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Jan 2011
We're looking for elementary, possibly middle, & possibly high
schools that do not have homework or much less than the standard
school. I've heard Beacon Day School doesn't have any for the
K-5 years. Are there any others? Is it possible that any
public schools follow that policy? How about middle school or
even high school?
I keep reading more articles about the growing realization that
homework does not make that much of a difference in how kids
learn and test on various school subjects. As a parent of an
elementary school child, I can see the benefits of learning time
management, but frankly, the homework seems overly redundant and
more like busy work. I'm also really feeling like homework takes
away from the experiences outside of academics that really help
to shape us as well rounded, critical thinkers.
Would love to hear of any schools that parents have found
recognize that and have worked out a curriculum for that.
DONE with homework
Check out The Renaissance School
if you want a school that gives no homework.
It's a pre-school through middle school Montessori school located in the Dimond
District in Oakland. We too were appalled at the amount of homework even
Kindergarteners get in many schools, both public and private, and have felt
that The Renaissance School is refreshing in its approach to education. The
Renaissance School has a wonderful program, including strong foreign language,
music, and art. The elementary kids start their day at 8am with a half an hour
of singing. The regular school day ends at 3:30pm for the elem kids, but they
can stay as late as 6pm either continuing to work on things from earlier in the
day, or engaging in many addition interesting activities. The only thing the
elementary children are required to do outside of school is regular reading
which we think is a good thing.
TRS Parent
I assume that many have viewed the excellent film ''Race to Nowhere'' as it
raises the issue of overworked kids. I'd recommend it to anyone who shares your
concerns about saturating a young student's time. I am a college professor (15
years teaching) and I have seen in the past ten years freshmen students'
capacity for reflection and unstructured problem-solving diminish severely and
alarmingly. And, I think much of this problem is due to incredibly structured
formative years -- homework, grades, and too many after school
classes/activities at the expense of ''free'' time. I will be looking at the
posts regarding your question about middle and high schools because I have the
same concerns as you.
My own child attends
Crestmont School
(El Cerrito/Richmond hills). It is a K-5
Cooperative and supports the idea that kids and their families do interesting
and educational things during free time. The cooperative nature of the school
means parents are engaged in the education of their children and work with the
teachers on all aspects of the school. Homework is limited in scope, it
increases slightly by grade level to gently introduce the concept of organizing
one's time and meeting deadlines as preparation for middle school. But the work
is often given in a weekly packet (not daily) and is more creative than the
worksheets that I see friends' children doing nightly for public school. My
third grader is able to adjust his homework around other activities and he has
time to play and relax after school. He actually has time to engage all of the
educational toys and books that we have amassed over the years and that he
works on self-initiated creative projects -- plus a little homework -- tells me
that balance is there for him. My third grader chooses to film and edit his own
movies, composes music, reads books, and builds ridiculously complicated Lego
structures --all after school because he has time to do it. Crestmont honors
the spirit of childhood encouraging fantasy, play, and imagination which I
think allows each child's spirit to flourish in his or her young years and
beyond. Crestmont has no formal grades nor tests and assessment is performed
in written narratives, progress matrices, and parent-teacher meetings. If there
are doubts about this style of education, Crestmont can show that our kids have
historically done very well when they have matriculated to traditional academic
settings in private or public middle schools. If you are interested in K-5, you
can find more info about Crestmont at crestmontschool.org
Parent at Crestmont
I'm glad you also asked about public schools, for there definitely are some
that are actively moving away from having tons of homework. We have a 4th
grader at a BUSD school in which the admin and teachers have made a school-wide
commitment toward reducing homework for all the kids. Of course the actual
homework will be somewhat dependent on the teacher, but I know that it's
discussed, encouraged and facilitated at our school. Our son, for example, has
reading to do and music he should practice daily, but other than that, he has
about 15 minutes a day of something from a weekly packet. Occasionally he'll
have a short math review page as well. He has plenty of time to play and relax
after school and on weekends, which is absolutely essential for his mental
health. [ours as well]
Ask the principals/directors of the schools you tour, and ask about the
policies per grade, and even if teachers have some leeway in what they assign.
