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Driving to Yosemite in winter

December 2006

We are planning a trip to Badger Ski area in Yosemite in February. We have a minivan which we could buy chains for. Will we be okay with that or should we rent an SUV. We are from the east coast so we know how to drive in snow, I was just not sure how the roads are or how well and quickly they are plowed when it snows. Thanks
New to Yosemite


You'll be fine as long as you have chains and know how to put them on yourself. We've been going skiing in Yosemite for years in our Volvo wagon. Most years we haven't needed to use the chains, but a few times we have, so it pays to be prepared. They'll post signs if you need to be using your chains
You'll be fine. If you're used to driving in snow (I'm a native midwesterner), you will likely be stunned at how bad some Californians are at it. In fairness, they don't have many chances to practice it. But then many seem to think that AWD makes up for that lack of experience, which . . . no. (especially without snow tread tires)

The big advantage of AWD is that in most snow/road conditions, CalTrans permits AWD cars to forego chaining up (in other conditions all cars must chain, so even if you rent an AWD, you'll need to carry chains; check with the rental company). So if you have AWD, you usually get to skip that lovely slog in the slush on the roadside. Practice putting your chains on at home, and see how you find it. If you get cable chains, installation is pretty easy. Personally, in difficult conditions, I'd rather drive a car I'm familiar with, even if it means chain installation.

Check your route and road conditions carefully. Hwy 140 will probably be your best bet in bad weather, because it stays at the lowest altitudes into the park, but it may be slower because of the one-way section (there was a big slide earlier this year that closed the road for a while, and the current bypass around it is only one lane, so it has signal-controlled one-way driving). If the weather is clear and has been for a while, 120 can definitely be faster into the park.

Before you leave, check the CalTrans road condition website at: http://www.caltrans.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/. It's constantly updated with closures and chain requirements. Once you're on the road, call 1-800-GAS-ROAD, which is the CalTrans info line, same info as the website. Have fun! Loves Yosemite


Anytime during potential snow season (At least September through April) you are required by federal law to carry chains in Yosemit National Park. They will ask you if you have them at the entrance station, and they may ask to see them. We were up there one April in a 4 wd little wagon and really neaeded the chains. But that was on Hwy 120 that goes through Groveland. What I would say is that your van will probably be fine. If it is snowing don't take hwy 120 as it is higher elevation and probably far more exposed to weather from the north. Instead take the road that goes through Mariposa (140). It was closed by a rock slide earlier this year, but is now open. Make sure you check the Caltrans and yosemite national park web pages before you go for info on roads. Once you are in the valley if you are staying there, you can take the shuttle up to Badger Pass. Have a wonderful time. Yosemite is amazing in the winter
We go to Badger Pass several times a year with our children in our Honda Odyssey using chains (actually cables) and it is fine. Always of course call the CalTrans number for road conditions and there is also a number to call for Yosemite road conditions. (check the website which I think is www.nps.gov/yose. Normally the roads into the park from the south and the west (120) are plowed and so is the road to Badger Pass (Glacier Point road). Have fun! Let it snow
We go for a winter trip to Yosemite almost every year. Yosemite generally does not receive heavy snow in the winter. Unless is has snowed in the last 1-2 days before your trip to the park, chances are that the roads in the valley will not have any snow on it. Badger Pass is higher up (7000 ft+), and the road will likely have snow on it, but the Park Service and/or CalTrans does a good job of keeping it groomed - if you have chains on your minivan, you should be fine.
A minivan with chains should be sufficient for Yosemite snow and ice. Much of the road down to the valley is shaded, so it can get icy. This past spring, I drove my minivan with spidertrax (special chains for minivan that are really easy to put on)in Yosemite valley. At the time, chain controls were for the first 13 miles from the gate (Big Oak Flat entrance)- for all cars, trucks, vehicles regardless of 4wd or AWD. Since it is a national park, you need chains for SUVs and other 4WD or AWD! You are required to carry them with you into the park. Have fun! Jennifer

