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Oct. 2006
I am a single mom. This summer my son (6 1/2) started playing
dress-up with his two sisters (8, 5 1/2). He started wearing
his older sister's dresses + shoes. Two weeks ago I had to work
so our sitter (8th grade) came over. When I got back they were
in the girls' room. I went to the door, heard a lot of
scurrying, went in + the girls were all wide-eyed, and my son
was in the closet. The girls started laughing. My son came
out, and was in his older sister's flower girl dress (a wedding
last December). He had on lipstick, mascara, eye shadow (the
sitter did that) white lace tights + white shoes, ruffled half
slip, and white lace gloves. I didn't know what to say, so
rather than react I said it was time to get undressed and we'd
go to McDonalds. He didn't want to get undressed, and starting
crying. I asked the girls to leave, took the gloves off and his
nails had been polished. I unzipped the dress, he had on the
lace camisole and white bloomers over the tights. My final
shock was when I slid the bloomers down, he had his sister's
panties under the tights. I put everything away, washed his
face, he got dressed, we went to McDonalds. We watched ''The
Borrowers'' when we got home and then I asked them to get ready
for bed. When I came to his room, he was already under his
covers, and I was suspicious. I asked what pajamas he had on
and he said nothing. I pulled the blanket down and he was in
his sister's pink Barbie nightgown, so I sat him up and said we
had to talk. He cried and let me to take the nightgown over his
head but he was wearing the camisole + panties he wore with the
dress. I got his own underwear and X-Men pjs, got him dressed,
and tucked him in. So now the new constant topic with him and
his sisters is ''can we play dres-up now'' and he wants to wear
everything. Is this a phase that kindergarten boys go through?
If I let them play once a week will that get it out of his
system? Should I just say ''no more''? They play together very
innocently, and I don't let him out of the house dressed up, but
when his sisters help him into panties, cami, dress, slip,
tights, and he stays like that all morning, so I'm concerned and
want to do the right thing. Thanks!
Cathy
I recognize that this is an uncomfortable subject but, I would
stronlgy encourage you to let him keep up this play. Yes, this
might be a phase but it also might not be. Either way, your
son is defining and expressing himself and to take that away
from him will have negative effects on his development. There
was a great article about this very topic in the SF Chronicle
not too long ago that is full of information called ''When is it
okay for boys to be girls and girls to be boys''. Here's the
link:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/08/27/MNGL2KQ8H41.DTL
Also, if you don't want to handle this all by yourself, you may
want to make sure that your son has a place in to express
himself through drama, dance, music or art...a place where he
can be whoever he wants to be. Let me know if you want help
finding those places near your home.
Good Luck!
Lynn
It's great that your son can find common ground on which to play with his
sisters. I
have a few pics of my then toddler son, he is six now, dressed up as
Jasmine, Ariel,
trying on his sister's shoes, and my daughter even put make-up on him on a
few
occasions. He's a pretty kid and looks like a girl in the pics. He isn't
interested in
dress-up, anymore, save for Halloween where he would rather be some icky
Superhero with a daggar or a ray gun than anything else. I see no harm
done, and
my son is a balanced, happy kid, and I certainly wouldn't think twice
about my
daughter having dressed up like a construction worker or cowboy.
I would let your son dress up to his heart's content and let him know that
he doesn't
have to hide beneath the covers if he is in dress-up clothes. You also
get to
mandate, if you are afraid of public ridicule/censure, that dress-up
clothing stays
in the house. Make sure, however, that the same rule holds fast for your
daughters
as well.
Try not not to panic. Good luck
Anon
Its funny, I read your post and kept waiting to find out what
the problem is. And I got to the end and still didn't see it.
Feels to me like kids like to explore, and costumes/dress up is
part of it. Would you be concerned if he wanted to wear a
Superman outfit to bed and got upset about taking it off? Then
why care about girls clothes? My son always begs for me to put
my makeup on him. He wants lipstick and blush in particular.
He also has asked to have his hair died red, and he loves having
his nails/toes painted. To me it all seems like
playing/curiosity. The attitude I take is the same as it would
be with any other costume he wants to wear: sometimes its ok
because we are playing/have the time, and other times its not.
But within those parameters I let his desires/creativity live
unjudged. I definitely would let him sleep in whatever he
wants, as long as it kept him warm. My instinct is that all
this stuff passes quickly (he used to love Elmo, then Dora, now
Diego), and the best way is to not judge, and just let him
explore. If you don't communicate any distress, and don't put
any shame around it, I will bet that his sisters will be less
inclined to encourage him in this particular direction as
well. ''Oh, you want to wear the pink pajamas tonight? Fine by
me, you don't have to hide that.'' Sounds like the girls are
partly helping your son dress up because they think its ''wrong''
and will upset you -- I would, again, just communicate to them
from a light place ''you guys are so funny/silly'' and then go
about my business, no heavy reaction. Making this a big deal
(or any deal really) will only feed the fire and set a taboo
that from my perspective seems kind of silly.
boys who wear pink are no problem to me!
Honestly, this sounds adorable! I laughed about the beauty of
it. Yes, I do understand that it may seem strange, but I would
just let him do it. My daughter's friend came over and she
dressed him in her princess outfit. He thought he was
beautiful. He kept it on for the entire play date and then had
to change when he went home.
I wouldn't make him feel bad about it. You may not have said
too much about it, but I get the feeling that your actions
speak louder than words. He wasn't allowed to go out of the
house with it and had to change - even when it was a night gown
and no one would see him at night.
I am 100% sure that this is a pretty normal phase for a child.
But even if it wasn't... Wouldn't you still love him to pieces
for who he is - not for what he wears? This is your chance to
let him know that. Allow him to be who he wants to be and
before you know it this will have passed too!
JOJ
I think your son is just having fun - there's no deeper meaning
to him dressing up in his sister's clothes. Don't make a big
deal over it. What are you so worried about? - remember he is
only six; your son doesn't interpret dressing up in the same
adult mind as yourself. As a teacher I allowed some 4th grade
boys time to help out in a kindergarten class - the minute they
were left alone, they headed straight for the dress up box and
were in pink frillies before you knew it - and these were the
cool tough guys!!
I'm sure he'll be back into Power Rangers/Spiderman/Pokemon by
this time next week. Try not to be too concerned
anon
You didn't mention what your concerns are about your son dressing up with
his
sisters. I'm not sure exactly what the problem is.. My advice would be
to let your
son play dress-up. Should he want to wear ''girl'' clothes outside the
house you may
consider speaking with him about how other people may react to his choice
of attire
because they may not understand but beyond that let him play and express
himself.
I'm also not sure why you made him take his sister's pj's off before bed.
Were they
not warm enough? Was his sister not willing to share her clothes?
For the health of your entire family, I wish you luck in resolving your
gender issues.
anon
I think the thing you need to ask is why is this a problem for
you? It could be that he wants to do the stuff his older and
younger sisters do. It could be a phase. It could be that he
likes that stuff more than X-men (who can blame him?). Making him
feel guilty or wrong about it will solve nothing.
There is nothing wrong in what he is doing. I wouldn't jump to
conclusions about what it all means, either. If he is enjoying
himself, and his sisters are enjoying themselves, that's all
wonderful. The key is that your kids are happy and fulfilled. As
a busy single mom it's easy to beat yourself up about stuff. So
stop. And, please, don't punish him for it. Let him explore and
feel free to express himself
Support for kids
Well,the girls stuff is more beautiful, etc. You are lucky to
have a boy who will play nicely with his sisters.Inserting
himself in the dress up is his way of being included. It is
creative and imaginative. As a mother of a boy and girl
however, I would set some limits. I would invest in some play
pretend garments for your son. Look through ''back to basic
toys'' catalogue or online and ask him to choose. Tell him you
are happy that they play together nicely but that it struck you
that he doesn't have anything appropriate for himself. My boy
has an emerald green cape that he has worn from 4-8.He still
puts it on when his sister and 7 year old friend are doing
their dress up.You were right not to make it an issue.Next time
the play pretend outfits come out, tell the girls that while it
is fun and silly, they need to find appropriate items for their
brother. Approach the subject with your son as letting him
chose pajamas..are his as soft as the girls? Tell the
babysitter that while you don't mind the dress up, she must
encourage your son to wear fun things for him that you have
provided so that your son will be included and NOT as the
guinea pig model for the girls. If he still wants to wear pink,
let him do it at home. Make up or no make up? I would tell him
it isn't the convention for boys to wear make up, only on
Halloween or face painting. Have you read ''Max and Ruby's
Beauty Shop?'' My little brother loved dragging around baby
dolls until the age of 7/8. My mom never made an issue. He is
now deceased and it is one of the sweetest things I remember
about him. Get your boy some of his own stuff, explain the
convention, and love him for the creative boy he is.
anon
I don't have any direct experience with kindergarteners, but I
don't really see any problem from the picture of your son
playing with girls' dress.
I have a younger brother. In my family, he is the only boy
among the cousins around the same age. So he was used to
playing with us, anything. So we, all three girls, made him
dress up as a girl, put lipstick on him, everything you
described in your message. He was fine with playing like that
till almost middle school. Later, he started to have more
friends outside of the family members, and stopped playing with
us girls.
I guess as long as your son is OK with it, and doesn't think it
embarrassing, there is no reason to over-react. Boys will stop
it once it is time
Hua
I can't figure out what the problem is. You honestly care
whether he wears Barbie or X-Men on his pajamas? (I hate pink
and won't buy pink street clothes for my son OR my daughter, but
they both have pink pajamas because they wanted them.)
It's perfectly normal for young kids to play dress-up and enjoy
messing around with nail polish and makeup. ''Cross dressing'' is
normal too.
Your son will either outgrow it, or he won't, but either way
you're doing him no favors at all by making a big deal of it.
Easy enough to make a house rule that boys don't leave the house
in girls' clothing, if you prefer; otherwise, why not just enjoy
and appreciate his quirky aesthetic sensibility and willingness
to challenge arbitrary cultural conventions?
