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we may be moving to la; my husband has an offer near the getty museum. I don't know what to think- the image I have of LA is polluted, gross, etc. please advise on:places a small family can live on one relatively limited salary (my priorities are safety & cleanliness & being near coffee (who's aren't?)) (my dream local place to live is really near campus) and general liveability. this is a big change and I am nervous. also- I am a stay at home mom and will be for a few more years- can I have a mellow life or will I be driving all of the time. I think I just need a cheering up. thanks! anxious
Now if you head north of the Getty, you end up in the San Fernando Valley, which to me is a little more of the LA stereotype these days in terms of being a flat expanse with more air pollution (and also less expensive to live).
My family is contemplating a move to the Los Angeles area. We are looking in Malibu for housing. How does one go about finding good (comparable to the bay area mentality) preschools and elementary? What resources are out there for finding not only schools but desirable, family-oriented neighborhoods in the vastness of the Los Angeles area? I'm sure this network is a good place to start but I'm not sure, exactly, how to use it wisely. Any suggestions and pointers are deeply appreciated. Thanks
We are moving to Thousand Oaks (about 35 miles NW of LA) in
December with 2 kids ( ages 4 and 2). We dont know anyone in the
area and would appreciate any recommendations, advice, warnings.
Is it a racially/culturally diverse population? What are good
areas near by to live/buy a house in?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry to move, excited about a new adventure
Vaiju
Thousand Oaks is the only large city in what is known as the Conejo Valley. Other ''named'' areas include Newbury Park (actually a part of Thousand Oaks), Westlake Village, Agoura Hills, and Oak Park (actually a part of Agoura Hills). Thousand Oaks is perhaps 120,000 people, the whole valley is perhaps 180,000. Lots of detailed information is available at http://www.toaks.org/default.asp The valley is bordered on one side by the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area. The other side of the Santa Monica Mountains is Malibu, then the Pacific Ocean. If you drive ''up'' the coast (actually West right here), you reach Camarillo, Oxnard, Ventura, and Santa Barbara (about 50 miles away). If you drive ''down'' the coast (actually East), you immediately enter the San Fernando Valley. Burbank/Hollywood is 30 miles, as is Beverly Hills. Downtown LA is perhaps 40 miles, LAX is 45 miles. Inland (actually North) is Simi Valley. Thousand Oaks (actually the whole Conejo Valley) is basically a bedroom community for the entertainment industry, with a bunch of biotech and a little high-tech thrown in. There is a reasonable amount of cultural/ethnic diversity -- not as much as most of the Bay Area, but much more than neighboring Simi Valley. There seems to be a fairly large Indian community, including a large Hindu temple near town. Food diversity is not too great, but is getting better. Lots of Italian, Mexican, and Asian (Chinese, Japanese, and a couple Thai), we finally have decent Indian and Mediteranean. We also finally have a brewpub, but it's the only one for many miles so you can't even get into it. Most people go to the appropriate ethnic areas of San Fernando or Los Angeles for real ethnic food. Los Angeles is an ethnic goldmine, much more so in my opinion than San Francisco or even Berkeley. I went to lunch at an Uzbecki restaurant the other day. There is a huge variety of housing possibilities. Lots of typical suburban housing tracts, new and old, side by side with lakeside communities, horse properties, ranches, and anything in between. Housing is a lot cheaper than the Bay Area, with a lot more variation. There is more emphasis on newer houses, but there are plenty of older neighborhoods. Not always as much character, since most of the houses are originally tracts. The weather is quite a bit warmer than the Bay Area, but with a lot of gradation -- the West end of the valley (Newbury Park) is typically 10 degrees cooler than the East end (Agoura). It's dry and sunny, but not quite as hot as neighboring San Fernando Valley. There are a lot of possibilities for recreation. The Santa Monica Mountains are 10-20 minutes from anywhere in the valley: camping, backpacking, day