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Camping with no bears

May 2009

I love camping with my family, but very uncomfortable with the idea of sharing the campsite with bears. Is there a place in Northern California that does not have that problem, or where bear are kept under control? I know, they don't hurt, must keep your food away, etc... but still would rather not wake up in the middle of the night with a gigantic bear sniffing my head (from the outside of the tent) as it happened last time. So please don't tell me what to do in the event it happens, or that camping is not for me. I was raised in the Italian Alps and camping with my kids is what I love the most. Thank you. Susanna


Try the Coast Camp site at Point Reyes National Seashore--a lovely 1-mile backpack even doable for young kids and right on the sea--bear free and a beautiful spot. If your kids are older and can do a more challenging longer backpack in, Wildcat Camp at Point Reyes is stunning. Happy Camper
I've camped all over Northern California with nary a bear sighting (even in Yosemite, though I've never camped in the Valley). I would suggest the Coastal Mountain ranges -- there are apparently some bears in the northern stretch, but not many. The campgrounds don't even have the secure bear lockers like Yosemite.

So -- Henry Cowell or Portola Redwoods near Santa Cruz, Salt Point in Sonoma County, farther north to Mendocino or Humboldt Counties.

Or you could try the Eastern Sierras around Mammoth.

IMO bears are only a problem in campsites that are heavily frequented by humans. More remote campsites are probably less likely to be visited, simply because there aren't as many people throwing food scraps around there. Erin


Just pick a campsite that is not even in bear territory--like anywhere along the coast, Napa/Sonoma, or outlying Bay Area like Sunol Regional Park. never been bothered by a bear
You'd have to research it to be sure I'm correct, but I would think camping along the coast would solve this problem. I have camped in Santa Cruz and Morro Bay and haven't worried about bears. California has a ton of coastal camping, as does Oregon. Bears Freak Me Out , Too

Camping 1-2 hours from East Bay

April 2009

Hello, I am looking for a camp ground recommendation no farther than 1 to 2 hours from the East Bay. It will be the first time camping with four kids ranging from 2 - 5 yrs old. So, any advice is also welcome. We'd love to stay 2 nights and would like a camp ground that offers car camping AND feels semi-private. Quiet, starry nights. We also would love to be able to access some points of interest either from the site or very nearby -- redwood trees, river, lake, trails, hot springs, etc... Thanks! Jill


Our family loves camping at Henry Cowell Redwoods in the Santa Cruz mountains. The campsites are large and some are quite private (the ones on the outer perimeter offer more privacy than the campsites in the middle). There are hiking trails, redwoods, and a shallow river to splash and play in. You're also right near the roaring camp railroad - taking the train to the beach at Santa Cruz is fun for the kids. (Or it's a quick drive to the beach if you want a break from the moutains). You also have good food options in the nearby town of Felton if you don't feel like cooking every night that you're camping. We've had many fun trips there over the years - it's a good family oriented campground and not too long a drive.
Try Lake Del Valle in Livermore http://www.ebparks.org/parks/del_valle peter
Try Spring Lake in Santa Rosa. The camp sight is not too big and it is right up against a lake that you can swim at. This was the first place we went camping with kids. anon
When my children were younger we camped many times at Cassini Family Ranch in Duncans Mills. It is on the Russian River just a few miles from the ocean, and there is Armstrong Redwood park nearby. It is mostly families and it is nice and clean. Only some of the sites are somewhat private, but you reserve the site you want ahead of time. Ellen
We live in Oakland and we had a great time with our son camping at San Mateo County Memorial Park. It has redwoods and creeks, and it's very peaceful, located just there on the peninsula a 2-hour drive away. The other campers were very mellow and it was definitely NOT a rowdy-drinking-loud music type of park. The best thing about it is that its' first-come-first-served, so as a local you have a real advantage of arriving nice and early and picking your favorite camping spot. We'd definitely go back. Lisa T

Where to go camping with my 14-y-o son?