More reviews of Yosemite

Re: Snowy vacation that is NOT TAHOE (Nov 2005)
GREAT place for small family for snow is Yosemite! Winter is EMPTY and they have fantastic and CHEAP cabins (heated with bathrooms & showers) at Curry Village. The Curry Village restaurant is open and there is plenty of snow for playing. If you'd like, there is even a little downhill ski area, perfect for little ones. Enjoy!
Re: Snowy vacation that is NOT TAHOE (Nov 2005)
I heartily recommend Badger Ski Park at Yosemite. It is within the five-hour limit you have specified, they have a great kids' snow play area, excellent cross-country trails that one can use with either skis or snow shoes, and downhill ski areas as well. You can rent skis or snow shoes and do as much or as little of the trail as you want. But book lodging early (now) because it's pretty popular. Here's a good web site about Badger: http://www.yosemitepark.com/content3col.cfm?SectionID=118&PageID=483
Lori
Re: Snowy vacation that is NOT TAHOE (Nov 2005)
Check out Badger Pass in Yosemite. We love it. Burr

Camping in Yosemite

June 2004

I'd like to take my children (ages 8 and 10) camping this summer in Yosemite and Tahoe. Can you recommend the best places to camp? We're not ready for backpacking yet, so I would need the kind of campground where you drive in. In Tahoe, my goal is to be near a sandy beach (are there any camp grounds within walking distance of Lake Tahoe??). In Yosemite, my main goal is to see Half Dome with as little driving in the park as possible. Thanks for any recommendations. - eager camper


In Yosemite, the most obvious place for you to camp is right in the valley. Just call the park and tell them what you're looking for, but do it soon, the valley campsites fill up VERY quickly for summer. Have fun
June 2003

Hi, we are going camping for the first time with our 4 year old. Do you know any campgrounds near Yosemite with running water toilets and possibly showers? It seems that finding space inside Yosemite this time of the year is next to impossible. Thank you! Laura


Take a look at ''California Camping'' by Tom Stienstra. It lists and describes many campgrounds in the general area where you want to go. Katy
My experience is that if you are tenacious, you can get lodging in Yosemite Valley. Their cancellation policy is: if you cancel up to three days before your arrival, you get a full refund--so people do cancel three days before their scheduled trip.

If you keep calling (559) 252-4848 or go online (google search: Yosemite Reservations), you will most likely be able to secure some lodging in the valley. My family got two beautiful rooms (overlooking blooming dogwood) at the Lodge over Memorial Day weekend by calling every day for the week before. The Lodge or Curry Cabins (with bath)are both nice options. Good luck! Linda Williams


In order to get more info. aboaut camping outside Yosemite go to Yosemite.com or NPS.gov (national park service). Click around on that website for camping outside Yosemite Valley. If you can camp during the week your chances for a reservation increase and if you can wait until early September, you can probably get into Yosemite itself. This will be our third year going to Yosemite's Tuolomne Meadows and I literally call the first day that is designated to make a reservation for the dates I want (5 months in advance). It is part of my routine now as I have learned the system. Do you have to go to Yosemite? There are some nice camp grounds in Lake Tahoe. There are some California campground books that can be helpful too. Good Luck. Remember, generally Yosemite camping reservations for the summer require a 5 month advance camp reservation call. Good Luck! Happy Camper

Summer trip to Tahoe or Yosemite

June 2004

RE: Summer trip to Tahoe or Yosemite
We are doing the same thing next week (6 adults, 1 kid) and were able to find what looks like really nice lodging for a very reasonable price.

http://www.idiom.com/~slbrown/cabin/ Where we're staying while in Yosemite: it's at 5500' so should be cool, 3BR 2BA can sleep up to 10, has a full all-electric kitchen, linen service if desired. It's not luxury living but fits our needs well.

http://www.evergreenlodge.com/cabins.html (another option)


Not sure of your Yosemite options if you need lodging where you can cook meals as well. But for both Tahoe and Yosemite lodging, you might try Vacation Rentals by Owner -- a website by which private owners list and rent their vacation properties, sometimes for a great price because they cut out the middleman/property management company. Check out www.vrbo.com and select geographically.

