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Nov 2008
Re: Daughter will be ready for K, but is too young
At Ecole Bilingue (the French-American school in Berkeley), the
cut-off is December... I don't think there is a specific day in
December. In my children's classes, there have been children who had
late December birthdays and so were quite young compared to some of
their classmates. You don't say if exploring private schools is an
option, but here is one that will let younger kids (December
birthdate) do kindergarten if they are ready. Good luck to you and
your daughter.
eb parent
August 2008
We are sending our child to Ecole Bilingue this year and are
very happy about it. We really think a bilingual eductation is
very valuable. My question is not actually regarding the
school, but rather the other parents. I know that this is
quite absurd of me, but I just need to be honest about it. Just
like at any other school, we are likely to interact quite a bit
with other parents for events, the friends our child makes,
et. From what I have seen, so far, my husband and I don't have
the same level of education nor multi-cultural experiences as
many of the other parents. Nor have I, personally, had an
ambitious career or job that has required very much intellect
or creativity that many of the other parents have. I feel like
somehow I will not be interesting enough, or something to that
effect, with the other parents. I'm also an introvert and can
be quite shy. (Being an introvert doesn't bother me. It's
just that in certain circumstances it can make getting to know
other people more difficult.) My husband could care less
about this, as well he should. And I know this sounds so
ridiculous on my part, like I'm the kid that the ''cool'' kids
won't hang out with. I would love to get some honest feedback
from anyone else who has felt this way and the quickest way you
have gotten passed it.
Foolishly Insecure
We were Ecole Bilingue parents who don't speak French and aren't particularly
outgoing, but we both enjoyed our child's and our experience of EB. We certainly
didn't
hit it off with all the parents, but there was a good group that we gravitated
towards.
It seemed to be relatively easy to become friendly with the parents of our child's
friends, and, as with most groups, it only takes a few friends to make one feel
welcome. All in all, Ecole Bilingue seemed to us to be a more easy going school
socially than some of the other schools we heard about. And the school functions/pot
lucks were great because there were so many great cooks.
parent of Ecole Bilingue graduate
Dear FI-
I have a child who has gone to EB for many years, and I can see
how you might be intimidated. Many of the parents are
high-powered, wealthy,etc. Some,especially from outside the
U.S., are only well-dressed! ;-) I personally may have the
intellectual chops, but we are definitely one of the poorest
families at the school, and can't afford the ski trips, vacations
abroad, 2nd home, etc., that many others there can.
That said, I have found all kinds of parents at EB, and it's one
of the things I like the most about the school. It is truly an
international community, for one thing, and many of the families
come from modest backgrounds. There are also lots of families
with 2 parents in very ordinary jobs, just working to keep their
child there. In my case, I am a single parent, spending every
penny on my child's education, and for that alone, I sometimes
feel I don't quite fit in, but then I remember that there is a
broad spectrum, and it is really up to me to speak to people and
make friends. I have found most, admittedly not all, parents
there to be extremely friendly once given a chance. They have
always been eager to help one another out in a pinch - illness in
the family, for instance, usually brings a barrage of carpooling,
childcare, etc., and I've experienced their support more than once.
You will probably find that you make friends through your child
and their playdates and parties, in any case. And the friends
that your child makes will stay with them all through school; the
kids get to be very close. YOu will have the opportunity to
cultivate those relationships as slowly as you like - you'll have
at least 9 years! My child loves it there, and cannot bear the
thought of leaving, so that says a lot. And remember, true
''cool'' is not caring whether you're cool!
kimbav
I will have 3 children at EB this fall. My experience has been this: I am a very
educated person with some very interesting experiences who has been a stay-at-
home mom for 13 years. I have never done anything with my fancy education and
have always worked in retail. I never traveled internationally until I was in my
thirties, and then it was always on a shoestring. We are not well-to-do, like some
of our children's classmates. While I am rather on the outgoing side of the
spectrum, I also have self-confidence issues and was never ''cool''.
I have managed to accumulate a small but wonderful group of friends among the
parents I have met at the school. We tended to talk more about the kids at first. My
friendships with the other parents seem based more on our mutual respect for one
another as parents and sort of magical and unexplainable connections (sounds so
Berkeley and hokey, but I don't know how else to put it) than on being impressed by
one another's schooling, careers, or multi-cultural experiences.
As this is your first year, I am guessing your child is between the ages of 3 and 5.
I
will have a 3-yr old and a 6-yr old there this fall. Wanna hang out? I'll give it a
try!
Just email me.
the_missus
I know how you feel. I was somewhat intimidated by the parents
at my son's school because I felt we didn't have much in common.
And I too am a somewhat introverted person. I asked some
friends for advice on this and the consensus seemed to be- Just
Say Hi. Start with Hi. You don't have to share a lot of personal
information. You don't need to apologize for who you are or what
you do for a living. Just say hi. Stick to neutral topics before
you get to know people, such as ''can you believe this rain?'' or
''little Olivia is so sweet, she shared her snack with my
daughter.'' ''The kids are so excited about the field trip.''
Something to that effect. Let your sense of humor show, and keep
things short and sweet.
Our neighbors are Ecole Bilingue parents and they are just the
nicest people. I'm so glad they're our neighbors. True, they
are more educated than we are, and they are a more culturally
diverse family, but it has never felt like an issue. They got to
know us and seem to like us the way they are.
There's no reason the families at your child's new school won't
like you- unless they feel all kinds of negative freak out vibes
coming off of you! It's hard to act like a normal person
sometimes, for me anyway, but this year I'm going to fake it ;)
Mom Was Right, ''Just Be Yourself Honey!''
I have my daughter at Ecole (this is our fourth year).
I do have multicultural background and masters degree BUT I can
gaurantee you that you have nothing to feel insecure about....
