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Boy Scouts in Oakland area

Oct 2009

I am interested in enrolling my 11-year old boy in a local Boy Scout club. We live in Albany. Would you recommend a local Boy Scout club (in Albany, El Cerrito or Berkeley)? Thank you. susan


Come visit Troop 19 in Berkeley! It is the longest established troop in Berkeley (going strong for 90 years) and the scouts have so much fun. See the Troop 19 website at http://www.troop19berkeley.org Our son joined the troop over six years ago, has made life-long friends, and has had so many wonderful experiences and opportunities which we (his parents) could not otherwise have provided -- yearly summer camp, regular troop outings to near and far (Death Valley, Mt Shasta, Point Reyes Seashore, Pigeon Point, Pinnacles, etc.) for camping and hiking, a three-week trip to Japan as part of a scout exchange, a week in Florida sailing down the Florida Keys, two weeks back-packing in New Mexico at the High Adventure Camp at Philmont, and many local outdoor activities such as bike rides, hikes, and camping trips. The scouts in Troop 19 are involved in community work as well, such as park clean-ups, preparing food baskets for seniors and needy, Berkeley Path restorations, and other volunteer activities. The weekly meetings are busy and fun-filled with the scouts involved in many activities.

The troop meets weekly on Wednesday nights from 7:30 to 9:00 PM in Berkeley and everyone is most welcome to attend. Come visit us! The door is always open. www.troop19berkeley.org Long-time Troop 19 Parent


We had a wonderful time with Troop 24. It is a ''Berkeley'' troop, but plenty close enough to Albany, Kensington, El Cerrito to draw from those areas. They meet at St. Mary Magdalene in North Berkeley. Although it is not a ''Catholic'' troop, the church was kind enough to let us use their space. It is a very progressive, open and friendly group, with a full program of terrific activities. They have a website: www.troop24berkeley.org anonymous

Sea Scouts

Oct 2009

Attention Parents! Want your teen to learn confidence, responsibility, leadership skills and self discipline all while having fun? Tell them about the best teen program around. Sea Scouts! The S.S.S. (Sea Scout Ship) Sea Witch currently has openings for additional crew members. We have overnight weekend boat trips and an incredible 10 day summer fun cruise in August. No experience required. Teens learn how to operate & maintain our 46 ft. ship as well as sailboats, kayaks, canoes and rafts. We have computer navigation, Sonar, a kitchen, a water slide and even a DVD player on our ship! Our crew competes with other teen crews from all over California in events like navigation, rope climb, sailing skills, first aid, radio communications and knot tying. Come visit and meet the friendly co-ed crew. We meet year round Tuesdays 6:00pm - 8pm (dinner served) at 225 N. Court St. Martinez and Saturdays 9-4pm (lunch served) at the ship at the dock in Martinez. Only $15 to join. Questions? visit www.seascout.org Nancy


July 2009

Re: 16 yr old son does not socialize out of school
I, too, have a grandson that doesn't socialize in school. Although his ADD/Asperger's Syndrome disability does take this into matter, WHAT REALLY CHANGED HIM was enrolling him into the Sea Scout program. He's on a 10-day cruise right now up through the Delta with other boys on the Scouts 102ft boat. What a difference this group has made in my grandson. I try to do anything I can to help this group because they have made such a difference in my grandson. Their website is www.northlandnautical.org. He's learning to be part of a ''team'' which is one of the hurdles he's experiencing as well as learning valuable nautical and life skills including: rowing, sailing, navigation, small boat handling and ship operation, knot tying and rescue techniques, engine mechanics and repair, carpentry, painting, fishing , waterskiing and watersports. Where else could you find a wonderful outlet for these boys! Their website is www.northlandnautical.org. If you need more info, just give me a buzz. macy


Boy Scouts in Oakland area

Sept 2009

I am a long time girl scout and scout leader who is now the mother of two boys...so am a bit unclear on how Boy Scouts (Cub Scouts, Weeblos, etc.) works and when one needs to look in to joining what.