You may find out more specifically if a school has a ''no homework'' policy or
actually just a ''minimal homework'' policy.
Good luck!
-happy BUSD parent
You should definitely take a look at
The Berkeley School. I share your views
on homework, and you will find that the teachers and administrators at TBS feel
the same way. There is basically no homework prior to 4th grade, and very
manageable amounts for 4th through 8th grades. More importantly, the homework
that is sent home is always thoughtful, and builds on something being done
during the school day/week rather than just being busy work. Our Head of School
thinks that kids' homework should actually be ''the work of the home,'' as he
calls it -- kids helping out, being with family, recharging their batteries. I
am happy to talk to you personally about our experience at The Berkeley School
if you would like.
j.s
The Montessori Family School
(MFS), 7075 Cutting Blvd., El Cerrito,
510-236-8802, has a very reasonable approach to homework. There is
very little outside work in the early grades and it increases in a
way that is manageable. I have relatives who attend public school
in Berkeley and the West Contra Costa School Districts and the
amount of homework they have from even kindergarten is very
excessive. It really cuts into family time during the week when
things are busy anyway. I was so happy to learn about MFS's policy
of not piling on the homework so that students can enjoy their
families and participate in activities that are educational within
the context of family activities. I am relieved to know that we
will not be robbed of family time while my child is a student at
MFS. Give them a call and learn more. The school is great.
Happy parent
I want to recommend Walden School
in Berkeley as a school with a
''gentle'' homework policy. I am not sure what happens in K-3 at
Walden because we have just started this year for the 4th grade. But
homework in 4th grade is MUCH more reasonable and also MUCH more
thoughtful than what we have experienced in public school or other
private schools. There is reading a book of his choice every night, as
in other schools. There is a weekly project due on Weds. customized to
tie into instruction for the week. Example this week is writing about
pros/cons of California's aqueduct system. Then there is one short
nightly assignment which alternates between math and language arts that
takes an inattentive, distracted kid 30-45 min., for example a couple
pages in the math workbook. There is no busy work, no brainless
discouraging stuff, none of the xeroxed sheets we'd grown used to in
the past. Sometimes homework still doesn't get done, and the Walden
teachers will sit with my son the next day to work on it. They also
check his assignment book every day, adding notes as needed. I really
like the way they do things at Walden.
G.
Dec 2009
My daughter is a first grader at an OUSD school. She
struggles with the homework, and often copies others in
class to get by. We spend up to an hour, M-Th, on her
homework (spelling, writing sentences, math, reading). I am
concerned that it is both too much work and too much
pressure (she has told me she is 'dumb') and/or that it is
too hard/going too fast for her for some reason. While the
principal is supportive of the fact that my daughter may be
a 'whole language learner' rather than a phonetic learner,
and may have some 'spatial processing' issues, her teacher
has asked me to 'push' her more, and do homework 'in 1/2
hour intervals, with breaks'. To me, this seems like way
too much, and not addressing possible learning differences.
I am wondering if others have had this experience, and how
did you advocate for your child?
anon
I have a first grader an an OUSD school. We too struggle
with completing the homework. Sometimes we don't finish
and I usually write a note to his teacher. I think there is
a lot of pressure to keep up and it's very difficult for
some children. I think for my son it is a matter of
readiness for the reading and writing; he seems to do okay
with the math. My son often comes home with unfinished
school work and I've noticed that he will look to the other
children to figure out what the task is before he completes
the work during the day (he may be a visual learner for
directions instead of oral?). I had an SST (student
success team) meeting with the school and his teacher.
They seem to be concerned about my son's progress but are
taking a wait and see approach which I feel is
appropriate. My wish is that the school and his teacher
give him time to be ready for reading instead of pressure
to be at the same level as other children in his class. So
far I am happy with this approach. I am gently encouraging
work at home but if he melts down about the homework we
stop. Incentives such as left over Halloween candy seem to
help greatly! If you want to talk more off line, ask the
moderator for my email.
anon
The general rule (given by the state as well as the National Association of
Pediatrics) is 10 minutes per grade level. So, a first grader should have
around 10 minutes per night, give or take five minutes.