Bass Lake

Re: Kid-friendly cabin near a lake May 2003
Bass Lake is about a 3-1/2 hour drive from the Bay Area; 15 miles south of the southern entrance to Yosemite. It is a beautiful lake, great for swimming. It is popular with waterskiiers. You could look at basslakerealty.com for rentals. We rent our cabin through them. It is kid friendly for older kids who can be on their own - i.e. it's not fenced, and near a hill. ellen

Yosemite in April

March 2003

My family is considering a trip to Yosemite the first weekend in April. It turns out that all winter-related activities will be over by then--no skiing, tubing, ice skating etc. Are there activities that time of year that a 6 year-old would enjoy? The reservations clerk I spoke to suggested the 2 hour valley bus tour (not so sure how much my daughter would enjoy that), hikes and bike riding. Other ideas? Thanks. Debbie


Yosemite is April is a great idea!! Consider a ranger-lead walk/hike. Definately bring bikes - there are bike trails throughout the valley. Waterfalls should be beautiful and most are easy to get to - walking or biking. Enjoy!
My favorite memories of Yosemite when I was little was of horseback riding with my family. You can go through streams and meadows and take in all the lovely sites. You can sign up for guided horseback rides of 2 hours, 1/2 day and full day. Here is a link with more information: http://www.yosemiteparktours.com/summer/activities_horseback_rid ing.htm Really wonderful if your daughter is ready for horses!

Yosemite Lodging, Dog Friendly

May 2003

We are seeking dog friendly lodgings for a trip to Yosemite. The website doesn't have info on this. Please let me know if you have a cabin or know of a cabin where dogs are allowed. Our dog is well-behaved, female, 30 pounds, 3 years old, has her vaccinations, is on Frontline to prevent fleas and ticks, clean, does not have doggie odor, is an inside dog, and is potty trained to go outside. We always pick up after her. She is crate-trained, however we don't keep her in the crate for more than 2 hours, so basically she is with us all the time. hana


You might try the Redwoods in Wawona a few miles inside the South Gate. Rustic but serviceable. You have to schlep down into the valley each day, but we didn't find it that much of a hassle. Website indicates that some of their cabin owners allow pets. Check them out at http://www.redwoodsinyosemite.com/ norm
I don't have a recommendation but I would like to remind you that in Yosemite dogs are not allowed on hiking trails (not even on a leash). Are you really sure you want to take your dog to Yosemite? You would either have to leave him in your room/cabin or stay on the road and the parking lots if you take him with you. Ina

Snow play and skiing in Yosemite

Feb 2003

We would like info and recommendations about snow play in Yosemite. Recommendations already posted are mainly for Lake Tahoe. Specifically info about snowboarding, sledding, skiing and snow shoeing. Where, costs, equipment, tips, etc? All for beginners. We will be there for 3 weeknights in February. Thanks


There is only one ski/snowboard place in Yosemite and that is the Badger Pass Resort up near Wawona and Glacier Point (off of Highway 41 about a 45 minute drive from the valley in the winter). It's quite lovely there and if you like cross country skiing or snow shoeing they also groom the Glacier Point road which is closed to cars in the winter. I'm not sure about sledding spots, but I'm sure you'll find some once you get there.

If you're staying in Yosemite Valley, you can take a free shuttle bus from the valley to Glacier Point. I think it leaves hourly. It's nice to relax and look at the scenery and it definitely cuts down on traffic on the narrow, sometimes icy road.

In the valley, definitely check out the ice skating rink in Curry Village. It's open in the day time and evening. A great place to enjoy the views of the valley rim. There is a nice bonfire area at the ice rink and they sell hot cocoa. Enjoy! candace


Badger Pass has everything you're looking for. Joan
Our family of five just got back from skiing at Yosemite last weekend. Badger Pass is great for beginners, with no lift lines and few ''hot shots'' terrorizing the newbies. There's a tubing hill that's new this year and also cross-country skiing and snowshoe walks which are fun and easy to do. Everything is located at the Badger Pass site. You have to rent the Badger Pass tubes to use the hill, which has a little tow rope that pulls you back to the top. I did see people walking by with plastic sleds and disks but don't know where they were using them.

