. But more importantly is a dynamic and thriving pre-k thru 8 mandarin
immersion school right here in Berkeley! The teachers are so very wonderful,
and the days are spent not only with creative play (preK), but your child will
learn an invaluable life skill of learning Mandarin!
www.ShuRenInternationalSchool.com
We couldn't be happier!
Happy Shu Ren family
Re: Mandarin Immerson Summer camp
Hi: Regarding the Mandarin immersion camp inquiry...
This may not be in time for the current summer, but I wanted to post a
message for parents to keep in mind perhaps for next year re: summer camp
recommendations. We sent our son to Shu Ren's Mandarin Immersion camp
last summer (for many weeks) and can recommend the teachers and staff
there as great (smart, patient and hands-on). We had other plans for most
weeks this summer but I imagine that the camp is just as good as the
summer before.
Parent
Re: How is Montessori style Mandarin immersion
My children have never been in a Montessori classroom so I can't respond to that part of your question. But we did look extensively at all the Mandarin options, including the local Montessori schools, when choosing a school for my son. We chose Shu Ren for two main reasons: 1. The Mandarin immersion seemed much more intensive there than the other schools, and we had more faith that our son would become truly bilingual. And 2. we think the curriculum developed at Shu Ren (which is aiming to become an International Baccalaureate World School) is quite amazing. It teaches children to become independent and critical thinkers and compassionate human beings, even at preschool age. After three years at the school, we couldn't be happier. It is a warm, nurturing environment with a supportive and enthusiastic parent community and talented, thoughtful teachers and staff. I highly recommend it. happy shu ren mom
I believe that the school is still accepting applications and I have found the tuition to be right on par with the quality of education. If you do a cost comparison with the Montessori schools, you will find that Shu Ren would be right on target.
The general vibe at Shu Ren is is one of enthusiasm. It's a tight group of parents working together to build something great. The teachers are dedicated, enthusiastic and also very nurturing. The style of learning is focused, but is still really fun for the children. The class sizes are small which allows the teachers to give excellent individual attention and work with individual needs. Additionally, I have found the administration to be very attentive to concerns or questions that arise.
The learning style is based on a very well respected International learning method and is described as inquiry-based. While the teachers provide the structure for learning, they encourage the children to participate and help guide the process. I believe this results in well educated and confident children who learn how to navigate their world early on in life.
I would highly recommend Shu Ren, not just for preschool but also as a consideration for kindergarten and grade school. You'll find that the rates are competitive with other preschool programs, and you get the second language. Shu Ren Parent
Shu Ren is IB program which is quite different from Montessori. For my child's personality, already pretty quite, bit on the shy side, Montessori didn't offer the social interaction, and the child like play we needed. After joining Shu Ren, I can tell the difference in my child's behavior within couple months.
The teachers are great, and my child is very happy. So far I am very happy with Shu Ren, both from my child's academic growth and social skills. Happy Parent
Re: Mandarin Immersion Elementary Schools?
There is currently really only one true Mandarin immersion elementary
school in the East Bay: Shu Ren International School. Of the elementary
schools with Mandarin offered, it's the only one that uses Mandarin as
the main language for teaching most subjects. Last week's newsletter
posted several reviews of the school so I don't want to repeat, but the
main things we like about it are: small class size and the chance for
individualized teaching; full Mandarin immersion taught by talented
native speakers; a very strong English program so I never worry my son
is behind kids in ''regular'' schools; and the IB curriculum framework.
It's a wonderful school and I highly recommend it.
mom of shu ren elementary student
Re: Preschools friendly for kids with nut allergies
My sons' school, Shu Ren international School in Berkeley, is 100% nut free and
has a great preschool. It is taught all in Mandarin and is theme-based
learning, following the IB curriculum. My children come home with tons of
artworks and are very happy there. You should go check them out. They are
located at 1333 University Avenue. They will also be at the preschool fair
this weekend in Oakland.