Boy Clothes Are Boring
I've known a number of boys who went through a phase of dressing
up like their sisters did - especially boys with no brothers of
father in the home - and they all got over it. I would think
that your resistance would make it more of a forbidden fruit,
and heighten his fixation on it. I would downplay it as much as
possible, and understand that his influences are female, and our
gender associations are, after all, pretty arbitrary. Maybe
see, from his point of view, that this is a prized game and
activity, and why would he naturally leave himself out of it?
He will get his gender socialization at school just fine, I bet
Jennifer
Every so often some one writes in about this issue, very concerned and
wondering
what to do about a son dressing up in sister's clothing.
It's so interesting to me that girls dressing in ''boys'' clothing (being
tom boys) isn't
a concern. but little boys dressing up in their big-sister's clothes is
alarming.
Are you afraid your son is going to be gay? That's the only concern I can
think of
arising from a little boy dressing up in clothes that are different from
what he is
normally dressed in.
Putting aside that I don't think there's anything ''wrong'' with a boy
being gay, or
dressing up in women's clothing, the VAST majority of boys for whom this
is not a
phase (those that grow up to be transvestites) are straight. These are men
who don't
dress up as a performance, but dress in women's clothes because they
prefer them.
So, your son enjoys dressing up in his sisters clothes. So what? He may
just admire
his sisters, the clothes are different, so it's enjoyable to him to
emulate them. Why
not let him wear a nightgown to bed, if that's what he enjoys?
Whatever you do, DON'T make him feel badly or that there's something
''wrong'' with
him for wanting to. Judging by the amount of responses to past queries
about this
issue, this is a pretty normal thing. It's not hurting him, it's not
hurting any one else,
so why not?
Many people suggest just keeping it at home. I can understand that, as
little boys
would probably get teased horribly at school or in public for dressing in
their
sister's clothes. It makes sense to me, therefore, to gently let your son
know that
some people aren't very nice and will tease him in a mean way if he
dresses like that
in public, so you'd prefer that he not get his feelings hurt and just
dress-up at
home.
Most likely, he'll outgrow it eventually, but please don't make a big deal
about it
Anonymous
I haven't gone through this personally, but what I have come to
understand from other mothers in similar situations is to let
it go...it is more than likely just a phase, and if by some
small chance it isn't, well there's not much you can do about
it anyway. It might help to think of this situation from his
point-of-view: it sounds like he is surrounded by women/girls
most of the time (mom, 2 sisters, sitter) and boys are just as
intrigued by the ''secret lives'' of women as are little girls.
All the fun we girls get to have - the makeup, the silly
clothes...why wouldn't a boy be intrigued! Perhaps you can
explain that this kind of fun is for inside the house
only...and whether you pick a special, weekly dress-up time or
just let him do it when he wants to, chances are he will lose
interest in it sooner than later. I don't think that
overcompensating with Xmen and ''boy'' outfits/toys will be very
effective. Right now, those things might seem much less
interesting to him. Please give it time, space, and even learn
to laugh at it...20 years from now, it may very well be the
story you tell at his wedding!
anon
I totally understand your concern. You want your son to be protected from other
kids' (and perhaps even adults') comments, taunts, teasing, etc. However, it's
important for you to remind yourself that allowing him to dress up and make
believe he is a girl at home as a 6 year old isn't going to determine who his is as an
adult. It could just be a phase (my hetero, married w/ 2 kids brother used to prance
around in my dresses as a 6 year old.) Or, honestly, it could be a life-long interest.
You cannot control that. What you can control is making sure he doesn't feel
shamed or guilty about doing what interests him in his own home (as long as it isn't
hurting anyone) . Maybe you can talk to him about how some people might not
understand why he likes to dress up like a girl, so that it's best to just do it at home
for now. It will even be helpful to talk about how some people say things that aren't
nice when they see someone who does things that they don't understand. Just make
sure you continue being the loving mom you obviously are to him. Oh, if you want
to see an interesting movie on a similar subject, rent ''Ma Vie en Rose''.
Have fun w/ it!
I think you need to ask yourself two questions:
1) If you were six years old and lived with your younger sister,
your older sister, and your mother, and had a female babysitter,
no guys around, would you want to be a part of the things that
everyone else in the household was doing (all the girly things)?
I think it's perfectly clear that he's having fun, he's
participating, he's enjoying being included and being a part of
the rest of the all-female household. Who could blame him?
2) If one of your daughters wanted to dress up in a Cub Scouts or
Little League uniform, would you be this concerned and writing in
to BPN for help and advice? More than likely, you wouldn't. It
would be cute, you'd take pictures, and it would be a fun story
you'd tell when she was older.
This only becomess a big deal when you overreact and make it a
big deal (i.e. making him change out of the pajamas and having
him in tears - I don't understand why that would've been at all
necessary). And the thing is: if this is some early sign that he
will later in life be gay, a transvestite, or whatever it is
you're so afraid of...do you think you will prevent him from
being that person by making a big deal out of this and making him
feel bad? You're not going to change who he is. The only thing
you can succeed in doing by overreacting is to repress him or
cause him to feel a lot of resentment towards you when he's older.
He's only six - let him have fun. If you're concerned about how
others will react if they see him in public, then talk to him
about that. He's old enough to understand. Tell him that other
adults and kids at school may tease him or not be very kind/
accepting if they see a boy in girl's clothing, that it may not
be fair but that's the kind of thing that makes some people
uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean there is ANYTHING wrong with
it. He should just be prepared for a reaction, and it may be
more fun and much easier to just do dress up at home.
Take a deep breath. He's a kid, a little one at that
Let Him Be, Worry Less
Oct. 2006
Hello - My 5 yr old son absolutely loves everything to do with
''girl'' things (pink, princesses, make-up) and has no interested
in "boy" things. This is challenging to deal with because it is
socially "okay" for girls to like "boy" things and but is not
"okay" for boys to like "girl" things. My wife and I have been
doing out best to support him in whatever he wants and likes
because either way it doesn't matter to us. With that being
said, he now would like to be a Ariel (from Little Mermaid) for
Halloween and would like to wear this to his Kindergarten parade.
I'm worried about what will happen at school with his peers - I
do not want my son to feel bad for liking things he likes.
Should I support him in his wish to be a mermaid or should we try
and steer him into a different direction?
Angst Daddy
I'd say support your son in his simple desires. Maybe you can
talk to his teachers before the party and ask for their support.
Perhaps you can go with him to his school party and support him
directly. While too common, such hateful attitudes are
frequently unchallenged. I'm not suggesting you make your child
a test case. But these are his wants, and this seems like a good
time to learn that some of the things he wants may not please his
peers. If he is ok with that, and can remain pleased with his
choices, his peers will back down (if he gets intimidated they
won't, however). Only you know the intensity of the situation he
may- or may not- encounter, and how he is likely to deal with
that. But if he can learn that it's ok to be himself he'd be a
leg up on most of us.
- been there as a dad
I know you may be stressing out over this issue, but it brought a smile to my face
because our family is going throught he same thing ...again! My very straight,
conservative brother wanted to dress up as a bride at age 4. This was 30 years ago. It
was his favorite game and we loved taking pictures of him like this! Now his son loves
pink princess dresses and this makes his family a little nervous, but it is OK. This may
be hard to hear and not politically correct, but sometimes kids have to be taught what
is appropriate in public. PS. Our flower girl wore a tux and everyone thought that was
adorable, so we know there is a double standard!
Know How You Feel
i would totally embrace this. it is only socially a no no if you
want it to be. if you don't let him be Ariel you are not being a
nice mommy. in his opinion. he is just a kid let him be. why do
you care anyways. you love him right? that's all that matters. i
don't think your right about it being ok for girls to do boy
things and not for boys to do girl things. i just think boy
things are nore fun so girls want to do them too. who wants to
play with barbies when they could play with a big shiny fire
truck etc.
good luck.
mom with boys
My son wanted to be Cinderella when he was in preschool. He
went through a serious obsession with the Disney princesses for
at least a year. I worried about him being teased; my husband
didn't. He looked adorable in the preschool parade and no one
said a thing. He said to me, ''It's just a costume. I can dress
up like anything I want on Halloween.''
I say go for it. It is just a costume!
Cinderella's mom
Kindergarteners really have no guile among each other, and your
son's friends may giggle only because they delight in your
son's unique choice of costume. Kindergarten may be the last
safe place your son may feel comfortable wearing pink. Let him
do so, at least this year.
another proud Dad
Why not begin by consulting your son's teacher? There's almost
month before Halloween, so there is certainly time for the idea
to be introduced and expectations of behavior ( for both children
and adults ) to be discussed. I think it could be addressed on a
number of levels. I'm sure there's a children's book or two out
there that addresses a boy wanting to dress or play with ''girl''
toys, and surely there are many books about many kinds of
differences. Think about how visible differences are managed at
your son's school, and if you don't know--ask. Last year an
assembly was held at my child's school to discuss the arrival of
a child with visible physical injuries resulting from a land
mine. I'm not suggesting that wearing ''girl'' clothes is a
disability or that you hold an assembly, just that you have the
right to ask for and expect support from the community so that
your son can be who he is.
Susan
My advice would be to explain to your son that it is OK to be
Ariel in the Kindergarten parade but that the other kids may
tease him for dressing as a girl. Tell him that you support
his decision no matter what.
I am not a psychologist, just a Father of a kindergarten boy
who likes ''girl'' things too, as well as ''boy'' stuff.