I am hopeful that my boys will be interested and active and, ideally, motivated to pursue their Eagles...so here are some of my questions:
1. At what age/grade do boys start down the scouting path?
2. How do you find their initial troop/pack/den? Do you join one at your school or go looking for one?
3. Is there a path one follows or do you go looking for a ''Boy Scout'' troop at a later date? What Scout troops are local? Do they have different philosophies? What does one consider when choosing a troop?
4. Have your kids gotten a lot out of scouts? What advice do you have for me? I know that I have to be careful to allow them to develop the interest and not push this on them because of my background and interests...but beyond that?!?!?
Thanks! Nikki


Boy Scouts is a fabulous organization and it is well worth the parents' time and effort. Some boys start as Cubs and move up; some begin as Scouts (like my son)when they are older. My son began in the 7th grade. Frankly he was quite lazy the first three years and didn't advance at all, just had fun, then in high school he got a chance to go backpacking for 15 days at Philmont Ranch in New Mexico. This was the ultimate scout trip. After that he was motivated and became an Eagle Scout. He is now 22, graduated from college & feels it has helped his whole life.And yes, he does put it on his resumes. I think the local troops are easier to partipate in as families are in your community. In these days of video games & sedentary leisure, Scouts gets them OUT and learning hands on. It is also great for single parents, they are embraced & supported. I think that the local scout troops here in the bay area are more relaxed & less regimented than other areas in the US, they are happy to have everyone participate. Former Scout Mom
Hi Nikki - My son is a member of troop 203 in Oakland and I would be happy to talk to you about it. I really like the troop because it is non-discriminatory (check out their website at www.troop203.com). I think the answer to most of your questions may just be: it depends. Boys start at different ages depending on their interests and schedules. If there is not a troop at your school or place of worship, the local office in San Leandro may be able to provide referrals. You can attend meetings of different troops and just find one that feels right - they may have more or fewer meetings, be more or less formal, be focused on different activities, etc. My son has gotten a tremendous amount out of Scouting and especially loves the outdoor adventures and summer camps. I've also seen huge progress in his leadership and project management skills. I hope this helps

Want to sign up my 5-year-old daughter

Sept 2008

I'm considering signing up my 5 year old daughter for Girl Scouts. At her age she'd be a Daisy. I wasn't a girl scout myself so I don't really know what it's all about. Looking at their website it appears to be a fun, positive program, with activities my daughter would really enjoy. I'm interested to hear from others who have participated how they liked or disliked it. And how does it compare to YMCA Adventure Guides or other similar programs? I didn't see anything in the archives about the program itself, only tips on how to find a troop. Thanks.


The Girl Scouting program is wonderful for lots of girls, and even those who do it for just a few years consider it a positive experience. However, the specifics of the program often depend on the leader(s), as well as the interests and personalities of the girls in the troop. While all troops do a variety of activities, some do more camping, outdoor activities, etc., some do more handicrafts and similar, and others are very service-focused. If a particular kind of experience is important to your daughter (or to you), be sure to ask detailed enough questions. R.K.

Girl scouts or something similar for 5th grader

Feb 2008

My daughter is in 5th grade, attending a very small private school. She will be moving to King Middle School in the fall and is longing to make new connections with girls in Berkeley who are around her age. She has convinced herself that girl scouts will be the answer. I am wondering if many girls enter girl scouts at age 11 (seems like they might be phasing out around then), and what other people's experiences might be with the girl scouts. Also, are there other types of groups that might fit the bill for her? She is already active with soccer and theater. anon please