There are many parents where the moms are home stay moms without
too many outside activities or education and their primary focus
is the kids.....Being multicultural or highly educated is not a
criterion necessarily for making one interesting....it is who
you are as a person...caring about your kids and just
participating in some of the many of the activities will give
you lots to talk about and share with the other parents.....and
you will enjoy and be amuzed by some of it......:)
happy parent
I might not be the best to respond to your question (I have
professional degrees and int'l experience), but let me assure
you that you and your family are VERY welcome within the
parental community. I have found very, very few of the other
parents to be snobs or pretentious. Indeed, it is really hard
to figure out what other parents do since many are self-
effacing about their jobs and positions. I don't think you
should be worried.
I think it is relatively easy to meet other people, too. You
can volunteer for field trips or to do things in the classroom,
come to the many events, etc. Just do not be shy to introduce
yourself to others. Asking other families for play dates is
also a great way to talk to others.
The thing I have found hardest about forming a parental
community at EB is that I think the school and other parents
under-estimate how difficult it is for dual-working couples to
be part of EB activities; I sometimes feel shut out by the non-
working or flexible working parents who all seem to know each
other because they go to events during the day. (This is not
because they are unkind; just that they interact more with each
other.) There are many breakfasts for parents, school event,
etc., but almost all are during the day, impossible for working
parents to attend. But this is probably not much different
than other private schools, and perhaps public schools, too.
In any case, bienvenue!!
other EB parent
Dear Foolishly,
We've been at EB for 3 years now (moved from France and it was
just to obvious school for us to enroll our kids at). We were
somewhat intimidated at first, having to deal with the move and
the new school community all at once.
EB has a buddy system where established families are asked to get
in touch with new families to help them with the transition and
answer all questions. We were very fortunate in that our assigned
buddy family was just the best. They invited us and a few other
newbies to a barbecue a few days before school started, so we got
to meet several people in a more intimate setting before jumping
in. Have you been contacted by a buddy family?
Since our introduction by these now-great-friends, we've been
seriously meaning to volunteer to be buddies for the next
generation, but never did. If you'd like to get in touch and meet
up, we'd be happy to do that soon.
We have 2 sons, entering 1st and 4th grades.
Feel free to e-mail me with questions, or if you'd like to meet up.
Oh, and we're not stuck-up either.
Noemie
Our child went to EB from age 3 through 8th grade. EB parents
come from all sorts of backgrounds and while some are pretty high
powered, there are probably many with education and experience
similar to yours.
I guess the message is that I wouldn't worry about it. I think
you'll find that if you hang around after drop off, you'll find
parents that you'll be able to talk to and some you'll make
friends with.
If you'd like to discuss this some more, please send email.
Richard
April 2008
1-Please advise us on how difficult it is to get into this
school at the preK or K level. My understanding is that the
school has to cater to the French population first and foremost;
and therefore, there's not much opportunity of admissions for
the other non-French applicants.
2- Anybody whose child was admitted way after the March
admission decision?
3- Any experience as compared with Le Lycee in the city? (At Le
Lycee, we did everything we could: early application; actively
pleading our interest and situation...to no avail. Only three
openings in the preK-K program.) Any advice is much appreciated.
Merci beaucoup!
anon.
My experience is that if you want your children to attend EB,
with some patience, it will happen. I originally applied for
my daughters to attend PK for the 2006/07 school year. They
were ''waitlisted''. The admissions director was very straight
with me that there was no chance of a place opening up, let
alone two. (I believe that there was only one PK class that
year and that it was primarily filled with siblings and French
natives.) My niece, who applied at the same time, was admitted
to the MK. I was disappointed that my girls would not be
attending the same school as their cousin and concerned that
the delay in exposure to French would make it more difficult
for them to pick it up. But, I understood the situation and
enrolled my kids in a preschool around the corner from our
house.
EB held my application and my daughters were admitted to MK for
the 2007/08 school year. It was tough changing schools because
the other school was good, fun, and we could walk there from
our house. I really wanted my kids to have a bilingual
education and to attend school with their cousin, so, with some
reservations, I moved them. I wondered if I had made the right
choice (you know the clichH my kids ''loved their school'' and
were ''thriving'') and to make it worse my sister moved so my
niece changed schools.
Now that we are nearing the end of our first year, I am sure I
did the right thing. The MK level is a good introduction to
the school and to the French language and culture. The extra
year doesn't seem to have made much of a difference with
respect to learning a new language. My kids understand French,
pick out and listen to French stories on tape at home, and are
starting to speak French (just when I thought it would never
happen!).
Bilingual education was one of my primary motivations for
sending my kids to EB, but after being there this year, I would
want them to attend even if it weren't a bilingual program. It
was worth the wait.
Louisa
Our son who is now in the MK program was not admitted with our
initial application. He remained on a waiting list and was
admitted the following year. In retrospect, it was a good outcome
for us because we realize now that neither my husband and I nor
our son were entirely ready for the program. In the following
year, we were more comfortable facing the separation, the longer
days and the intensity of the bilingual program. I have never had
the impression that or heard that EB caters to the French
population and what I have observed is that the school population
is international. I have considerable confidence in the
administration at EB as well as in the admissions director and
find them to be highly professional and compassionate. We are an
English speaking household and both my husband and I have just a
little bit of French in our backgrounds. Bonne chance!
an EB parent
I wanted to offer a different perspective on EB. I am a mother and a graduate of EB.
I have also been a nanny for two kids going there. I have seen it be really good for
some kids but I have also seen it be very hard for some especially in middle school.
The kids who did not have french at home had a harder time across the board.
Thats not to say that all of them did. The academic curriculum is very intense
starting from around 4th grade. I think every family should consider changing
schools at 5th grade depending on how their child is doing in school. By 8th grade I
remember having 4 hours of homework a night and crying through much of because
of the stress. I have also seen children having trouble with speech in english
flourish with the emergence of french early on. I think it is a good school to try but
to make sure you are really on top of weather it is the right school for your child and
to make changes if it is not.