June 2007

I've promised to take my 14-year-old son camping this summer, though it's something our family hasn't done since before he was born. It will be the two of us and one of his friends. I'd like suggestions for somewhere to go that will satisfy both of us. He didn't like the campgrounds I suggested, because they were too big. He'd like to feel like we're living in nature, and he's more into the experience of sleeping in a tent and cooking outdoors than he's into the destination or the scenery. I have some mobility limitations and can't backpack anymore, but a short walk -- yards not miles -- from a parking space may work. We'd like to avoid campgrounds that attract parties or other noisy groups (e.g. lots of slamming RV doors or people up at the crack of dawn to go fishing) and places that would make us feel unsafe. We can do without showers, but I prefer piped water. Northern or Central California would be good, but we could drive a little further. We'd prefer cooler rather than hot weather. And we'll need something that will be available for 3-5 nights sometime in mid-summer; weeknights are ok. Can anyone recommend specific campgrounds or destinations? Thanks!


I would recommend that you take a look at the book ''Easy Camping in Northern California: 100 Places Anyone Can Camp This Weekend'' by Tom Stienstra It's an informative book, and I know you'll find what you are looking for inside its pages. My family has used this book for the past few years and the author's recommendations are spot-on. Good luck and have fun.
Big Sur would be a good option to camp. It has everything you asked for, like scenic, location(you asked for central or northern california), campground to put tents and cook outside. It also has camping cabins in case you change your mind :) There are many scenic trails to keep you busy at daytime. You have to make reservations way ahead of your vacation time, because it is always booked. Happy Camping!! adit
Good on you! We LOVE to camp and hope our kids grow to share the love.

Close by, I recommend Butano and Big Basin State Parks - their campsites have a good amount of space which can give you that good deepwoods feel.

We love the Desolation Wilderness area which has two campgrounds - one at Fallen Leaf and one at Wright's Lake. These are beautiful areas with lakes and rivers right in the campground. Family friendly, no crazies.

Any of the national forest campgrounds around the Trinity Alps area would be great too. Even peak summer you can find a spot to drive in without reservations. Like most NF campgrounds, there aren't showers but there are outhouses and piped water at most spots.

I'm interested in the other responses you get! Enjoy. Camper


Hi there, Try Butano State Park. It's gorgeous and very ''back to nature''. It's near Pescadero in the redwoods at the coast. Cool and pretty quiet during the week. It may already be full for the summer but it's worth a try. No showers unfortunately but we had a wonderful time there (plus you can drive down to the ocean and play at the beach). Have fun! Campin' Mama
Yes, I have a suggestion! Try the Lost Coast, the area between Ft. Bragg and Eureka. It's a good 5 hr drive from here, but it just gorgeous. I stayed in the Nadelos campground, which is a very short walk from Wailaki. Nadelos has 8 sites, Wailaki 13, but when I was there, only 3 sites in all were taken. I was able to get a rather secluded site all to myself + 2 dogs. There is a vault toilet and potable water, but that's all for amenities (plus picnic table & fire ring at each site). http://www.redwoodvisitor.org/showrecord.asp?id=523

There are other sites in the King Range as well, and it's cheap as heck. From the campsites, you can hike up to the trail that gives you a fantastic view. It is more cool than hot and the coastline itself can get fogged in easily. I also drove down to Shelter Cove, which was charming (but dangerous for swimming). On the way back, saw a small group of people by the side of the road. It turned out, they were watching 3 elegant elk in the field by the road. An unforgettable trip. Jennie


Campground near a warm river

April 2007

We're looking to find a campground near a warm river this summer. I've heard good things about Trinity and Yuba rivers, but would love specific campground recommendations. We just want to be inland, in warm weather, near water. Oh, and flush toilets are a must. Leaving summer fog behind