My thought would be to try to gently encourage him not to, only
because I think at 5-6 years old, kids are not ready to handle
the social stigma attached to crossing gender boundaries. As
he gets older he can deal with it better provided he has the
support and love of his parents which it sounds like he does
anonymous
I'm not sure if this is helpful but we recently watched a
movie, 'Ma Vie in Rose', that is very similar to your
predicament. Have you seen it?
anon
well the easy fix is to be a ''merman'' Ariel's dad-king neptune? It sounds like your
son is experimenting with gender roles. The CHRONICLE ran a front page article
(Sunday edition) about six weeks ago that specifically talked about kids/gender and
confusion. While the article was fairly vanilla-they had a list including a chat forum
for parents with children who fall into that category, they listed some resources. I
would tell him that people are likely to tease him if he is a ''girl''-offer up the
merman idea-if he's still gungho be a mermaid-do it. Maybe you or mom need to
hang out at the Halloween parade-volunteer to work the pre-party-Kids are often
less cruel if there is an adult around. I have a friend who is going thru this with her
daughter-who wishes she was a boy, daily
mom of girl ''zorro''
There is a boy similar to yours in my daughter's kindergarten class; wears butterfly
shirts, pink flip-flops, loves fairy books and recently gave out my pretty pony things
in a birthday goodie bag. My husband and I think how wonderful it must be for him
to have such open, supportive, and unconditionally loving parents. If this is your
son's path, with wanting to be Ariel the beginning of his journey, it would be far
more constructive to teach your son how to cope with the reality of other kids
behavior rather than trying to steer him into being someone he is not. Your
intentions are well meaning - but ultimately will be more damaging in the long run
as your son 'likes what he likes.'' Personally, I think it is awesome that your son is
comfortable being different - what a free divergent thinker! If you approach this as
something to be celebrated, other parents (and their kids) will follow suit. In the
end, it is the courageous parent who cares more about his child's happiness than
his success
Go Ariel!
Dear Dad,
You're probably going to get heaps of responses about this
because...your situation is so common! You're right about there
not being a whole lot of support for boys liking ''girl stuff''
and it does create all kinds of dilemnas for us parents (at our
house it's the ''can he have a princess backpack or princess
shoes without being teased mercilessly'' debate.) But...scratch
the surface and you'll find tons and tons of boys your son' age
who are into all that stuff. My son was Snow White last year
and despite my worries the response of his friends (boys and
girls) was generally great (he got a question here or there but
nothing remotely hostile.) Kindergarten ups the ante a bit
because there are older (but not necessarily wiser) kids
around. I don't think there's any one right answer about
whether your boy should go as Ariel; I just wanted you to know
that he's got a lot of company in the world. And, if it helps
any Disney has finally decided boys are part of it's Princess
market too and has started low grade advertising to them as
well...not that being an advertising target is so great but I
point it out because they wouldn't bother if they hadn't figured
out that boys are a significant part of the princess lovers in
the world.
Whatever you decide aout Halloween, I hope you can really enjoy
this time in your son's life. When I can take a deep breath and
let all the worries about teasing go, I find myself just
enchanted with all the delight and fantasy that my son's love
affair with Snow White et al can bring. If anything
the ''courtly'' style he adopts from that kind of play has helped
him be confident and more friendly is all kinds of social
situations...plus it's all just really sweet and playful.
I wish him and all other princess-boys a wonderful halloween.
Sabine
Snow White's mommy
Your child may have gender identity issues- irrespective of
that, Halloween is Halloween and kids get dressed up in costumes
of all kinds! I understand the desire to protect your son from
possible taunts by other children and also to respect your son's
desires for ''girlie'' things (my son is the same way). Your
concerns are valid AND if there's any time that's appropriate to
dress up in any which way, it's Halloween so let your son be
Ariel or whatever he wants. Perhaps your concerns can be
addressed at another time when it would be a higher risk (like
wearing a dress to school on a regular day) but let him have fun
on Halloween!
my son likes to wear women's jewelry
Dec. 2005
I will be having a 6yr.old simple birthday party for my son, and
he doesn't want Grandma to attend his party because my son is
requesting for a Princess B-day cake, and he is also into a lot
of feminine things in general, but Grandma opposes all this. I
already invited her, but I'm planning to cancel with only the
Grandma, but I will invite the rest of our family. Should I
cancel the invitation for Grandma, and just go ahead w/the
party? Apprehensive-Kath
Kath
Cancel with the Grandma!
Why should he have to feel bad on his special day due to her
judgment? He doesn't want her at his party & he shouldn't have to
have her there.
This will hurt Grandma's feelings and maybe offend her, but I
think she has it coming.
Maybe she will learn that her judgment has consequences. Maybe
she'll lighten up as a result.
anon
The poor little guy. It's his dang birthday, if he wants a
Princess cake he shouldn't have to fight with Grandma about
it. I understand that the older generation sometimes has
strong feelings about this kind of thing (not everyone,
obviously, but my Mom for sure). But I think it's not a good
idea to disinvite Grandma, at least not without a
conversation. I would talk to her about her misgivings and
explain that a Princess cake at six doesn't mean that your son
is gay. AND that if he does turn out to be gay that's because
that's who he is (I'm assuming you feel that way) and he's
going to need all your extra love (and Grandma's) and support
all the way. But we don't have to assume anything right now
because he likes pretty things. And people don't ''become gay''
because they have a Princess cake. I think this conversation
needs to take place to make your position clear. And you can
explain gently to Grandma (without saying that this is coming
from your son) that you can't have negative remarks or
comments, and if she feels she can't restrain herself and
modify her attitude, you'll have to restrict her birthday
involvement to a family dinner (after the Princess party or
something).
Good luck -- help him stand his ground!
a girl who didn't like Princesses
Apprehensive-Kath,
Invite Grandma over and have a chat with her about love and
tolerance. Explain to her how important it is to you that your
healthy, well rounded son continues enjoying life…care-free. Tell
her how much you cherish his innocence and how hard you are
willing to fight to prolong it. Make sure she knows that you will
do anything to protect his spirit - even if you have to protect
him from her. If she is willing to love, cherish, appreciate and
respect him - for HIM, than she can come to the party -
otherwise, tell her to go give him a kiss good-bye. Kath, when
people talk about how hard it is to be a parent – these are the
moments they have in mind. Take Care, and good luck.
A mom
I think this is a good time to teach two lessons. 1) You don't invite everyone and
exclude one person. 2) Don't conform to the pressure of someone's opinion that you
don't agree with. Maybe you should have a talk with the grandmother and tell her
that
you have heard her opinion and you would appreciate it if she kept it to herself.
My two cents
Hi Kath,
I have a boy who also likes princesses. Also, I have a Mom who
has definite ideas about how things should be. I decided to make
the best decisions for my family (my kids), and if she doesn't
like it, let her opt in or out, with the understanding that she
has to behave if she participates. So, I know it's not easy, but
I'd suggest telling her he's going to have a princess party and
he's really excited about it, and if she'd like to come and help
celebrate (i.e. be on good behaviour) she may, but if she is
uncomfortable with it or if she feels she can't control her
opinions, she can skip it. You can also let her know that he is
worried that she will be disapproving, so that she knows she must
really watch her behaviour.
In the end, letting my Mom own her own issues and being firm on
how I am going to do things has made things easier... but in the
beginning, settting out those boundaries was hard! Good luck,
and your son is lucky to have a mom who loves him for who he is!
anon
Disinviting the grandma isn't going to solve the overall
problem. You need to be your son's advocate. Talk to the
grandma (is this your mother-in-law?). Find out what bothers
her about your son's interests. Some boys love feminine things
just as some girls love masculine things. Letting them explore
their interests is the best thing to do. If she's afraid he's
gay you can tell her that denying him feminine things isn't
going to change that. If he isn't, giving them to him won't
change that either. One of my son's best friends had the same
interests till he was about eleven. He had dolls and wore long
swishy capes for years. It was hard on him because his
grandfather was a real pill about it. All it did was make their
relationship more difficult. If the grandmother can’t be
comfortable at the party then tell her it would be best if she
didn’t come because it’s a special day for your son. If this is
your husband's mother, get him to protect his son. You don't
have to be the bad guy.
Hang in there.
another protective mom
It sounds like your son is pretty clued in. He should get to
enjoy his birthday as he wants it, and he is lucky to have a mom
that loves him for who he is and what he's into. If grandma
doesn't unconditionally love him, and he is actually aware of it,
why rain on his parade by having her present? Even if she agrees
to ''suck it up'' during the party, he will possibly feel repressed
or uncomfortable, since he already knows where she stands.
It ain't easy, but there is a way to be loving and firm, and
explain to her why she's not coming. Perhaps suggest an
alternative birthday luncheon that she could host for him, if he
has a good relationship with her outside of the gender issue.
Remember, he comes first. We often get bogged down in trying tpo
please family, and that can get in the way of our kids'
experience. Good luck, and Happy Birthday!
Pro-Princess Boys
This is a sticky situation especially since you've already
invited her. Also, if she speaks later to other family members
and it slips that the party was not cancelled, there could be a
lot of hurt feelings on her part. You didn't mention if this
was your mom or in-law, but maybe you can speak to her about the
situation. It is your son's party, he chose what he wanted, it
is inappropiate for her to make him feel bad about his choices
(unfortunately you'll probably have to listen to it
regardless). I personally would even as far to say that if she
cannot attend his party to celebrate the occassion of his birth
without making rude/innappropriate comments about his choice in
cake/theme, then she is not welcome to attend (I am very
straight to both my mom and my in-laws when it comes to my
son). I would also find ways to limit her time with him,
especially if your son is saying she does not want her there
(there may be something more significant going on between the
two than just the outward dissapproval she has of his ''feminine
choices.'' I can understand this being difficult and not wanting
to alienate your son from his Grandma (and vice versa). Though
it seems obvious to me that she is saying something to him if he
doesn't want her there because he is going to have a princess
cake.
nothing wrong with princess b-day for a boy
Instead of uninviing Grandma, you might consider simply requesting that she
either support your son in having the birthday that he wants, or that she not
attend.
Anon
not to rain on your jubilee, but maybe grandma's got a point, however insensitively
expressed. a princess party for a six year old boy? god bless him, but it's hard
enough coming out in high school. while the other six year olds will have fun and
not be self-conscious, at twelve, when totally self- conscious and jerky, they'll
look back and remember him as that kid. set some limits or prepare for moving your
beautiful and imaginative but lonely, weird and possibly resentful son
around.
prince charming
I have never understood this double standard for boys and girls. If your
son was a girl and had a ______ (Thomas the train engine, or car or
some ''boy'' themed) birthday party would grandma oppose? What is
not fair about sexism is that boy's don't get to become more emotionally
mature and feel safe to express a wide range of emotions in all aspects
of life.