After all that I do not think that we will be sending our child there.
mom and alumni
We would like to add some information to the post from an EB
alumna who described stressful middle school years at EB.
EB has made a number of changes to its middle school curriculum
over the years. Teachers now coordinate homework and tests among
classes so that students do not have multiple deadlines at once.
We recently surveyed students and found that they spent an
average of ninety minutes per night on homework. We instituted an
advisory program, so that each middle school student meets
regularly with one faculty member who follows their social
interactions and academic progress in all their classes. We
implemented several programs that have students working across
grade levels on interdisciplinary projects; this has helped build
community spirit and also allows students to explore interests as
diverse as web design and pieata making. This year, our
school-wide professional development focus has been on
differentiated learning, so that our teachers can better support
the different types of learners in each classroom.
All of these changes have been well received by parents and
students. In a comprehensive survey of parents conducted this
past February, 94% of our middle school parents were satisfied
with the programs, and overall, parents who do not speak French
at home are as satisfied as those who do.
Of course we agree with the poster's advice that parents should
periodically evaluate how well a school is working for their
child, and we strongly encourage parents to choose a school that
is a good fit for their child's interests and temperament. But EB
has changed since the poster's time there, and we are proud of
the academic and emotional support we provide our students.
Frederic Canadas,
Head of School
April 2008
I was wondering if anyone could share their experience with enrolling their child in
Ecole Bilingue in K rather than Pre-K. Was it difficult for your child to adjust to
kindergarten as well as learning a new language? Are children at a deficit for not
beginning in the Pre-K year? We are an English only household, but my son has
been exposed to Spanish since birth, so I think language acquisition won't be
completely new to him. I'm just worried that K may be late for starting a language
immersion program.
Any advice or personal experience is appreciated.
anon
I enrolled my daughter at the K level without knowing any French
or any other language. We are an English speaking household.
My daughter was a bit lost the first few months but by the end
of the year understood French and by the time she was in the
first grade spoke French and now that she is in the second grade
she is fluent in French. Actually she likes her French homework
better than her English homework. We have been very lucky
because the teachers that she had in all her classes were great
and my daughter really liked them and it made her want to learn
everything from them.....and speak French.
This has been our experience and I think it is so individual.
However, if you feel that your son is ready for kindergarten, I
do not think the language is an issue. The kids are like
sponges......If you have any questions you can contact me.
A
I can offer my experience of the kids in my son's kindergarten
class at the Lycee in San Francisco. I would say it's much better
to start in preschool if you can. My son was already bilingual
when he started this year in kindergarten, as he lived in France
the first three years of his life, but some of his classmates
started this year with no French whatsoever. They are doing ok,
but it has been hard on a couple of them, their parents tell me.
The Lycee gives special tutoring to these kids, a few hours extra
per week, to help them catch up. And it does end up well in the
end, but I would definitely try to get your child in as early as
possible -- it's much easier for them to pick up a new language
the earlier they start. I can see this with my second son, who
left France as a baby...he is starting preschool at the Lycee in
September at age 3 1/2, and he is more reluctant to learning
French than my younger one, who was in daycare and school in
France starting at age 1. Good luck!
Kristi
My daughter started in K at EB last year. We are a non-French
speaking household. She is now in 1st grade and doing just
fine. She is speaking and reading in French as well as the non-
French kids who started in pre or m-K. When she started in K,
it was challenging at first and probably took about 3 months to
adjust. I don't know if it would have been any easier had she
started earlier. Her teacher in K was fantastic -- very warm,
caring, understanding and patient. There was one other child
who was in the same situation as my daughter (started in K with
no French background) and he did very well too. I don't think
it's too late to start in K. The kids pick it up so fast.
Please call me if you want to discuss further. 510-282-0298.
Amy
I definitely don't think that K is too late to start language
immersion. Our daughter started at EB in K with zero French and
is in first grade now. Neither my husband nor I speak French.
The school has been wonderful for our daughter and us. I was
definitely a little worried that she would freak out on the
first day, particularly since she was not so psyched to go to
kindergarten in the first place. She was fine. The school has
been operating for 30 years and they have dealt with this
situation many times - they know what to do. I'm not
exaggerating when I say that she never mentioned that she
couldn't understand what was going on or that everyone was
speaking French. It was just part of the new experience of
kindergarten. She's really happy at the school and speaks
beautiful French. Is it better to start in Pre-K? Language
acquisition may be a little easier then, but there's no way K is
too late. Our son is finishing his English-speaking pre-school
and will start kindergarten at EB in the fall so that probably
speaks for itself.
mkl
We started our daughter at EB in K, I was nervous about her
feeling frustrated and alienated, and none of those fears
materialized. It went beautifully. The teachers have been warm
and at the same time professional. K is not at all too late to
begin EB.
kf
Our son started Kindergarten at EB for the first time in the
Fall of 2007. We are an English speaking household and he had
very little previous exposure to the French language. We had
the same concerns that you do.
Sure, he was at a bit of disadvantage coming into K with no
French experience (only our son + 2 other new kids in his class
did not speak French). However, EB did a great job a placing
him in a classroom with classmates and fantastic teachers that
were a really nice fit with our son's personality type (they
have 4 Kindergarten classrooms, so they have the flexibility to
do that). The teachers were great with our son, particularly
in the first few months to ease him into the language (using a
lot of gestures and also speaking English when necessary). It
was a little hard for him to make the transition at first, but
by the second half of the school year, he has become very
comfortable with the language and the French-speaking
environment. We recently took a trip to France (during the
school break) and our son was very enthusiastic about speaking
French while there. So we donmt feel that Kindergarten is too
late to begin an immersion program.