We've stayed at the Ripple Creek cabins (small trib to the Trinity)- they have a website, so it's not camping, but it has everything else you wanted. The place is owned by a Bay Area couple who are very friendly-- there is a local number to call if you want to get info that way-- 510-531-5315. They have a swimming hole adjacent to the cabins on the Trinity which is divine in the hot summer weather. They book up VERY EARLY as families tend to go year after year and stay in their favorite cabin, so I would advise inquiring early if you are interested. anon
I can recommend Wellspring Renewal Center for river camping. It is a beautiful place, with 50 acres along the Navarro River in Anderson Valley, about 2 1/2 hours north of the Bay Area. There is a great swimming hole on the property. They offer camping, tent cabins, rustic cabins, and houses for lodging, and can accommodate groups or individuals. They offer fresh, mostly organic food by arrangement for groups. See their website for more information: www.wellspringrenewal.org Sally

Car Camping in the Sierras on a Lake

March 2006

What is your favorite sierra campground on a lake? I'm looking for a car camping spot that is right on a beautiful Alpine lake and that allows swimming and doesn't have a lot of motorized boats or hoardes of people. Also, other suggestions of favorite camping spots with kids are welcome! Happy camper


Huntington Lake above Fresno is loveley. It seems more popular with sailboaters than motor boaters and according to an archived post water skiing and jet skis are banned. There are I think four different campgrounds around the lake, a swimming beach, a store, etc. It's not primitive or isolated, but I wouldn't descibe it as overrun, even during the big sailing event that brought me up there. Carrie
Pincrest Lake off of Hwy 108 is a nice place. You can book through the state park systems's website and it's reasonable (about $25/night). There's a small store in town and you can fish, boat, hike and at night you can watch movies under the stars! I've been there before and highly recommend Pinecrest. Laura
Pinecrest Lake is fabulous. 3 mile trail around lake (not stroller friendly); ice cream shack at the end of the hike for bribery; outdoor movie ampitheatre showing movies like Shrek; small grocery store; lake and swimming although no lifeguard; can rent small motor boats and paddle boats and sailboats; nice bike trails (although hilly in some areas). Our family loves it. Enjoy! Chanel
Wright's Lake! Used to be our family's best-kept secret, but in the last 10 years or so has become pretty popular. You'll need to get reservations in advance. http://www.reserveusa.com/jsp/commonpage.jsp?goto=/nrrs/ca/wrig/newindex.html

Just up Highway 50 about 45 minutes east of Placerville. Bring your canoe though, no motorized boats allowed.

Alternately, nearby is Silver Fork campground. NO reservations are taken and it's getting popular too but not nearly the magnitude that Wright's Lake is. It's off of the American River in the Sierras....not on a lake, but lots of hiking trails and slow parts of the river to play in. email me if you want more information. Happy Camping! http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/documents/rogs/rog_pvl_silverfork.pdf
tiffany


Canoe Camping

June 2004

I would like a recommendation for a camping spot for this summer that has a lake so that we can go canoeing (we don't have our canoe yet, just hopeful, have one to sell?) and swimming. We have a 2.5 year old and are meeting up with 2 more people coming from LA, so therefore, we would like to choose a place between the Bay Area and LA, inland or near coast, either way. (We would also like to get some recommendations for camping spots for canoers anywhere in No. Cal. for future reference.)We are tent campers and like a peaceful place to relax and enjoy. Thanks.... lindsay


Wouldn't necessarily work for this trip, but we had an AMAZING canoe camping experience at Juniper Lake on the east side of Lassen National Park a couple of years ago...wow. We went mid- week and pretty much had the place to ourselves. Easily one of the most fabulous places we've camped, and since they don't allow motorized boats and have no launch ramps, it's pretty much all canoes on the water. That's if there's anyone else on the water, which there usually wasn't....

The water is so blue and clear that people think we've Photoshopped our trip photos. In fact, my only hesitation about recommending it is that I'd hate for too many people to know how amazing a place it is.