Now, on the subject of family. This is your son's birthday party, this is not
Grandma's birthday party. Be very clear about this. I would suggest that
if she comes then you set some ground rules: One, this is her
grandson's birthday. He was asked what he would like and this was
what he chose. Two, Grandma is invited on the condition that she not
say one negative thing about his choice of Birthday cake. Three, a
negative attitude will not be tolerated. What she chooses to do is up to
her. It is also important is that if there is a father in the picture that he
support his son's choice.
Remember, this is the grandmother's issue not yours. Perhaps she
thinks that this means that he is gay. That is probably the root fear. The
truth of the matter is that there are plenty of straight women who were
tomboys and plenty of straight men who were sissies. There are plenty
of lesbians who played with dolls and are very femmy girls and plenty of
gay men who played with trains, trucks, cars and who played football. It
takes all kinds.
Rachel
Maybe Grandma would benefit from seeing the French film, Ma Vie en Rose (My Life in
Pink). It's about a little boy whose family tries to squash his feminine tendencies.
Maybe Grandma isn't ready to see it yet, but I highly recommend the film.
donna2
The question but mostly all of the answers really surprised me.
Well, I guess nothing surprises me anymore in the Bay Area.
People here congratulate themselves for being tolerant. I couldnt disagree more.
People should be able to tolerate the close family if nothing or have a high
threshold for cutting things off as it was suggested to you!!
Let me give you a foreigner's perspective who come from a very family oriented
culture. RELAX! and DON'T EXAGERATE! It's a birthday. He'll have many many of those.
And he'll have many many special days. No need to exagerate the celebrations,
gradma's response, his response etc etc. You can't uninvite or exclude the grandma
because she feels different. Remember she is related as well. Your son needs her and
he'll be better off having a grandma around than not (unless she is very obviously
abusive). Kids should not grow up in a vacuum filled only with the nuclear family
and good things in life. They love and need having family around.
If you think your son is really hurt by her opinion, you can talk to her. But this
is not something you need to exert your power on. This is not about who owns or
controls the kids or what they encounter. You can have a conversation with her
without threatening to cut her off.
anon
Sept 2005
My friend has a four and half year old boy and a girl who just
turned three. Her son wants to be a girl. He is into the Disney
princesses, he actually cries at night because he wants to have
long hair, he wants to put on his mothers lipstick and plays
dress up with his sisters stuff. His mother took him to the
Disney store to pick out a halloween costume, but he wanted to be
tinkerbell! After a lot of persuassion he agreed to be captain
hook. Even at storytime, he wants to hear snow white and the
seven dwarfs, sleeping beauty, etc.
How does his mother handle this? She is afraid if she makes it
an issue, he will push it more. He never plays with cars, he
does like scooby doo and harry potter, but prefers markers,
crayons etc.
As I began reading your post I thought you might be writing about me and my son, except that I don't have a 3 year old daughter, I have another boy as the younger sibling. I'm still pretty surprised by how similar our stories are. My 4 1/2 year old son became obsessed with princesses at the age of 2 and for the last 2 years has not gone a single day without wearing some sort of dress, either at home with us, at his friends houses, even at school. At first my husband and I thought it was pretty cute, even encouraged it since it brought out such imaginative play and really focused his 'intense' personality, wearing a dress was sort of like his cocktail, it just seemed to calm him down and take the edge off. Anyway, it started to take over our lives, he wouldn't do anything or go anywhere without his dress on, wanted to sleep in it, god forbid I had to wash it, I had to pry it off his body. So we put some limits in and said dresses were only for at home and only after his !
nap, they became a kind of currenc
So, your friend is not alone and if she wants to get in touch with another mom going through this pass along my email, maybe we could get them together for a play-date!
What I find interesting is that it probably wouldn't be so worrisome to parents who have a daughter who wants to be a boy. Girls and women get away with wearing ''boys''' clothes, playing ''boys''' game, reading ''boys'' books... But when it's the other way around, we are concerned. Children are always exploring themselves, learning about themselves, forming and changing opinions about their likes and dislikes. I think your friend's son should be embraced in his process of exploring - and as much as possible, his parents should try not to impose their own fears on him. I am always so amazed by how confident children are, and then sadenned when I remember that around adolescence, so much of that confidence is eroded. Then as adults we have to rebuild our confidence, which isn't easy when we're so influenced by society. Let the child read the books he wants, watch the movies he wants (assuming they aren't violent or too mature for him), dress how he wants for Halloween. And ex!
plain to him that he doesn't live
My 2 cents
Gender and gender expression is such a sensitive thing for people.
Girls and women are able to get away with wearing whatever we want.
(Ever see Marlene Dietrich in a tux? Wow!) Boys and men however are not able to get away with wearing whatever they want. And why is that?
Would anyone ever ask if they have a girl who wants to play with ''boy''
stuff on this forum? I doubt it.
To him right now, being a girl has nothing to do with anatomy and it has more to do with what girls are ''allowed to do'' versus what boys are ''allowed to do.''
Most kids think that if a man puts on a dress then he ''becomes'' a woman. To kids gender is fluid.
When it comes down to it. You can not dictate what your son likes or dislikes. This may be a phase and it might not be. Certainly as your son gets older and he still wants to be a girl then there is concern about safety.
While my son (now 10) has never said he wanted to be a girl, he has always loved ''frilly'' stuff. His dad nixed the baby dolls when he was a toddler, but later had a change of heart and made no comment about stuffed animals, a dress in the toy box, sometimes magic marker toenails, etc. which he enjoys to this day. He also loves dancing. He is also incredibly intelligent and more mature than many his age (and rather likes being different while keeping most of the trappings of what is expected from a 10 year old boy). I tell him that he is more in tune with himself and more confident about expressing himself than most boys his age. However, I do sometimes comment that ''well if you choose the glitter sneakers (and wear them to school), you may be teased because for some reason, many kids think only girls are supposed to like glitter which is weird cause many guys wear
jewelry) and he's generally chosen to ''conform''. At your child's age, ''I want to be a girl'' MAY be the same as ''I like things that I think only girls are supposed to like'' or maybe he really DOES want to be a girl, but time will tell. In the meantime, I suggest letting him do at least some of the ''girly'' things he likes and gently letting him know that while its okay to do so, that some things may have social costs that he should know about first (at elementary school age: no one can see toe nail polish and glitter sneakers can be worn at home - or maybe sneakers with silver trim can be the choice!! - on the other hand at really young ages like your child, wearing a dress in public isn't a big deal).
I think the issue is that alot of adults put sexuality on kid behavior when generally kids are not even understanding what sex and gender are all about yet. And, I think that sensitive, bright children are more likely to explore than other kids. So, I think its important to be supportive of that exploration while NOT making assumptions of where that exploration is headed. My son wears fake toe polish sometimes and still likes stuffed animals and glittery stuff at the same time he's starting to grin about girls - future hetero cross dresser? maybe - but also maybe a guy who's more confident than most to do what he likes not what he is expected to like - or come to think of it, I guess a cross dresser IS a guy who's more confident than most to do what he likes not what he is expected to like!
anonymous
My question is why is it so important that her son's tastes rigidly conform to acceptable ideals?
The issue here is not that the son has ''wrong'' tastes, but whether or not they will accept their son as he is, without shame or judgment - after all, if you cannot feel acceptance and unconditional love from your parents, how can you possibly develop a healthy self esteem? This is a tall order when faced with a parent's fears about how genders should behave and think, I know. I'd struggle with this too were it in my face, but it deserves some attention (within themselves), because from what you wrote, it seems likely that their son's tastes will continue very long-term.
The other option is to ''re-train'' his tastes through shame and disapproval, telling him how boys are supposed to play and be.
This will only provide suppression for 1-2 decades.
I realize my ideas require his parents to step widely outside of their comfort zones.
Ah, kids. So good at forcing us to face our fears and inner demons.
Your posting really caught my attention because I have a good friend who has a condition referred to as Gender Identity Disorder and I've learned quite a bit about it. People with this condition feel strongly that they are one gender although it is different from their biological gender. The condition is fairly rare, although it's hard to know because many people with it are likely to remain closeted, and it seems to happen much more often in men/boys than in women. If it occurs, the first signs of it are normally around the age of 5 years old, around the time kids become aware of the differences between genders. Your friend's son may or may not turn out to have this condition, but I've noticed that all of the past discussions on the WEB site in response to similar questions focus solely on staying open-minded and just letting kids dress and act in whatever way they want (which is great and something that I definitely agree with), but there's no mention of the slight poss!
ibility that the behavior is somet
Friend of an adult boy who's a girl
dresses when I want to.
I know plenty of lesbians who played with dolls and did all the ''girl'' stuff.
I know plenty of lipstick lesbians who are so high femme it would astound you.
It takes all kinds.
Gender bender
May 2002
This is a sensitive subject for my friend, who although she does
subscribe to this list, is hesitant to post.
She's a single mom of a 3 1/2 year old boy (dad is not around a lot, and
not necessarily a good role model for either sex). As her son has grown,
he's shown a stronger preference towards all things ''girly'' - insisting on
wearing floral pants, pink shirts, being a farily princess for Halloween,
playing with Barbies, and even referring to himself as a girl.
His mom has been great with it, buying him the clothes he prefers and
defending her purchase of Barbies for him to Walgreen's staff (though
she does keep reminding him that he is a boy).
But kindergarten looms closer, and she knows elementary school can
be very harsh. She wants to know what to do to help her son be himself
and cope with the inevitable cruelty of other kids (and adults) towards
anyone who is ''different''.
Anyone else been through this? Should she take him to a
counselor/child psychiatrist, not necessarily to change him, but to help
prepare him and help him understand the bigger world and himself? If
so, who? Any books or support groups?
Thanks.
a sympathetic friend
Hi,
I work at Children's Hospital Oakland Research Institute. Couple of
months ago, we had a seminar on the subject you have question. First,
we watched a French movie called '' Ma vien rosa'' It is exactly what
you are telling me here: A boy want to be a girl. Watch this movie,
really. Later, there was a discussion and talk. The name of the
child psychiatrist is Herbert Schreier, M.D.
There was another person from SF Pacific center
at that meeting.