While we think it might have been an easier transition at 4
years than at 5, we are happy with our decision to put our son
in an immersion program and think he is having a good and
positive experience at EB.
kfk
My daughter started Kindergarten at EB in Fall 2006. Although I
took some French classes in high school and college, we don't
speak French at home. My daughter didn't understand much
vocabulary at first, but she loved the school and her teacher and
she found she wasn't alone in being new to the French language.
She is now in first grade and doing fine. I think these decisions
are very individual and lots of elements will go into your
decision but starting EB in kindergarten has been a good
experience for us. Happy to discuss.
cd
Nov 2007
we are looking into sending our child to EB, but worry that it
would be more traditional than developmental. we would love to
hear from present/past families. and if you did find it too
traditional for you, where did you send your child and how did
you address the french language education of your child?
hesitant parents
Only you can answer the question of EB being too traditional for you. It
is a more
traditional, academically-oriented school providing a bilingual education.
At times,
I think my oldest child would have been happier had he attended a
Montessori
school or something more ''free'' and experimental....child-driven or
something like
that. When he seemed to be struggling on all fronts and I questioned my
decision
to enroll him at EB, I did some research and posed the idea of changing to
him. He
was horrified at the thought. Of course, EB is all he remembers as a
school. His
schooling began at a very soft and gentle, sweet and small,
Montessori-based
preschool so EB was a huge shift. He is currently in his 5th year there
and this
seems to be the best year so far...the culmination of all past efforts.
He is thriving
academically and socially. And he can read, speak and write in English
and French.
His younger sister has loved the school from the get-go and has progressed
with no
issues thus far. We are not native speakers, but both my husband and I
were very
interested in our children having a bilingual education. It is definitely
not a school
for everyone. I think it works for us because I am not too intimidated to
speak out
when something does not feel right. Determining your priorities is the
best advice I
can give. There are some french language programs that you can supplement
a
''regular'' education with...things like ''french for fun'' in Lafayette.
I wish you the
best of luck in your process. Feel free to email if you have questions...
Current EB parent
Dear Hesitant Parent-
I would be more than happy to talk to you about our experience at
Ecole Bilingue in hopes that I could assist you in removing or
diminishing any fears you may have. It's hard in an e-mail for me
to directly address your comment regarding your concerns about
the school being ''more traditional than developmental'' without
further direct conversation to understand what that means to you.
What I can share with you is that I have 2 boys (twins) who
started EB at the MK preschool level. They are now just about 3
months through Kindergarten. We do not speak French at home
(although my husband and I are taking French lessons) and chose
EB because we wanted our kids to grow up bilingual. We are
somewhat Francophiled (my husband and I cycled through France a
number of times and my sister-in-law is French) - which is
perhaps why we had more of a passion over other languages. Our
boys transitioned really well into the MK classroom. It contained
elements that were familiar from their old preschool with circle
time, manipulative activities, cooking, music, painting, etc.. --
alot of fun, fun activities all while the French language
immersion is beginning. We've been excited to see them flourish
in Kindergarten as well. Our guys have a constant flow of energy
and I think that while they get an opportunity to expend it on
the playground they also positively direct it by the nature of
the immersion. It's truly amazing. At the end of the day they are
learning, having fun and making friends. The teachers are
extremely dedicated. They abound with endless energy. The
community of families are all very friendly and truly are a
representation of the world. It's been nice to make new friends
too. I really believe that you do take on this bilingual journey
(sounds cliche-ish and I'm sorry about that) with a certain
amount of faith(confidence), commitment and stick-to-it-tiveness
if you are in an English only household -- that you will see the
fluency come to life. Please don't hesitate to contact me so I
can try and answer any other questions (or the actual question
you posted) if I haven't done so with my input already.
Hilary
We started our son in the preschool when he was almost 3 years
old. If I were to do it again I would have started him in
Kindergarten and that is what I am going to do with my daughter.
The preschool is very structured and that is sometimes good for
that age but the day was too long and the program a bit too
structured for him. He is now 8 years old and thriving and is
fluent in French. He struggles with school but the the class
size is small and the school is great at providing tutors/support
for kids with problems with English or French. If you really want
your child to learn French then the school is great for that.
Speaking French well is even difficult for some of the children
at EB when the parents don't speak the language at home. I also
like the community at EB - the parents are involved and friendly.
I recommend it highly.
Berkeley Francophile
I've had kids at EB for the past 4 years, and am very happy with
the school. It IS more structured than an average American
school, but there is still a lot of room for individual
differences among kids, and a lot of dedicated, energetic, caring
teachers.
My younger daughter is now in first grade, and has a strong
nonconformist streak. But her teachers have always recognized
this and given her room for it. They strike a good balance
between setting expectations but allowing her some leeway about
what she does and when. I think this has been very beneficial for
her, and she is certainly happy and thriving at the school.
My older daughter is now in fourth grade, and doesn't have the
same nonconformist streak, but she does have some mild learning
issues, and her teachers have been very accommodating and
supportive. She has really benefited from the structure, and is
developing very good work habits that help her compensate for her
issues. Also, one of the schoolwide priorities this year is
differentiated learning, i.e. training teachers to support the
vide variety of ability levels and learning styles in any classroom.
To answer your other question about supporting French language
education: I don't think my kids would be bilingual if they
weren't at EB. Their dad is French, and I'm a fluent speaker, but
before my daughters started at EB they could understand French
but barely speak it. The influence of English is so strong around
them, and it only gets stronger as kids get older. And although
I'm sure that they could have learned spoken French just through
travel, if they don't also learn to read and write in it then
they won't be able to take full advantage of their dual
nationality. And neither their dad nor I would have the time or
the skills to teach them that. Thanks to EB, my daughters will
have the possibility of continuing their education in France or
working there as adults.
