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Hot tub fantasy

July 2007

I would love to have a hot tub. My husband says he had one 15 years ago and they are expensive to install in old Berkeley houses and expensive and ''a pain in the butt'' to keep running. How expensive are they really? What about service and repairs? My parents had a hot tub that after years of neglect is now a planter. Do those of you who have hot tubs use and enjoy them? Do you find they are worth the care and upkeep? anon


We just recently replaced the hot tub in our old Berkeley house so I can give you some estimates on cost. A new hot tub will cost you between $3000 and $6000, depending on size and style. Add more for the delivery and installation. If you don't have a level cement pad to put it on, you'll need to budget for that, maybe another $1200 or so. You will need electrical wiring done for the pump, and if you want to be safe and up to code, you need to hire an electrician for that. They will put in a shut off switch and make sure it's the required distance from the house. We got a wood hot tub, and had to run a new gas line to the hot tub to heat the water. If you want something like a deck, or a trellis or screen around it, then more. The main ongoing cost is going to be in your PG&E bill, for heating the water and running the pump. The pump, which circulates and filters the water, has to run several hours a day to keep the water clean. We estimate that the hot tub adds an additional 15% to our PG&E bill, even with a heavy insulating cover. We've actually had to cut back dramatically on our other electrical use in order to keep the hot tub without going broke. Other maintenance: you need to test the PH and put in chlorine or some other bacteria killer once a week. And you have to change out the water periodically, every few months, say.

It sounds like a lot of trouble and expense, but my husband uses it every single night, rain or shine, to soak and read. It really is important for him so that's why we have it! Personally I'm not a fan - I'd rather have the garden space - but it is a big thing for him. If you think you would use it at least 3-4 days a week then it is probably worth it. I hate getting wet


We installed a hot tub on the side of our hill in Montclair 3 years ago. The tub was expensive and we had to put an electrical box up there just for the tub. We also had to have a concrete pad installed to make sure it didn't slide down the hill. Those 3 added up. However, the maintenance was inexpensive. We had it serviced twice a year and I think that was at most $200 to clean it that often (I'm talking deep clean, drain and scrub the tub). My husband maintained the chemicals, he did that once a week, but it wasn't a big deal at all. I think it's completely worth the expense, but I love hot tubs! Jen

Building a wood deck and hot tub--Where to start?

Feb 2007

We have a modest area of dirt in our back yard where we'd like to build a wood deck and install an outdoor hot tub. We already have a hookup on the side of the house where the hot tub would attach. Problem is, we don't have any idea what the sequence of events should be in proceeding with our project. I know we need to put in a concrete slab, a deck, and a hot tub, but based on our past experience working with separate contractors for a multi-step project, one contractor will do his part of the job but not necessarily take into consideration what needs to be in place before the next contractor does his job--in their opinion, that's the other contractor's problem. (In other words, the concrete contractor might put in the slab without thinking about the wood deck that needs to be built above it. And since neither my husband nor I are experienced general contractors, we don't know enough details to communicate all necessary information to the contractors.) Should we just hire one contractor for the whole project? And if so, can anyone recommend a good contractor who has experience with this type of project? Hoping for a deck and outdoor tub before winter


We extended our deck to have a hot tub. It ended up taking a year longer than we had expected. You have to have a permit, which has to be signed off by ALL your neighbors, which means detailed drawings, which means an engineering design for the deck. We'd chosen and half-paid for our hot tub for months before we got it, which created some confusion but did allow us to know exactly how much space to design for it. We set the hot tub into the deck because I liked that look and thought it would be easier to get into. Actually it isn't, and if there's a problem with it we'd have to rip the deck apart to get it out. The hot tub people were in charge of delivery and setting it up on the platform and using the wiring that the builders had made, then the builders came back and completed the rest of the deck. We had to creep over planks for two weeks to use it, but overall that went very smoothly.

We chose an expensive portable electric system which has worked well and has very low utility bills. Gas- powered wooden hot tubs are less comfortable to use and require a separate place for the gas heater and its concrete foundation.

You want to think about: screening from neighbors; lighting, allowing lots of room for splashing and overflow. Also, a tap installed close by for refilling and cleaning the filters is convenient. Consider where you're going to drain it, such as: away from your foundations.

My husband uses it every night and loves it. Generally a really great investment, worth the trouble. Fiona


Where to purchase a hot tub

Feb 2007

Does anyone have any advice about:
- where to purchase a hot tub in the Bay Area?
- what are the best hot tubs?
S.


We recently had to replace our gigantic old fiberglass spa, which came with our house, and now had a broken pump. We visited the hot tub place on Ashby near the freeway and also a place in Fremont: Crystal Springs Spas in Fremont, 657-4584. They have a good selection to look at, and the saleswoman was very helpful and not pushy. We also did a lot of research online.