I hope it would be useful for you.
take care.
Berna
My daughter did the same thing when she was 31/2
although the reverse. She wanted to be a boy so she could
be just like daddy. In Spanish, which we speak at home
words change with the gender and she wanted to be
reffered to always in the masculine. She even wanted to be
called the male version of her name. We found it endearing
and played along with her. She definately grew out of it and
started using her given name in kindergarten. She is now a
fifth grader and has always been very happy and well
adjusted. I understand that in our society we have a stigma
against boys wanting to be girls but there really isn't any
difference between a boy doing that or a girl. It is too bad
that we hold boys to such rigid gender rules. He is exploring
his world. Definately don't worry about what his peers will
say. They aren't too in tune with gender rules yet and if
anything will just think he is a girl. Chances are he'll grow
out of it in a few years. If not, well at least you'll have
someone to go shopping with. :-)
Liza
As a mom of a wonderfully well rounded 7 year old boy I just had
to repond to this subject. Please tell your friend to relax and
let him be his wonderful creative 3 1/2 year old self. At that
age my son loved all of the pretty dress-up costumes, Barbie
dolls and yes at times he said he was a girl. At age 4 and 5 for
Halloween he was Mulan with full make-up, wig and that beautiful
red dress. He's now in first grade at a public school and he
still likes Barbie dolls, Nicole Kidman(Moulin Rouge),Star Wars,
Light Sabers, Legos, acting, dancing, writing books,bugs and
worms, etc. He is one of the sweetest most sensitive boys you'll
ever meet with lots of friends that are girls and boys. We
taught him to always be himself and be proud of who he is
because we think he's pretty special. Please tell your friend
not to take him to a kid shrink...instead have her call me. It's
o.k. to be different....it doesn't mean that something is bad or
wrong. We're all different in one way or another.
One of Nico's Moms....ahh yes he has two...another wonderful
difference
here's my phone incase your friend wants to call me.
Diana
I wrote the original question that's on the website for my
sister. I asked her what advice she'd give to you.
This is her answer.
''That letter is so much like the one you wrote 4 years ago, and
the ##%& Dr. from the Clarke Institute wrote!
Just have them start here, there's a lot of info. on the
internet, and some parents groups for T children. Maybe you can
mention that all children are different and all your parents
could teach their children that important fact.
http://www.pflag.org/support/gay.html
Send this one too.
http://www.youth-guard.org/pflag-t-net/ ''
I had hoped that she would give an update, but I guess not. I
think he's still into Barbies, but knows that boys his age don't
tolerate it, so mitigates his behavior when around them.
The Aunt
I am of the opinion that the boy who says he wants to be/is a
girl should NOT simply ''be accepted for who he is.'' There are
very complex psychological and emotional reasons why a child
might want to take on the trappings of the other gender. As a
social worker I have known several cases like this where, with
the help of a talented and experienced child therapist, children
were able to resolve their gender identity issues while still in
early childhood, preventing an enormous amount of suffering
during adolescence and later in life. The cost for such
treatment need not be prohibitive. One resource is the low fee
child psychoanalytic clinic at the San Francisco Psychoanalytic
Institute. The phone number is (415)563-5815.
Anonymous
There was an article in the New York Times magazine last Sunday
on the issue. If you would like to read it online go to
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/26/magazine/26BOYGIRL.html
for the complete story.
Angela
I've read these messages and responses and am surprised and
heartened by the amount of boys out there that don't ''fit'' and
don't identify with the standard definition of a boy. It makes me
think that it is our definition that is wrong and that our boys
are not being allowed to display normal boy behaviour. That
said....I do not think a boy wanting to be a girl is necessarily
a psychological issue. My son (grew up with two older sisters)
had a barbie doll he liked to play with, had a skirt he loved to
put on and spin in and really liked the color pink. He never
worried about being a girl or a boy. One day his grandmother, who
was very concerned by these ''tendencies'' pulled him into another
room and told him only girls were allowed to play with barbies,
wear skirts, like pink. My son came into my room after this, his
eyes full of tears (he was 4) and said ''I want to be a girl!''.
Definitely not what grandma was aiming for.
Many years later, talking to a therapist about my son and his
difficulties finding friends I commented that he was sensitive
and liked poetry. She replied ''Have you considered that he might
be gay?''
Both these people (the grandma and the therapist) outraged me. I
have seen no studies that correlate poetry to homosexuality. I
think homosexuality is about sex and sexual attraction. My son
may or may not turn out to be gay. He's certainly going to have
gender identity issues if he's hearing things like ''you like
poetry (barbies, pink, dancing, purple, gymnastics, etc., etc)
you must be gay!'' Or he gets the message that he cannot indulge
in activities that he enjoys unless he is a girl.
My son stopped wanting to be a girl when I told him in no
uncertain terms that he was perfectly free to play with the
barbie doll (his sister had tons of them and played all the time,
of course he'd want to) and be a boy, and explained that grandma
had older ideas and we did not agree. Sadly this does not mean he
wasn't shamed by other people or that he did not hide his barbie
when other kids came around.
How do we go about gaining acceptance for our boys? How do we go
about changing perceptions of what's allowable behaviour in boys
(dancing is very common in other countries for example). Or how
do we create an environment, community, space where our boys can
be themselves and see that there are other boys like them and
that they are all ''real boys''?
Mother of an 11 year old ''real'' boy
I'm one of the people who wrote in the last time this topic
came up. You can find my post in the archives towards the
bottom of the page. I'm the mom who took her son out of a
daycare situation because the daycare provider was not
letting him wear dresses or play with Barbies. Well, here's
an update, about a year after that happened.
At 4 1/4, my son no longer refers to himself as a girl. He still
occasionally wears pink dresses but is now into capes and
tights (the superhero look). I had to undo the seams on one
of his skirts to make it into a cape. After spending a year's
worth of allowance and gift money to build up a huge Barbie
collection, he has now declared that he ''hates'' Barbie (of
course, he'll play with the Barbies when neighborhood girl
friends come over :-) His new interests are Bionicles and
PowerPuff Girls. His latest pair of sneakers were girl's
PPGs. In restaurants he wants to use the Men's bathroom
(and luckily doesn't put up a fight when I tell him he has to
come with me into the Women's). And now here's the irony-
he is now asking to go back to the old daycare provider,
saying he just won't wear a dress to her house! (last year I
had a huge rebellion, tears and everything)
I think what has happened is that he has gotten the
message, from various elements in our society (older
brother, TV shows and commercials, other children) that
power is associated with being male. I'm actually a little
sad to see him lose his innocence on this point, but I'm very
glad I reacted to the situation as I did; that is, I switched him
to an environment which downplayed the whole thing and let
him find his own way.
There is a huuuuuuge difference between a 3 year old and a
5 year old Kindergartener. Most of the 3 year olds I know
have not completely figured out the gender thing. My older
son was at his brother's birth just before age 3. I had
completey prepared him about female anatomy, and he's
seen me naked plenty of times, yet several months after the
birth, when he saw a girl friend naked for the first time, he
remarked ''What a big penis you have!''
I wouldn't worry about the teasing thing until Kindergarten
itself. If he's still calling himself a girl, you can gently give
him the information that our society, rightly or wrongly, thinks
that people of a certain gender should do things certain
ways. I don't think you need a therapist to give over that
information. OTOH, if the situation is really worrying the
mom, maybe *she* should see a therapist to keep her own
sanity.
---Sophie
I have been reading the various posts with a lot of interest. I
have a 7 1/2 year old son who has said from time to time over
the last 2 or 3 years that he wants to be a girl. However, as
he has gotten more social savvy/conscious he has learned to say
it to fewer and fewer people.
Of course as a parent I have a wide range of reactions to his
gender-fluidity. I want to protect him from a society that is
not accepting of those with non-traditional expressions of
gender and sexuality. I want him to be satisfied with who he
is. I want him to be confident enough to stand up for who he
is. Then alongside my concerns for him I have my own ''gunk''.
Though I would wish not to be affected by the judgments of
others, I nonetheless worry about how others will view my
parenting. This fear of other people's judgements is compounded
by the fact that my son has two mothers and thus I am faced with
people's spoken or unspoken accusations that my son's gender
identity non-coformity is due to his family structure.
In order to educate myself I have done a little research over
the last few years, both formal (reading articles) and informal
(talking to adults about their childhood experience of gender).
I also spoke with a psychologist who specializes in gender
issues who said my son may or may not grow up to be gay (or
bisexual), and he may or may not grow up with a non-traditional
expression of gender, and he may or may not want to go through a
sex change as an adult. Whatever the case she said we should
not get particularly reactive, since we can't control it.
All of my very un-scientific research has led me to believe that
the best thing I can do for my son is to recognize that his
gender identity is just that: HIS, not mine. It is my job to
protect him while he is young gradually giving him more and more
of the reins. I am honest with him about the world we live in
and tell him at some point it will be up to him whether he wants
to get the pretty pink tennis shoes, or wear a skirt outside, or
whatever, but for now he is still too young to take on the fear
and ignorace of others. When he mentions gender I acknowledge
it acceptingly but without much fanfare, just like if he were to
tell me he wanted to be a firefighter. I respond to who he is,
I get him toys, etc. that meet his interests and at the same
time make sure that there are other items available as well so
that there is always opportunity to try new things. I hope that
in time, he can expand the definition of male to include who he
is as he is. If not I will try to remember my basic tenant - it
is his gender identity not mine.
As to the issue someone raised about ''getting help''. There are
psychologists out there who will try to alter people's gender
and sexual identity to fit into the societal norms. It is
resoundingly ''unsuccessful'' and wreaks havoc on the individuals
who go through it. If a child is having social or emotional
problems a good therapist can be invaluable but there is nothing
inherently problematic with gender non-conformity, except the
societal rigidity. As to the issue of ''it doesn't mean he'll be
gay.'' No it doesn't mean it, but it is more likely. Many more
gay men than straight men were gender-fluid as children. And
being ''gay'' is NOT primarily a sexual issue, when 5 year old
girls pretend to marry Prince Eric it is a heterosexual game but
certainly not sexual in nature.