We came up Hwy 140 into the valley, and there was no snow along the way. It was a great drive, actually. Once we hit the valley there was patchy snow on the valley floor, but it hadn't snowed since December and although beautiful, the snow wasn't more than a foot or two deep at the very most. Up at Badger Pass skiing was ''spring conditions''--again, no snow since December, icy in the morning and slushy in the afternoon. Still, there was enough to keep us amused, and my kids, who are proficient skiers, enjoyed themselves even though the resort is so small. I felt totally safe letting them ski the hill, as you can see pretty much the whole mountain from the day lodge. My husband skiied with my youngest, who's 8 and the most proficient of the bunch; he ran his first NASTAR race course. As I said, it's a great learning hill, whatever your level.

If you're staying in the valley, the shuttle bus to Badger Pass is free and takes about half an hour in good weather with clear road conditions. It was great not having to worry about the drive to and from the ski area. Also, a ski desk located just inside the Yosemite Lodge lets you get your rentals and buy lift tickets the night before--they fit your boots and then transmit all the info to Badger Pass, so when you get to the ski area in the morning, you just walk in the exit of the rental area and your skis, snowboards, boots and poles are all set out and waiting for you. This was an awesome service, but they may only have it on weekends, so check. In the valley itself the snow is scant but there's enough to tramp around in and make (icy) snowballs. Plus, you get world-class scenery.

One caveat about Yosemite in winter--we discovered that all the food services tended to close a good deal before their stated hours. And the cheaper the food, the earlier the place closed. At 7:35 on a Friday night after driving up all afternoon, our options were the Mountain Room and the Ahwahnee. We chose the Mountain Room as it was cheaper but dinner was still 100.00 for a family of five, and that was with kids' menus. You can eat in the bar of the Ahwahnee but there are no kids menus there and a turkey sandwich is 15.00. I kid you not. Bring your own food if you can. There's a reasonably well stocked grocery store in the valley, too.

Enjoy your trip. Hope it snows some this week for you. Beth


Yosemite is great in the winter. We were there last weekend with kids each age from 2-9. Badger Pass is the ski area. There is a free shuttle from the valley. At the pass there are rentals of snow shoes, cross country skiis and downhill skiis and snowboards. Lift tickets are reasonably priced (I forget how much because I didn't ski). Cross country ski trails are free and very nice, some groomed some not. There is also an inner tubing hill for $9 a tube which was great fun with our 2 and 3 year olds. In the valley there is a beuatiful ice scating rink and enough snow(or there was a week ago) to play with a saucer and make a snow fort and snow people. And of course-it's so beautiful there. Have a great time. Rebekah
Badger Pass is set up to be your winter play center from the valley floor. Check out their web site: http://www.yosemitepark.com/html/badgerpass.html You didn't mention crosscountry but it is some of the most beautiful in the world. Robert
Yosemite Valley is at ~4000 feet so snow doesn't usually stay - you have to climb out of the Valley in order to get to snow. But nothing is easier than skiing in Yosemite in the winter -you can just stay in Yosemite valley and can take (free?) shuttles back & forth to the Badger Pass Resort(~45 minutes away). Badger Pass has downhill of all varieties, cross-country track skiing and rentals for everything. Badger is generally thought to be a beginning/intermediate resort and it caters to families. Look at the Yosemite National Parks Concessionaire's website for details on pricing.

You can rent equipment either in the valley or up at Badger Pass. I don't know about snowshoes but I would guess you can rent them too. If you were driving, you could cross-country or snowshoe out of Crane Flat.

It is extremely beautiful and peaceful in Yosemite in the winter. I recommend it highly.


The Yosemite Park website has information on snow activities. There is skiing,snowboarding, and snowtubing (their tubes, for a price) at Badger Pass. No charge for cross country if you have your own equipment, but other activities cost. There is no where to sled near Badger Pass, but there is a snow play area along the road between Crane Flats (near the entrance from Highway 120) and Yosemite Valley. One year when we were staying near the Highway 41 entrance we walked a short way along the (snow covered) road to the Mariposa grove and found a place to sled. Signed: Cynthia

Tenaya Lodge - Yosemite

Feb 2003

My kids want to go play in the snow and I don't want to deal with the Tahoe traffic. I'm curious if anyone has stayed at the Tenaya Lodge near Yosemite and has any feedback. Is it a long drive? Is Lodge nice? Thanks, Jennifer