We ended up buying a wood hot tub from Robert's Hot Tub in Richmond. http://www.rhtubs.com/ He ships them all over the world and is famous for his hot tubs. We are very happy with our wood hot tub. It has a smaller footprint than the big old spa we had before, it smells really nice (it's cedar), it looks beautiful, and when it wears out after 15 or 20 years, we only have wood planks to recycle, not a big chunk of plastic (it was a pain finding someone to take our old one but that is another story). We were also interested in energy costs - the plastic spas do have insulation where the wood ones are just wood. We think that because the wood one has a smaller surface area, it loses less heat, so they work out to about the same. In terms of cost, the price of the wood tub was about the same as the small-ish plastic spas we looked at, but there were additional costs for the wood one - running a gas line for the heater, paying someone to put it together, and building a little deck and steps into it. Roberts recommended a contractor to do this and we were very happy with the results. We felt the additional cost was worth it considering the aesthetics and ease of recycling at the end of its life. Go look at the website -- I think you can see examples of Robert's hot tubs at the place on Ashby but it's not that much farther to Richmond (you need to make an appt first though because it is not a showroom - it's a workshop). Ginger


The most important thing that I would recommend is that you open up the yellow pages, find several hot tub distributors, and then go to the showroom to actually TRY OUT the hot tubs they sell. When we were shopping around I thought that I knew what kind of tub that I wanted, but after actually sitting in several I discovered that I was wrong. Yes, it can seem kind of silly to sit in your bathing suit in a hot tub in the middle of a showroom. But it's a big investment and you don't want to regret it. That said, we've owned a Hot Springs spa for 6 years. It's had some problems, but they were all covered under the warranty. anon

Researching Hot Tubs

July 2003

Our extended family is researching buying a hot tub, we're hoping to find a round, attractive tub that has jets good for arthritis. Any suggestions on dealers or tubs you love? Thanks Vicki


Sundance Spas are the best. The only two to even look at are Sundance Spas or Hot Springs. (The ones at Costco and Home Depot are poorly constructed.) The jets on Sundance Spas are the superior. Sundance is on Jacuzzi Street in Richmond (close to Costco). The closet Hot Springs retailer is in Marin. What ever you do, wet test them. Bring you bathing suit and a towel to the store and GET IN! This is the only way to really try them. Don't be shy. This is an investment that will be with you for a long time and will improve the quality of your life.

Considering buying a house with a hot tub

May 2002

Hi -- we are considering buying a house that has a hot tub- - a luxury item that we have no idea what it involves... Is there a lot of maintenance that needs doing? Chemicals that need adding? Cleaning? Do you have to heat it all the time or do you turn it on a day before you want to use it? Do they take a lot of energy to run (it does have a cover). OK, I have exposed my ignorance, now someone please take pity ... Shahana


We bought a house last year with an existing hot tub. Our agent insisted on having it added, at the seller's expense, to the one year home maintenance policy they gave us. Otherwise it would have cost us about six hundred dollars to get working properly - the previous owners had not maintained the water quality properly so it was leaking, heater switch was burned out, needed new filters and so forth. Gary from Spa Repair Plus was absolutely great and gave us lots of advice on how to maintain it properly. Other spa repair people didn't even return phone calls, and those who did refused to have anything to do with a Jacuzzi - they're hard to work on, apparently, and the parts are expensive. In the long run, actually, we'd be better off with a smaller tub with an ionizer instead of chlorine, and a gas heater I believe is cheaper to run, so sometime when we're rich and famous we'll probably exchange it. We love it, though, and its been great to have. Fiona

Feb 2002

I am looking for a cover for our Hot Tub. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where to find a used? I would appreciate any information about non chemical water treatment for hot tub use as well. Thank you


I think you may have trouble finding a used one because the shape and size of the tops can vary so much. Also I think by the time people decide to get rid of their covers, they are pretty mildewed and watersogged and beat up. We recently needed a new one, and we just went on the web and found a place in So. California that made it to our specifications and delivered it. We are very happy with it. Just go to http://google.com and type in ''hot tub cover''. One thing I wanted to recommend was getting a ''spa cover lifter''. It's hard to explain, it's basically a metal bar that attaches to the side of the tub that the cover hangs on when you've using the hot tub. You raise or lower it to move the cover off and on, and it keeps it off the ground and out of the way. Here's a picture of the one we got here: http://www.specialtyspacovers.com/coverupspacover.html I think this is also the place we ordered the cover from but I'm not sure. For us, the cover lifter was a big improvement over lifting the heavy waterlogged cover off and on. Good luck. Ginger

Hot tub repair & maintenance

Sept 2006

Does anyone have a spa repair person they trust? All the recommendations on the website quite dated. Has anyone had experience with Greg Taylor from Spa Repair Plus? Thanks Adele


John from Satori hot tub has been repairing and maintaining our hot tub for over 20 years-- 7 years for us and 15 years for the previous owners. He is knowledgeable and pleasant to work with. He is good at presenting options for repairs. His number is 510-339-1566. judy
Oct 2004

Any recommendations out there for someone to repair (problems with the heater) and help us maintain a 15 year old Sundance hot tub/spa? Has anyone had Rick Dykstra work on their spa? Thanks


We have used Hercules Pool Care for the last 10 years, and have been very pleased with the work. Tracy is honest, punctual, reasonable, and does a great job maintaining both pool and spa. He has done a better job than any of the previous companies we used. He can be reached at 510-410- 7273. kelly
Oct 2002

Anyone out there with a hot tub repair person they have been happy with? Thank you. kelly


We use Jim at Jim's Spa Service. He helped us get our wooden hot tub into good shape when we first bought our house, and continues to help us when we need something. Very nice, down-to-earth guy, extremely knowledgeable. His number is 547-2301. Happy hot tubbing, Heidi
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