To those who know and love a gender-fluid child, may you find
the serenity to weather the storm that gets generated around
them. And may all of us remember that the world is not as
narrow as it often seems and some of the most interesting stuff
happens on the outer fringes of what we assumed was possible.
Shastine (mother of 2 fablous children)
Dec 2001
There was something about this on the archives, which helped me
somewhat, but it was about boys wearing dresses, not princess dresses!
My son asked me to buy him a dress almost a year ago. I sidestepped
the issue by buying him an outfit from an Indian fabric store on
University: a lovely white embroidered tunic with matching drawstring
pants, which he loves. He's always loved finery and pretty things,
insists on drinking his hot cocoa out of my father's 1950's china for
example. Two weeks ago, we dropped my son off at the neighbors, came
back a couple of hours later, and he greeted us at the door wearing an
elaborate velvet, crinoline, sequined confection of a princess dress
with a matching pink feather headband. He looked beautiful. My
husband, from Venezuela, held his tongue, but only barely. The
neighbors exchanged glances. I care less about what the neighbors
think, but still feel I need to tread carefully. When it came time to
go, and my son had to take off the dress, he cried bitterly. Now he
wants a princess dress. My question is: Should I buy him a princess
dress, say it's for dress up inside the house only, and make sure
there are other costumes as well, such as a king or a prince? My
feeling is, he's only a child and dress up is just that, make believe,
playtime. Also, it troubles me that girls can dress up as a king,
sultan, musketeer, and everyone thinks it's cute, but when a boy wants
to be a princess, it's another story. I want to support my son in his
emerging sense of self and exploration, but I don't want to do
anything unwise. What does this community think? What would you do? Is
it a big deal, or not?
Thank you!
Christy
Christy,
I think that you should buy him a princess dress. Have him help pick
it out, or if you are a seamstress, go pick out fabrics and a pattern
and make him one to his desires. Encourage him to be whoever he wants
to be, and in trying on many different roles, female and male, he will
be an extraordinary, empathetic, and courageous person.
scott
I know it is hard to disregard the social stigma, but I really wouldn't
worry about it at your son's tender age. Your plan to keep it as one of a
number of in-home costumes makes much sense to me. It is really unfair that
boys don't have access to flowing fabrics and beautiful clothes.... We have
a boy that loves dressing up this way to this day (he is 10), and very
clearly knows with whom and where that kind of attire is acceptable.
I would like to piggy-back on your question and ask if anyone in the
community has an inkling of when this kind of behavior is a reflection of a
stereotype-free home (which I hope ours to be) and when it is actually a
child's immerging sexual self.
GET HIM A DRESS!! He is just expressing a very creative side that he has
and better to let him express it openly than to suppress it and cause
conflict. Creativity expression comes in many forms. We have friends with
sons like yours and they have now out grown this dress up in dresses phase
at age six. They are also extremely bright, artistic, sensitive to others
and extremely fun kids to be around. Let your son have fun in fantasy
play! Remember, boys look up to their mom's, too, and this could also be
his way of identifying with you and the finer things you might
enjoy. Don't stress out, have fun!
I haven't encountered this issue myself, but my heart goes out to you. It's
so hard to know what to do--and satisfy so many (conflicting) societal
pressures. However, you sound like a very thoughtful and understanding
parent, so I'm sure you will do the best thing for your son.
My suggestion would be to get a whole costume box--princess dress, sultan,
toga, king, knight, witch, etc--and explain that the princess dress stays in
the make-believe box. A boy can't be a real princess, but he can pretend to
be one, just like he can pretend to be a lion or a king. You can indulge his
love of finery, and let him wear it all he wants at home (because it's
dress-up, not school clothes, right?). At some point peer pressure might
squash his desire to dress up in girl's clothes (or force it out of
view)--which you might desire or not--but at least the pressure's not coming
from you. The message from Mom and Dad is thus, it's OK to try out different
identities in our house.
I have acquaintances whose 6-year-old boy is very into Barbie--clothes and
hair and the whole bit, and I admit it gives me pause to see him bringing her
with him wherever he goes. (For that matter, they also let him wear his
Superman cape wherever he goes, too. What a combo!) They didn't want to make
an issue out of it, and I hope their kid someday appreciates what brave and
open-minded parents he has.
vamai
I was at a friend's daughter's birthday party when a four-year-old boy
dashed in, ran to the dress-up box, and put on a sequined gold lame'
dress. I looked at my friend with curiosity and she said that he made
a beeline for the dress every time he came over. I got a kick out of
him seeing him ride a bigwheel in it. He did that for months whenever
he came over, but he is five now and doesn't wear it anymore. I think
your idea of getting a variety of fancy clothing, men's and women's is
a good one.
susan
I read a good article in the New York Times magazine titled The Way We Live
Now on February 27, 2000 that might be helpful to you. The article was
written by a Berkeley mom, Fernanda Moore, who let her 3 year-old son wear a
pink tutu for a day. You can purchase the article online by going to
http://www.nytimes.com, then doing a search on the magazine section of the
paper, and "pink tutu" .
My four year old has worn costume dresses his whole life. He loves to play
princess. What is it that you're afraid of? That he'll be gay? Maybe he
is, maybe he isn't. It's about biology, not couture. Would you prevent your
daughter from playing fire-fighter? My son loves his tulle and velvet, and
his legos, his superheroes, and, incidentally, origami.
Ayelet
My mother -in-law tells me that my husband was fond of wearing a dress from about age
three to four. Thankfully she did not treat his desire to wear a dress as a sign that he
was struggling with his gender identity and squelch him because I believe that would
have sent him the wrong message. I'm not an expert on this subject by any means but I
think children need to be free to explore and imaginary play is a wonderful way for them
to do that. I acknowledge that it's a more sensitive issue for boys to wear dresses than it
is for girls to wear things that are typically worn by males in our society but I would
urge you to try and relax and let go of how others might perceive your son's choices.
I worked in a daycare where a 4-year old boy consistently chose the
princess clothes out of the dress-up box during playtime. He did not
enjoy playing in the playground, building things, cars & trucks, or any
"boy" toys. He was the sweetest little thing, totally happy, and not
hurting a soul. We all snickered about it some, but more because even
in the conservative, private Christian school environment that we were
in, it was dead-on clear that this little boy had some feminine
tendencies. That's just who he was. I don't recall what his parents
thought about it (though I believe his father, who was fairly
traditional east Indian, may have been uncomfortable with it), and I
have no idea how he turned out or whether he had any other problems. My
suspicion was that he was gay or transsexual, or transgender. But from
spending 8 hours a day with him, there was no question for any of the
caregivers that letting him do what he wanted to do and not making a big
deal of it was best for the child. And the other kids didn't have a
problem with it either, since they weren't yet stereotyped and they
didn't yet have any sexual phobias. Why not let him pick out a princess
dress (and other dress-up clothes, if he wants them) from a thrift
store, and keep them for his dress up clothes? If you're uncomfortable
with him doing it outside of the house (hopefully because you don't want
him to be teased, as opposed to not wanting him to have princess
tendencies, if that's really who he ends up being), you can always say
that dress-up clothes are only for home. Which is sensible anyway. It
may be a phase, and it may not be. Don't worry, and help him learn who
he is and feel proud of himself, and build that self-esteem!
You must rent the movie Ma Vie en Rose (My Life in Pink), which is about
exactly this. You wrote:
> My feeling is, he's only a child and dress up is just that, make believe,
> playtime. Also, it troubles me that girls can dress up as a king,
> sultan, musketeer, and everyone thinks it's cute, but when a boy wants
> to be a princess, it's another story. I want to support my son in his
> emerging sense of self and exploration, but I don't want to do
> anything unwise. What does this community think? What would you do? Is
> it a big deal, or not?
I think you are *exactly right.* At 3-5 virtually all kids love pretty
things, things that flow and swirl. They also use dress up to explore
fantasies and roles, including gender roles. To address the discomfort
others feel (and my mother and I didn't speak for 4 months over my son's red
dress), ask yourself what is the worst thing it means. Does it mean that he
may be gay, transgender or transexual? Will you love him less? I think if
those things were the case and he is expressing it this young, then
forbidding it won't change his inclinations, but allowing it will support
him. Either way, you will have allowed him the joy of expression, and be
thankful we're in Berkeley.
Dana
It's my feeling that if I were in your position, I would get him the dress.
We do so much sex stereotyping here that soon enough, he will discover that
most little boys don't wear dresses (I do not support the stereotyping).
It's important to encourage your child to pursue whatever makes him happy
while he can. He will appreciate your openness later in life (especially if
he wishes to continue and finds resistance from society). I have talked to
many people who lead "alternative" lifestyles and more often, the judging,
comments, criticism, and resisitance from family members did not change
their desire to live how they will - only made them resent their family or
hide it from them. I certainly do not mean to imply that your son will lead
an "alternative" lifestyle, but we need to start with children at a young
age - teaching them to accept differences and show them our support
regardless of their desires. Kids don't understand the "why" in many of our
moral rules - especially gender roles. He won't understand your resistence
either. A very cute movie that has a little boy just like this is "Ma Vie
En Rose" ("My Life in Pink").
I recommend making your home a safe place for your
son's self expression. Isn't that what homes and families
should be about? Celebrate his appreciation for
fine details. Does he like to draw or paint?
I know other young boys who like to
dress up. I agree with you that boys should be allowed
to dress up as both genders, just as girls are allowed.
If some work needs to be done in your family to provide
for a supportive environment, then focus on that work.
Your son sounds wonderful, and perfectly normal! I have two girls, so I
am not an expert on boys, but I do know that my brother loved to dress
up in tutus as a young boy, and my parents let him (and this was in the
'60s!). A few boys at my daughter's preschool put on the dress-up
dresses as soon as they walked in the door each day, and wore them all
day. They were princesses and fairies for halloween, and the delight of
everyone! I am having a boy in the next month, and I already know that
if he ever wants to play with Barbie, or dress in dresses, I will do
everything I can to support his wants and needs. I know lots of parents
who let their sons dress up in the house, and even sleep in nightgowns,
but not in public. This seems to work okay for everyone. The last
thing you want to do is let your son know that you (or his father)
disapprove of who he is, which is the message he will receive. Boys DO
cry, boys DO like to dress up, boys DO like Barbies, and these are the
boys who will grow up to be loving, caring, secure men. The last thing
this world needs is more gun obsessed boys! One last thing, have you
ever read the book, William Wants A Doll? I don't know who the author
is, but it is a lovely book worth buying or getting from the library
(for both your son and your husband).