So overall EB has been a very good fit. The curriculum is great
(where else do fourth graders study the Middle Ages as well as
the Gold Rush?), the community is incredible, and my kids love it.
Happy EB Parent
We put our son into Ecole Bilingue in September. He is in the MK
class. I wish very much that my daughter had made it into the
preschool because our son loves school so much and we love being
there with him. I do not think that it is too traditional. To be
perfectly honest, I believe that EB is absolutely perfect for us.
In fact, we recently had an opportunity to move to London but
chose to stay here because we love the community at EB. Our son's
teachers really love the children. They have wonderful art
projects, music, field trips, etc. Recently my father-in-law
spent a day at EB with our son. He asked if he could enroll in
kindergarten himself. Every day our daughter asks if it's her
turn to go to her brother's school.
What else can I say? We really, really love EB. We do not speak
French but are planning to take French classes. We listen to
French music at home, French flashcards, books, cartoons, etc. to
help all of us learn. Our son is picking it up so quickly! It's
just amazing!
His classroom is full of the most amazing, diverse children! The
parents are very involved. The teachers are very caring. There is
art EVERYWHERE! Today as I was walking down the hallway I
thought, ''am I in an enchanted forest?'' It's just amazing!
We want International children. That is why we put our son in EB
and have committed our daughter to summer school and Kindergarten
there.
I have no complaints. I highly recommend EB to anyone!!
flycorey
We have our 3 year old daughter, and six year old son currently
enrolled at EB. Our son started at the MK level and we are very
grateful for the early French exposure as well as the special
buddies he had an opportunity to make. He enjoys school, has
friends, organizes his fifteen minutes of homework himself, and
laughs (a lot).Our daughter is really enjoying her PK
year, ''loves my whole class'', and is also joking and laughing
when we see her at school. And that is just the point for us,
structure makes our kids feel safe, but within that structure
there is creativity and joy.The parent population runs the
gamut from academics, many creative types(artists, designers),
to business and finance sorts. And the standards and placements
are top notch. We could not hope for better for our family.The
descriptive adjective that comes to my mind is not traditional,
but progressive. Please feel free to contact us directly with
questions/concerns.
tina
Sept 2007
Re: Finding a preschool
I would highly recommend Ecole Bilingue, the East Bay French
Bilingual School. We sent our children there for all the reasons
you cite: diversity, language, art etc After 8th grade, some of
them went on to private schools and others to public schools. The
school instilled great study habits. They learned a 2nd language
effortlessly and received a terrific education which combined
both French discipline and American curiosity. I just looked on
line and though the tuition is stiff, EB is very generous with
scholarships and you can get 55% financial aid.
nhu
Sept 2005
For anyone who sent their English speaking child to the French
American School, how difficult was the language acquisition at
the kindergarten level? I am strongly considering this school
for my daughter who is happily enrolled in another preschool.
I could let her finish the preschool (she's three now) and
start Ecole Bilingue in kindergarten but I'm concerned that
waiting another year would make things more difficult for her
and put her behind the other students. We do not speak French
at home so she's already somewhat disadvantaged though I
understand that half of the students speak no French at home.
Any thoughts? Thanks.
We are a non-French speaking family of a 6yo girl who just entered the
1st grade at
Ecole Bilingue. She started in Kindergarten. Originally, we were
interested in the
Spanish immersion program in the Berkeley Public Schools, but we were
unable to
get into this program. Deciding on EB was a difficult decision for me,
and I would
be dishonest if I didn’t say that I still keep a close eye on my
decision. We chose EB
and language immersion because:
1) We believe speaking at least two languages is a valuable skill, and
easiest learned
as a young child. If you do not speak the other language in your home,
what better
way is there to help your children learn another language than school
and an
immersion program?
2) We were not impressed with the public school in our
neighborhood/zone. Private
school, for too many reasons to explain here, was our choice, and we
felt Ecole
Bilingue was unique among the various private schools we looked at due
to the 40+
ethnicities represented in the school community. In one day, my
daughter not only
hears French and English, but many other languages on the play yard.
3) EB feels like an international school, providing a worldview
approach to learning.
This is important to us. Our daughter is part of a traveling family,
and feeling like a
world citizen, not just a US citizen, is ! something we think is
important.
4) As it is reputed, EB is structured, and very academic in nature.
However, I have
also found the faculty to be very loving and sweet with the children.
This is not an
overly rigid school at all. My daughter has adored her teachers at EB.
That said, I will also be honest in saying that, even after a year at
EB, I have yet to
stop worrying whether or not I have caused an undue hardship on my
daughter in
putting her in a language immersion program when we do not speak the
language
at home. Her teachers say she is doing fine, and she seems happy.
However, I
know that even after a full year, she is not speaking French yet. She
understands
much of what her teachers say. She can get by on basics (asking where
the
bathroom is, numbers, colors, etc.), but she isn’t conversational yet,
and I worry
that she might get bored in class, or not feel excited about the
projects, when she
can’t fully communicate with her teachers. It is indeed a difficult
decision, with
more challenges to face than the normal school experience. All I can
say so far, in
our second year, is it is going well – not GREAT, but we! ll.
I don’t know if this helps you much. I just want to give you a
realistic perspective so
you can make a confident choice either way. If you send your child to
any duel-
immersion program (French or Spanish or other), this will be more of a
challenge for
your child, at least at first. Hopefully, this will pay off with the
reward of
bilingualism, and the benefits of this type of early learning (see:
http://
www.ebfas.org/bilingualism.html), but it is indeed a bigger challenge
for your child.
You will probably also need to get your child a language tutor
beginning in 1st
grade. We are pursuing this now.
One last thing – Remember that Ecole Bilingue is the “French American”
school, not
just the French school. Your child will also have plenty of English
speaking
classmates and teachers. I find more people at EB tend to speak
English on the play
yard than French, and beginning in 3rd grade, the curriculum is 50/50
French/
English.