My middle child has a mild processing delay, and what takes most kids 20
minutes can take her an hour. So, I did two things. One, I requested an SST
and a 504 meeting at her school (if you are in a public school, you can
request this, in writing, and by law they must respond to you within two
weeks). The SST meeting will help you and her teacher (and the school
psychologist and so on) decide what you all think is going on, and what
testing you and they think should be done. Then, modifications can be
made, if necessary, for your child in order to meet her needs (both in and out
of the classroom).
The second thing I did was to say that as her parent, *I* will decide when she
has had enough! If that means doing half of the math problems instead of
doing them all, so be it. If that means I cut her off after 20 minutes, then so
be that!
I have always had teachers who support me and my daughter. I have never
had a teacher insist that my daughter do more than she can at home. It is
insane to imagine a child your daughter's age doing an hour of homework!
That is a 6th grade expectations, not a first grade one.
Please ask for an SST meeting, and do not take no for an answer. Legally, the
school must do this, if you ask. How horrible for your daughter if she is
simply a slow processor, or a child who needs to learn through touch, that
she is essentially punished for being who she is! An SST will help you identify
what her needs are, and will help design an appropriate approach to learning
for her and you.
Good luck!
You must be an advocate for your child
Our public school has a really great family resource
specialist, whose motto is ''The teacher has your kid for a
year. You have her for life.'' Meaning that, despite the
teacher's best intentions, your responsibility to your child
is stronger, and you know your daughter better. So, if you
feel like it's too much pressure (and it sounds like your
daughter is starting to suffer), it's too much. At first
grade, you can decide your daughter will only do 20 minutes
or 30 minutes of homework a day. It's ok.
As for how to advocate, I think it works best to be polite
and respectful, and to put things in terms of working
together to help your daughter succeed. Even so, you
absolutely should be firm about what's not working, like the
homework, and what you'd like to try. The teacher may not
like it, but if your daughter's getting discouraged, she's
only learning to have low expectations of herself. That's a
hard thing to unlearn.
It would be good to look into learning differences. For this
you ask the school, in writing, for an educational
evaluation. Better to do this sooner rather than later;
while the school legally has to respond within 60 days,
things can drag on. Check out a book like ''Negotiating the
Special Education Maze'' for information on the process.
Best of luck-
PhD with an LD
An hour of homework for a first grader is ridiculous. I
would take it upon myself to modify it if I were in your
situation. I know this is hard. You don't want to alienate
your child's teacher, and you want your child to do what
others are doing. But really, why do we need to beat the joy
of learning out of children at such an early age? My
daughter had a lot less homework in first grade, and it was
still a challenge.I think the most important thing to do is
shared reading in the evening. For example you read one
page, and your child reads one page.If it's any comfort, my
daughter was actually ''behind'' in reading in the lower
grades, but is now reading grade level material with ease.
We were in the same place last year. We ended up not doing
all the homework and concentrating on the reading. We
continued the reading throughout the summer and now she is
doing great. It takes a lot of girls longer to catch on to
reading. If she thinks she is dumb read easier things, or
do fun things she enjoys- scholastic or not. Second grade
is a year for catching up to the concepts that she may not
have gotten in first grade. We always felt we were barely
hanging in there- doing A LOT of teacing.
It will be fine. It is good that the principal is on board.
anon
Hey,
I should have responded when you first posted. I am a first grade teacher in
OUSD and I think the idea of an hour of hw is totally absurd. When I was in first
grade I'm not sure we had ANY hw. Currently the guidelines are that teachers
should give around a 'page' of hw for each grade. In the past I have had families
who request more and families who request less. I respect all of the families
who make the effort to speak to me about their children and the hw, and I tell
them that while the pages I give (usually a reteach of the phonics or math skills
for the day) are meant to help the children to learn new skills, the only thing I
really care about is reading. I read with my family every night until I went to
high school, and I LOVED it. I was very successful in school and university,
largely due to this emphasis on reading, and I still love reading more than
almost any other activity. If my students learn to read, and love to read, and
read to learn, I will be happy.
