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I am considering doing an Ericsson sperm sorting to try for a
girl (which requires taking Clomid, too), and I was wondering
about whether anyone has information on long term risks of
Clomid to the baby--is there any higher risk of autism or other
learning delays that anyone has heard of? I saw on one website
about a whole mothers' group with kids with Autism Spectrum
Disorders and the moms had all taken Clomid. Is this just a
coincidence? Also, I have seen a couple posts about Ericsson's
method, but was wondering whether anyone had new information. A
couple of the original labs have been closed down, so I
wondered if there was a reason for this? Has it been shown to
Thanks in advance.
Clomid never worked for me, so I can't address that part of your
question, but I've been looking into gender selection in hopes
of having a girl, too, and concluded that the Ericsson method
wasn't effective enough for me. www.in-gender.com has useful
info in the articles and annecdotal info in the forums. I also
recommend reading ''Chasing the Gender Dream'' by Jennifer Merrill
Saving Up for Microsort
Don't worry! There is no connection between Clomid and autism.
Non-inherited autism is associated with the father's age. An
older woman married to an older man is more likely to take
Clomid. But, it's not the Clomid causing autism; it's the age of
The risk for autism not only increases with paternal age, but
also appears to accelerate. The risk of fathering an autistic
child is 1.5 times as great for fathers in their 30s as it is for
fathers in their teens and twenties. Fathers in their 40s have
five times the risk. Fathers in their 50s have 9 times the risk.
The best solution is obviously for society to encourage women to
marry younger men. And, couples should check for a family
history of autism or schizophrenia before having children.
We used clomid and a method similar to Ericsson with success.
We also wanted increase our chances for having a girl after
having two boys. I was on Clomid for 3 months - finally
successful with the 3rd IUI. My daughter is completely healthy
and was ahead in her development in all ways. I have never
heard anything about a correlation between clomid users and an
increased risk of autism. FYI - we ended up using Dr. Zorn in
Walnut Creek for the sorting (1st two times) and then went to
the sister office in Berkeley (a woman does the sorting there)
for the 3rd. Not sure if either are still in business. Good
Finally pink after two blues!
I tried Clomid, as did many, many twin moms that I know (I
finally got pregnant with injectable hormones), and am not aware
of an autism link. I think the autism link is most likely related
to advanced maternal age - are the women on the site you found
older women who had to turn to fertility treatments in order to
conceive? I didn't have a problem with the one round of Clomid I
did, but several other women I know had reactions that were like
My daughter is a Clomid baby and is not on the Autism Spectrum.
Clomid is a nasty drug. I felt, dreamt and thought about
murdering people while I took it. When I stopped taking Clomid,
these thoughts and feelings stopped. However, I'd take it again
if it meant that I could have my daughter.
I have noticed something that I hope is studied and that is
babies who were conceived with sperm without semen are
significantly more intelligent than average children who are
healthy. When I say significant, the healthy children I know who
were concieved with ''spun'' sperm have minimum IQs of 140 and
some children are topping standard charts.
I also know some parents who have children on the Autism
Spectrum that spun sperm to separate the semen, but did not take
Lucky Mom of Healthy, Smart Daughter
This web site seems to answer your questions really well about
the sperm spinning:
Has anyone had any experience (personal or through friends'
stories) about sperm spinning (Ericcson method) for sex
selection? Did you get the desired sex? Have you heard of
people who didn't? Where did you go to do it? Any experiences
would be helpful-thanks!
Thinking about it
We didn't use the Ericcson method (looked into it and actually
had an appointment with a dr. in Walnut Creek who ''specializes''
in using it - didn't use him) but did the sperm spinning thing
with success! We used Dr. Glenn Zorn in Walnut Creek on La
Casa Via near John Muir who did the actual sorting. This
practice also has an office in Berkeley across from Alta Bates
off Ashby where a woman does the sorting. It took 3 times (3
IUIs) then worked! We wanted a girl and had one - (after two
super boys!) Depending on which gender you are hoping for, you
may want to ask your ob about using Clmid to stimulate
ovulation as well. I was on Clomid too (not for fertility
issues) because my ob said that based on babies that she has
seen born to women on Clomid, more are girls than boys. We
went into the whole thing with an open mind and knew that if we
had another boy, we'd still be thrilled. We did it to balance
our family and we are so glad we did!
It worked for us!
we did the ericsson method with our first child with a doctor on
California street in the city (can't remember his exact name but
he was of asian descent). we researched it and found that it
isn't 100% but does increase your odds for one sex or the other.
