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Feb 2014

Re: Chinese Pre Schools in the East Bay
We were in the same exploration about a year ago, and actually came across GMIS in an old BPN post as it had not come up in our original research. We are so glad that we chose to look again. GMIS is a warm and nurturing environment that has been a great choice for our (now) 3 year old's first preschool experience as well as a great entry for us as parents new to the school environment as well.

The school's senior administrator is someone with years of experience in running schools that genuinely cares about the well-being of everyone in the environment - the staff, the teachers, the students and the parents. She has made herself available to us every step of the way and knows all the parents and students by name. She also has made the parent community an integral part of the experience without overwhelming or overburdening us as parents.

Our daughter has thrived in the Montessori environment. We did not have a preference for Montessori in our search, but it has worked quite well for our daughter's temperament - inquisitive and vibrant, yet somewhat independent and introspective. The facility is bright and very well maintained, in fact, they just recently had a cleaning crew come in to help combat the heavy flu/cold season we are in (speaks fondly to my OCD tendencies about cleanliness and germs). Our daughter started in the younger children's classroom where they helped with the potty training (most of the schools we looked at didn't offer this). The teacher/student ratio was 1 to 6 in that classroom which we were very pleased with.

There are a number of enrichment programs offered with the cost being relatively affordable IMO. The parent organization is quite active with numerous fundraisers and activities and we're very pleased with how much Chinese our daughter has learned in such a short time. The parent communication is consistent and thorough - there is a weekly newsletter that is sent and simple methods for parents to communicate with the school and with one another as well. The only complaint we have would be the parking. Since GMIS is in a busy location, it often can get quite busy during the key pick-up and drop-off times. Just takes a little patience.

With all that said, it also came down to the feeling we got when we met with the administrator and visited the school. We looked at all of the schools you mentioned, and it was between Shu Ren and GMIS for us, but in the end, we just had a better 'gut' feeling with GMIS for our daughter and for us (Shu Ren felt too 'academic' and we weren't looking for that in a preschool, perhaps down the road).

Hope that helps. Extremely happy GMIS parent

We are a current family at GMIS this year (2013-2014). GMIS was at Bancroft and they have since moved to 9th Street in Berkeley. Initially, they were a gem that combined Traditional Chinese education with a Montessori program. Back at Bancroft, they had a warm and loving staff of teachers for their Primary classrooms and offered an elementary program that was custom and superb, headed up by one of the best Montessori ELE teachers. These are the reasons we chose to migrate with them to the new campus last year.

Unfortunately for us, the ''Honeymoon Phase'' was short lived. Upon moving, there were a number of issues that came from poor planning and exceptionally poor school communication. The start of school was pushed back time and again due to unrealistic construction timelines. This resulted in a lot of chaos and confusion as we all waited, holding our breath to see if we could send our kids to school that week. Once school finally opened, the construction continued, resulting in a massive effort to do parent fundraising to purchase HEPA filters for the whole school to manage the dust and debris. After getting the filters in, we later found out that they were rarely turned on and that most were stored in closets and not seen at all. Last year, the saving grace was both the extremely strong Parent Community and the kind hearted teachers. Between the two, the year rounded off nicely despite its rough beginning.

But now it's getting worse. The main school administrator left last year after 5 years and the school never replaced her. Instead, a chain of random parent ''helpers'' have been rotated in and out of the front office, making poor communication even more difficult, with no one taking ownership of the position, no training, and adding to parent confusion as to what's happening at school. The ratio in the primary classrooms has bumped up from 1:6 to now 1:12, overworking the teachers. To make matters worse, they have started to use parent subs to staff the classrooms, instead of certified Montessori teachers. Why are we paying for a private Montessori education?

The teacher turnover is extremely high. They are overworked, underpaid, understaffed, and over enrolled. Normal transition periods are ignored as classrooms become packed. There is a small lawn and garden, but it's only a fraction of the size they had before. No play structure (one may be coming soon), minimal blocks and hula hoops, and that's about it. I can't imagine an elementary family being ok with this lack of play space for the bigger kids. Speaking of elementary program, we've been told they are cancelling the elementary as of next year. So, look elsewhere for a longer term school if you want to continue on past Kindergarten. It's just really sad...great parents and wonderful teachers (what's left of them that is...) just don't mix well with bad business management and communication. We wish them the best, but sadly, they are just not what they use to be.