You might want to check out Campfire USA. They used to be Campfire Girls, but are now more co-ed. The cool thing about them is they very much stand for inclusiveness (they welcome people of all backgrounds, ethnicities and sexual orientations, and are completely nonsectarian). The have programs for youth and teens. I would imagine that Girls Scouts does too, though, but I have never been involved with them, so I'm not sure. Alesia
I think your daughter's idea is great one! Yes, the younger years (elementary) years are the most popular for girl scouts. However, they have an incredible ''older girl'' program for middle schoolers and high schoolers that focuses on in-depth exploration of interest areas, learning about careers, developing a positive body image, leadership, fantastic international travel opportunities and so on... And they've been doing this successfully for many years because when I was a teenager my girl scout experience was the single most important positive influence on my life. You can find out more on the girl scout website as well as from the San Francisco Bay Area office. Also, because the troops are smaller and the girls more mature they can create a wonderful community that would be great for a girl in transition such as your daughter. Roxanne
Best way to see if Girl Scouts is a good fit for your daughter is to visit a troop meeting. It's true some girls phase out of scouting at 11, 12, or 13, but it's also true that many girls stay in. For those that stay in, the activity opportunities really expands. For example, in Berkeley there's a group that visits Japan. Call GS staffer Carol Stewart, 510-562-8470, to get a list of appropriate Berkeley troops. Or, you and your daughter can start a troop! Carol can help you with that as well.
In answer to one of your questions - yes, girls often start to drop out at the middle school transition, but yes, some girls do join then, too. The opportunities available tot these older girl scouts are great. former leader
Your daughter is an excellent problem-solver! There is a group of sixth graders I know of at King who are Girl Scouts, contact Carol Stewart, Community Development Director, carol@girlscoutsbayarea.org (510) 562-8470 x113 to find the troop contract. Girls come and go from Girl Scout troops at all ages. Even older Scouts will join new troops as old troops disband and new ones form. While it is true that some girls drift away as they get older, I personally think GS programs for older girls are even better now than when I was a GS during high school! Girl Scouts gave me a powerful sense of belonging and a place to sing (and no one cared about my voice). Give it a try. Girl Scout fan

Brownie/Girl Scouts in El Cerrito area

July 2007

I live in El Cerrito and I've been having great difficulty finding a Brownie Troop for my 7 year old daughter. We tried to get into three different troops in El Cerrito because she has freinds in those troops, but they have all been full for a while now. I contacted the community development director for the West Contra Costa County Girls Scout Association and they siad they would get back to me with info on troops in my area with openings. A week later I got a one call from a troop leader who has openings. However her troop is way too expansive geographically. Her troop consists of girls from all over West Contra Costa County as far north as Hercules and Pinole. They meet at the Rod and Gun club in Richmond which is not my cup of tea and it's really out of the way for us, on the coastal area north of Point Richmond. My duaghter doesn't know anyone in that troop and it would feel like we are out of our element and community all together. We are hoping to find a troop more lo! cal and intimate. There must be more troops in El Cerrito. How about Kensington or Albany? Any ideas of how I can get more info on local troops? Why is it so difficult to find a troop that has openings? I thought Girl Scouts were everywhere. Are there other people to contact that may have better information?

Everyone keeps suggesting that I start my own troop, but I'm not that kind of mom who is super organized and has all the free time to commit to that much responsibility. And non of my friends do either. Perhaps the real problem is a shortage of parents who have the time and ability to start and lead a troop, resulting in a shortage of available troops. Or maybe it is the shortage of large meeting spaces for larger groups, thus limiting the number of girls who can join. LF


Your daughter can always register with the Girl Scouts as a Juliette, which is a non-Troop affiliated Girl Scout. She wouldn't get the benefit of attending Troop meetings but she would be able to participate in Association events.

Girl Scouts has requirements around adult-child ratios and that is probably what is limiting the size of the troops. Have you asked the leaders of the closed troops if you can volunteer or be a co-leader? Then they might be able to expand. It is a commitment but you don't need to be ''super organized'' or have ''all the time'' -- I work full time, travel frequently for business, and still manage a troop of 18 girls. You and your friends could also form a co-op troop, where each parent takes one meeting and the responsibilty rotates.

Finally, one of the points of Girl Scouts is to make new friends. While it is understandable that your daughter would want to be in a troop with girls she knows, meeting and becoming friends with girls from different backgrounds could be a valuable growth experience for her. Mom of a Happy Brownie


You *can* get into a troop, or start a new troop, but it will take prodding the Girl Scouts office in Oakland a lot. It's not that they don't want to help, but in my experience they need reminders. Some parents at my daughter's school (Tehiyah, in El Cerrito) have expressed interest in joining a Brownie troop.

