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13-year-old wants to have a Halloween party

Sept 2007

My 13 year old son would like to host a Halloween Party and invite 30+ friends-both boys and girls. Of course my husband and I will be present the entire evening. There will be food, music and dancing. My son had demonstrated very responsible behavior and has never given us one reason to worry about the choices he makes. We like his friends and he is very social. It's the other kids I worry about. Should we allow him to host the party and if so, what kinds of activities should we provide to keep the party on the straight and narrow. I'd love to hear from anyone who has allowed (or not) their child to host their first boy/girl party. I'd also appreciate any tips to keep party running smoothly. Mom


I don't have advice specifically about activities for the party but just wanted to advise you to make sure the party has a definite ending time and that the kids' parents know what the ending time is. We've had a couple of parties that were supposed to end at a certain time and I still had kids hanging around for hours after because they ''forget'' to tell their parents when to pick them up or their parents couldn't come then or some other lame excuse. I don't mean to sound like a party pooper, but believe me, the frantic energy generated by groups of kids this age is exhausting for grown-ups, and when this party is over you will want them all to leave! anon
My daughter had her first co-ed party for her 12th bday. I said she had to invite about the same number of boys and girls so it wouldn't be just a few boys (in her case). I think 30 is too many. We had about 15. Party was from 6-10. That was plenty long enough. I would recommend 7-10. We had lots of activities planned. They only did them for about 5 minutes each, but it was helpful to have them, because when I saw they seemed to be at loose ends I introduced a new activity. And of course for a while the girls danced and the boys watched. We (parents) stayed in our bedroom and made periodic sweeps through the party. Everything went fine! Good Luck!

PTA Article about Teen Parties

June 2006

A few months ago, someone posted asking for information about the Berkeley Police Dept's workshop on out-of-control teen parties. I don't think anyone responded to that, but I just came across an article published in Jan 2006 by the Berkeley High School PTSA that gives an excellent account of the magnitude of the problem, and what parents can do: ''Parents Need to Know the Risks of Weekend Teenage Parties''


Unsupervised teen parties

March 2006

In last week's newsletter there was an item from the Berkeley Police about a March 23 community forum on ''Teen Parties''. I have been meaning to write to the newsletter letting people know about my own experience. Our kids had an unauthorized party at our house in February just one week before the tragic teen party in North Berkeley where a teenager was stabbed to death (see http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/article.cfm?archiveDate=02-17-06&storyID=23437). It was very scary because it could have been our house. So I wanted to let other parents know what happened at our house.

We went out of town for the weekend and left our two kids, 20 and 23, in charge. We knew from their Berkeley High days that parents out of town often means party at your house, where everyone is invited, invitations are word of mouth and the door is open to anyone and everyone. But this time we thought they were older, they are good kids and they could be trusted. They promised no parties. What happened is they did have a party. Kids showed up that they didn't know, and things got out of control. There was a fight outside in the front yard. They really didn't know how to deal with it. They told us later that it never occurred to them to call the police. Someone could have been hurt, thank God no one was. Things were stolen - our cell phones and cameras and ipods. They paid us back out of their meager funds, but I learned my lesson: next time I don't leave them in the house by themselves no matter what. Please be extra conservative about leaving your kids at home alone. If you must leave them, ask a neighbor to check in, and talk to your kids about what ''out of control'' means, and what to do when that happens.
Still learning


March 2006

Community Forum on Teen Parties

The Berkeley Police Department, in conjunction with the District 5 Berkeley City Council Office, is sponsoring a community forum on Thursday, March 23 on the growing concerns around teen parties:
- The social factors that lead to out-of-control teen events
- What teens can do if their party gets out of control
- Teen anxiety about calling the police. What will really happen?
- What are parents’ responsibilities if they are not there?
- What can and should neighbors do if they suspect a large, unsupervised teen party?
- How web sites, such as “My Space,” play a roll in spreading the word.

The BPD will also be available to address concerns about the February homicide on Contra Costa Ave.