Looking Elsewhere...

I am one of the parents at GMIS.

Ratio: when we first applied, we were told it was 1:8, however, lately this is no longer the case. It is 1:12. Although we were not too happy about that, because one, we were not being informed with this change, two, this was not what we signed up for, but at least our kid's classroom is still running fine.

Teacher quality: we believe all the teachers at GMIS are very warm and nice. We have nothing but good things to say about our classroom's teachers. They work really hard and the kids love them. However, it seems there are an increasing amount of what we term ''nannies'' instead of teachers being introduced to the classrooms. We are uncertain of their qualifications or teaching methods (def. not montessori trained).

Chinese Program: Our kid's Chinese level has been thriving thanks to Xiang Lao Shi. Having her as the head teacher of the classroom helps tremendously.

Teacher turnover rate/well being: Turnover is pretty high. The workload is enormous. The Chinese teachers especially are taking on a lot of extra duties around the school, and it seems like they have a hard time taking time off even when they are sick, which is very unfortunate.

School Communications: It has been one of the weakest parts of this school as long as we've been here. Some active parents were helping out at the beginning of this school year since the admission director left last June, however, the position has remained unfilled. Part-timers are performing limited daily operational duties, and communication with parents is minimal. Things feel very reactive to us. We have only seen improvements when we've complained, and even then, it's been temporary.

Parents Organization: One of the reasons we feel fortunate to join the school before was because of the strong parent community. The majority of the parents are very nice and work very hard to continue to support the school, but the school isn't working with the parents organization as closely this year. There's clearly some disconnect between the two.

Academic Performance: We can only review our own child, and we have been very pleased with the progress and things we see thanks to the classroom teachers.

Enrichment Programs: They have Art, Kung-Fu and Chinese. Last year Fall, they had Viva El Espanol came, which was excellent, but we didn't know what had happened, they are not offering that now.

School Ground: Small but sufficient for small kids. Some climbing structures will be helpful to develop motor skills.

Maintenance and hygiene: They only have one part time handyman who fixes things around the school as well as cleaning the school. We used to have cleaning crews coming in at the beginning of last school year, but we don't notice any ever since.

Elementary Programs: It's sad that they will not be offering this program after this semester, but that might be for the better.

Unfortunately, we decided not be continue our kid with GMIS next year and applying elsewhere. Mr. C

July 2013

I am leaving a review for a fantastic Mandarin immersion Montessori school in Berkeley named Global Montessori International School (GMIS). This review is completely unsolicited, and I have the freedom of being honest and objective because my child is moving on to another school. My child started at GMIS at the age of 2. I chose GMIS over the other Mandarin immersion programs in the area because of the following reasons: 1) the teachers were experienced, youthful, energetic, loving and kind; 2) the founder of the school, Vivi Teng, is a warm-hearted, honest person with extensive Montessori experience and devotes herself full-time to managing every aspect of the school; 3) a great parent community of highly educated but down-to-earth parents who are very involved and very tuned into the development of young children and their needs; 4) an ethnically diverse student population with over half of the children coming from multiple ethnic backgrounds. I visited and toured all the other schools in the area (PRINTS, AIM, Shu-ren) and came to the conclusion that the biggest hearts were at GMIS and that my toddler would be cared after the way I would expect a large family of kind aunties would provide. After having been at the school for 2 and a half years, my child has been able to recognize many Chinese characters (I would guess at least 50), knows bo-po-mo-fo symbols and is able to use them to read early reader books from Taiwan, is able to converse in Mandarin with proper tone, and is also progressing well in English reading and acquisition of math concepts. Potty training was done by the teachers within 1 year of enrollment and made my life so much easier. Extracurricular activities have included Soccer Shots, Kung-fu, Chinese and Western singing and music, beginning Spanish, and afterschool Chinese class. Other class options include art and dance. He has been exposed to gardening, animal care, trips to the Berkeley Nutcracker and Chabot Science Center. There is a wonderful outdoor garden area with a vermicompost earthworm bin to teach children about the soil lifecycle. The outdoor playspace is clean and has a variety of outdoor toys. In the summer, water play is also available. I have made many friends among the parent group and contributed to the development of the Parent Organization which provides parents with an organized website for information and helps to orchestrate the myriad of volunteer, holiday and cultural events that occur each year. The school's preschool through kindergarten is growing by leaps and bounds. The elementary school is still in development and currently enrolls through second grade. My son will miss GMIS very much and after 2.5 years, I am still certain that I made the right decision for him. I have not seen as many happy kids elsewhere as I have at GMIS, and as many kind teachers. Whether your interest is Montessori, Mandarin, a diverse and global environment for your child, GMIS will fulfill all of the above and more than prepare your child for Yu Ming or any of the other Mandarin immersion programs in SF. Many of the kids who go to Yu Ming from GMIS are quite over-prepared and already know most of the Mandarin and early math covered in public school kindergarten. All in all, a wonderful preschool and kindergarten and you can't go wrong. I expect that with continued development the elementary school will be wonderful, too. Vivian