Carrie
Sept 2009
We are trying to find kindergarten classes that do not give homework. We really cannot
afford private school but have major reservations about local public schools. We are
willing to move (around Oakland, maybe Berkeley) to get into a school, but don't want
to go through that to be faced with homework after all.
If your child's teacher has a no homework policy, we'd love to know!
Thanks!
kinder-searching mama
You will probably have a bit of trouble finding a teacher in OUSD who does not give
homework (or who will admit to such). I believe the district has an official policy of
homework every night (something like 10 min. per grade per day).
However, in my experience, many teachers are willing to work with you and your child
individually on what is reasonable and works for you.
anonymous
Wow. I guess I can't help you. We had a kindergarten teacher
that gave light, fun homework, some that we could all enjoy
participating in, and my kindergartener learned a lot from it.
be openminded about homework
Can't speak for Oakland, but Berkeley public schools are on the
homework-in-kindergraten bandwagon. Why? Doesn't make any sense.
My slightly-above-average 2nd grader has not been able to complete
ALL the homework (which includes nightly reading) a single week.
Hi there,
I think it really depends school-to-school and even
teacher-to-teacher what the homework situation is like.
My daughter was in kindergarten at Oxford Elementary in Berkeley
last year. Her daily ''homework'' was for me to read to her at
least 15 minutes every day and we had to log what we read.
Totally no big deal (I read to her way more than that anyway; I
just had to remember to write down some of what we read).
Then there was a monthly homework sheet that they sent home with
various activities and you had to choose I think 3 per week. A
lot of them were artistic (draw a picture of what you think Fall
looks like, draw a picture with a moon shape in it, etc) or
pretty simple (how many letters are in your name? What's your
phone number? Or sort of fun for me to do with her .... Tell
someone a story about your day or What are you thankful for? We
just had to turn it in at the end of the month with X's on the
activities we chose and a few sentences about what we learned
(parents and kids). Sometimes it was tedious, but some of the
activities were sort of cool. My daughter was always happy to do
them and sometimes wanted to do every single one.
There was also math homework, but it was optional. Sometimes my
daughter wanted to do it... she really likes math concepts. But I
never suggested it or pushed it at all and didn't ever turn
anything in.
I also would have preferred absolutely no assigned homework, but
I found what we had acceptable. This year she's in first grade
and it's yet to be seen what the homework will be like. All I
know is that it's mostly math and it's supposed to take 10-15
minutes a day.
I know that some of her kindergarten friends at other BUSD
schools had daily worksheets that they had to complete at home
and return at school the next day. Given that you don't know what
school you'll get in Berkeley, there's no guarantee....
Good luck with your decision!
Not a homework fan either
May 2009
I'm encouraged that there are now discussions taking place about
homework for grade school children. My daughter will be entering
kindergarten in 2 years, and I am now researching schools, both
public and private. Ideally, I would like her to be in a
progressive school that does not assign homework for children
until 6th grade. I know that Beacon Day School has such a
policy, and I am wondering about others. Please share your
knowledge of various schools' policies on homework, and at what
grade assignment of homework begins.
Thank you!
Looking for recommendations
This is a very timely question. There was an essay by Peggy
Orenstein in yesterday's New York Times magazine about finding an
East Bay school for her child that does not give homework in
kindergarten - see ''Kindergarten Cram''
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/magazine/03wwln-lede-t.html?ref=magazine
I asked this question when I was looking at kindergartens three
years ago, because I have already been through the homework
nightmare with two older kids and was anxious to avoid it for as
long as possible. At that time, Head Royce didn't give homework
till 2nd or 3rd grade, and St. Paul's until 2nd. I'm sure there
must be others as well (and you already know about Beacon.)