I hope this helps! Feel free to email me if you want to chat more.
Anne
Without having seen the original question, I wanted to offer the
following
comments. Our daughter started Ecole Bilingue in kindergarten and had
a
wonderful time from the beginning, though neither my husband nor I
spoke French.
Her teachers were gentle, playful, creative and fun, and she picked up
French from
songs and games and other ''instruction,'' and there were no tutors.
Not that a
bilingual education is for every child - my understanding is that the
Admissions
Director evaluates each child to assess whether Ecole Bilingue would be
a good
environment for that child. We didn't view the kindergarten and early
grades as
overly academic as one writer suggested.
Our daughter is now a 19 year old sophomore in college who is proud of
and greatly
values her bilingual education. From my vantage point, Ecole Bilingue
helped her
learn different ways of viewing and solving problems and exposed her to
many
different nationalities and experiences in addition to a traditional
education. History
courses were not as US- or California- centered as with other schools,
although
students were exposed to much of the history we grew up with. In
elementary
school, they visited a California mission, lived on a farm as late 18th
Century
pioneers for 3 days and visited Washington DC. But they also stayed
with a French
family for 2 weeks and later were host to a French student. She (and
we) learned a
lot about French culture (including food).
Ecole Bilingue is a wonderful community of teachers, students, parents
and other
staff and a wonderful environment for children. We encourage parents
to look into
EB to see if it is the right place for their children.
Nov 2003
The Ecole Bilingue de Berkeley (East Bay French American
School) has been an excellent experience for my daughter
(now in 8th grade), and for our family. She loves her
school,has received an excellent education and has real
breadth from her experience.
One reason we selected EB for her in kindergarten
was to give her the chance to become fluent in another
language at a young age and learn more about a non-US
culture. My husband and I both have French ancestry but
neither of us really spoke French. The students at EB become
fluent in French and English, reading, writing and speaking
both with ease and without accents. Watching them switch
back and forth between languages as if turning a light
switch still amazes me. But more than that is the global
perspective which they have learned - that there is more
than one way to do things, that art and literature and
politics and history are a function of culture, and even why
the French and American ways of doing math are different
(yet both still reach the right answer!). World history is
rather different in the American and the French curriculum,
for example, and provides an opportunity to challenge one's
preconceptions and develop critical thinking skills. And I
was also impressed with the difference in the approach in
the early years - kindergarten there is very nurturing and
playful, not quite so academic and yet by third grade they
can read in two languages.
The families at EB are wonderful, and we've made many good
friends there, and even children who leave the school often
stay in close friendships with their buddies. Because there
are many international students at EB, we've also had the
chance to build relationships with families overseas, and
the children's 5th grade exchange with France is a wonderful
experience. The student body is relatively diverse (compared
with other independent schools) in terms of ethnicity,
language, economics, religion and family structure. The
school follows both the California curriculum and the French
curriculum, and after three years of immersion in French
(one hour a day in English) they spend about half the day in
English and half in French.
EB is about the mid-range among private schools in terms of
tuition, but in many ways I feel that we really received
something quite a bit extra - fluency in two languages,
appreciation for two cultures, and a global perspective.
These days more than ever that has real value to me.
Theresa
Feb 2003
We're considering sending our child to Ecole Bilingue, to start
their pre-K program. The one recent review is quite negative,
and I wonder whether other parents have anything to add,
positive or negative, about their childrens' recent experiences
at the school. I also wonder what parents' thoughts are about
starting children at 3 vs. 4 vs. 5?
It was not clear from your posting what negative information you
have received about EB. Our daughter has attended the school
for two years now and we are very happy with many aspects of our
experience there. We also have several friends with grown
children who attended EB and their experiences have been mostly
positive. As with any school, however, some people will have
negative experiences. The definition of negative experience
will differ from one person to the next and what might be
negative to you may not be so for another person.
As you may know, kindergarten is divided into three parts PK, MK
and K. Our dughter started in MK and is now in K. We are very
satisfied thus far with the experiences in both classes. She
started out speaking no French and is now almost fully fluent.
We speak three other languages besides French in our home and
she understands all four and is open to many other languages and
cultures. We credit a lot of this openness to her experiences
at EB as well as our attitude to cultures at home.
I have heard of negative information received by other parents
contemplating EB for their children and just about all of them
have been erroneous. For example one parent told me that she
heard that children are made to wear dunce caps in a certain
grade if they do not understand what is being taught. I have
inquired into this claim through other parents, students and
teachers and none of them have heard of or experienced such
practices. It is true that the curriculum becomes much more
challenging after approximately second grade, and is more so if
neither parent speaks French. However you mentioned in your
post that both you and your spouse are French speakers so this
should not be a problem.
One thing that I would like to see improved at the school is
their level of diversity, both racial and economic, but that is
being addressed and hopefully will improve in the next few years.
My views regarding the appropriate age to start your child are
that it definitely depends on your child's temperament and
maturity level. Our almost 3 year old will be starting PK in
September and we believe that she is mature enough to start.
However, we have friends whose older children are also in the
school who have an almost four year old who could begin MK in
September, but they believe that he is not mature enough to
start and will wait until K to start him. It is a full day
program and whether your child can handle a full day bilingual
immersion program mostly depends on his/her ability to cope with
such a program.
You should attend one of the information nights and try to meet
with some parents of kids who currently attend to get a
realistic and honest sense of their experiences at EB.
Best of luck in your school search.
I have been a parent at Ecole Bilingue for a long time; two of
my children started at the pre-K level, one in K, and I'd be
happy to tell you more about their experience if you'd like to
email me directly. It is hard to generalize as so much depends
on the age and maturity of each child as well as on the needs
of individual families. My oldest child thrived in a half-day
nursery school program and I wasn't sure that she had the
stamina for a full- day program prior to Kindergarten at EB.