Also, you might consider starting a co-op troop. It's a great way to share the work. My daughter's troop in Alameda is a co-op troop. All of the parents are co-leaders, which means we share responsibilities. One parents attends council meetings, another handles cookie sales, some go on field trips, and we all take turns leading a meeting. We keep it very low-key; our troop's uniform is only a Brownie vest. Other troops may go sash-only, or choose more. Betsy


7 year old wants to join Cub Scouts

Oct 2006

My son's public school class was visited by the cub scouts and as a result he wants to join. I've spoken to the people running the local pack and they say, and I believe them, that they don't follow the national organization's discriminatory policies towards gays, lesbians, atheists and agnostics. But they have taken no public stand on it and the Bay Area council, of which they are a part, also has not opposed the national policy. (They say that anyone is welcome as long as they don't engage in ''advocacy'' while in a leadership position, i.e. don't try to change the policy). I'm really uncomfortable with this position and totally appalled by the national policy. But I do think my son would enjoy scouting and probably get a lot out of it. I'm curious as to how others have dealt with this issue and also whether there are any non-discriminatory alternatives to scouting, particularly in the Montclair/Piedmont Pines area of Oakland. Thinking about Scouting


Scouting sounds like an awesome experience that everyone should get to have, but schools need to take a vigilant stand against institutionalized discrimination. I do not administer anything from the Boy Scouts in my classroom, but I tell my students that the forms are in the office. If your son wants to join, you should let him, but no school should allow solicitation from any organization that discriminates based on religious or sexual preferences. Yes to Scouts, No to Soliciting in Schools
You might want to take a look at the Scouting Program in Piedmont for your son. The Piedmont Council is separate from the Bay Area Scouting Council. The Piedmont Council has very publicly and vehemently denounced the anti-gay polices of the national council. There are several cub scout packs in the Piedmont Council and boys from Oakland & other cities are more than welcome. It's an extremely well-run organization. Like you I initially had some reservations about the whole scouting thing, but my son really wanted to do it. It has turned out to be one of his very favorite activities and he's continued with it into high school. The phone number for the Piedmont Council Office is 547-4493 - they'll be glad to give you more info. -Scout mom
You are not alone! I understand how you feel about Cub Scouts because I went through the same soul-searching before allowing my son to sign up (as did most parents I've met). I am so glad I let him join. He loves being a Cub Scout and I think he gets out of it what I want him to. His values come from his parents, which of course is as it should be.

The local packs seem to ''get it'' in terms of the idiocy of the national organization and focus on the boys, not the politics. No one I know agrees with the BSA policies, yet everyone I've met through it thinks scouting is a positive activity for their sons.

We pretty much ignore the larger organization and focus on the boys. They love the hiking and camping, and the educational and character development activities are actually useful and interesting. We've found scoutning to be a great activity for a boy who is not necessarily into sports but likes to earn recognition for individual achievement. My son loves the patches, beads, badges and all that stuff that he's earned, and he's motivated.

While I would have loved to find other organizations that had the same activities, there weren't many to choose from that provided the activities and achievements that now make him so happy. I love what my son gets out of scouting and if the BSA weren't so stupid in their policies, I otherwise would find it an ideal activity and enjoy it as much as my son. He thinks it's great! Sad to Have Compromised; Glad I Did


I too am appalled by their views. I can see why it would be tempting to let him in, but how can you guarantee the current local leaders will stay? The future is unknown. And how could you really pull him out at that point, after he's even more attached to the idea and has made friends? And perhaps there's a moral issue with pretending things are okay, because they don't directly touch you (end justifies means). I guess you have to decide if you're the kind of family who refrains from things that you find offensive and wrong, or if you're the kind of family who takes on the headaches of forcing change from within. Or third option, the kind who goes along with things and tries not to think about it. I don't judge you either way- it's a tough decision anon
My seven year old has also recently joined cub scouts and I am confused by the response you received in questioning the national policy. Berkeley has a statement on their website with strong wording against the national policy (basically a big kiss my grits). Albany and Kensington have gentler statements as well on their sites.