The meeting will be Thursday, March 23, 7:00 pm to 8:30 pm at the Northbrae Church Community Center, 941 The Alameda, Berkeley. Available for questions will be representatives from the Berkeley Police Department’s Community Services Bureau and Homicide Division, and the City’s Mental Health Division.

For information, call the BPD Area Coordinator, Officer Nutterfield, at 981-5806, or the District 5 Council Office at 981-7150.
Jill Martinucci, aide to Berkeley Councilmember, District 5


Coed Hotel Sleepover for 16th Birthday Party?

October 2005

Hello, My daughter is turning 16 in a few weeks and has requested a celebration with her friends. Part of this to include a night in a hotel, where they would ''hang out''. The group would consist of 3 boys and 4-5 girls. There are 4 teens in this group that are dating. They would get 2 rooms. My immediate reaction was absolutely not for all obvious reasons. My daughter is trying to convince me that this is ok, and that this would not be about sex and booze, ''they can do that anyway, anytime, if they really want to''. I continue to think that this is entirely inappropriate, way too risky and a celebration that calls for supervision if an overnight is involved. However, I would like to hear other parents opinions as well as suggestions for ''special'' 16th bday celebrations. Thanks to all. anonymous


I would definitely veto a coed sleepover. Our daughter took a small group of friends rock climbing at Berkeley Iron Works (981-9900) followed by dinner at a local Japanese restaurant where they had a private room. Everyone had a great time with no parents around! anon
In response to the parent whose daughter wants an unsupervised night in a hotel with her friends: Her intentions may be innocent, but I for one would not let my kid attend such a party, no way, no how, even though she is as responsible as they come, and our family is pretty far on the permissive side when it comes to things like sex and alcohol. There are just too many ways it could go wrong, despite the best of intentions. 16 isn't grown up, and this is a very grown up idea your daughter has. Stick to a special meal in a nice place--that doesn't need to be supervised--and back home for hang out time. If she held such a party, how many of her friends would be allowed to come? anonymous
Your instincts are right on for a big NO to a coed party at a hotel for a 16th birthday party. This idea sounds like a set-up for failure. It seems to be the job description for a teen to make an outrageous request and call it normal, just as it's our task to say nice try, and let's keep thinking of other ways to celebrate. One of my daughter's friends had a group of 4 or 5 girls go with a parent to the Claremont Hotel where they had a great time celebrating her 16th birthday. The kids spent much of the following day (Saturday) at that fabulous and nicely heated pool and it was a wonderful celebration. Anon
Stick to your guns, Anonymous. A coed party for 6-10 unsupervised teens? Absolutely, positively not. No. No way. Your daughter may think it's not going to involve sex and drinking, and there's a slight chance it won't, but you are responsible for her and her guests, and Mommy, you can't take the chance. Sympathetic Mom 16-Year-Old Wants to Party in Hotel
I daresay you'll get plenty of responses saying this is a bad idea. I just think it's a silly one, and would say so if the party was girls-only as well. It's her 16th birthday, not the second coming. When she's a grown-up, your daughter may throw herself elaborate bashes, but it's not her parents' job to give her the jet-set treatment. (Did she perhaps get this idea from the increasingly elaborate high school prom rituals and expenses?)

(Oh, well, they all try things on. My daughter had elaborate plans, too, but ended up being content with pizza at the joint down the street with 9 friends, cake at home, a guest appearance by The Boyfriend, and 6 of the girls staying overnight. Some people tell me this was incredibly low-key, but everyone appeared to have a good time.) Melanie