Jan 2013

Re: Reviews on GMIS and AIMS for a 3 yr old
I don't have any experience with AIM, but my two kids have been at GMIS for the last 2 and a half years. My older one started at 3 1/2 in the children's house until he went to Kindergarten this past fall (a little over 2 years there). My younger one started in the young children's house classroom right after turning 2 last fall, and is currently in the children's house classroom (3-6 yos).

We have been extremely happy with GMIS! We feel really fortunate to have this really fantastic, nurturing, rich, bilingual preschool experience for our kids. The teachers are really wonderful. For the preschool teachers, one English teacher has been there since the school opened I believe, the other has been there for at least two years and is also a parent. For the chinese teachers, two have been there since the school started I think (or for at least since we've been there), 2 have been there for 2 years, and one is new (came in the summer this year). I can't think of one negative experience we've had with any of the teachers, and my kids have been with all of them at some point. The director, Vivi, has a really great vision of the educational experience she wants to provide, and would not hire someone she didn't think was a great teacher. We talk with the teachers regularly, and they always know exactly what is going on with my child. They spend the time to get down at their level and meet them where they are, and you see can see a relationship of mutual respect. We have a really wonderful community at GMIS and the teachers are a big part of that.

We are very happy with the academic side of things as well. The materials in the classrooms are well developed and diverse, and the children do music, dance, and soccer during the school week. My older son was more than prepared for kindergarten (starting to do carryover addition and subtraction, beginning reading in chinese and english, writing dozens of characters and english words). We do not speak Mandarin at home, and we are often told how impressed people are with his Mandarin ability, both reading/writing and speaking. This was not a detriment to his English read/writing either. He was allowed to progress at his own pace, since the work is self-determined, and we were very happy with his progress. My younger son is almost 3 1/2 now, and he's doing Zhuyin as well as recognizing and tracing many beginning characters. He's doing a lot of math work too, many things that my kindergartener's class wont get to until the end kindergarten at his public school. I could go on and on, but overall we think it's a wonderful school and my older son was very sad to leave when he graduated and went to public kindergarten. Enthusiastic GMIS parent

March 2012

An update on the new location for GMIS: The school will be relocating to a new address in Berkeley across the street from Ecole Bilingue and near one of the Berkeley Bowl groceries. The move will take place over the summer and be ready to start in September! I encourage all interested parents to look at GMIS and consider enrolling. Vivian

Dec 2011

I am thinking about sending my daughter to GMIS (Global Montessori International School) next year but heard that the school may be forced to move/leave the location where they are at today. Does anyone have any information on this? Would love to hear from current GMIS parents. Thanks! Julie

The relocation of GMIS is a possibility. We may be able to stay in our current location, however, in the event that we have to move, we are searching for possible locations. We understand that uncertainty may cause some concern, but GMIS intends to continue operations even if we have to move to another location. Thank you. GMIS
July 2011

Re: Seeking excellent Pre K program with 2011 openings
My son has been enrolled in Global Montessori International School in Berkeley since the age of two and we love it! Small class size, wonderfully kind and attentive teachers and staff, and immersion education of children in Mandarin are what make this program special. They provide potty training as well. The kids have dual exposure to english and mandarin at the upper levels. Extracurricular activities include gardening, cooking, art under the guidance of MOCA, Soccer shots, field trips to various museums, visiting musicians, and education on various topics ranging from dental hygiene to Asian cultures. The kids achieve a very high level of proficiency in math at a early age. Because they are learning both languages at such an early age, both come naturally and pronunciation seems to be quite clear for each respective language without accents or crossovers. The kids just seem to know to speak Mandarin to the Chinese speakers and English to the English speakers. If you really want your child to fully develop both sides of his or her brain in an attentive, loving environment, this is the place for you. Over half of the kids enrolled come from backgrounds with no Mandarin, so no need to worry if you're a non-speaker like me :)I Vivian