Leaders I have talked to think the national policy is ridiculous, and would like to carry banners to that effect, but do not want to lose their charter (I think 3 groups nationally have lost theirs). Scouting is traditionally a Christian organization but all are welcome and the religious aspect is basically nonexistant here in the Bay Area. (Okay some troops sell Christmas wreaths). I have been really impressed by the leaders I have met and understand your feelings but would encourage you go to the local websites for a better scope Cub Scout Mom


This is a tough decision--one our family went also went through. I was girl scout and a Explorer scout (the coed branch in high school!) and I loved scouting and what it taught me. My son also wanted to join the cub scouts because he loves the outdoors. My spouse and I were very hesitant because of the national leadership stance on gays (of which I had NO idea when I was a scout!). We also knew personally that no one in the local group would discrimate or even sanction discrimination but we still weren't comfotable. Finally, we realized what we could say to our son--his ''Uncle'' Joe, my gay best friend, would not be allowed to be a leader. We were very careful to discuss how his friends and their parents wouldn't care that Uncle Joe was gay and that we thought the cub scouts at his school were great kids but given that Uncle Joe wouldn't be allowed to be be involved because of what the ''bosses'' thought, we didn't think our son should be involved either. When we explained it to him that way, he didn't want to be part of the group either--I think he used that words ''That's stupid!''

I have not heard of another group in the Montclair Piedmont Pines area--if there were one we would join! wish it were different


Looking for cub scouts and brownies

July 2003

Greetings - We're looking for a great Brownie Troop for our 9 1/2 year old third grader (who attends Tehiyah Day School) and a great Cub Scout Troop for our 7 1/2 year old first grader (who also attends TDS). We'd really appreciate recommendations for troops near our North Oakland neighborhood (which would include Rockridge, Elmwood, or Piedmont). Recommendations in the archives are for Boy Scouts and therefore too old for my Cub. Any information as to how to connect with the specific troop would be great, as the Boy Scouts website is under construction and therefore not much help at all with specifics in our area. Many thanks! Deborah


You don't mention it, but have you tried the Girl Scouts webpage at www.girlscoutsbayarea.org. If you visit there, or better yet, call the local Council Office at (800) 447-4475, they can match you with a troop in your area. Former Girl Scout
This is probably not the best time to be looking for scout troops. Both scout troops my children are in are winding down for the year. Your best bet is to call both council offices in the late summer and try and get hooked up then. Scouting Mom

Boy Scouts

April 2002

I am looking for a Boy Scout Troop that my 7 year old can join. Any ideas? Thank you.


My son joined a very nice very small pack (342) in Oakland that meets in Redwood Heights at the Presbyterian Church near the Safeway. All parts of the pack meet at 7:30 on Monday. I didn't know much about the scouts before, but Ben wanted to join and we decided that despite our political issues with the Scouts we would try it. What I've learned about the experience is that Boy Scouts really seem to know what boys like and need in a group situation and have it set up well for them to have fun and succeed. This troop is quite small, and you could really help define what the troop is by being involved. If you'd like more information, I am happy to provide it, or you can get in touch with my husband Rick Davis at rld at well.com. Myriam
Regarding the Boy Scouts, Troop 271 Park Blvd, Oakland is a great troop. All boys are welcomed to join. If interested you can contact Sue Grandt, 530-7039. The Boy Scouts meet on Tuesday evenings at the Park Blvd Church (sorry I can;t remember the name of the church) the weblos and tigers I think meet on Saturdays. They also have a large girl scout troop that also meets at this church. This church has been supporting the scouts for over 75 years... Cindy
A 7 year old would join the Cub Scouts. Pack 30 is sponsored by the Epworth United Methodist Church on Hopkins Street in Berkeley. You don't say where you live, so you should contact the Mt. Diablo-Silverado Boy Scout Council in Pleasant Hill (925-674-6100) to find the location of the nearest Cub Scout Pack. Don
April 2001

My son has expressed an interest in joining the boy scouts. I'm a little ambivalent, mostly because of the official anti-gay discrimination policy, but I'd like some more information about people's experiences, and perhaps some recommendations for specific groups in the Berkeley/Oakland area. Thanks! Raissa