Research has found there is no difference in the rate of genetic
issues between those who were born of this method and those who
weren't. It is just basically insemination with a portion of your
husband's semen but the semen itself isn't tagged or changed in
any way. We did end up with the gender we wanted and it went
quite well. We were very happy but, frankly, would have been
happy regardless of the gender of the child...we just wanted to
alter our odds that is all. Anyway, it was great and we were
very happy. It's not for everyone and I can understand people's
concerns or issues with it, but it was a great decision for us.
Our child is healthy, happy, and wonderful. Good luck.
I'm not sure what the Ericcson method is, but I know a little
bit about microsort spinning. I just spoke with a geneticist who
gave me some preliminary info. Microsort's website is
www.microsort.net. Apparently, if you are spinning for a girl,
it is 92% accuarate and 73% accurate for a boy...not sure why
the big difference. Unfortunately, I think the closest lab is in
Southern Ca. I'll have to look up Ericcson and see what that
is...the geneticist hadn't heard of it and said that the ''best''
was microsort....Good luck!
Friends did it. It didn't work. It increases odds but doesn't
even come close to guaranteeing anything.
My husband and I have a son and would love to have a
daughter to complete our family. (We would, of course, be
happy with a healthy child of either sex, but would prefer
to have a daughter for our second and last child.)
It turns out that methods such as Shettles, based on timing,
position of intercourse, etc., don't work. Although the
idea that X-bearing sperm are slower but longer-lived than
Y-bearing sperm is appealing anthropomorphic, it has been
shown in the lab not to be true.
We are interested in sperm-sorting approaches, of which the
most successful seems to be MicroSort
(http://www.microsort.com/). There is a clinic near LA that
does MicroSort, but obviously it's not very convenient to
fly down to LA at the drop of an egg--does anyone know of a
place in the Bay area that uses this (or similar) approach?
There's a an ob/gyn group in Berkeley (near Alta Bates) that
uses a different approach: the woman takes Clomid (a
fertility drug) and the sperm are passed through albumin.
This approach is cheaper and more conveniently located;
unfortunately, the percentage of female births is only 73%
(vs. 94% for MicroSort), and there's an increased chance of
having twins (8%). I don't think we'll try this approach,
but I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has.
Please note: I have read
and was hoping for more up-to-date recommendations.
Wanting a daughter
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I am considering beginning infertility treatment (artificial insemination) for the second time, and this time I would like to have a girl child because our first was a boy. I understand that it is possible to have my husband's sperm sorted for gender selection, and I am wondering if anyone has done this and what they can tell me about the experience. How much did it cost, what sort of success rate do they have as far as matching for the gender you want, and so on. I'm also curious about what kind of reaction you got from friends, family, or others on making the decision to choose
your child's gender, and "family balancing" generally. Finally, can anyone recommend a place that will do it (sort the sperm, that is)? I'd really prefer not to have to switch to a different ob/gyn for the infertility treatment -- I just need to find a place that will sort the sperm for us because my doctor's clinic doesn't do it.
I have friends who had their sperm spun so their 3rd child could be a
boy instead of another girl. I didn't hear this from them directly, but
from our other close friends. But it was no secret that the only reason
they were pregnant again was because this time, Dad really wanted a boy.
I don't think that people generally respond well to it, and if you
decide to do it, I would keep it to yourselves. This couple, whom I
have no doubt found a very good doctor, now have their 3rd girl. In
other words, don't count on it working for you. My opinion on the
issue, which seemed to reflect the general consensus amongst friends, is
that it is distasteful, particularly because you can't count on it. It
can raise questions of how readily the parents will accept the new child
if it didn't turn out to be the gender they were hoping for, or even if
it did. In the case of my friends, I feel a little sorry for the 3rd
girl, because she clearly was intended to be a boy..... But on the
other hand, if they had gotten the boy they so desparately wanted, I
would have felt even more sorry for the boy, since the expectations for
him to be the boy his dad would want him to be would have been
tremendous. Just be careful about "planning" for the "perfect" family.
I'm not sure what business it is of anyones how you plan your family. If
you're worried about what people will think, don't tell them.
I believe there is a doctor who does this in the Oakland/Berkeley area.
Though I do not know his name. A Colleague of my husband's used him.
Although, they went through several very expensive rounds to try
to get a girl, (she miscarried twice, etc.) and got a boy. He is
healthy, but imagine feeling disappointed about having a healthy baby
because your IVF treatment didn't go the direction you wanted it to go?
This procedure only elevates your chances of getting one gender over another by a couple of percentage points. When I related this situation to my doctor, he shook his head and said that you can come close to matching the odds this procedure provides, by performing all the "old wives tale" methods for gender selection (i.e. timing of intercourse, etc). I realize you are doing this for infertility treatment, but based on the experiences of our acquaintances, I would recommend you skip the sperm sorting part and just hope for a healthy baby.
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