To the parent requesting advice on unsupervised 16th birthday party in a hotel -- my advice is simply, ''no way.'' I realise that answer isn't helpful, but it is rock bottom. You think this is ''risky'' and ''entirely inappropriate'' and you are absolutely right. There will be many more birthdays and opportunities for your daughter to have fun in a more grown up environment. There is no reason to rush (and risk) at this stage. As mature as 16 years olds may be, they do not have depth and breath of experience to handle whatever may come up in this situation. Of course they could drink and have sex in many other circumstances, but this arrangement would be aiding, abetting and sanctioning that behavior. I probably sound harsh to some parents but I feel strongly that as adults with life experience it is important for parents to hold the line to some extent.
Far from perfect, opinionated mother of 16 year old and 20 year old.
Best advice - NO! Save it for Senior Prom night when the kids are 18, or closer to 18. As an aside, I know many teens watch MTV, and they have this show, "My Super Sweet 16" -- it's too much to compete with a "reality" show that is not a true reality. - Anon
I think is pretty common nowadays although I wouldn't allow the co-ed version. I let my daughter do this with Girls Only and I stayed across the hall. I would say no way to boys coming and maybe she won't want to do it at all. I also did it in SF so it wouldn't be that easy for crashers to stop by or for them to sneak out somewhere. It was slightly nerve racking for me and I had to remind them to quiet down in their room a couple of times but the girls had a really great time swimming and goofing around and LOVED the breakfast buffet in the morning.
I don't care how responsible and mature an individual young person is. Put teens in a group without supervision, even carefully selected teens with no party-crashers, and you have a recipe for trouble. The parent who invented the hotel-overnight party for highschoolers did the rest of us no favors. I have heard of parties where the kids were in one room and the adult chaperone in another. That seems marginally better, especially if it's a single-sex party and stays that way.

Alternate suggestion, depending on time of year: Let your daughter organize a group day/evening event, with no parents. The local pizza parlor may be too boring-- what about taking BART to an elegant restaurant in the City or a concert at the Concord Pavilion or possibly an event at the Coliseum? Depending on your budget, what about flying down to Disneyland for the day? My own feeling is that a group of 16 year olds ought to be okay in those kind of public places. Alternatively, enlist her best friend for a surprise party or sleepover (girls only) and put some effort into the decoration and amenities. Albany parent


HI, My eldest daughter also will celebrate her 16th in a couple of weeks. My view on teen parties is that I will not take responsibility for other's people children regarding ''loaded'' issues. We can't control everything they do or be everywhere seeing what they are doing, but I can not have it, intentionally, on my watch.

I agree with your daughter that if kids want to drink and have sex they can figure it out any day of the week. I just wouldn't want the liability.

I had to kind of get my daughter excited about something else besides her original idea of a co-ed slumber party. My daughter is taking a co-ed group out for dinner at The Elephant Bar. Some of my daughter's closest friends are guys. Then we are having a girls-only slumber party in a hotel suite which INCLUDES me and my 2 best girlfriends. Me and mine will have our own room and the 6 girls will have the living area and the other room. So we will ''around'' but will go by the girls' lead as to whether they want us in or out of the action. We are having 2 esthetician riends come to do manicures and pedicures. She is having snacks, vidoes and crazy games. The big surprise is that in the morning, we have make-up artists and hairstylist coming to do them all up and they will have a professional photo shoot for momentos. They are all girly girls and love to go the mall and get photos done all they time, so that should be fun.

All of the parents will receive, in addition to the invites, a detail of what we are doing. If any of the girls' moms want to come, they are so invited!

It's expensive, but our whole family is pitching in. We are spending about the same as if she had a huge party. She just wanted her closest best friends. We are taking them in a limo from the restaurant to the suite in San Francisco.

My daughter really got into the planning and I have to say that I am looking forward to hanging out with my friends too.

Just my opinion. Good luck and congrats on your daughter turning sweet 16!!!
Mom of 16 yr old too!