Why not? Who does it hurt if your son plays out his dress up fantasies
in a princess dress? I believe your son is at far greater risk
(emotionally, self-esteem wise) if denied this opportunity, especially
if it comes with a homophobic response. I suggest you see the
wonderful French film that came out two plus years ago called, "Ma Vie
En Rose" - about an effeminate young boy who wants to wear dresses.
Provide a wide range of dress up costumes for him to choose from. Perhaps he
might be interested in the theater one day...
Maya
My son, when in preschool, was best friends with the girl who lived next
door who was just a touch younger then him. They had elaborate dress up
games and "performances" and they would often wear each other's clothes
during these play times. One day he decided he wanted to wear one of her
VERY feminine dresses to preschool - red with white polka dots and large
ruffles at the hem. Knowing that his school would be nonjudgmental, I let
him wear it, cringing inside all the while, especially since we walked
several blocks to get to school. (He looked soo cute!) He wore the dress
all morning at school with no problems. They continued their dress-up games
until she moved away, but he didn't go out in public again in a dress. He
is now a very masculine 16 year old. Who knows when they are so young where
their inclinations will take them eventually, but I personally did not see
any harm in him dressing in girl's clothes.
Christy, it sounds like you already have the answer! I totally agree
with you - dress up is about trying things on to see how it
feels. What is wrong with that? It's just the fears and paranoia of
adults who read things into it...of course only in regards to boys, as
you said. My son, at 3 yrs old, wanted red shiny leather mary janes
while shopping for shoes. I didn't buy them, because at the time he
totally caught me by surprise. I didn't know what to do, so I
distracted him. Later, when he went to preschool I asked his teacher,
a very wise woman who knows a great deal about child development. She
suggested taking him to buy some dress up clothes - whatever he wanted
to pick. She also had a full array of dress up clothes at school. That
provided a safe way to him to try things on.
He used to complain that he wanted breasts too (or "nursies" as he
called them) and that he wanted to be a girl. When he was around five
years old, he wanted a Barbie doll. That was a hard one for his Dad
to swallow - he tried to offer him tons of other toys at the toy
store, but nothing worked. He got the Barbie doll, the one that came
with a seal and diving outfit. She became his favorite bath time toy,
and all his nurturing came out with her as well. When he brought her
to preschool for "sharing", one of the boys in his class told him that
"boys can't play with Barbie dolls". I was working there that day, so
I told him that actually boys could play with Barbie dolls or anything
else they chose. He looked at me wide-eyed and ran off screaming with
excitement through the school "Hey, boys CAN play with Barbies!" It
was quite a moment!
Now, at nine years old he seems very secure in his masculinity, and is
so well rounded. He loves soccer, rollerblading in the skateboard
park, and being really active, as well as cooking, painting, knitting,
and sewing. I think it's all about letting them be who they are and
giving them the space to find that out without judgment. so, go with
your gut! Anonymous
My boys (7 and 5) have always had dresses available to them to wear
for dress up and normal wear. They stopped wearing dresses in public
(i.e. normal everyday wear) around 3 or 4. I don't see any reason
your boy shouldn't have a princess dress - if we could afford one, I'd
get one for my boys (whenever we playdate and they play dressup, they
love the glittery princess stuff).
Kathy
Get him a princess dress. Tell him it's for dressup indoors. Tell
his dad it's just a stage (it might be easier on both of them if your
son wears the princess dress when dad's out of the house, but don't
make an issue of it). As you say, little girls cross-dress, why can't
little boys? I don't know that there's any connection with boys
cross-dressing and growing up to be gay. Lots of gay men were "all
boy" as children (and "all guy" as adults). You know wearing
particular kinds of clothing doesn't affect later sexual orientation,
or why do we accept little girls who dress up in male role costumes?
It's an intriguing question: Why do we think it's attractive for women
and girls to wear masculine clothes, but we are disturbed by men and
boys who wear feminine clothes? Is is further glorification of the
masculine and denigration of the feminine? Is it evidence of women
and girls becoming more powerful? This wasn't always true; not so
long ago, girls and women were shamed by society if they wanted to
wear masculine clothes. A lot of things have changed in the last 100
years, but it still seems that guys can't wear feminine clothes. What
does it all mean?
Louise
I don't have any real advice, just a beautiful book to recommend -- Maiden
Voyage by Denton Welch. It may be hard to come by, but it's a novel about
the spirited exploits of a young artistic/poetic British boy who also
happens to be fascinated by Chinese ceramics. It's a delight and might give
some insight... either way, it's a great book.
--
Madeleine
RE: Boy wanting a princess dress -- there's a great essay on BabyCenter.com
called "The boy who wears dresses" and you can access it by clicking here:
http://www.babycenter.com/essay/7353.html . Make sure you click the link at
the bottom of the essay that says "See other respondents' comments on this
issue" http://www.babycenter.com/tips/7353.html for many, many parents and
others. They're quite enlightening!
Mollie
My 2 year old wants nothing more than to cook in the kitchen with
me. His new favorite thing is to look at this one toy catalogue while
sitting in my lap and points to all the ovens and food and toy
microwaves and tells me that he wants them.
When I'm cooking he wants nothing more than to do what I am doing. The
only way I finished Thanksgiving dinner was to give him the cutting
board with his plastic ikea knife and have him cut apple and celery
slices. His father is a little worried about this, but maybe your son
will become a fashion designer and mine will become a chef.
Afterall, I was consumed with becoming an astronaut or a
paleontologist when I was 6 or 7. Not common pursuits in 1970 for a
girl. If you have gay or lesbian friends, maybe they can get the point
across to your husband that sexual orientation isn't a learned
behavior and playing with trucks and guns wont alter his genetic
make-up. Playing with dresses won't either, and like my son, maybe he
just likes to do things that mommy does.
My little guy is sensitive and can be frightened of toddler
agression. Honestly, I love that about him.
Celebrate your little man's free spirit!
Just one mom's opinion,
Kelliane
I think parents have two vital obligations to their children: first, to
cultivate and support the unique gifts and interests that children bring
into this world; and second, to help socialize them in such a way that the
world welcomes and values them (e.g. manners, sharing, no hitting,
etc.). Your son's interest in princess dresses will push you to walk a
fine line between these two obligations.
I think your inclination to buy him a princess costume along with others,
set some limits on where and when he dresses this way is a perfect
compromise. It allows him to express this interest while also introducing
him to our (as you pointed out, highly biased) cultural norms. If these
interests of his continue, I imagine you will have to continue this
careful work, advocating for him in school, etc.
Your son sounds like a really great person. Best of luck to you all.
-- Ilana
As everyone else said, get him the dress. The one comment I keep hearing on
this topic that I find disturbing, is "wanting to dress up doesn't mean he
will be gay" as though this is what makes it OK to indulge his desire to
dress up. He will be gay or he won't be, if his desire to dress up is the
first indication of a gay sexual orientation, all the MORE reason for you to
be supportive. If he is gay or in some other way non-traditional in his
expression of gender, you as his parents need to fortify him for a world
that will try to tear him down. As many, many gay men (and lesbians, and
bisexuals) can tell you, having their parents react negatively did not
somehow "straighten them out". I did not actually read the original email
but it sounds as though dad may be uncomfortable, dad does not need to
pretend that he is not, but rather be honest with himself AND his son that
he was taught to think boys should act a certain way and admit that it is
hard for him to change this way of thinking.
As for the question of whether the desire to dress up comes from a
non-stereotyping household, I can only offer this circumstantial evidence,
my daughter, my stepson, and my son all were raised in a very
anti-gender-stereo-typing environment. By the time my 16 y.o. daughter was
2, she insisted on wearing ONLY dresses, preferably pink and lacey, and her
favorite toy for years was Barbie, even though I hate Barbie with a passion.
My 16 y.o. stepson, wanted nothing but He-Man and Ninja Turtles, and did
not
care at all about what he wore. My son who is now 7 loves dresses,
preferably pink and frilly (and has since he was 2) and the Powerpuff girls.
I am so tired of people saying that my son's interest in "girls" stuff is
his desire to identify with me (I NEVER wear pink frills), or his older
sister. Why does there have to be a reason?? No one speculated on reasons
for the other two kid's choices. My son is not allowed to dress up outside
the home, we are very clear with him that there is nothing wrong with him,
but that some people don't understand and therefore might tease him. He is
very aware of where he feels safe expressing this part of himself (the other
day, he brought his pink chapstick out of the house, and got self-conscious
and asked me to hold it for him). His interest in girls clothes comes and
goes, and some day it may go away for good, or he may become the next Ru
Paul, in either case he knows that he is fabulous and that we love him for
who he is.
-Shastine
I too have a son, almost 4, who is a "princess". He has several
princess dresses and a Barbie collection (purchased mostly out of his
own allowance and from gift money, I might add). For Halloween he
wore a pink princess dress, but when asked what he was replied
"Digimon". I have a great picture of him dressed like a princess but
wielding a light saber, claiming he was "Princessmon". He's recently
told me that he wants a Barbie themed birthday party this year and if
that's still true in a month, that's what he'll get.
I let him wear whatever he wants wherever he wants except on rare
occasions such as a fancy dinner or wedding. When he's not wearing a
pink princess dress he will often put on one of my t-shirts . The
latter doesn't seem to confuse people as much. They have no idea
that to him it's a "dress".