May 2011

Re: Mandarin afterschool programs in the East Bay
I would recommend the after-school Mandarin program at Global Montessori International School ( Classes meet from 3:30pm to 4:45pm on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday each week. I'm continually impressed by the Chinese-language artwork and written worksheets that my 3-year-old brings home from these classes. - GMIS parent

April 2011

Re: How is Montessori style Mandarin immersion

We investigated PRINTS, Shu Ren, and GMIS before deciding to send our child to GMIS for preschool. (We chose not to explore AIM because we were concerned that having Japanese, Chinese, and English combined together in the early stages would dilute the language experience. We felt this was a slight disadvantage of PRINTS as well.)

The way I would characterize the Montessori philosophy is that it is very dedicated toward encouraging the child's self-reliance at a developmentally appropriate level. Montessori-educated children are known for learning how to take care of themselves at a basic level at a very young age (even before 3 yrs), doing things such as dressing themselves, helping to clean up after a spill, and preparing and sharing food with others. Another life skill which I think is even more important in the long term is becoming self-directed in choosing what to pursue and following through on their interests. Montessori kids are expected to choose their own pursuits, rather than constantly waiting to be told what to do next. Whereas traditional kindergarten in the U.S. may often have kids bouncing from one activity to the next after only 15-30 minutes, the Montessori approach will allow kids to pursue an activity for an hour or longer if they desire, enabling them to develop a longer attention span.

One possible concern about this is that in a Montessori school, children may miss out on the opportunity to explore new activities that don't initially appeal to them. I always ask Montessori educators about this on interviews, and I continue to inquire about this frequently as my child grows. At GMIS, the teachers monitor the kids' activities to make sure that they're not missing out on something important, which I can see from the periodic "report cards" that they send home containing evaluations along multiple dimensions expected for children at a particular age. They will check for gaps in what a child has been exploring and present a new activity or lesson to a particular child when s/he is ready.

Another possible related concern is that children may spend more time in individual rather than group social settings, if the nature of the education is primarily self-directed. GMIS adopts a flexible approach and includes group circle time several times throughout the day, in addition to providing multiple opportunities for unstructured indoor and outdoor play with classmates across age groups. Small groups often spontaneously emerge during class, because children are curious about what other children are doing or because a teacher is giving a mini-lesson. In fact, the Montessori philosophy is considerably less age-stratified and rigid compared to traditional U.S. educational settings, encouraging cross-age interaction so that older kids actively help younger kids learn. We see this as a tremendous benefit to supporting positive social development.

As you note, what's important is how a school implements the Montessori philosophy, since there is a lot of variability here. One difference is that the American Montessori Society (AMS) approach is less rigid than the Association Montessori Internationale (AMI) approach, in that AMS-certified teachers will use outside materials and resources to supplement traditional Montessori materials. Most of the GMIS staff are AMS certified, while a couple are AMI certified; I don't know the credentials of AIM or PRINTS teachers. Another difference is in the administrators' and teachers' application of the Montessori philosophy; some are stricter than others. From my observations of GMIS, I feel the school provides a very warm and nurturing environment, responding flexibly to the children's needs and including ample time for unstructured, imaginative play. At the time that I observed PRINTS, I felt it was more rigid and less nurturing. This is something that you will want to look for yourself in all the schools that you visit because it can be so subjective and depend very much on the individual.

One final point I wanted to mention is the truly exceptional qualities of GMIS Director Vivi Teng. She is a passionate and dedicated educator with many years of experience in early childhood and elementary education. In addition to working well with the children, she demonstrates a genuine interest in understanding the parents' particular needs, going out of her way to address their concerns. She has also assembled a fantastic team of teachers and works with them closely to support their development and ensure that the children receive the best education for their needs. All of the Chinese-language teachers are native Mandarin speakers, in addition to their training and experience with early childhood education.