Her younger siblings appeared more ready for a full day program
at the same age and they enjoyed the fact that their MidK class
was part of a ''big kids school''. Another major issue is
language. Clearly there are some tangible benefits to starting
language immersion two years before learning to read and write
in a foreign language if the child doesn't speak French at
home. But I have also known children who started only in K and
went on to become flawlessly bilingual and utterly at ease with
the language. Again,it is hard to generalize. I too read the
recent negative feedback and was disturbed by it, especially
since the new parents I have spoken with this year had very
different experiences with the school. I heard a lot of praise
regarding the Pre K and K program especially. It also appeared
that there was a misunderstanding regarding EB's view on
attrition. Don't hesitate to email me if you have more specific
questions,and I'll do my best to answer them,
Laura
Hi,
I have two daughters at Ecole Bilingue. There are definitely
pros and cons, but I have to say my kids love it there and it is
a joy to have them learn a second language so young.
I waited to think about EB until my oldest was ready for
kindergarten, so they started at 3 and 5. They both did fine,
but as far as language aquisition went, I noticed a difference.
They both picked up comprehension rapidly but with the 3 year
old it was more unconcious, and with the 5 year old you could
already see the mental wheels turning as she worked out what was
said and what it meant.
This is their 3rd year there, so my youngest is now in
kindergarten and my oldest in 2nd grade.
I know that some of the pre-K kids have some issues with the
program at first; I think especially if they have not been in
another pre-school situation. My 3-year old had already had a
year in pre-school before going to EB, and the pre-K school day
was not too long at all for her. She was a big napper, so the
day was generally the morning routine, lunch, then she slept
until it was almost time to go home at 3. It was a great pre-
school experience for her.
satisfied mom of EB pre-schooler
Jan 2003
I pulled both my sons out of French American last year
after four years. We tried to make it work, but found the
social environment too damaging.
A couple of many specifics: One of my sons was teased, so
we told him to tell a teacher. The next day, he said, the
kids chased him and threw his hat over a fence, and when he
told a teacher, he was told to run faster. Another time one
of my sons knocked out a kid's loose tooth. The kid bled,
washed himself, and walked around untreated. The school
found out when we told them about it the next day.
My son said once when he fidgeted in his chair, he had to work
bent over at his desk for five minutes.
The education was mixed -- the math was good, the
English weak.
There are positives, particuarly a diverse multicultural
student/parent body. There is a new headmaster, and some of
the problems may be addressed -- I wish them well. But
parents looking at French American should remember that the
school depends on a very rote curriculum. Generally girls,
and boys who like to sit still, will do better. Bear in
mind that there are far more early-grade students than
there are older kids, owing to the high attrition rate --
something the school both expects and may need, because of
a cap on the number of students at the facility. At least
one of my kids would likely have been told to leave, had we
not pulled them out ourselves, owing to his eventual
refusal to participate.
Quentin
2001
I have looked at the website already and most of the posts are very positive regarding
this school (most are from 1998). I am interested in hearing from any parents who do
not speak French and have sent their children to this school. We are considering
sending our child to the mid-K program next Fall (he will be four), but are concerned
that he might not be able to keep up with the French immersion program if we don't
speak the language at home. If anyone can share their experience on this specific topic,
that would be helpful.
Thank you.
Susan
I wouldn't worry about not speaking French at home. Our son went to EB for
a few years, starting in 1st grade. He was one of only two (out of 60)
non-French-speaking children to start at that level. Even so, he didn't
have a problem with the immersion approach and was more or less
conversationally fluent by Christmas. For a 4 year old I wouldn't expect it
to be a problem except in the rare case of a specific learning disability.
Obviously, if either parent speaks French at all, even if only at the "high
school French class" level, that is all to the good, but I don't think it is
a critical factor at all.
Tim
Although my answer is not completely related to the
French American school, here it is. We speak Romanian
at home and we sent our daughters to preschool when
they were two years old without them having any prior
knowledge of English. They both learned to understand
and speak (in this order) English very quickly (2
months) and they adjusted perfectly. Children do pick
up foreign languages very quickly and easy. They have
a wonderfully large capacity of learning that we don't
usually "feed" enough. I'm thinking of sending my
daughters to the French American School not only
because of the French language and culture but also
because of the european school curriculum that is
applied there. I spoke to the teachers and they told
me there are several trilingual students there that do
just fine. I know a couple of examples too.
Good luck. Simona
We are considering the Ecole Bilingue (French American School) for our
daughter who will start kindergarten this fall and would be interested in
comments on the school from other UCB parents. If your child was not a
native French speaker, how was the adjustment? What would you say about
the teaching approach and quality, leaving aside the language aspect? What
do you think about the school as a parent - participation opportunities,
responsiveness to parents, bureaucracy or lack thereof?
My daughter started school at the French/American school in kindergarten.
Sofia, now in 4th grade has enjoyed her teachers, classmates and the entire
world of French/American school. When Sofia started she spoke only
English, though my husband is a Francophone we never made Sofia, who never
seemed interested in anything but English speak French until kindergarten.
Sofia is a completely bilingual child, reads for fun in both languages and
speaks whichever language is appropriate without any effort. I would
recommend this school highly to people who can help at home with French or
can afford tutoring as well. The school is a happy place for the children
and all seem to be enjoying themselves. I also have three neices at EB who
are doing well and enjoying school. They started with French and are now
French/English. Our girls are very happy with THEIR school.
From: Amelie
We have two kids at Ecole Bilingue: a daughter in 1st grade and a son in
Pre-K. It's their second year; both started out knowing no French.
They have done extremely well, and the fact that 80% of their day is in
French has been no problem. I believe 60% of the children at the school
speak no French at home. I do speak some French (though my husband
doesn't); that has been helpful since my daughter started having homework
(that is, since she started first grade). But the teachers are well
trained to deal with these issues.
