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Refinishing cabinets and baseboards
Jan 2013
Here is my dilemma. Our clear-finished maple kitchen
cabinets (approx 17 years old) are both mucked up and
somewhat water damaged. They are looking tired and
declining. It seems like they should be in better shape
than they are, but they're not. We had a painter look at
them for a sanding and refinishing estimate but he said
that, in many cases, the water damage was too deep for that
to be an effective strategy. We had a furniture cabinet
refinisher look at them who quoted over $15,000 for the job.
At the same time, we need our flimsy floor kicks (thin
veneer bender board installed at the same time as the
cabinets) and perhaps our wood floors refinished.
Who to call (painter, carpenter, and floor refinisher or is
there someone who could do all of this?),and what service to
ask for? Maybe replacing all cabinet doors (and drawers?)
but not the cabinets themselves? Is there one firm that
would do all of this work?
I've been stymied by this for a while; I'm interested in
ideas and suggestions.
Thanks.
Anon
Josue Landa (jbpainting001@yahoo.com) does this kind of
work. We used them to paint our windows, but he also
provided a quote for us to do almost the same work you need.
We decided not to move forward with the project at all, but
he does this kind of work. We hired Josue, based on a
recommendation from friends. anon
Dec 2011
My kitchen cabinets are dark wood and look dated. I would
like them painted white and I would like new handles. Has
any one hired someone to do this?It sounds like the prep
work is important so I do not want to just hire any one. I
am also not sure what is a reasonable price for this. Thanks
Hello- If all you need is your cabinets painted (no new
doors, drawers, hinges, etc) then contact Davila's Finishing
(www.davilasfinishing.com) for an estimate. They specialize
in cabinet/furniture finishing only. I use them for my
cabinet refacing projects as needed. They also do the
finishing for my friends' custom cabinet shop (Shaw's
Cabinetry www.shawcabinetry.com). Good luck in your search,
Dave
Kitchen cabinets can be a bit of a chore when you get right
down to it. Cleaning grease and dirt, then primer plus two
finish coats is typical. I always use Roland DelaTorre of
Thousand Oaks Painting for my projects. Born and raised in
Albany, he offers a good price and top quality workmanship
every time. His number is : (510) 205-2552. Call him, you
will be glad you did. Bruce
I don't have a name, but prep, prep and prep! We had a
painter come who didn't and now 4 years later the paint
peels off at the drop of a pin. Sheesh! The problem is that
the old paint is not very grippy/porous, plus there is
usually a layer of old cooking oil accumulated...so.. JM
Marco Florian, is a great painter and handyman. He has done
numerous painting jobs in our home and properties as well.
He did a great job painint some furniture we wanted to have
an antique look. He has other great skils as well like
plumbing,tiling,carpentry, etc. He has also experience
remodeling bathrooms and kitchens. He can work on weekends
or evenings if needed; Marco always goes the extra mile and
his rates are very reasonable. He is reliable, polite,
creative, good nature man. You can reach Marco directly at
510-301-5629 or marco.a.florian@gmail.com Ana
Gate View Painting repaired the peeling paint and rusting
nails on the side of my house last week quickly and with
great attention to detail. I'm sure they would prep your
cabinets well. Call Jim for an estimate 510-620-0164. They
do great work!
http://www.gateviewpainting.com/
Michele
Hi,
I had my kitchen cabinets painted last year and I can
recommend my painter unreservedly. His name is Ulises
Vasquez, and you can reach him at (408) 489-4433. Despite
the phone number, he's located in Berkeley.
Ulises worked with a carpenter to add trim to my 1970's era
cabinets and paint them (instead of me ripping them out and
replacing them). I worried that this would end up looking
very 'homemade', but it looks amazing. You would think the
cabinets came new from the factory after they were finished.
I have a new kitchen. If you contact him he can show you
before and after photos.
Ulises used a multi-step process including sanding and
painting multiple times. He used a spray system that
created a perfect finish.