In summary, we are delighted with GMIS because of its excellent Mandarin-language education, its thoughtful implementation of the best parts of the Montessori educational philosophy, the excellent teaching and administrative staff, and the dedicated parent community. - Very happy GMIS parent

Feb 2011

Re: Mandarin Immersion Elementary Schools?
My son attends the Elementary program at Global Montessori International School in Berkeley. He enjoyed the warm environment, opened up his shy personality, and made good friends. We like the supportive parent community and receptive school teachers and administrators. I find my son becoming more confident, responsible, thoughtful and inquisitive, since joining the elementary group. The English part of the Montessori program led by the head teacher Ms Nugapitiya is great. In a little over 5 months he went from not able to read by himself to a beginner reader of chapter books, and teaching me stuff he learned from school, e.g. leaning tower of Pisa. I doubt the Chinese part was taught strictly using the traditional Montessori material, as I have seen a 5th grader used the recording feature on IPhone to practice tone pronunciations for a tongue twister. I really like the innovative media introduced by the Chinese teacher Ms Ma, which made it more relevant to the kids and more engaging. The children are naturally more proficient in English and often speak that among the peers so the teachers had introduced show and tell in Chinese, word games... I find it a good mix between Montessori philosophy of C,follow the childC. and willingness to engage kids using effective methods. To me the learning skills and the excitements toward the language and cultures achieved have been invaluable. happy mom

hi, We have our son at Global Montessori International School and it's awesome! Although it used to be Japanese, Chinese, and English, it is now officially a Mandarin and English immersion school. However, there are some children in the elementary program who were in the Japanese immersion track so to be sensitive to those families, GMIS retains the resources for their Japanese-language education. That is a big part of what makes GMIS so special. it really is a place that values the needs of the children and parents and truly listens.

Another reason GMIS is so special is the culture. It is a warm, loving, kind place for the kids that also focuses on their education and making sure they learn. The kids love going to school and you can see what they are learning. And, they all do speak Chinese during the day, to the other kids as well, even those who don't have Mandarin spoken to them at home (like my son).

Additionally, this school is going places and will make a name for itself. Vivi has a tremendous amount of energy and she always has her eye to how to make the program stronger and reaching out to the community to bring resources and relationships to the school. Not only did they improve the art and music education this year (MOCHA comes to the school) she is reaching out to other schools in the area to create relationships for those graduating.

And lastly, but not least, the parent community is strong. there is a lot of parental involvement, which is great for the kids as well as the school.

GMIS was a wonderful decision for us as a family and we couldn't be happier. I hope you find your way to GMIS as well. A Happy Parent

Dec 2009

Re: American Int'l Montessori and Global Montessori
This is the second year our child attends Global Montessori International School (GMIS), and we are extremely happy with how the school has become especially over the past 6 months. After the school made the change from trilingual (Chinese, Japanese, and English) to the current bilingual (Chinese and English) environment for the two lower classes (Young Children's House for less than 3, and Children's House for 3 to 6 yr. old), the level of Chinese learning among the students have improved dramatically. Since our child was fluent in Chinese to begin with, we were somewhat unsure about whether the Chinese curriculum was going to be challenging enough, but we are definitely not disappointed by the outcome (if not expectation exceeded) so far. The new curriculum director (who's terrific) for the CH has integrated arts, music and other subjects into the language program, and we are still constantly amazed by how much math the kids there are learning by age 5...The staff has created a caring/nurturing environment, and the parents are a group of great individuals. The school is by no means perfect, but given it's only the second year in operation, we think it's on a solid footing already. We have considered all the alternative Chinese immersion schools in the area, and we are very happy with our decision. Happy GMIS Parents