hikes, rock climbing, mountain biking, you name it. Malibu is 20 minutes away, Ventura is 30, for surfing, scuba, ocean kayaking, or just lazing on the beach. Several of the best beaches in California are less than 30 minutes away. Skiing is 3 hours away, the desert is less than 2. Las Vegas is a 5 hour drive, or a 45 minute flight. Horseback riding is very, very big, as is golf. There's not much in the way of nightlife. Limited music scene, no clubs or anything like that. Hollywood club district is 40 minutes away. There's not much in the way of cultural events. The Thousand Oaks Civic Arts Center has a couple of small auditoriums, which host smaller concerts. No real museums, no arts scene. For real arts exposure or theater, Los Angeles has a ton, and most of it is less than an hour away (Getty, LACMA, etc). Open Space is a big deal, much bigger than the Bay Area. It is central to all discussions of politics, planning, development, etc. The people who live here do not want it to become an extension of the San Fernando Valley, and they have the clout to make it stick. Conejo Valley schools are supposed to be great. Two districts, Las Virgenes and Oak Park, are supposed to be among the best in the country. The place is littered with ''Presidential Blue Ribbon'' schools. The popular phrase is that people move here from Los Angeles or the San Fernando Valley and take their kids out of private schools to get them into the local public schools. I can't really vouch for the truth of this, but it's a popular topic of conversation. There's certainly a lot of money available, and some serious big names: Heather Locklear, Erin Brockovitch, Wayne Gretsky, etc. Big differences from Northern California: lots more movie theaters, most restaurants have outside seating, warmer, drier, high-tech is an after-thought. I have not found traffic to be any worse than the Bay Area, in fact in most cases it is better. There are a few exceptions, but they are generally avoidable. Everything in SoCal is spread out much more, people do a lot more driving to get to places. You'll encounter celebrities you actually recognize when you go out to dinner. LAX is a WAY better airport than SFO. As far as where to live, there are a lot of options, depending on what you want and how much you want to pay. Do you want a new house or an older one? Large lot or small? Middle of town, outskirts, or even rural? Want to live downtown, or have a horse trail instead of a sidewalk? You could even live in the city (West LA, Sunset, Santa Monica) and drive a reverse commute. For new, fairly upscale homes, lots of open space and a little far from town, fairly cool, there's Dos Vientos (lots of info on the web). Not quite as new but still very recent, less expensive, less open space, warmer, is Oak Park. Nice homes in older neighborhoods, less expensive, warmer is Agoura Hills. Large lots, horse properties, older, less expensive is Old Agoura (warmer) or Lynn Ranch (cooler). Very rural, multi-acre lots, older houses, more expensive is Mulholland, less expensive is Moorpark. Middle expensive, beautiful houses near or on the lake, Westlake Village. Very expensive, new or older homes, beautiful custom architecture, snazzy neighborhoods, potentially on the golf course, North Ranch. Want to live on the beach? You can pay millions in Malibu or get a more reasonable place up the coast in Oxnard. A few fun (sort of touristy) things to do after you move here: - California Poppy Preserve (Antelope Valley, in the desert) - Getty (gardens are ok for small kids) - LACMA (usually some good kid-friendly exhibits) - Brea Tar Pits - VIP tour of Warner Bros Studio (the best studio tour) (not for kids) - see a taping of a sitcom (doesn't matter which one) (not for small kids) - the beaches (start at Malibu Creek and work your way up) - Hollywood walk of stars / Mann's Chinese Theater / Kodak Theater - Beverly Hills shopping district (Rodeo drive) - Sunday tea at the Beverly Hills Hotel (not for small kids) - Joshua Tree, Death Valley (not a day trip) - LA Zoo (huge, easy to get to, hot in the summer, crowded) - Santa Barbara Zoo (small, easy to get to, much cooler, less crowded) - EATM (America's Teaching Zoo, at Moorpark community college) - Santa Monica Boardwalk - Santa Monica Third Street Promenade - Venice Beach Boardwalk (tacky, but you gotta do it)forwarded from a friend, still glad I live in Northern California
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