Happy Shuren Parent
I have seriously been considering Shu Ren International School for my preschooler based on their preK 100% Mandarin immersion model and the few tours that I have gone to. I like their passion for education and dedication(from what I've seen) to their students and the Inquiry Based Model of Education. I would like to get some feed back from parents that are attending Shu Ren currently. I think that equipping my child with Mandarin is going to be advantageous and just want to hear what other families like about Shu Ren. thanks! anon
The school has far exceeded our expectations on a number of levels. The class size is small and my son gets lots of individualized attention. His kindergarten teacher is amazing and has helped my son feel very comfortable and excel in his learning process. Our son is a little shy, and his teacher has really nurtured him and encouraged him with his Chinese. He is doing so well, that he is now teaching his mother Chinese! The inquiry-based method they use for teaching is excellent. As a matter of fact, the school is striving for accreditation with a very well known International education method and currently uses their system to define the curriculum. We can already see how it has encouraged our son to be an independent thinker and look at the world from a more global view, even at 5!.
Additionally, our son attends the aftercare program for one hour, three times a week. During this time, he is able to work with another great teacher, who assists him with his Chinese homework. Something my wife and are not able to do. The Aftercare teacher is great about helping him with his homework first, with lots of play afterwards. Overall, we have had no issues with the fact that we are unable to help our son with his Chinese homework.
The founder and head of the school, Jie Moore, has done an excellent job of providing a learning environment that is attentive to the emotional well being of the kids while still providing academic excellence. She is attentive to the issues that arise and is truly dedicated to providing the best education for all of the students.
Overall I would rate Shu Ren an A+ and highly recommend this school.
I like Shu Ren not just because of the Mandarin and Chinese culture aspect of the education, I also like it because: 1. She gets a lot more personal attention from the teachers. Teachers are very kind. She was very timid at the previous school, but now is much happier and more confident. 2. Besides the recess playground time, they offer PE classes, and Music classes. She was very happy to do yoga, zumba, sing and dance. 3. Shu Ren not just focus on Chinese culture, they also teaches cultures, histories about other regions. So overall, I am very happy with the school, so is my child. Happy Parent
In addition, I wanted a nurturing environment, with at small student to teacher ratio, as well as a focus on the whole education, not just on the Mandarin. I found that Shuren is the only one providing a true immersion education. You can find more information on their website about the definition of immersion. (www.shureninternationalschool.com)
Moreover, I am very impressed that they have found such qualified teachers. The bios on their website provide some insight into their skills. In addition, they've been extremely open to communication with parents. Finally, the principal and founder is following the International Baccalaureate model, and plans apply for candidacy. It seems to be the model of the future, as most of the top US high schools are IB schools. There is also a lot of focus on enrichment programs. Currently, the students have Kodaly music classes as part of their regular curriculum. It is a growing school and has been open 2 years. I felt comfortable with the school's philosophy and the founder's passions in executing her vision. At the end of the day, I am confident having entrusted my child to them.. Shuren Parent b
Re: Chinese Immersion for Chinese/African American child
If you are in the East Bay, there is a fantastic Chinese immersion preschool right
here in Berkeley, Shu Ren International School. The Pre-K is taught in 100%
Mandarin, and the student body is very diverse. Their website is:
http://shureninternationalschool.com. They will host an open house in
mid-November.
shu ren parent
As the parents of a former student at Shu Ren, we feel obliged, as a service to parents searching for a preschool, to retell our experiences, as they were not positive.
After our interview and initial visits, we were incredibly high on Shu Ren. We liked the layout of the school and the seeming professionalism and commitment of all there. We were indifferent to the IB program they're intent on running, but we figured that, for a preschool, the Mandarin immersion would be perfect. When we arrived in the fall, however, cracks in that image began to appear. We were sold on a small class (around 8 students) of one age group with a high degree of supervision. What we found in the fall was a class of 24 students ranging from 2.5 to 5 years old packed into the same room that previously housed 8. We were told that extra staff would be brought in to deal with the influx, and they were, but the calm environment we'd seen the year before was never to be had. In our estimation, the teachers were overwhelmed by this large a group of students and virtually everything that one would expect from a school suffered because of it.
The kind of attention to one's child that one would expect from a small class environment was non-existent. Teachers were too busy trying to manage crises to guide and develop each child to the fullest of their potential. On top of that, the level of communication between teachers and parents left much to be desired. When incidents happened, we were either told about them in only the most cursory way, or weren't told about them at all until weeks or months later. As if that wasn't bad enough, knowing the kind of stresses this many children was placing on the teachers and the students, the management of Shu Ren continued to take in yet more students as the year went on.