There is a Scout troop that is "open and affirming", which means that they accept gays in the organization. It meets at the First Congregational Church of Berkeley, and you can get more information about them by calling the church, 848-3696. Louise
I have 3 sons who all joined Cub Scout Pack 296 while in elementary school at Joaquin Miller in the Oakland Hills - in fact I was a den leader for several years. The older two have now gone onto Boy Scout Troop 203 (6th grade and up) which meets at Montera Middle School most Monday nights and has outdoor activities such as camping and biking at least once per month. I cannot speak highly enough of the experience my kids have had. The older one has learning disabilities and Boy Scouts has given him a lot of practical skills, built his physical strength and given him wholesome activities to participate in. My middle son is enjoying the experience in a different way. He's meeting kids from public and private schools in Berkeley and Oakland. Boy Scouts has increased their self-reliance,leadership skills and ability to work with others. They also enjoy being part of a supportive community with many great kids and parents. Troop 203 has a website with lots of information about the troop, how to join, what's on the calendar www.troop203.com . I am the Outreach Chair for Troop 203 and welcome questions directly - Mary

Troop 203 is always happy to welcome a new boy scout whether he has previous experience with scouting or not.A final comment - I realize that there is some negative sentiment against the Boy Scouts because of their (National) policy toward gays. Andy Young, the Scout Master for 203 and I recently were interviewed by the Montclarion to state our disagreement with that policy. (Published 3/15 I believe). Our website also has a statement of our disagreement with the national policy and our commitment to diversity of all kinds. I personally feel as a parent that the good of boyscouts outweighs any negatives associated with the national view. Mary


Boy Scout Troop 206 in Oakland is a great troop, very active and very concerned about the recent discrimantory policies of the National Organization. We have drafted and adopted our own Policy of Inclusiveness which deals directly with issues of sexual orientation of our Scouts and Adult Leaders. Please feel free to contact me if you would like to find our more about our troop. We welcome all those interested in Scouting for its focus on the environment and the development of leadership skills in boys. Lesley
August 2001

As many of you may suspect, Boy Scouts in Berkeley do not agree with the National Policy banning gays from membership in Scouting. Pack 30 has even had its position paper stating that it will not discriminate against homosexuals on its website and the Scouting For All website for a year. We have passed out our statement at the Solano Stroll, the 4th of July festival at the Marina and sent it to the Berkeley City Council members and the Schoolboard. We have talked to the media to get our message across as well.

As parents and Scouts we believe that we can make a positive change in Scouting from within, and with the help of others who feel like minded, we can work with those who would like to change National BSA Policy. Please send your voice of protest to the Boy Scouts of America National Headquarters, 1325 W. Walnut Hill Lane, P.O. Box 152079, Irving, Tx 75015-2079. Scouts in Berkeley are not the problem. We are fighting a difficult and lonely battle within Scouting, because we believe that we can change the world for the better. We do not discriminate and will not.

Scouting is a wonderful program for all children, my three children have benefitted greatly and have given countless hours back to the community in service hours. We will continue to offer a quality program for all youth interested. We only ask that you put a local face on Berkeley Boy Scouts and understand that we are fighting National Policy. Many of our Scouts are members of their Gay/Straight Alliance and seek to end discrimination in all areas of our community. Pack 30 is sponsored by Epworth United Methodist Church, which is a Reconciling Congregation, meaning that we actively welcome all. As Berkeley citizens, I know you want to seek out the truth, before you cast your judgement.
Sincerely, Ellen, Ass't Cubmaster Pack 30, Advisor Crew 24


Tiger Cubs

Does anyone know of a tiger scouts groups for a first grader which is not affiliated with a particular school? There isn't one at my son's school and I think he'd really enjoy it, but I worry if there are already long-established relationships, he'd have trouble feeling part of it. We're in Oakland, and would prefer that. Thanks.