There are some dismal warnings on their reservations web site about the road conditions getting in, but we had no problems in my 96 Mercury Sable station wagon (not exactly an offroad vehicle...mind you, the noisy, arrogant jerks in the campground next door got their SUV stuck and had to get a tow out, but that's because, in addition to being jerks, they were also dumb enough to park in the wetland...fortunately we only had to share the campground with them for one night!) I would still call ahead and ask the rangers if there are any road problems getting in with whatever you're driving. Sara


I haven't gone there for a few years (thus pre-baby), but Lake Sonoma - north of Healdsburg - is a good place to go camping and canoeing. Since it's a little drive to get there, we usually reserved a car campsite for the first night, then a boat-in site for the next few days (you can rent canoes there as well). There are some nice wineries along the way, so you can stop along the way for wine tasting too. The lake has a lot of finger-like sections that make it feel more river-like and private, which is nice. The only drawback is that motorized boats can also use the lake (at least until you get to those finger-like areas) so that is a bit annoying. Still, totally worth checking out! Good luck! http://www.spn.usace.army.mil/lakesonoma/camping.htm Anon
We have camped for 7 years (since my younger one was 2) at Lake Eleanor, in the Yosemite Wilderness. It is a dammed lake near Hetch-Hetchy. You can either hike in over the ridge or, as we do, canoe in to several camp sites. You will need to get a permit from the Ranger Station on Rte 120. You also have to portage your canoe 1/4 mile up& down a hill, so having a light load and wheels is a huge help, if not essential. With the appropriate planning, we still have wonderful meals and more than enough of our wordly goods. Each trip has certainly been an adventure-- bears once, canoeing to our site at midnight another time, etc. I think we finally have it right. Once we get to the site, we stay put, canoe, hike, find pristine swimming holes, etc. If you are willing to put in a bit of effort to get to this wonderful place, you will love it and want to go back for more--our kids look forward to it every year. Good luck and happy camping! canoe camping family

Big Basin


June 2007

Re: Rustic rental resort camp for 5 families
Big Basins Redwood State Park is only 2-3 hours away, but feels nice and remote. Has nice campgrounds and also cabins (cabins are minimalist, only contain cots, but useful if you don't have a tent; eating and cooking is outside, like camping). Don't want to drive to the Sierras


Big Basin in Santa Cruz. Poison oak, wooded, creek, drive to beach and boardwalk. Barbara

Bodega Dunes


From: Barbara

Bodega Dunes. Ocean beach, sand dunes.


Bothe

Bothe in Napa. Poison oak, but we spent the time at the pool, so it was OK.

Butano State Park

From: Deborah

A FAVORITE place of ours is Butano State Park, just south of Half Moon Bay and very close to Pescadero. Redwoods and lovely trails. Very good place for children and adults (and even our teenagers love this place). Phipps Ranch is about a mile away -- has small animal farm (pigs, ponies, bunnies, birds, rabbits, goats) to walk through as well as strawberry and ollalieberry fields where you can "pick your own." Small roadside market sells beans and fresh vegetables and local honey


China Camp

From: Barbara

China Camp in San Rafael. Marsh hikes, drive a little way to "private" bay beach and the China Camp museum.


From: Holliday

My husband and I took our niece and daughter to China Camp State Park in Marin County to camp overnight a couple of years ago for a "dry run" before we went to Yosemite. We all loved the place. Campers must walk in which eliminates nearly all of the nuisances generally associated with drive in campgrounds ie. RV's charging generators, loud radios, etc. The facilities were top notch including flush toilets and hot showers that are cleaned regularly. This was a plus for the girls who are pretty fussy about those things. The campsites are spaced generously apart in oak woods. We swam one day in the bay at the China Camp Beach where there are historic buildings and displays about the Chinese Americans who settled there and commercially fished the bay for shrimp. If you are interested in going to the beach, make sure to wear foot coverings because the beach is made up of small stones (great skippers) and are tough on the feet. We saw lots of animal life in the campground after sunset several deer, a gray fox, a family of raccoons, and a skunk. You can make reservations through Mystix.