This was a very touchy issue for a while because he had a daycare
provider who told him (he was 2 1/2) that boys don't wear dresses,
boys don't play with Barbies, boys don't etc etc. His response was
to say he was a girl and to completely rebel about going to that
daycare. The situation was a bit compounded by the fact that we
didn't cut his hair (or his older brother's) until his third
birthday, so everyone was calling him a girl anyway. As soon as I
realized what was going on, I switched his daycare and made certain
that he would be allowed to wear whatever he wanted. I also made
clear to him that he is indeed a boy and that boys can do anything
they want. I told him that as a girl I preferred wearing boy's
clothes and playing with boy's toys and really resented that I never
got the kind of gifts my younger cousin (a boy) got. That little
dose of solidarity helped him a lot (as did a bunch of the songs on
"Free to Be You and Me").
He is now very clear that he is a boy who likes pink dresses and
jewelry. He will correct people who refer to him as "she". I am
continuing to treat this the same way I treated my older son's
obsessions with dinosaurs and pokemon. My older son went through a
period of always wanting to dress as a Charizard, so I bought him red
clothes. Presents, parties, shoes, umbrellas -- those are areas
where the characters and themes they pick are an expression of
themselves.
I did recently see "Ma Vie En Rose" which was an excellent film. The
one thing I noted though was that throughout, no one was giving the
boy any information. He wasn't told *why* people didn't want him
putting on dresses or why his actions were causing his parents
problems. Obviously it's the fear that this may be an indication
that the child is gay or that the parents are making him gay. I
haven't talked to my son about sexuality (I think he's too young) but
we have told him there are some people who think that boys should
dress one way and girls another. He knows that we disagree with
these people, but that they have these opinions nonetheless. FWIW,
my brother who is gay never cross-dressed as a child.
I have to say, I recently got my hair cut by someone who was clearly
gay. In the casual part of conversation it came up that I had two
boys. When he said, "Oh, so you don't have a little princess yet" I
quickly replied, "Oh, yes I do. I don't have a girl, but I have a
princess." He was thrilled :-)
Sophie
I recall my younger son exploring dress up as a young child and even
dressing up as a Little Old Lady for Halloween at school. The kids
and teachers thought it was great. My son has always been a sensitive,
imaginative,and humorous child. Since preschool he has had many
friends and good ones who are girls. He was often the only boy at
girls' birthday and slumber parties. At age 13, he continues to be
extremely well-liked by both both boys and girls. As an adolescent he
seems quite comfortable with himself and girls. Often he'll go to
movies, lunch etc. with girls. Actually, I think his male peers think
he's quite lucky to have the reputation of a "lady's man." Lastly, he
recently saw "Ma Vie en Rose" and thought it was great. So my advice is
let a boy dress up!
For what it is worth,
My pre-teen son and his friend both went as girls last Halloween; one a
French maid and the other Miss America. They had a blast.
anonymous.
PS When a friend of ours picked up his pre-school son, the child was often
dressed in a tutu. The kid is now 12 and as far as I know, doesn't wear
tutus anymore.
Jan 1998
I am writing on behalf of my sister who adopted a very premature infant boy
3 years ago. Now that he is able to communicate, he is indicating that he
wants to be (is) a girl, not a boy. When he plays with the neighbor kids,
he plays dress up with the girl instead of playing with the boy. He kept
one of the girl's dresses and wants to wear it all the time. (He does
agree to leave it in the car and wear pants when they do errands.) He
wanted a Barbie doll and jewelry for Christmas. He's informed his mother
that he's going to marry his Dad when he grows up.
If you had a child who acted like this, how would you raise him?
Even though you may not have had direct experience with this issue, I hope
to get thoughts from many of you which I will forward to my sister. Many
times, hearing other ideas helps clarify your own thoughts and feelings
whether you agree or not. If anyone knows of resources, that would also be
helpful. Barbara
For what it's worth: I thought I was a boy for as long as I can
remember (I'm a woman and a mom). The first bike I asked for (and
got) was a boy's bike; I wore jeans when no other girl did. I was a
cross- dressing tomboy until my dad told me to wear a halter top in
summer because I was developing breasts. I played on a pickup boys
baseball team with my hair in a Davy Crockett cap disguised as a boy
when I was eight. Yet when I was 12 I fell in love with a 14 year old
boy and have never been anything but 100% hetero. I feel sorry for a
boy child because the stigma for cross- dressing is so much
greater. Yet my boss who I admire to the nth let her boy wear a
spaghetti strap dress for a long time, till he didn't want it anymore.
My daycare provider says "No nailpolish for boys, that's where I draw
the line," so when my three year old son wanted nailpolish I
reluctantly told him no, but that we could do face painting or
temporary tatoos. He declined and gradually stopped asking for
nailpolish. For a while, he held his pacifier clip over his head and
picked the female version of his name and said he was a girl. That has
faded. When he was 2 to 1-1/2 he wanted his "balls off," or testicles
gone. I think it's because I used the word balls and he thought of
them like any other balls he could throw and play with. He never asks
for his "balls off" anymore, and in fact is proud that they are
growing. He has never asked to wear a dress.
From: Chris
I've known of a couple of friends' children (boys) who have chosen to wear
dresses among other non-traditional gender proclivities. The parents had no
problem and let the kids do what they wanted and everyone seems quite
happy. Unless the child is really angst-ridden about not physically
being a girl, then why not let him dream of marrying his dad or
getting jewelry for christmas? It seems unfair to me to impose societal
beliefs onto such young children.
From: Mary Carol
Have you seen Ma Vie en Rose? It is a Belgium-made film about a boy who
feels exactly the same way as your nephew (the kid in the movie is 7). It
is a wonderfully acted, wonderfully directed, thought-provoking incredible
film. There are no simple answers to these questions, but surely this
movie helps with a sense of compassion for ALL the family members.
I'd buy him the Barbie doll and the jewelry too ,,, and ... I'd continue to
encourage him to wear "boys clothes" for going out, because, as he gets
older, if he goes out in a dress he's likely to get beaten up (yes even in
the Bay Area).
My daughter, who is two and a half, has some pretty dresses which she's
willing to wear once in a blue moon if she's given tons of praise.
Generally, however, she flatly refuses to wear dresses, as she figured out
about six months ago that they get in the way when she's climbing stuff.
Lots and lots of girls these days go about in "boys clothing," which, not
too many years ago, was considered utterly scandalous. "Boys" clothes tend
to be warmer and more sturdy, but ... Alicia DID like her red velvet with
gold-buttons Christmas dress ... and such pretty things are sort of
"forbidden" for boys (although men ARE allowed fancy silk ties!) Who
knows, maybe 50 years from now, ANYONE can wear either blue jeans or red
velvet party dresses.
How does your sister dress? If she wears jeans and tee-shirts on a regular
basis, your nephew may get a different idea of what "feminine" is and this
may change things slightly. No idea how, as I don't really know whether
what the boy wants is beautiful, soft, velvety frilly things to wear (and
really, MANY young children of both genders do like soft textures and
pretty colors) or he wants to be like Mama or whether deep in his soul he
feels he is female ... could be all three, or just one of the three, or
some other thing all together.
For example, when I was a kid I really wanted to be a cowboy when I grew
up. I didn't particularlly want to be a *boy* really, but I could tell
(from watching TV) that cowGIRLS got to work in bars and serve drinks and
cow BOYS got to ride horses and go out on "roundup" (which, to my child's
mind, basically meant a long, six-month camping trip with stars, good food,
storytelling, horses, dogs, cows, friends. The actual *slaughter* of the
cattle didn't fit anywhere into my dreams.) As a career path goes, I think
I felt that going camping for a living was much preferrable to being a sort
of waitress in a saloon with regular gunfights ... so I wanted to be a
cowboy. Couldn't have articulated ANY of that at the time.
From: Denise
Perhaps your sister would be interested in hearing about our youngest
son. Ben is a carefree and happy 2 1/2 year old who has recently
become obsessed with dresses and other things conventionally
associated with women and girls. He's always loved wearing grown-up
clothes. Last spring he was really taken with my husband's neckties
and insisted on wearing one every morning to daycare. We let him and
he loved it. A few months ago he asked to wear my apron and loved
twirling around the kitchen swinging it like a skirt. Then, at
Xmastime he discovered the dress-up drawer in one of the spare
bedrooms in his grandmother's house and has never looked back. He has
worn one of my mother-in-law's old cotton peasant skirts nearly every
day for a month. It's becoming so worn and stretched out that we have
to twist it and pin it over one shoulder so it looks more like a sari
(extremely groovy looking, I must admit). He's quite happy wearing it
over pants and sweatshirt and wear a jacket over it (I make this point
only to say that he's warm enough), and likes to wear it everywhere.
He has worn it to daycare and they are very happy to let him do that.
I've also noticed that when we read books now he'll sometimes point to
female characters wearing dresses and say, "that's me". He asks me
sometimes to put lipstick and blush on him, and now stands beside me
in the morning as I survey my closet and requests something shiny and
colorful. I indulge him if I have time, but normally he jigs around
for a few minutes and then goes and gets his sari and off we go.
What to I make of this? Frankly, not much. Ben likes colors,
movement, texture, and being different. Does Ben really think he's a
girl or want to be one? I don't know, but to inhibit his exploration
of his identity and creativitiy, particularly at this age, seems
completely wrong to me and a real waste of scarce parental energy. Why
can't he wear his dress in public if he wants to? He's a toddler!
The only comments people have made about Ben and his getups is that he
looks fabulous (and he does). Don't get me wrong. I neither promote
nor discourage his behavior, I merely accept it, which is by far the
easiest option for all of us. My older son, who's 4 1/2, is not
interested at all in dressing up or exploring anything remotely
feminine. That's ok, too. I can't force him to enjoy playing with
dolls any more than I can make the younger one believe that wearing a
dress is wrong. My belief is that they are both learning to explore,
make their own choices, and most importantly that their parents' love
is unconditional.
I may be overstepping it here, but if your nephew wants to marry his
dad, is that REALLY that much different from many boys wanting to
marry their moms? Doesn't that mean that he just loves his dad a lot,
given a three year old's distant perception of what marrying someone
really means? Another thing that puzzled me in your posting was the
mention of your nephew being born prematurely. If there's a
suggestion of that somehow influencing his behavior now, I would
strongly question that. I don't know of any resources that would be
useful to your sister, mainly because I think that there are a lot of
boys at this age that are doing the same thing.
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