Tiger Cubs is a branch of the Cub Scouts intended exclusively for first graders. They will graduate into Cub Scouts in June. That leaves about four months if your son is in first grade. Most certainly the groups that are out there are fairly well established, but they would certainly welcome newcomers. The sooner he starts participating, the sooner he'll get to know the kids. For the location of the Cub Scout Packs located nearest to your home call the scout office at 577-9000 9:00am to 5:00 pm or see their web pages at http://www.sfbac.org (San Francisco Bay Area Council).( Idon't see any Packs in Oakland that are supporting web pages - but it's the usual digital divide) If you are in/near Piedmont, they have their own council, ditto Alameda. I should explain that the Tiger Cubs are affiliated with the Pack in which they be a Cub Scout. Tigers usually attend their monthly Pack meeting and have one monthly meeting with just the Tiger Cubs and their Tiger Cub Partners. (each boy has a partner who is an adult guardian/relative/neighboor ).
Roger

Girl Scouts

October 2001

I am looking for a Brownie troop for my 1st grade daughter and her 2nd grade friend in Oakland (North, Montclair, Redwood Heights - we're flexible). I called the council a month ago and they said they'd put us on a waiting list and someone would call. I still haven't heard from anyone so I'd appreciate any leads you can give. Michael


I just went through this process of finding a troop for my daughter. Here are the steps I took:
1. I emailed Sandra Munoz at the GS Council office in oakland: Sandra at girlscoutsbayarea.org. She sent a form to me at my home that I filled out and returned. It was a form to request placement in a troop (troop leaders call the office when they are looking for more girls for their troops). Shortly thereafter I received a confirmation postcard that my form had been received. I did not hear anything else for a month.

2. So, I decided to contact a few mom's of friends of my daughter's who I knew had been in or were in a troop. One of the moms offered to ask her daughter's troop leader if there was space, but there was not.

3. I called Sandra Munoz (about a month after I initially contacted her) and let her know that I was still interested. Within a week she called back to say a new troop was forming. We went to the meeting and it turned out to be a very nice group.

4. The same week that we went to the meeting above, the leader from the first troop called to say a spot had opened up and would my daughter be interested. Since my daughter's good friend was in the first troop, she wanted to switch.

To sum up, I would call or email Sandra and let her know you are still interested, and I would ask other parents your daughter's classmates and see if they know of any troops. Good luck! Kim


Have you tried Girl Scouts of America headquarters? They are located in Oakland they should be able to give you a listing of Brownie Troops. The number is 562-8470. I hope this helps. Tamara
I am looking for a girl scout troop for my 10 year old (5th grade) daughter near the Montclair, Piedmont, or Rockridge areas. I have contacted a number of schools and the girl scout office without luck. My husband and I are happy to help out with troop activities. Any help locating a troop is much appreciated. Marjori
If the SF Bay Council (
http//www.sfbgirlscouts.org/ can't give you information on a troop with an opening, your best bet is to start your own with your daughter and some of her friends. It's easy and the Council will help you. The troops are usually made of girls around the same age, with parent volunteers running things, and it's hard to find a troop willing to add more girls. I've been involved with my daughter's troop since the girls were in kindergarten and they're now in 6th grade. It's fun and the Scout office has lots of resources. Good luck! Cathy
Here's some advice re finding/starting a girl scout troop.

I've been a co-leader for three years. Another mom at our elem school and I started a brownie troop when our daughters were in first grade. I recruited a graduate student co-leader last year, which worked almost as well. I've learned that if you really want your child to have an experience like this, you're better off commiting yourself to being very involved, and admittedly, it's a lot of work!

I just spoke with the SF Bay Area girl scout council, and they ask that you either call or e-mail Dolores Reveles -- 510-562-8470 ext 107 or dolores at sanfranciscobayarea.org.

It's recruitment time -- they're getting lots of calls like yours -- and they are interested in seeing as many troops form as possible, so you may have a chance. Good luck!

Yours, Melissa


You should call the East Bay Regional Girl Scout Council on Edgewater Avenue in Oakland. They can connect you with other troops in your area. Good luck; scouting is a fun activity ofr girls and parents. Your daughter would belong in a group called "Daises." Sharon
We have openings for 10 year old girls in our troop, but we are located in El Cerrito. We would love to have you if you are willing to make the trek. We meet twice a month on Wednesdays at 545-710. Scouting has many fun activities with the larger association, such as the upcoming Camporee weekend and the spring songfest and dance festivals. Otherwise, you can contact the SF Bay Girl Scouts at 510-562-8470 or e-mail at info at sfbgirlscouts.org for something closer to home. Wendy
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