In sum, we regret being swayed by the surface attractiviness of Shu Ren (and this includes the Mandarin immersion aspect) and not paying closer attention to what truly mattered to our child: a calm and nurturing environment. Concerned
The sudden growth period is now over for the school, and we expect that from here on out the talented administration will be able to focus on continuing to develop and grow the school in a healthy and consistent way. My son is now finishing his Kindergarten year at Shu Ren, and my husband and I have been truly impressed by the staff's dedication to language immersion, which cannot be matched by any other local school. Even more important that that, however, is the energy, enthusiasm, intelligence, and creativity we have seen consistently from all the staff and teachers. In contrast to the previous reviewer, we have found Shu Ren to provide, above all, a very calm and nurturing environment, which is in fact the most important reason we chose the school. Happy Shu Ren parent
Re: Need great preschool three days a week 7:30-5:00
My son currently goes to Shu Ren International School's Preschool program.
It is a play-based, theme-oriented program all taught in Mandarin. Even the
kids without any Chinese re-inforcement at home are now speaking
Mandarin. My son has loved going to school since he started there over a
year ago and he will be in their kindergarten class next year. My second son
will be in the pre-K program next year too. They are currently located in
Berkeley on University, but this fall will be moving to South Berkeley/ North
Oakland area. Their schedule runs from 8:30am to 3pm, but they have free
care from 7:30-8:30am and they have extended care to 6pm. If you are
interested, just give them a call to schedule a tour so you can see for yourself
what a great school this is.
Their website is www.shureninternationalschool.com.
And their number is (510) 981-0320.
Good luck in your search. I remember how hard it is.
Christine, Shu Ren Mom
Re: Mandarin summer mini-camps for 5 year old
Shu Ren International School in Berkeley offers a Mandarin
summer camp in two-week sessions throughout the summer. Our
son is in school there and attended the camp last summer and
had a lot of fun. The teachers are great and the kids learn
a lot of Chinese. Registration forms are available now at:
http://www.shureninternationalschool.com/programs/summer-camp/
shu ren mom
Re: Mandarin Bilingual from K on - which one?
Our son is in Kindergarten at Shu Ren and we love it. It's a
warm, nurturing environment with talented and enthusiastic
teachers and staff. Our son spoke Chinese before going but most
of the children had had little or no exposure before this year,
and they are all reading, writing and speaking Chinese already,
after just two months. The teacher has done a great job of
creating a community feeling among the students, and our son is
excited to go to school every day. The workload is intensive but
must be in order for them to learn such a difficult language, and
my son enjoys the work, loves doing his homework, and they are
learning a lot. They also spend a lot of time on art projects,
music, and free play outdoors. Because it is 100% Mandarin in
Kindergarten, except for an hour a day of English, the children
really benefit from an immersion environment. The staff and
administrators are very dedicated and smart, enrollment is very
stable now, and I'm trusting that the school is here to stay. The
school is hosting open houses and tours this month, check out
their website for more details: http://shureninternationalschool.com/
Shu Ren mom
Re: Mandarin Bilingual from K on - which one?
I usually don't take time out to write letters of recommendation,
but I feel strongly enough about a recent poster's inquiry into a
good Mandarin bilingual school to reply: In my opinion, Shu Ren
International School in Berkeley is the only place to go!!!
I have a long-standing interest in foreign languages, linguistics and bilingual education. When considering the right school for our only child, my husband and I looked at a broad swath of highly recommended schools in the Bay Area. We visited both Spanish and Mandarin language immersion schools; and we even spent a couple of preschool years at a Spanish-English bilingual language school. A number of the other schools we looked at were quite good, but we can state unequivocally that Shu Ren is the absolute best we've seen. I was a little hesitant before starting the year: although I speak three languages fluently, neither my husband nor I have any knowledge of Mandarin (with two busy careers and no nanny, we weren't anticipating a lot of extra time to devote to learning the language). But our Kindergartner is thriving in a warm, loving environment filled with rich learning experiences (academically and socially), a broad-based educational framework, and strong, creative and professional teachers and administrators -- We couldn't be happier and we are so grateful that we found Shu Ren.
Please google it to make sure but in case it's handy, I think their number is 510-981-0291. Best wishes, Happy Parent of a 5-yr Old
Re: Mandarin Bilingual from K on - which one?
