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(Editor Note: This followed on a discussion about Prom Night

I feel compelled to write again because I have had so many thoughts since I wrote the first letter which initiated all of this conversation about hotel rooms and prom night. After speaking with numerous parents about this issue, most of whom are parents of boys, I want to turn the conversation to what our responsibilities are, as parents of boys, when our boys start dating, particularly when they are dating younger girls (which is usually the case). Perhaps it would be useful to have the conversation outside the events of Prom Night, so that it is less personalized. I would like to hear from other parents about how they handle these issues. I don't want to perpetuate what I grew up with--a "boys will be boys" atmosphere in which it was the job of a girl and her parents to be sure the girl takes care of herself. I would like to create an environment in which we care about everyone's child as if that child were our own. I know this sounds "Pollyanna-ish". Somehow, though, what I would like to see is that we create an community in which parents of boys feel responsible for the girls their sons date as if those girls were their daughters. I wonder how other parents feel about this issue, and would welcome a dialogue about this.


To the parent who wondered if other parents of boys were feeling responsible for the girls that their sons date: Yes! Here's a story from our family. A month or so ago my son's girlfriend (just turned 16) invited him to a Rave. She had purchased the tickets online, and had been to one before (without him). He had never been to one before. First we discussed this Rave business, then (having been convinced by the teenagers that they would behave responsibly there), we discussed logistics. The stated time for this event was from 8 pm Sunday night to 4 am Monday, and the location was a mystery until about an hour before it began. My son (recently 18) had not yet taken his driver's license test. He and the girl were thinking they could meet at the BART station, take BART to close to the event and walk the rest of the way. Then walk back to the BART, she'd proceed to San Francisco alone, and he'd take the trains to El Cerrito. As you can imagine, my husband and I did not think much of this plan! We told my son that no way was he going to walk around at night in an unknown location with a young woman, much less leave her on her own to get back home. And incidentally, the early morning was a Monday holiday, with BART trains on holiday schedule.

We made arrangements with the girl's parents to drive the kids to the place, and to drive them home to our place where she could sleep the rest of the night in our guest room before returning home with her mother as chauffeur the next day. The complications were numerous: we were attending a special 50th birthday party that same night, the girl forgot her ticket and had to return home to get it (via BART), my son forgot his ID and had to be driven home to retrieve it, my husband spent the party on the cell phone and driving around in circles, we got an hour or two of sleep before waking up to make the return trip. But it was worth it for the peace of mind! The girl's mother and father really appreciated our efforts, and I think the teenagers realized that good planning is not a deterrent to having a good time. We loosened up a bit about Raves, and what parent doesn't remember that music and dancing are essential to life? Bonnie


I was so happy to see this come up -- right to the point where the (anonymous) author postulated that a society "in which we care about everyone's child as if that child were our own" might be contrued as "Pollyanna-ish."

This current generation is the first in which outside perceptions of appropriate parental behavior carry any weight or importance whatsoever. CARING WHAT OTHERS THINK is part of what we do most poorly by our kids. In a diverse and multi-cultural society the boundaries of appropriate behavior are different for different families, but there still MUST BE BOUNDARIES. Please don't assume there AREN'T because you don't want to be perceived as naive or Pollyanna-ish.

In a "village" where rules are different in different homes the logical consequence would be MORE talk between parents, and an understanding that OUR morals (mine and those of my child) are LIKELY not to be YOUR morals (you and your child). When in doubt -- the "highest" or most conservative boundaries rule until a discussion can be had. If you can't bring yourself to ask me honestly if I'd mind my child participating in an activity, the default decision must be NOT to include my child in the activity. I don't assume to know your rules, please don't assume you know mine. If your child can't give you enough information (phone number) for the two of us to speak, please, assume s/he KNOWS I'll object.

At the risk of ending my (12 year-old) daughter's dating career before it starts -- if I found out an older boy took my daughter to a hotel (after the prom or any other times) without the full knowledge and consent of all parents involved... I'd consider pressing charges for statutory rape, unless I could find something more serious -- kidnapping might be useful or conspiracy to commit kidnapping (the parents are the ones I'd really like locked up). If the roles were reversed, I'd expect you to do the same... even tho' my expectation without our real conversation is dangerous.