To the parents wanting to know people's opinions about an overnight unsupervised coed 16th birthday party in a hotel: I think your immediate reaction was the right one (''absolutely not for all the obvious reasons''). I am the parent of two teenage daughters (16 and 19) and would have never agreed to this kind of a celebration. Of course your daughter is trying to convince you that this is not about sex and booze. And maybe it's not for her, but that doesn't mean it's not for some of the other kids. And then they're all in a difficult situation with no comfortable way out; hardly the way she, or anyone else, should spend a birthday. And if she's doing this for her 16th birthday, will all the others do the same, and then it's lots of unsupervised parties in hotel rooms at the age of 16. I can only imagine what they'll be doing at 17, or 18!! For the price of two hotel rooms, the group could go to Yoshi's on a Sunday afternoon to listen to music, or out to a fun restaurant for dinner and then a movie (think Bay Street perhaps). One of my daughters had a 16th birthday barbeque at the beach, with soccer and volleyball. The other invited her friends to our house and we served a fancy dinner and all the kids wore dress up clothes. One of my daughter's friends rented a banquet room in a hotel, hired a d.j., bought a bunch of munchies, and had a party for 4 hours on a Saturday night. Another took a bunch of kids to Santa Cruz for the day. There's a lot of fun stuff to do. Hang in there--it only gets more interesting!! anonymous
I would go with your instincts on this and not allow a co-ed hotel sleepover! Even though your daughter says sex and drinking can happen elsewhere, you don't want to be in the position of providing a venue for behavior that is against your rules (or other parents' rules).

How about a party at your house and then just the girls sleep over? I think it is much easier to supervise at your house (without being in the same room all the time). Or since it is a small group, a dressy dinner at a nice restaurant?

I hope you can find an alternative that your daughter likes! Deborah


This is for the parent that asked about ''Unsupervised 16th Birthday Parties'' and having hotel rooms for a co-ed party, and saying that they weren't sure if it was a good idea and that their daughter was trying to convince them to say yes. I have been working with teens and their families for over 20 years, and most of the time my advice to parents is ''If you feel uncomfortable with it, trust your gut and say NO''. If for some reason your daughter convinces you to go against your gut feelings, call the other kid's parents and tell them what is happening. My guess is, most of them weren't told that this was going to be unsupervised, or maybe not even told at all! With whatever you decide, remember that it's hard to keep balancing wanting to keep teens safe but also giving them some freedom without unnecessary risks. Fran Wickner, Ph.D,, MFT
No way. I let my daughter do this when she graduated high school and that was soon enough. Be creative. Find a luau restaurant like Trader Vic and suggest wearing Polynesian-inspired clothes; suggest doing one of those night-time boats on the bay like the Horner, etc. -- Let her have something to look forward to for graduation or who knows what she will request... anonymous
My gut reaction to your daughter's request for an unsupervised overnite party at a hotel is ABSOLUTELY NOT. No matter how ''good'' a kid she is, it's a green light for drugs, alcohol, sex and irresponsible behavior. And, if I were the parent of one of the other kids in attendance I would not let my child go(if I were informed in advance that it was unsupervised) and if I found out after the fact that it was unsupervised I'd be irate. There are plenty of options for celebrations.....nice dinners out for a group of friends...comedy clubs, concerts (drop them off and pick them up...there are venues that cater to under 21...no alcohol in SF and East Bay)a day trip to Santa Cruz boardwalk....anything but a nite in a hotel with friends. You'd feel horrible, guilty and worse if anything bad happened on your clock. Good luck PS-from my experience, you've got to be more than willing to tolerate your kids' disappointment. mom of 2 teenagers

Murder Mystery party for preteen Halloween

Sept 2005

My pre-teen daughter is interested in hosting a murder mystery party for Halloween. I've seen lots of ''kits'' available online but I don't know how to tell which ones are good. Has anyone out there ever done this sucessfully? Any recommendations on kits or formats? Any tips to make sure everyone has fun? Thanks for the help!
Needs A Clue


I've been to four or five (adult) murder mystery parties and have always had a great time. My friend (who has hosted all of the parties) finds the boxed versions at garage sales. They've all been a little corny, some better than others, sometimes the cornier the better. But, the quality of the story doesn't seem to matter much. What has been great fun is that people have worn costumes (sometimes just a ''hint'' of one), taken on an accent, and otherwise tried to get into character. I don't think it's as much fun to be an observer (i.e. more guests than characters in the script) but I have done that too.