Death Valley

Nov 2008

I am thinking of going camping in Death Valley this winter (Jan/feb/March) with spouse and 3 year old son. Is this a good idea or bad? If good, any ideas for campsite? Is Furnace creek good...if so what site? What activities should we think of doing? Hiking or biking? Thanks for your help! Sarah


Death Valley is our favorite desert and I have been there many times. When our child was born we purposely stopped going, because the desert experience is about the beauty of silence and that doesn't mesh with young kids. Although we love to go camping several times per year, we were not about to do that with our routine-dependent toddler, chancing her to keep an entire campground awake and us stressed out and embarrassed. So we took her camping since she was 5. Perfect age and we had great camping experiences with her and she developed her own deep connection with nature. At the age of 9 1/2 we thought she had desert maturity and we took her to Death Valley. What a great time we had as a family and as individuals. It was so worth the wait and we created some beautiful memories there!

Let me answer your questions: The nights are very cold in the winter. I have seen countless campers over the years, hanging out in the diner for pure warmth and light after 5pm. I would certainly not go camping there with a toddler before March. Check if they get any snowfall in March. April is better for camping, but too hot in the daytime and because of that you may also encounter scorpios and rattlesnakes looking to cool down & hide in your tent or motel room (told by motel staff who lives there year-round). We prefer to go in December and we usually check into the Stovepipe Motel. Once we splurged and paid for Furnace Creek and it was great too. After playing all day in the desert, I want to be able to clean up and feel comfy at night. Just adds to a better experience. If you have the easy type of kid that goes along with everything you do, count your blessings. If you have a kid with distinct preferences, for the three year old I suggest visiting the sand dunes, Scotty's Castle and walking into artist palette right before sunset to admire colorful rocks. Zabriskie Point is stunning and even nicer to hike down into, but I don't find that suitable for the comprehension and condition of a three year old. He will probably be more interested in walking on the barrier than enjoying the view. Death Valley has great hikes and sites for adults or emerging adults from Mosaic Canyon, Ubehebe Crater, Natural Bridges and more. You could take your toddler to Salt Creek and Bad Water and the Nature Center, but many things will be lost on him. He'll be happier playing with his hot wheels and you could be having the time of your life in this desert without him if you had a relative at home with your son for 3 days. That's my honest take on the situation - but it totally depends on what your expectations are for a trip like that. I love camping in many places, but in Death Valley I want a motel. Heike


Camping in the Grand Tetons

June 2005

Ever since reading about them in a novel, I've wanted to go to the Grand Tetons. I'd like to camp there Summer 2006, maybe for a week. Has anyone done this? Do you have campgrounds to recommend? Other things to know? How much bearproofing do you need to do when you're in a campground? My son is 5 and we love to hike and paddle in our inflatable canoe (Tahiti K). Also, I'd like to do this as cheaply as possible. Thanks! Jennie


We took our 17 month old to Grand Teton NP last July and it was great. We camped at Jenny Lake campground which is really nice and pretty centrally located. According to books we read, it's hard to get a site there but we cruised in on a Tues/Wed? mid-morning and found what we later realized was one of the ''best sites'' in the place, though many were great. It's near a boat launch which crosses Jenny Lake so many hikers stay around there before taking off for overnites. Oh, it's tent only which is much nicer if you are in a tent. Sunrise at the lake was magical. Take the boat across the lake and hike Cascade Canyon-one of our favorite spots on a month long trip through the Northern Rockies. As for bears, they have bear lockers in each site AND they let you keep food locked in your car. We were surprised when they told us we could keep it in our car (we're used to the Sierras where that's a no-no) but I guess it works for them. Have a GREAT time (you will). Teton Lover

Olema Family Campground

From: Lynn

My children and I have spent many a weekend at the Olema Family Campground and have really enjoyed it. It isn't a beautiful, scenic, out of the way place, but it is right next to Pt. Reyes which is. There are hot showers, a playground, small store, and nightly campfire entertainment (stories and singing) right there. A laundromat, another store and deli as well as a great restaurant are all within short walking distance.