If you can afford the lodge (they sometimes have discounts for $99/night, but generally it's double that) then Yes, it's really nice - indoor pool, excellent restaurant, just a couple miles from Yosemite's south entrance (though about 45 minutes from the Valley). It's about a 4 hour drive from the Bay Area, not counting stops. - Vern
I stayed there about 6 years ago -- in the summer. I didn't like it very much. It is south of Yosemite and so it is a longer drive than if you stay at one of the facilities in the valley. I believe it was also very expensive. My mom and I felt like it wasn't the best choice out there. I'd try to stay in the Valley and take the half hourish drive to Badger Pass -- which is a beautiful place to enjoy the snow in Yosemite. Have fun. anon
We visited Tenaya Lodge about 18 months ago. I think the drive was ok, but don't think we'd go back -- it was a little too Holiday Inn-ish for our taste. There are video games in the room which our children were badgering us to play (vs. playing in the snow). There is a nice indoor pool. They also send you a LOT of mail (electronic and postal) soliciting a return visit. -- a mom
Tenaya Lodge is a very nice facility. The only drawback to staying there is that it is about an hour drive to get to the valley floor. So if your plan is to go to the activites down in that region Tenaya Lodge is not the place to stay. Better to rent a place nearer to the valley if that's where you plan to spend your time. If not then go for it, I am sure you'll enjoy it. Juliette

Heated cabins at Curry Village

July 2002

Has anyone stayed in the heated cabins in Yosemite's Curry Village during the winter? Can you recommend them or no? Also, we are thinking of renting a camper this summer for a long trip out to the Midwest. Does anyone out there know of a company that rents campers (preferably camper vans) for longer trips? We saw one company that rents VW Westphalia vans, but they were expensive in our opinion (a little more than $700/week). Maybe someone out there on the list has a camper they'd like to rent? Thanks! Linda


We stayed in the heated cabins at Curry Village in Yosemite with our 4 yr old daughter last February for the tail end of winter. It was great to not be in a hotel and have to be concerned about noise. The cabin was comfortable, if basic, and a big plus for her was the ice rink nearby. The only drawback we found was getting decent food - the food served nearby is pretty dreary fare thats been sitting under heat lamps for hours, or hot dogs fresh out of the microwave. Because of the bears you cannot leave any food at all in your car if it is unattended - they will smash the windows to get to an empty bag of goldfish crackers. So, your best bet is stocking up on snacks and keeping them in your cabin, in a cooler, even though you are not officially supposed to keep food there either. They need Alice Waters to do something about their food offerings. Also, keep in mind that it can be a long slippery hike between cabin and car. Our daughter loved taking the shuttle bus all around the valley - we got off at every stop! kristin
We spend 4 wonderful days in Yosemite during the Christmas vacation. We rented a cabin without bath at Curry Village for the first night and moved to a cabin with bath for the remaining two nights. I made reservations in October for the Christmas vacation and there wasn't much to choose from. I had to be very flexible for the dates...

If you have children, I recommend the cabins with bath. Very convenient when the kids play in the snow all day and need a warm bath to calm down. Also, you don't have to go out to the public bathrooms in the middle of the night. Those cabins are well heated. We had to turn the heat down and open the windows! Curry Village has a cafeteria open during major holidays. The food is good, but it can be a little bit expensive. For 2 adults and 2 children (our son didn't have to pay because he was under 4 years old) expect to pay around $25 for breakfast and $32 for dinner. Bring a cooler and plan your breakfast and lunch if possible. Saves you money. The store has some sandwiches and other goodies, but here again, nothing is cheap.

As for activities, depending if you have children or not and depending their age, you can have fun what ever you do. Of course, you have to go and see the falls. You can rent skates at the Curry Village rink ($3.50) and the admission is $6.50 for adults and $5 for kids. If you want to slide, bring a toboggan or a sled. There is a great spot at the exit of the park on road 120. You can go and ski at Badger pass. But the winning activity for us was...making a snowman! Free and fun!