He's always been reliable, on time, and his prices are very
reasonable. He is attentive to small details, which makes a
big difference in the look of the work. I've used Ulises
for four projects now, and every time I'm thrilled with the
results. Allison
Jan 2011
We're looking to do a relatively quick and inexpensive
refurbish of our kitchen to make it tolerable until we can
afford an overhaul. As a result, we'd like to keep the
existing cabinets as they are but update the color. We
would like to either have them restained or painted. Does
anyone have a recommendation of someone who can do this job
well and at a reasonable price? Older posts on BPN focus on
refacing, but we do not want to replace anything, assuming
that would be more pricey? Thank you so much! anon
Repainting cabinets, doors and drawer fronts is a very good
way to freshen up a kitchen. The secret is in today's
primers. They are so good that the old nemesis of chipping
& peeling paint is history. After a lot of experience
repainting cabinets I definitely recommend spraying the
doors and drawers, preferably outside to avoid over spray,
fumes, etc. I have painted everything from 60 year old
doors with multiple paint layers to cheap 80's condo
cabinets, all with remarkable success.If you are reasonably
DIY adept you can rent a sprayer from a paint store for a
weekend or borrow one from someone like me. Sometimes I
work alongside the homeowner to save some money. Jim
Hi,
We just had this done this summer and we also added trim to
the existing flat-front cabinet doors. I could not be
happier with our painter, Ulises. He was incredibly
attentive to detail and did an amazing job. After sanding,
patching and priming, each coat of paint was sprayed on and
lightly sanded. It looks like we have new cabinets. The
contact information is Ulises Vasquez, USV Painting (408)
489-4433. Contrary to the cell number, he's actually
located in Berkeley. Good luck! Allison
Hi,
I recommend Athens Painting Co. (510) 637-8973 if you are
looking for beautiful results. I love the way my kitchen
cabinets look now! They were very professional and neat. I
get a lot of compliments and I am very happy I went with
them. Sophie
I can recommend Antonio Chavarria at De Colores Painting
(Cell: 510-390- 2307). A couple of years ago my wife and I
were planning a kitchen facelift, but didnt want to remove
the original 1940's cabinets which were still good. There's
a lot of them and I knew it wasn't going to be easy to
clean/sand/patch/prep the kitchen. After talking with
Antonio I knew he was the best I had spoken to in the hunt
for a skilled but reasonably priced painting company. They
set up a full spray booth in the garage and after lots of
prepping sprayed a nice new surface on all the draws and
doors. They also painted the built-in parts,walls and
ceilling which still look great. After the first coat was
up, we CHANGED OUR MINDS ABOUT THE COLOR! No problem for
Antonio, I bought the new paint and he finished the job with
all the extra work on budget. They had to put in more hours
than estimated but he gladly held to the bid. Nice person to
work with. He's the guy I call first for any future
painting around here. Peter and Diane
Sept 2006
my husband and i are thinking of installing kitchen cabinets
ourselves in an attempt to save money.We absolutely do not have
a clue on how to go about this.We are starting to read up on it
but thought it will help to talk to someone who has done this
before. Any recommendations as to where to get the cabinets,a
must have tool or is this something we should leave to the
professionals.Any helpful tips will be much appreciated.thanx
We remodeled our kitchen in Oakland ourselves with no prior experience: this
included tearing out the skanky old cabinets and installing new ones. We bought
cabinets from Ikea and they come flat-packed in kits with everything you need.
Most inexpensive cabinets like these come in certain sizes: 24'' deep for lower cabs,
12'' deep for upper cabs, and then each cabinet comes in widths of 15'', 18'', 21'',
24'', 30'' or 36''. The key is to see what widths are offered, in single-door or double-
door styles, and plan out what combination of sizes will add up to the space you
have available.
Basically you screw a strip of steel channel along the wall, and then each cabinet
hangs from this channel by two fasteners, which can slide along the channel as need
be. The doors are hung afterward. They also provide adjustable feet for the lower
cabinets, and lengths of baseboard that you clip onto the feet in the toe space.
The 36'' wide cabinet has caused the counter to sag a little bit; 1/2'' countertop
plywood does not span very well over 36''. I would recommend sticking with the
narrower cabinets or using thicker countertop material. If your sink can only fit into
a 36'' case, then definitely increase the countertop thickness.
Also, we chose one of the least-expensive Ikea finishes, a white enamel-like finish
over particleboard. This does not hold up well in a wet environment - some water
leaked onto the doors and caused the particleboard to expand and crack the
coating. Choose the wood over the particleboard.