I found this link on-line which, though a little pricier than a boxed version, sounds great. It would be helpful to have someone else accomodate the number and gender of the guests. (My friend would usually try to do this.) http://www.host-a-murder.com/teen.html

Sounds like a great idea for a party for pre-teens. You might want to have some costume props available for those kids who might not otherwise get into it.
Have fun! Sally


Spontaneous Huge Parties - Parents Away

March 2005

I'm very concerned about teen parties that appear to take place every weekend at Berkeley, Oakland and Piedmont homes where parents are away. They seem to explode rapidly into something very large and sometimes out of control, are attended by many many kids unknown to the ''hosts'', and are accompanied by lots of alcohol, marijuana and, I suspect, yet more serious things. Is this a growing problem generally, or is it a problem that I'm only now tumbling to given my child's current high level of interest in participation? In addition to monitoring our own children's behavior and talking informally with other parents, is there any coordinated community effort to address this phenomenon? I welcome information, thoughts, advice, etc. etc. Thanks, Bea


I graduated from Berkeley High in 1982. This party desciption sounds exactly like the parties I started going to (unbeknownst to my parents) in 1977. They were wild and fun and super exciting, and my friends and I did a lot of really stupid things. I think most of us recovered. The best result: I got all the partying out of my system by the time I was a senior at BHS. I had no desire to ''party'' at UC and did much better than some of my dorm mates who had had a more sheltered high school experience. --Good luck

Options for Dealing with Parties and Drugs

Editor Note: These very helpful tips are notes from a workshop given to parents about parties and drinking by local therapist Michael Y. Simon, MFT, Director of Counseling, Bentley Upper School

March 2005

I'm posting below some information from a workshop I give on parties/drugs in high school. I hope this helps.

Options for Dealing with Parties/Drugs and Their Likely or Hoped-For Consequences

Strategy 1: Doing Nothing or “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell

Parents decide that there is nothing they can do and they can’t control their child, who is on the way to adulthood. The likely consequence though is that your child will feel ignored and abandoned in someway and will feel that the unspoken bond of trust has been betrayed, since children usually expect their parents to watch out for them and their safety, even if they rail against it.

What Longterm Lessons are Being Taught?
1. When you have to confront someone you care about, the best strategy is to just ignore things and hope for the best. They probably can’t do the right thing, even if they know what it is.
2. It’s pointless trusting or consulting my parents because they won’t get involved or will feel burdened anyway.

Strategy 2: Doing Everything or “No @#$@ Way”

Parents decide that there is no way that they can trust their child to do the right thing. They forbid party- going and constantly check their child for drug and alcohol use. The child must answer to every inquiry and the parents verify every answer.

What Longterm Lessons are Being Taught?
1. I can’t be trusted to do anything on my own; I’m untrustworthy and can’t mess up in order to learn.
2. I am not capable of taking responsibility in a difficult situation. People think I shouldn’t have choices, just limitations.
3. I’m still a child and need to be micro-managed or I’ll be out of control.
4. I need to act like a kid, to prove my parents right OR I need to be “hyper-adult” to prove I’m not a child (and thus, may in fact get in over my head as I attempt to take on too much adult responsibility).

Strategy 3: “Its All In Good Fun” or “I’m my teen’s best friend!” strategy

Parents might smoke or drink or use drugs in the house or might bond with their child by telling them about their “good old days” in the 60s and 70s when they too got busted by the cops or pulled over for drunk driving or snuck out of the house and fooled their parents or had a party when grandma and grandpa went away. The idea is that this bonding will encourage the child to share information about sex, drug use and parties and will keep it all from becoming a big deal. Plus, if it goes on in the house, they can keep an eye on it all, right?