They can be reached at (415) 663-8001. They have a web site at www.campgrounds.com/olemaranch.


Olympic National Park

June 2008

I'll be heading to Olympic National Park w/my husband and twin 3.5 year olds. Our plan is to tent-camp 4 nights. I've never been there and would like to get an idea of a good place to stay and things to do (short - 1 hour long hikes). I'm intrigued with the rainforest area, but would love to hear any recommendations about all of the park Nancy


There are good car camping sites in the Hoh Rainforest and at Kalaloch. Both areas have short hikes. The Hoh has a great junior ranger program. Kalaloch is on the beach. We have spent time there every spring since my daughter was about 2 years old; we both love the area very much. Have a great trip! Rita

Pinnacles

July 2003

We'd like to go camping around the Pinnacles in the fall. 1)How's the weather there in Sept.? 2) I've heard the West entrance is more kid-friendly and you can see more without hiking long distances. Do you agree? 3) There's no camping within the parks, but a few campgrounds not far from the park. Any advice re: which campgrounds are nice? We're looking for somewhere quite, with firepits, ideally with toilets/showers, kid-friendly. 4) How long is the drive, from your experience?


www.pinncamp.com is your campground. Their website will tell you which campsites have morning or afternoon shade and you can see on the map how far they are from the showers (pay showers, near the pool) and camp store. PinnCamp does allow dogs, but dogs aren't allowed on Pinnacles trails though so leave your pooch at home. Pinncamp limits your campfires to charcoal and duraflame logs during the fire season to cut down on the chance of a wild fire, so plan your meals and evening time with that in mind. Most sites have a firepit and picnic table but not necessarily a BBQ grill. The sites are mowed weeds, this is NOT a KOA. The creek does not flow, so don't pick you site thinking the kids can play in it. There are wild boars, racoons, deer, quail and hares. The boars are only out at night, I've never had a problem with them but roll up your car windows or you'll have a raccoon inside. As to hiking in the park itself, I see lots of young kids up at the reservoir (no wading or swimming allowed) and that's a decent hike. It can be hot in Sept, plan to take shady breaks and bring full water bottles. There's plenty of Poison Oak so teach your kids how to identify. a rock climber at Pinnacles

Pomo Canyon Environmental Camp

From: Judy

Another camping suggestion (almost car-camping): We camped at the Pomo Canyon Environmental Camp (part of the California State Park system), near the coast and the Russian River, a few weekends ago. There weren't a lot of kids around, but our 3-year old daughter loved it (and so did we!) It's a walk-in campground, which we consider the best of both worlds--almost as convenient as car camping, but much nicer because there are no vehicles in the camping area. (Though you need to pack slightly efficiently if you don't want to walk back and forth a million times to bring in your stuff.) Many, but not all, of the sites are quite private. The drive was a little over 2 hours. (To get there, you turn off of route 1 onto Willow Creek Road, which is just before the Russian River. It's about 3 miles down the road to get to the Pomo Canyon camp.)

Here's the (true) description (found at www.mcn.org/1/rrparks/parks/scsb.htm ): "Pomo Canyon Environmental Camp - $10 per night, $5 day use. 20 campsites with fire rings, picnic tables, pit toilets and running water nearby. Campsites are within 1/4 mile from the parking lot, one is disabled accessible. Camps are set in a beautiful redwood grove among the ferns. A three mile trail to Shell Beach takes off from the campground, crossing seasonal streams and rising up into the grassland with marvelous views of the river and finally the ocean. To protect the wildlife, no dogs are allowed. This campground is not on the reservation system."

We went up early on Friday, arriving at the campground around 3 pm. Of 21 sites, there were only 4 left at that point. Everything was gone by 4 pm. The hike to Shell Beach was also wonderful, but make sure to bring lots of water, and be sure you (and any kids that are walking) know how to identify poison oak. (None of us got poison oak but we definitely had to be aware of where we were walking and what we were touching for large portions of the hike; there was no poison oak in the camp area.)