If you spend some time with the Ikea catalog and talk to the kitchen planners there,
you can figure out what needs to be done - go for it!
tiff
April 2005
I wanted to let other parents know about Custom Spaces, a locally owned design and cabinetry firm that we have used twice to help us tastefully modernize our Craftsman kitchen and bathroom. They have a keen sense of how to maximize the use of a given space and were able to work within our budget. They have great design and color ideas too! Check them out www.customspaces.net
satisfied customer
2002
Our contractor recommended that we get our cabinets from Bay Area Cabinets in San
Leandro. It was a bit of a drive for us (we live in Albany), but the
quality of the cabinets was high and they were a better deal than Home
Depot.
-Linda
When we remodeled our kitchen we considered Ikea but they
weren't cheaper and you have to put the cabinets together.
We then decided to get our cabinets through Home Depot but
the customer service was HORRIBLE. First you need to make
an appointment which is hard to get, they don't seem to
know too much about the different choices and after I made
the order I wanted to change one thing the next day and
then go pay my $3000 but no one would help us since we
didn't have an appointment we would have to wait until
next week. After that I ripped up the Home Depot order
form went to Yard Birds and was helped on the spot, they
were great, I love the cabinets, they were cheap and I
like the fact that Yard Birds is not a huge chain.
bell (April 2002)
We just remodeled our master bathroom and did extensive research on
costs for product. We found that while Expo had very nice products,
they were quite expensive. We found many of the same products (higher
end faucets, etc ..) at Lowe's in Vacaville. It is quite a drive for
most of us, but we went up there with a list and got almost all of it
in one big trip. They deliver as well, for a fee, of course! Might be
worth a try. The cabinets we put in our bathroom are actually from the
kitchen dept., and they had quite a nice selection. Good luck! It is
in the lot next to the old Nut Tree.
Trish
May 2007
We are looking for an inexpensive way to improve our kitchen and
I'm told that cabinet refacing could be an option (e.g. new
facing on the frame and completely new doors). I really like our
kitchen's layout and countertops but I just hate the cabinet
doors. I checked BPN already and there weren't any
recommendations. I already had Sears come out which ended up
being a huge debacle because the guy was a total jerk and quoted
me 10K. I've seen ads for Kitchen/HomeWorks in the paper but was
curious if anyone has used them for refacing? I've also found a
few guys on Craig's List that seem more affordable but I'm just
not sure what the range is. Has anyone out there had a good
(read affordable) experience with refacing? Thanks in advance!
Lisa
Hi Lisa, We recently replaced just our cabinet doors and are
extremely happy with our decision to work with what we had
instead of replacing. We bought the doors from Home Depot -
you'll have to do the measuring if you don't reface the frames
too (they'll send someone to measure if you do both). Ours were
very tricky because the frames are not square at all, but our
installer was FABULOUS! The frames had to be planed and the
doors hung evenly in the openings to keep them from looking
funky. With the wrong installation, it could have been a
fiasco. I HIGHLY recommend Alan Burne 510-290-6181. Since
then, we also used him on a tricky window trim job where he,
once again, did a beautiful job. He is skilled, but also takes
the time to do it right. Feel free to email me if you want more
info.
Nicol
June 2004
My husband and I are locked in a debate over whether to only
replace the kitchen countertop (old, ugly white tile) or to
replace BOTH the countertop AND the cabinets (dark wood,
possibly from the '50s or later, that he painted white on
the outside.) He would like to put in a nice, new, granite
countertop and leave the cabinets alone. I think a very
nice, new countertop would look funny on top of such old
cabinets, and that we will regret not doing the cabinets
after it's done. We've gone back and forth on this and seem
to go in circles. We can afford the bigger change, but it's
still a chunk of money, and we don't want to do it if it's
not ''necessary.'' And we can't decide whether it's a good
''investment'' or an ''indulgence.'' We both enjoy cooking and
spend a lot of time in the kitchen with our 1- and
3-yr-olds, so investing in our kitchen is on the brain. I'm
just really afraid we're going to regret not doing the
cabinets along with the countertops. Can anyone give us more
ideas or another perspective on this issue?
Indecisive
RE: Update cabinets, counter, or both?