What Longterm Lessons are Being Taught?
1. My parents may be more concerned with what I want than what I need.
2. I can be trusted no matter what I do and my parents are really my friends, so if I mess up, its not such a big deal (and, consequently, I can’t really go to them).
3. Something is wrong if someone close to me has more power than I do.
4. The line between freedom and responsibility is blurry and difficult to figure out, because there are never really clear limits or boundaries around potentially dangerous activities.

Strategy 4: The Subtle Intervention: “No Big Talks”

Parents decide that they will not do one “big” intervention, but will try many, ongoing, “little” interventions, and include a number of strategies like: asking what the child thinks about the party/certain aspects of drug use; catching their child being “responsible” and subtly pointing it out or expressing their appreciation for a hard decision, well made; offer advice when it’s asked for but provide conditional offers of help from time to time, or providing “cover stories” to save face e.g., saying, “well, I’m still not totally okay about this party thing, but if you find that things are getting out of control tomorrow, let’s arrange a phone signal and I’ll come pick you up someplace where no one can see me getting you.”

What Longterm Lessons are Being Taught?
1. My parents still care and are available in a pinch but they have some faith in me.
2. I’m trusted to come up with solutions on my own, because they often ask me what I think, rather than tell me what to do.
3. My intuition and “inner voice” is valued and valuable as a source of decision-making.
4. Things are not out of my control—I have choices and can get over the fear I have that I won’t be able to do the right thing (apropos of the essay you heard earlier).

Tips for Changing the Setting and Set Around Drug Use and Parties

Michael Y. Simon, MFT
Director of Counseling, Bentley Upper School


15-Y-O Wants to Go to Unsupervised Teen Parties

Sept 2004

I am a parent of a very social 15 year old sophmore at BHS. My daughter wants to be able to attend parties where there are no adults present in the home. My rules have been that there must be a parent in the house during the party, and I need to have the name and phone number of the parent of the kid that is hosting the party. My daughter complains that I am way too strict and that lots of her junior and senior friends have parties without parents in the home all the time. I would like to hear from parents of other high school age kids, (especially girls) regarding your rules for party attendance.


We have a 13 year old girl and a 16 year old boy, and we feel the same way you do. Absolutely no unsupervised parties -- just too much potential for problems. By the way, I lived with my boyfriend and his twin boys for 6 years, when they were age 15-21. We let them have parties at 15, 16, 17, but we were around, mostly in our room but with occasional passes through the house to check. Awfully glad we were around, because these kids (nice kids, good students, scouts, band, etc) just come up with DUMB ideas... and the girls were certainly the instigators at least 1/2 the time. Dumb ideas like let's go wander thru the neighborhood, or let's dangle so-and-so over the balcony. It seems like fun to them, because they are KIDS. Parents have to be there or things can easily get very risky. Been There - Don't!
First of all, you should definitely read the previous postings (including student perspective). I am also the parent of a 15-y.o. (well, almost) girl, and I ALWAYS insist on getting the address, phone number, and host's name for any party being contemplated. I really do call the home, introduce myself, and check that parents will be home throughout the party. While I realize this is no guarantee that ''nothing will happen'', I do want to verify that the parents are aware of/approve of the party (as in, not out of town), and to make them aware that at least one guest's parent cares enought to check it out. My daughter insists that I'm the only one who does this, but I tell her that part of my job as her parent is to help assure her safety. I think she knows that at least a few other parents do this, too, although she wouldn't admit it. I also repeatedly stress that she can call me for a ride at any time, if she is in any way uncomfortable. I also make a point of discussing my concerns with her every time (to her dismay, but that's how I am). So far, she has been good about calling me if she is going to be later than originally planned. At this point, her ride home has always been with either one of her parents, or another adult we know - never kids.

Part of the problem with high school parties is the age range. I guess by the time kids are getting ready to go off to college, we do expect them to make their own decisions about such things (after all, you won't be there to give or withhold permission, or chaperone, when they're away). But I certainly do feel that it's totally reasonable for me to be checking things out at this stage. And even when she's older, there will almost certainly be younger teens at the same parties - so I'm not sure how I'll deal with that. Let your daughter know that at least some of us are still taking our parental responsibilities seriously. Anon.