Van Damm State Park

From: Diane

we went to Van Damm State Park which is near mendocino. It was a really nice camp ground and with lots of hiking. It's also just across the street from the beach. We took our son who had just turned 8.


More places to camp with kids

Two places I like to camp with kids. Its car camping
Del Valle in Livermore
Caswell Memorial state Park in Ripon, CA (1.5 hours from Oakland, right outside of Tracy). Swimming in Stanislaus River, great camping sites, hot showers, just really nice and shady.. Cindy

Places to camp with children and dogs


June 2008

Is there anywhere around here--within a few hours, say--where I can take my dog camping and actually go on trails? There are some places dogs are allowed in campgrounds, but not on trails, which doesn't do me any good. I went to www.dogfriendly.com but it wasn't helpful. Anyone? Dog Owner


Most places along the coast are picky about dogs. We head inland with ours. Most of the Sierra's are dog-friendly. Lake Tahoe is a good one, or any of the national forests. Our favorite areas are along RT 108 in the Sierras (Sonora Pass). LOTS of camping and hiking and it's all dog friendly. If you like car camping, there's Pinecrest Lake. If you want something more private there's lots of that too. Google Sonora Pass camping. OH - and it's not foggy there. Enjoy!
This may be pushing the ''few hours'' mark, as it'll take 4 or so depending on which trailhead you choose, but Mendocino National Forest is my favorite place to camp with the pup. I can't wait until my son is old enough to head back up there. This is not to be confused with Mendocino - it's inland, not too far from Ukiah. You'll need to visit a ranger station to get a campfire permit. You can actually camp in a large campground near one of the ranger stations the first night and then hike out from a trailhead in the morning, as one option. The area we frequent is more pleasant in the spring, but it's a huge park so I'm sure that varies. You can get a detailed trail map at REI. Wherever you end up, please enjoy it a little extra for me! Jealous (and my dog is too)
check out www.bluelakesrental.com . 2 hours from here, springfed lake, not pricey. hiway 20 is across the lake and is a buzz, but we traded that for privacy, dogproof house and hiking nearby, plus the fish are huge and there are a lot of birds.- no power boats- not like the big lake at all. geneandsharona
2001

I'm considering going on a long , 2-4 week camping trip with my 1 year old, 3 year old, and 2 dogs. I'm looking for somthing within maybe 3 hours of the bay area. I'm trying to avoid a typical campground because I would like to be able to let my dogs run around. Any suggestions? Allegra (2001)


Have you seen the website for DogFriendly.com, which gives campgrounds, hotels, and all sorts of travel info. http://www.dogfriendly.com/ Stefanie
If you want to car camp outside of a campground you can camp freely on national forest land. Try some of the dirt roads in the forests. Some need four wheel drive but not usually. Some places I have camped at are: the road to Levitt lake off the top of Sonora pass ( highway 108 in the Sierras). It has a small river which comes out of the lake you can camp along. The lake is beautiful at 11,000 ft but to cold for swimming. Also the road to Virginia Lake on the eastern side of the Sierras off of hwy 395. Here we camped in the trees below the lake along a meandering stream and meadow. You can hike past the lake to the upper valleys and more lakes. People fish in Virginia lake but it's not much for swimming. Another closer place is near Utica Reservoir in Stanislaus National Forest. This is a beautiful setting but more crowded with great swimming and fishing. There are other reservoirs in the immediate area as well ( Union I think). All of these are at least three hours or more from Berkeley. They are all much better for dogs than a campground. Get a Northern California "DeLorme" (spelling?) map from REI. Look for small roads within national forests land, near streams and lakes, go explore. You will need fire permits. Keep it clean. I have also looked for very short backpack trips which I have taken my kids on and know some of those if you are looking to get away from the crowds. Have fun Lynn
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