Shuren is the only mandarin-immersion school in the Bay Area that strives to follow the International Baccalaureate
Program, an internationally recognized academic program that will help the children become self-inquirers and develop a
passion for life-long learning. To that end, Shuren has hired teachers that share this vision and have taught their
initial classes of pre-K through 2nd grade kids how to nurture this desire to learn. My son has been going to Shuren
since this January as a pre-K student and has truly loved going there. His mandarin improved dramatically within weeks of
starting and we truly want to see Shuren succeed in its endeavors to become a K-8 school. Please go visit the school for
yourself so you can see what the kindergarten teacher has taught the children. I believe they are still doing tours on
Wednesday mornings, but please call the school to check. Their website is www.shureninternationalschool.com. Their number
is: (510) 981-0320. Good luck in your decision-making.
Mom of a Shuren Child
Hi -- I'm looking for feedback on Shu Ren's preschool and/or after school program, particularly from parents whose children did not already speak Mandarin upon entering the school. Did your child learn Mandarin within the first year? Are the teacher(s) nurturing and loving? I want my child to learn Mandarin, but I don't want to sacrifice the wonderful, caring environment he currently is in. Thanks! Global Mom
Re: Bilingual/Immersion Preschool that teaches Chinese
I don't know about Starlite, but I can strongly recommend Shu Ren
International School, a new Chinese immersion school in Berkeley.
My son is in the pre-school (pre-k) there and we have been
extremely happy with the teachers, his language development, and
the community that is being built up around the school. The pre-k
classes are 100% Mandarin; English will be gradually introduced
in Kindergarten and higher grades. The teachers are warm,
knowledgeable and creative, and it's been a very stimulating and
loving environment for our son. Teachers communicate very well
with parents and even keep blogs where they update parents every
week on what the kids do in the classroom and post photos. Their
website is http://shureninternationalschool.com/ and phone number
is: (510) 981-0320. I recommend you check it out.
shu ren parent
We are asking parents' input on Shu Ren International School. We visited the school with our 4-year-old daughter and really liked their environment. But since it's new, we would like to hear from Shu Ren's parents about the teachers and the kind of progress their children are making. We are hoping this would help with our decision making. looking for info
The curriculum is based on the International Baccalaureate Primary Years Program, which is centered around themes, and so all the day's activities are interconnected and relate to the particular theme they are working on (right now the theme is My Body and so they learn songs, do art projects, read stories, play games, etc about various parts of their bodies.) The day is quite structured (compared to play-based pre-schools) but they seem to have plenty of time for free play and to play outside. But the best part is the Chinese immersion. Even though my son was fluent in Chinese before entering Shu Ren, he was always more comfortable speaking English in new situations, but his Chinese has really taken off since he's been there. The teachers are warm, thoughtful and making a good effort to create an active and dynamic environment, even with just a few students. They also are great at communicating with parents. Our son's teacher writes up a summary of what they did in the classroom each week and posts it on a blog with photos for parents to see. I've also heard great things about the kindergarten/1st grade teacher.
The one downside is that enrollment is low (there are currently six students in the pre-k class, some of whom are part-time), but that is changing as new students have been enrolling almost every week. I highly recommend Shu Ren to anyone who wants their child to learn Mandarin, or just wants a small, warm, creative environment. shu ren mom
He absolutely adores his teacher and comes home singing songs everyday. In fact, he likes the songs so much that he sings to himself while we're in the car or running errands. I have no doubt that he will soon be completely fluent in the language.
Our kindergarten teacher, Kai Yao is amazing and just a natural at teaching. She laughs a lot with the children and seems to enjoy their company as much as they enjoy her's. We are delighted and grateful to have such a supportive and engaging learning environment for our child. Shu Ren Parent
Re: Chinese school in Albany?
There is a new Chinese immersion school in
Berkeley, Shu Ren International School, which also has after school
Chinese classes that are open to the community. Our son is
currently a student there and it is a great school with wonderful
teachers and a friendly, warm atmosphere. They are having an open
house next Wednesday, October 29. Their website is:
http://shureninternationalschool.com/ and phone number is (510)
981-0320. The address is 1333 University Avenue, Berkeley.
Shu Ren parent
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