I've got a girl sophmore at BHS, too, and while she's probably not as sociable as yours, my rules are exactly the same. Stick to them. At this age, ''EVERYONE'' gets to do EVERYTHING (how convenient!), but I seldom believe it. And parents who do go off and let the kids party unattended are just being irresponsible.

How about checking in with her friends' parents and getting their opinions, maybe make some agreements about how you'll manage your kids' socializing? It's always nice to have some peer support, and our girls need to know that their parents are wide awake and looking out for them, however much they protest it. Good luck. Melanie


Hi, I meant to write this last go-round re. the "unsupervised parties." I have some feelings about it as I find that the sexually active young women and their male partners are needing a place to do the experimental sexual stuff that young people do. We've had the problem of these people "sleeping over at our house" as a pretext for their connection. I've heard from one of the parental parties that "they've been sexually active but not regularly so I'm not worried." Well,,,it then becomes the responsibility of the host family to ride herd/supervise, whatever, those young people. I know it's a very tough issue to think clearly about/ sort out. My friends who were parents of HS young years ago met the other "subject parents" and made an agreement to provide a safe space for these kids to sleep together. I liked that so much as it honors the experiemental nature of the young people and their natural desire, honors the parents who are NOT party to this so really don't have any reason to host sexually active young people and makes sex something "speakable" in their families. If you think you might be one of the parents of a sexually active young person please consider my request. Thank you. Anonymous

What goes on at Teen Parties?

1999

As the recent, somewhat naive, hosts of an evening party for a group of middle schoolers, thought I should pass on a few tips I could have used beforehand. First, it is really important to be clear with your teen about the invitation process, i.e. keeping it very specific and discrete and creating a list for you to use in admitting people. Even then, think about how you plan to handle uninvited guests. Second, at the risk of underscoring my naivete, I'll pass on what may be obvious to everyone: hide and lock up all alcohol and all contents of medicine cabinets, unless it's o.k. w/you for people to consume these substances. Third, put away EVERYTHING you want to protect into a locked off area of your home (childproofing techniques, e.g. putting something high up or closing a door is mere "child's play" for a teen already well into his/her growth spurt and in a feisty, party mood). Fourth, don't expect to be able to control the movement and whereabouts of your guests. They have a tendancy to roam to do who knows what, & there is no way you can control what goes on beyond the confines of your home. Finally: hosting a teen party is not for the weak of heart and even the strong of heart need to have anywhere from 2 to many adults to help them (depending on the party's size). In the interest of space, I'll stop here, but am happy to correspond by e-mail w/any parent who would like to discuss party planning. The important P.S. is that despite the grim list above, my daughter had a great time and a great party and our home was unscathed. PPS: Corollary to #4 above is that I don't think we can hold hosting parents responsible for the behavior or even the whereabouts of our offspring during the course of a party. It is physically impossible for them, and we can only hope that each of our children has adequate judgment to keep out of harm's way.
Joan


Hooray for you - This sounds very much like the party my daughter was "invited" to last Saturday night by a friend of a friend of a friend. She decided not to go because she doesn't trust the party scene, even at fourteen. As it turned out, someone did spike the punch with rum and there was a lot of hanky-panky between boys and girls, even though the parents were on premises. I have been to one of those parties myself and the moment the parents leave the room, the kids do what they will do. I'm shocked that these kids are all so willing to be "bad." I personally will be keeping any parties either single gender or VERY parentized. My daughter kind of represents that most of her friends are from broken homes and not well supervised between the two homes. I was going to tell her she couldn't go just because I wasn't about to have her at someone's house I didn't know, driven there by another friend I didn't know well - I don't think so - but she made the decision herself and I told her I was really proud of her. I think parents communicating with each other is the best defense.
I am so glad Joan wrote in about her experience with teen parties. They are a big mystery to me! Perhaps others will shed more light. Here is what my 17-y-o BHS son tells me:
1. there is no such thing as an invitation. anyone can go to any party. if you heard about it, then you are invited. you just show up.
2. you will not find out where the party is, or who is giving it, until the day of the party. this is to prevent too many people from showing up.
3. we can never have a party at our house, since too many people will come and also they will steal things.
4. parents are never present at parties.
5. alcohol is always consumed at parties (but there are designated drivers (?!!).