In exchange for your consideration, I can assure you that I will try NOT to let anything happen to your child that would make you want to put me or my child in jail. Is that fair? Heather


In response to the e-mail from a parent regarding the discussion about prom night and hotel rooms, and wanting to go beyond the "boys will be boys" mentality. I have an 18-year-old boy and a 16-year-old girl so I can see this issue from both sides of the fence. More importantly, I have had frank discussions about sex and sexuality with my children since they were young. Not that I had anticipated telling my children about sex, or even homosexual sex, at the ages of 6 and 8, but being forced to come to grips with the fact that our children are exposed to issues I know I never was even as a teenager. This came out of watching the Ryan White story and trying to explain AIDS and consequently, homosexuality. I was VERY uncomfortable but it made me take a good hard look at what my children were dealing with. I've talked to both my children about sex and responsibility and the differences in meaning of a sexual relationship for a teenage boy and girl. With my son's first girlfriend, I talked to him about the emotional ramifications for both of them about having sex. Since she was a regular visitor at our house and we were relatively comfortable with each other, I also talked to her about protection and responsibility, especially since I knew her situation at home (her father was abusive). This was a girl who, because of remarks she made, I thought was in danger of intentionally becoming pregnant to remove herself from her family and ensconce herself in ours. Because her mother refused to even talk about things, I took them to Planned Parenthood so she could get a check-up and they could get birth control. I also talked with my son about the need to use condoms EVERY TIME regardless of whether his girlfriend was on the Pill; that if he was going to participate he had to share the burden of responsibility. We talked about in detail what it would be like for him to be a father at the age of 16.

I have approached it much the same way with my daughter, talking with her at length about the emotional ramifications, not just the physical possibilities of pregnancy and STDs. None of this has been easy for me, at times it's quite difficult. But I think it is VERY important for us as parents not to consider teenage boys' and sex as "boys will be boys," which I consider to be turning a blind eye that would be wide open if their son was female. Yes, our kids hear lectures on sex and responsibility in their sex ed classes, but they also learn it from their parents' actions and reactions. A "boys will be boys" wave of the hand is an implicit condoning of their actions by their parents. Children learn how to assume responsibility based upon what they see as well as what they hear.


I am the mother of a 15 1/2 year old daughter (and a 6 year old son). She has been interested in and involved with boys for the last 3 years or so but until recently that seemed to mostly involve talking on the phone and hanging out together at school. Within the last 6 months she has started to take a more serious interest in the boys she dates and we are on to the second boyfriend she is serious enough about to bring home. Though she is more serious than she was in the past she is clear that at 15 there is no rush to get heavily involved or committed. She is well educated about sex and all the precautions she should take if she decides to be sexual. We have also talked about the emotional aspects of sexual involvement. My suggestion to her was that until she and her potential partner felt comfortable having a frank discussion about safe sex and pregnancy prevention that they were probably not ready to be having sex. If she actually follows that rule of thumb she'll be a virgin into her 30's - how many adults really feel comfortable with this type of discussion - but it is food for thought for her. My goal for her is not that she abstain from sexual activity because of moral beliefs, instead I want her to wait until she is old enough to be enriched by her experiences not overwhelmed or degraded by them. With that in mind, we try to provide the limits that help her be safe from doing something she isn't ready for. Our rules are that she may not be inside anyone's house with boys if there are no adults home, and that if she has a boy over at our house that they may be in her room but the door must stay open (her room is right off the main hallway). She, of course, tells us that these are unreasonable and that NONE of her friends' parents are sooooo strict! Since we are not supervising her every minute it is likely that she does not always follow the rules but they are there for her to help her modulate what situations are and are not comfortable for her. And if we find out that the rules have been violated we ground her, and I swear there are times it seems she deliberately creates a situation where she will get grounded because she needs some time to regroup and can't take it for herself.

Recently I spoke with her new boyfriend's mother and I unfortunately felt like she was not interested in discussing supervision issues with me. Beyond agreeing to my supervision request there was no discussion or discourse. I think it is imperative that parents of dating teens try to have some discussion about what the expectations are and to make sure that the kids know what the parents have discussed. I think that this is exactly what our daughters and sons need from us to create an atmosphere of mutual respect and to help them resist social pressures. By discussing with each other and our young adults the realities of sex, romance, peer pressure, and choice making, we model the kind of respectful communication that we hope they will bring into all their relationships, and we bring these issues out of the fantasy realm of Dawson's Creek into the realistic world that they inhabit.


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