Check the park's web site at www.yosemitepark.com. You can make on-line reservations and check what is available. As for us, we're already planning for next year... Isabelle


We stayed in the heated cabins in Curry Village in Yosemite this past December. The cabins are small and spartan, but they are warm. The heater in the cabin was blasting when we first arrived, it was great to walk in to a nice, warm cabin. We had a great time. Don't know if there's still snow there, but there was lots of it while we were there, and it snowed twice during our 4-day stay. It was beautiful. We brought our saucers and plastic sleds, and found a sled run within a 5-minute walk from our cabin (saw some other people using it). We went ice skating at the outdoor rink, built snowmen, tromped through snow-covered meadows, hiked to some of the falls, and took the shuttle-bus to the Awahnee for hot chocolate. It was great. The only downside in the winter are the limited food options. Not all of the restaurants are open in the winter. The dining hall at Curry Village itself only offers an all-you-can-eat buffet during the evening dining hours, which we found to be over-priced and not very good food. We preferred going over to the Food Court at Yosemite Lodge, where there was also a ranger program offered in the evenings (history of Yosemite, etc.) colleen

Where to Stay

Merry 10/99
Any recommendations for a reasonable place near enough to visit Yosemite for a few nights between Christmas and New Years? We have an 8 year old and 11 year old. Yosemite accommodations are sold out, though the lodge where the women were murdered is still available, I couldn't bear it. Thanks,
Wendy
We stayed at the Apple Tree Inn, just a few minutes south of the south gate of Yosemite last November and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was family friendly with family suites, swimming pool and complimentary buffet breakfast. There are two or three units per building, so you feel like you're in a cottage in the woods. It's newly and tastefully constructed and decorated and the price was reasonable, although we were there off-season. There is a fireplace in each room, which was quaint and pleasant, even though they were gas-burning instead of wood-burning. They are in Fish Camp on Highway 41 and the phone number is 1-888-683-5111.
Myriam
We got reservations at The Redwoods: My husband stayed there on a ski trip this past year and apparently they are beautiful ski-type cottages. We plan to eat thanksgiving dinner at the tenaya lodge, which also has some lodging. You can look at the Redwoods web page at: http://www.yosemite.com/http/business/yos0005.htm and Tenaya Lodge at: http://www.tenayalodge.com

I don't know about Christmas, but we were able to get Thanksgiving reservations as recently as two weeks ago.


From: Margo (2/99)
I've been to Yosemite off and on the last 25 years and have never had to get reservations outside the park. The trick I've learned over the years is not to write it off even around the businest times. I've learned that many people tend to cancel reservations the closer it gets to the time they have to be there. I like the Lodge and the Curry Camp ground cabins, they're very nice. Try calling them about 2 1/2 weeks before the time you want and ask for any cancellations. And then keep calling everyday after that.
From: Debbie (2/99)

We've stayed several times at The Redwoods, a group of rental cottages in Wawona at the Southern end of the park (near the Wawona Hotel). It has always worked out very well for us. The prices seem reasonable (many between $120-$150 per night) considering that you get a fully furnished cottage with a bedroom or two, fireplace with firewood, fully equipped kitchen and at least one bathroom. While you might get a motel room cheaper, you save on food, so we figure it works out close to even. It's great for us with the kids (2 and 4) since we can take nice nature walks right the front door! The Chilnualna Falls trail starts there, and climbs up along a lovely waterfall and creek valley. There's also a small store there in case you forget anything, and while it's a bit pricey, they cater to the whims and palates of Bay Area tourists.

Wawona is about a half-hour drive from the Valley, but frankly, every time we try driving there, the kids aremore interested in the sticks and bugs at their feet than the stunning views of Half Dome. Oh well, maybe in a few more years... ; )

You can The Redwoods on the web at http://www.redwoodsguestcottages.com

Take the train to Yosemite!

From: Holliday

A few years back my daughter and I took a weekend trip to Yosemite in winter. We boarded Amtrak in Emeryville and rode the train to Merced. From Merced a cushy tour bus takes you up to Yosemite. We had great fun playing in the snow, visiting various parts of the park, and ice skating outdoors was really fun, too. Call the park for info.


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