There is an optional after-school study hall for which you can sign up
your kids, where French- and English-speaking teachers can help children
with their homework. So far the homework has been fairly simple (10-15
minutes on school nights) so my daughter goes to etude only once a week,
and that's mainly because her best friend goes. I understand that the
homework load increases quite a bit in the higher grades, so that would
be a way to solve that problem. I've heard that kids learn to ask their
teachers for help with their French homework, rather than their parents.
As far as the instructional philosophy and program, I suppose it is on
the more structured end of the spectrum, but the teachers I have known
personally have been very warm, talented, kind, and aware of my
children's strengths and weaknesses. The school is accredited by the
French
government, and in order to retain its accreditation must cover the
entire curriculum of French schools, as well as meeting the requirements
of our school system. I haven't seen any indication that the amount of
structure has negatively affected the amount of attention and support or
the quality of instruction.
It was hard initially making the adjustment from a cozy 3-room
neighborhood Montessori school to a large, urban school with many "big
kids," but we have been very happy with our decision to send our kids to
the French-American School. Anyone with questions is welcome to e-mail me
privately.
From: Christine
I am a founder of Ecole Bilingue, and was the
first chair of the board from 1977-79. It is a marvelous place. I sent
all three of my children there: the oldest began in 1st grade, the next in
kindergarten, and the youngest in pre-kindergarten. All are still
bi-lingual, and the oldest actually speaks four languages. In fact, she
is the editor of a Spanish language medical magazine, and also puts out
editions in Portuguese. (And yes, she still speaks French, though not
as often. Her husband is Mexican, and Spanish is their household
language.)
Any child entering a bilingual environment will do better the earlier
he/she starts. Even though the earliest grades begin with 80% or so of
French, that is to compensate for the English surroundings they are in.
It is very easy for them to acquire a new language through songs and
games and art, and they will also have good accents! Yes, the curriculum
is structured; it satisfies for American and French educational
requirements. But it is also very loving.
Don't worry about not speaking French yourselves. You will not be able to
help acquiring some. But many of the parents don't speak anything but
French. We had familiarity with French, but spoke English at home.
One of the reasons we wanted to found a French - American bilingual
school,
verses German or Spanish or any other world language, is just that French
is spoken in so many different cultures around the world. Consequently,
it is not just European heritage that is taught. I think this is an
enormous plus. The children become very international in their outlook,
and the School community is probably more diverse than you will find in
any public school.
From: Susan
My stepdaughter attended Ecole Bilingue (EB) through middle school and is
now a junior here at UCB. My daughter is currently in 4th grade at EB. We
wanted our children to be bilingual and EB has a very successful immersion
program. The older daughter is now studying her fourth language (Catalan)
in preparation for a year studying abroad. (EB introduced Spanish in 5th
grade and she is quite fluent in Spanish, as well.) When we were
considering a school for her sister, she recommended EB as a place for her
sister to attend.
We are largely happy with the bilingual program and the school. The
teachers (even the French teachers) are warm to the children and my
daughter has really liked her teachers. All schools have their pros and
cons and I don't yet know of any perfect school. The children seem to be
happy whenever I visit the school and other parents have commented on this
as well. There are specialists which teach subjects such as drama,
computer, art, p.e., science, and music. It has also been an education
for me in French culture and attitudes. Currently EB is looking for a new
head master. The interim head, Sue Maino, is excellent.
My step daughter (now at UCB) went through EBFAS lower and middle school
and my daughter is in 5th grade this year at EBFAS. We have been very
happy with the school and the results of our daughters being bi- and tri-
lingual. (My step daughter began taking Spanish in 6th grade and kept up
her French and Spanish through high school and first years of college and
is now on a year abroad in Barcelona.) The school does have to keep up
with the French curriculum so that any French student can attend the
school
for a year or two and return to their school in France without skipping a
beat. Neither I nor my husband speak French, although we do have second
languages that we speak. The school generally makes available French
classes for parents if the parents are inclined to learn the language.
When the children start school, teachers will speak in English when it is
needed. There is also some adjustment, moreso for parents, to learning
some of the French ways. There are generally great teachers and an
active
parents' group.
From: Jean
My niece, who is
now in high school, started at Ecole Bilingue in kindergarten. She was later
diagnosed with a learning disability which the teachers failed to pick up.
Her parents found the teachers very cold and unhelpful, rather on the French
model. She was miserable there and moved to another school in the third or
fourth grade. She never gained any confidence in her abilities and is still
having a hard time. I have also heard people who love it, but I really think
that it depends on the child.
Oct 2008
My son is 19th months old and soon enough he will be of age to go to school ( 2010)
Being half french from birth ( I am French and my husband is American) he is eligible to
get financial aid from the french government to go to the Ecole bilingue de Berkeley,
which we are considering. Are there any parents around who are/ have been in that
same situation who could tell us about the procedure to get financial aid and what
their experience has been?
Pascale
I have two kids at EB and while we haven't received financial aid
through the French Consulate we have applied twice. My husband
has dual nationality French/American and I am American. If you
haven't already, make sure your child is matriculated through the
consulate, that can take a while. The actual application process
is quite rigorous. You will need to present all proof of income
such as your most recent IRS income tax (1040),
investment/bank/financial statements for several months, pay
stubs for several months, plus an application form. Then you go
to the consulate for an interview and they review your paperwork
and then they may request more documentation or clarification. If
your income isn't that high the french government can be quite
generous. The scholarships aren't funded in a randomly, the
amounts are based on income/expenses. The school has a yearly
meeting with a representative from the consulate that goes
through the application process and how they make their choices.
Good luck! We have enjoyed the school and it is great way to be
connected to French culture in the US.
anon
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