As parent of 4.5 year-old twins who are thriving at Global Montessori (or "GMIS"), I can not say enough about the school. GMIS has taken the best fundamental Montessori philosophies and spiced it up with a lot of warmth and creativity to makes it more nurturing and suitable for Chinese bi-lingual education. Our family started at PRINTS when our kids where just 2 years old. There were no other options for Chinese bi-lingual back then. In fall of 2008, we followed Mahr Sen-sai when he moved to GMIS as it opened; but we stayed at GMIS when he left to open American Int'l Montessori (or "AIM"). I have the greatest of respect for Mahr Sen-sai's approach to teaching. However, we stayed for 2 key reasons. First, GMIS became 100% focused on Chinese bi-lingual with effectively 70% immersion in children's house instead of Japanese & Chinese. Second, we felt that under Director Vivi Teng, the school would be a more nurturing & creative Montessori. St. Mary's College chose to continue it's support of the school as well and uses it as a training center for Montessori accreditation. While GMIS is still evolving, our family is very pleased with it's process and future direction. Our kids often cried when we took them to PRINTS. Now they miss school when we are away. More importantly, I see their dramatic progress in Chinese (verbal and written) along with their passion for music, math and English. I believe the school will only get better over time. Good luck with your decision. Feel free to email me if you have additional questions. jinee
I have children at Global Montessori International School (GMIS) since it opened a year ago. The strength of the school has been the Director Vivi Teng. She is from a family of educators in Taiwan and has a clear passion for teaching. She is especially dedicated to bi-lingual education and finding the best materials to teach Mandarin. She and the teachers set the tone of warmth, care, and fun for the children. The teachers are gentle and patient with the children. The teachers have art and music backgrounds, which are incorporated in creative ways into the English and Mandarin curriculum. My children have really enjoyed this aspect of learning. There is no Mandarin spoken in our house, but my kids are picking up Mandarin at a rapid pace due to the effectiveness of the Mandarin immersion portion of the curriculum. The Montessori piece is evident when I see the children 3-6 (and Elementary Children) all working together, independently (without prompting), engaged in preparing the food, setting up the class for Thanksgiving Feast, and cleaning up. It is quite amazing that at such a young age they can be empowered to make meaningful contributions to those around them. I have been impressed with the work of all the teachers at GMIS. anon
I have two active and sensitive boys (3 and 5) at Global Montessori International School (GMIS). My 5 year old started at PRINTS when he was 3 and we moved to GMIS for two main reasons: my faith in Ernie Mahr's expertise in montessori education and Vivi Teng's (GMIS director) warmth and passion for education. What I felt was lacking at PRINTS (warmth and flexibility), I found at GMIS. Even though I think Ernie is a very talented educator, I decided to stay at GMIS because Mandarin was more important to me than a strict montessori curriculum. Having the school (Vivi) and curriculum (Lena Lee) directors who are not only fluent but native Mandarin speakers, in my opinion, is important as well. They have worked hard to put together a very strong curriculum. During this past summer, while my oldest son did various summer camps, my youngest son (2 turning 3 at the time) stayed at GMIS and I noticed a dramatic progress in his verbal Chinese. In 2.5 months, he went from speaking some Mandarin words to carrying a short conversation in Mandarin. I think the fact that GMIS went from trilingual (Japanese, Mandarin and English) to bilingual (Mandarin and English) really helped my kids focus and acquire more Mandarin. The new integration of art, music and P.E. curriculum really creates a more multi-disciplinary approach yielding an in-depth and rich learning experience for the students. Lena is also Orff and Music Together certified. There aren't any academic pressure that I am aware of, the focus is more on supporting the progress and needs of each child. The intimate setting at GMIS also foster deeper relationships and there is very strong sense of community; with very dedicated and friendly families. I think it is an extremely hard process finding the right fit for your child and your educational goals for them. Good luck in your search and please feel free to write me if you have any questions. Chi
We have a 4.5 year old boy and a 3.0 year old girl at GMIS. We, and most importantly, our two kids LOVE the school. They love the teachers and really seem to enjoy everything they do at school. Our son started at PRINTS and we moved him to GMIS after six months. We found the GMIS environment to be warmer and the kids seem happier. Our daughter started fairly young (in our mind) when she just turned two. Despite never been to any third-party day care, she warmed up to GMIS and its teachers immediately (she didn't cry once). That speaks to the kind of nurturing environment that we found so special about GMIS and its entire staff. Executive Director Vivi Deng takes an active and genuine interest in the well- being of each child in the program and has been very open to parentsC- suggestions. We love the GMIS location -- safe and convenient. GMIS also has a very strong parent community. We have enjoyed getting to know the GMIS parents, working together to support the school's program and becoming great friends.

We have been thrilled by our kids' progress in Chinese since this summer when the school changed from a trilingual to bilingual program. All in all, we are very happy with GMIS and will keep our kids there for a while. GMIS parent

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