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From: Carol (3/98)
At what age do kids learn their times tables these days? Or maybe
I should ask, at what age should they know them? I know some kids
in 5th and 6th grade who have been taught to count on their fingers,
and that's where they're still at. I'm shocked, but maybe for
no good reason?
From: Dianna (3/98)
Re: Times tables - my son is in the 3rd grade at LeConte Elementary
here in Berkeley and he is learning multiplication, although they
do not seem to be learning the times tables per se. I distinctly remember
learning them myself in the 4th grade. I'm toying with the idea of
teaching him the times tables this summer, as a fun thing to do in the
car. Chanting the times tables is almost the same as chanting a poem, to me.
Dianna
At school my daughter learned the times tables (through ten) in third
grade. At the beginning of fourth grade they reviewed the times tables and
extended them through 12. (It's possible they began the process during
second grade, but I don't remember.)
Susan
Our kids were drilled in facts (+,-,x, division) in 4th grade. They had 1
page sheets of each type which they kept testing themselves on to get their
time down (and kept graphs of their progress.)
Barbara
Regarding learning multiplication tables. Mastery (memorization) in 3rd
grade with review in 4th grade. It was a class/home project to learn
addition and multiplication math facts in third grade.
Kathryn
My son is in the 5th grade and he is not very familiar with the
multiplication tables yet although he does know it. He still needs to
think a little (and I'm sure do some adding in his head) on it. However, I
learned the multiplication tables in Taiwan as a first grader and was
definitely able to give the full multiplication table (up to 9's) by the
end of 3rd grade. Since I was definitely anywhere among the top of my
class then, I know that children are "capable" of knowing it by start of
4th grade.
I think the educational system here tries to avoid memorization (maybe a
little too much in my opinion). I think at some point, the kids just have
to use memorization/repetition to memorize things. We try to do alot of
math with our son at home. We do try to help him to do some repetition in
writing the multiplication tables and continue to review with him. At the
same time, we try to let him use it on a daily basis whenever we can such
as grocery shopping at the local store, or even when he buys candy with his
own money.
Diane
Like Diane, I learned my times tables (up to 9's) at age 6.
My mom and I just sat down together and chanted them,
with a little cheat sheet with nine columns of decreasing length,
organized by "1 x _", "2 x _", etc, to "9 x 9".
The memorization certainly didn't hurt my later learning
of the concepts behind multiplication; in fact they probably
helped me see the patterns that "times-ing" makes,
better than I would have otherwise . (I remember little
diagrams with squares made out of dots; and also noticing how
there were nine "1 x _" facts, eight "2 x _" facts, and
later I realized this had something to do with commutativity....)
I think it's not a bad thing to have these facts
in your head without having to punch them into a calculator;
this way you're better able to tell when a typo or whatever
has been made and the "output" is way off in the wrong neighborhood.
Not that memorization solves everything... later my father tried
to teach me algebra by rote, which is kind of inappropriate.
But for the times tables early memorization really does a good job.
Joyce
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