If the cabinets are in good condition and you like the
size, number and layout you have, and your problems with
them are aesthetic only, then don't replace the cabinets. Consider repainting/refinishing or even re-facing (new
frame, doors and drawer fronts installed on top of the
existing 'boxes') instead, which will give you a nicer look
at a much lower price. You might even consider something
like cutting panels out of some or all of the upper
cabinets only and putting in plexiglass or decorative
screens, instead of a complete refacing.
If, however, the interior of the cabinets are in poor shape
(splintered wood, warped drawers that stick, six million
layers of old Contact paper on the shelves, whatever) or if
you are frustrated with the size or layout of the cabinet
space, then it's worth tearing them all out and replacing
them with a new layout that will make the time you spend in
your kitchen more pleasant.
Wishing *I* could afford a re-do!
You need to check the pricing of refacing the cabinets vs
buying new cabinets. If you need to reface the whole
kitchen then more often than not it's cheaper to buy new
cabinets altogether since the custom labor is the expensive
part. We redid our kitchen recently and we decided to go
with new cabinets(beautiful maple all wood) that proved to
be a cheaper option than the refacing!!! Plus you get
exactly what you want. We bought them from Diablo Valley
Cabinetry in San Ramon. Best prices and excellent service
from Dee.
Simona
Feb. 2002
My husband and I are hoping to brighten up our dated kitchen and had
Sears in to give us an estimate on cabinet refacing. We were shocked
at how much it would cost- $12K for our moderately sized kitchen. The
price was around $300/linear foot. Since we don't plan to stay in our
home forever, we don't want to sink a lot of money into this project.
I have looked at the UCB Parents Network recommendations for kitchen
remodeling but didn't see anything on this specific topic and am
hoping someone might have some info for us. Is that price the going
rate? Has anyone used Sears and been happy (or not) with it? Or are
there other recommendations folks might give us? We'd appreciate any
feedback! Thanks.
Liz
Depending on the condition of your cabinets, you might consider Kitchen
Tune-Up. It isn't really refacing, but more like a deep
cleaning, which was all my 10-year-old cabinets needed. He cleans,
scrubs (with steel wool and a razor!), varnishes and oils the wood in one
day for $500. It won't change the color of your cabinets, or repair badly
damaged wood, but it does take care of all surface scratches, nicks, and
worn-off finish. He will come out and do a free demo and let you know if it
will help your cabinets.
Jaime
I had Luke Bowman do my kitchen cabinets and spent far less than 12K
(around 4K, I think). However, I had to have them painted in oil,
which cost more than actually having the cabinet fronts made. Luke
can give you good ideas for saving money. We saved some drawers and
he built some new ones. We used all of our old boxes and put on all
new fronts. He also built some new units for me. He uses solid maple.
And best of all, he's a really nice guy!
His shop is in Marin Co. but he
lives in Berkeley.
Maria
I'm a general contractor (and a professional cost estimator) and I'd say
that's WAY too much money to pay for refacing. You can get nice new
prefinished birch cabinets for less than that. Depending on whether you
replace the existing cabinets with new ones in exactly the same
configuration, there may other costs involved such as plumbing, electrical,
and flooring. And you'd need to put in new counters as well. I'd
recommend talking to City Cabinets (in the phone book). They do custom
sized, moderately priced, cabinets in a variety of styles. They'd also
price just replacing the doors, if you wanted them to. I'm not sure if
they'd come out to measure for an estimate; you might have to send them a
list of the door sizes you need to get pricing.
(Their cabinets, by the way, are MUCH MUCH MUCH higher quality than
Home
Depot cabinets, and by the time you add in all the filler strips, and
additional labor it takes to install the stock sized Home Depot cabinets,
City Cabinets usually ends up LESS expensive.)
Alysson Baker
April 2004
We are embarking on a kitchen remodel, and looking for
additional information that is not posted to the web
site. Where did you buy your kitchen cabinets? (semi-
custom, I think they're referred to) ''They say'' that you
can get a better deal on similar cabinets than Home Depot,
but where exactly? There are a couple of places in San
Leandro / Hayward that have been mentioned by others, but
we'd love to talk to recent remodelers who have actually
used a place before diving in. Under consideration: Expo
(possibly too expensive), Home Depot (mixed review?),
Airport Appliance (the kitchen designers may not be
tops?), and PC Cabinets (didn't hear one way or the
other). Has anyone used these, or de-selected them for
particular reasons? Where is ''the'' place in the East Bay
to purchase good quality (not extremely ''high end'' but
not ''el-chapo'') kitchen cabinets? Comments, suggestions,
etc. are welcome.