Is this pretty much the situation? Does anyone know? Here is a recent quote: "I'm going to a party. I'll be home by 11. It's somewhere on ______ Street ( a nearby address). I don't know whose party it is - some kid from Head Royce. Everybody is going." Would you say OK to this?


Would I say OK to this?

NO!!!!!

"Party" is okay; "home by 11:00" is okay; "somewhere on ____ Street" is NOT okay--I want to know where my kids are and what the phone number is; "I don't know whose party" is definitely NOT okay. "Everybody is going"--that and a quarter will buy you an Examiner.


Regarding discussion of teen parties The short answer is no I wouldn't go for it. Our kid is only 13 so we've only been faced with this situation once so far. He asked to go to a party with "Johnny" a school friend we know pretty well. The party was to be at the house of a friend of Johnny's. We said it was possible -- who was the friend, what was the address, and phone number? And by the way we needed the phone number in advance to touch base with Johnny's parent, guardian whomever. After being told repeatedly at major decibel levels that we didn't understand, that to call someone's parents just wasn't done, etc., he dropped the whole thing. I don't know what our rules will be when he is 17, but for the next few years the rules are: we need to know where he is going and what adult supervision there is planned for the event. With that information we will decide whether he can go; without it the answer is an automatic no. I believe that there are a lot of other parents who support this type of responsible parenting; perhaps we can make that known somehow so the kids will know (before they have kids of their own) that this is a general norm not an aberration.
My 11th grade BHS son gives the exact same definition of parties. I don't let him attend. He says he's the only kid at BHS not allowed to attend such parties, and that his reputation at BHS and the local preppy high schools is a pair of four-letter words as a result. He's my third high schooler and my rule has always been parties are ok if adults are present the whole time, I am given a phone number where I can reach the parents and my kid at any time, and I can come in and physically meet the parents at the beginning of the party and any other time during the party's duration, and my kid must be home by midnight. I found this resulted in my kids choosing to attend parties which, while not drug and alcohol free as apparently no high school parties are, were less wild than some parties I heard about. I encourage other parents to have the courage to staff parties occurring in their own house, and not to let their kids attend unchaperoned parties. And the final party piece: although I always insisted my kids write down the name, address, parental names and phone number of the kid who was going to drive them home from the party, I also made clear I would always do a midnight pickup, uncomplainingly, if the designated driver was not sober; I made many of these pickups, and I drove home many girls whose parents didn't care if they walked alone across Berkeley at midnight. I think if we give our kids the message that we have rules not to control them but because we care about them, it only strengthens our relationship with them in the end.
Re: Teen Partying at homes unknown to you: I never let any of my 3 kids go to parties in homes where I didn't know the child or the family before my own were 16. After that, I decided case by case. By then I had a solid idea of what kinds of people and places and "fun" my kids were attracted to and could I decide based on whom they were going with. But they ALWAYS had a firm curfew (they are now all in college) and they honored it. They were allowed to negotiate for a later curfew for some events but that was rare...it had to be pretty special and I had to know all the details.

My biggest fear was always driving, whether it was my child or another. This past weekend one of my children "confessed" to me that when I used to give my speech to them as they were heading off in a car, that she knew she was supposed to act embarrassed in front of her friends but that she was grateful for the advice. The usual speech was: wear seat belts, don't distract the driver and DON'T have a party in car! All three of our kids, I'm grateful to say, survived both their dad and me AND the drives!

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