Seeking kitchen cabinet source
You didn't mention IKEA. As someone who used cabinets in her
kitchen that weren't from Ikea, and then proceeded to work
with the Kitchen dept. at IKEA, I can wholeheartedly say
that the quality of material used is the same of that sold
at Home Depot or Expo. The difference, of course, is it is
unassembled and that can be a hassle for someone doing a
full kitchen remodel, though Ikea does have assemblers they
can recommend (I also have one, and their familiarity with
the product would enable them to install in a day)IKEA's
downfall is only that they don't have a lot of traditional
styles to choose from--mostly what they call Scandinavian
Mondern...but it's certainly worth a look. They also have
some logistical issues but you cannot beat the prices....let
me know if you have any questions.
For cabinets, I recommend working with Rick Kalem at Rex
Cabinets. He makes all his own, beautiful,
custom cabinets in his shop which is right next to his
showroom. Since we didn't have an architect or designer,
we worked with Rick on every detail of our kitchen design. We appreciated his ideas and flexiblity when he helped us
design a kitchen (with a desk area, mudroom, and bar area)
which uniqely fit the way we live. He is great to work
with and his leadtimes and estimate were reasonable. After
seeing our kitchen, our neighbor started working with him
and is sending her friend there as well. Feel free to
contact me for follow-up.
Jennifer
May 2003
We are planning to do a major remodel of our kitchen in
the coming year. I am concerned about the formaldehyde
level (and off-gassing)in most comercial kitchen
cabinets. Has anyone already done the research about
specific levels of off-gassing in current brands? Have
you found and installed any low- or no-formaldehyde
cabinets? How do prices, function and durability compare
to the standard ones? Thanks for helping keep our home
healthy!
R.K.
My name is William Walker of Silver Walker Studios, I am a
Certified Green Building Professional, licensed contractor,
designer & cabinet maker. I am responding to formaldehyde
off-gassing issue in cabinetry. Formaldehyde off-gassing
is a huge indoor air quality issue, and it can be minimized
substantially. If you have children you should be
especially concerned as formaldehyde is a suspected
carcinogen and has been linked to learning disorders in
children. The biggest formaldehyde offender is
particleboard and paints & finishes. In order to reduce
emissions in the home specify a formaldehyde free MDF or
plywood as well as low VOC. paints & finishes, they do
exist! There are other techniques as well, such as sealing
all suspected formaldehyde products with 2 coats of low or
no VOC paint or sealer. Go to
www.stopwaste.org/fsbuild.html which is the Alameda County
Waste Management Authority for a wealth of information on
Green building techniques and materials. You can also
call or email me for more information, I design &
manufacture Green cabinetry and would be happy to consult
with you free of charge.
William Walker
Silver Walker Studios
510.215.1266
bill AT silverwalker.com
Liza AT silverwalker.com
The worst for outbgassing formaldehyde is particle board.
Everyone should stay away from that. You might try getting
used cabinets at someplace like Omega or Urban Ore. Or try
this website:
http://www.care2.com/channels/solutions/home/13.
Many new materials used in remodeling can offgass: paint,
vinyl floor, carpet, fabric. There are less toxic solutions
if you look for them.
a remodeler
I have been doing some research b/c we are remodeling our
kitchen. Neil Kelly Cabinets out of Portland and Crystal
Cabinets have ''green'' options. You can find them both on
line.
fullhuis
2002
Don't throw out your cabinets! If you can't find someone who wants them then sell or donate
them to Urban Ore (one on Asby and the other on Gilman.) They will sell them to someone
else and the landfill will stay a little emptier.
Nov 2007
We are considering maple DeWils Cabinets for our kitchen -- has anyone had any
experiences, positive or negative, with this line of cabinets? We're looking at both
the
frameless and the face frame styles.
We just installed cherry cabinets made by DeWils about 6 months ago. They're
beautiful, work well, and our contractor frequently works with them. I'd recommend
them!
Myla
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