But if you don't want your 4 or 5 year old to have homework, then
you probably are not going to like public school. My friends with
kids in Berkeley and Oakland public schools have all been dealing
with homework since the get-go. And there are some school
districts that are even crazier. We have friends in the San Ramon
school district whose kindergarter proudly showed us her
homework, which was to write a story about what she did over the
weekend and illustrate it. This was in the fall, at the beginning
of the year! She did a lovely job, obviously a bright and
talented child. But I was trying to picture my own son dealing
with this assignment -- he could barely write his name legibly in
kindergarten and couldn't compose a sentence until halfway
through the 2nd grade. How would a kid like mine feel about daily
pressure to do something he is not developmentally able to do? I
imagine it would be very stressful and defeating.
My son is now in 2nd grade at St. Paul's, which we chose partly
because of their homework policy, although it turned out that
halfway through first grade, the kids began to get homework ''to
prepare them for 2nd grade''. Argh. The homework assignments are
modest, and expected to take only 15 or 20 minutes, but my child
is not exactly Mr. Speedy when it comes to math and spelling, and
who wants to come home from ''work'' anyway and do more work? Many
days, resistance and procrastination can easily stretch a
15-minute task out to hours, often extending the school day well
into dinner time. This is not fair to my kid or to our family
life! I honestly don't see the point of homework until 4th grade
at least.
I hope others on the list have suggestions for you about schools
that are more enlightened about homework.
Tired Mom
Ah, homework. Yeah, we hate it too, kind of.
As far as the policies in different schools go, our own public school
experience has been that it largely depends on the teacher. Our
school [a small BUSD school] sends home a sheet at the beginning
of the year letting parents know what's expected and why, and
honestly, I was surprised that it wasn't more. [I was told to
expect a lot and, for my 2nd grader, it states 10 - 25 minutes].
In Kindergarten, my son had no homework to speak of, while the
other class had a little packet of coloring that was due at the
end of the week. First grade was the worst for us. While the
other class had one or two [very easy] worksheets, my son's class
had a [thoughtfully done] note of instructions, which required
him to actually write stuff himself instead of just filling in
worksheet blanks. For a kid who hates writing, it was the worst.
This year, he has one or two worksheets [still only M-Th] which
take him minutes to do. While I think they demand way less
imagination than last year, they're also way easier. And, like last
year, he's expected to spend some time reading.
The idea of homework - letting us know what they're up to in class,
and developing habits that will take a kid into later school years - is
OK with me. However, I'd like more clear flexibility and communication
between parents and teachers about it. In first grade, for example,
when my son had such a hard time due to his ''blank page'' anxiety,
I wish the teacher had made it clear earlier on that we could help with
the parts that were structurally difficult for our kids. It took us a long time
to figure out that we, his parents, could turn his blank page into kind of
a worksheet, which wasn't then so intimidating for him.
And about the time expectations - of course that's going to end up
different for every child. My kid would take hours last year just fighting
the process. Once he began it, the work itself didn't take long.
We learned not to sweat it too much. His teachers seem to care more
about it this year, although a lot of kids in our class still don't do it.
One last note: at our school, the afterschool program has a guided
'academic hour' [after an hour of enrichment] during which the separate
grades read and work on homework. When my son goes, he almost
always finishes his work, with no complaints.
-j
My experience at Berkeley Montessori
has been no homework until 4th grade, and not
a ton of it then. Even better, when my kids were in first through third grades the
teachers would talk to them about ''homework'' being the work you do at home, and
encourage the kids to talk about the kinds of things they did at home as contributing
members of their family. Setting the table, making their beds, helping with dishes,
emptying the waste baskets...kids all had different things that they did that varied with
their ages and their families, but I really liked how talking about it this way both set an
expectation about kids helping out and honored their contributions.
Ann
Like you, we don't feel that homework is helpful to our young
kids. Happily, we have found a school that doesn't assign
homework until 4th grade (and then not very much), and
de-emphasizes testing and grades, while emphasizing
individualized learning. The school is
Berkeley Montessori
School, which has a campus for 3- and 4-year-olds and another for
K-8. Their website is http://www.bmsonline.org/.
A happy BMS family that enjoys our homework-free evenings together
Jan 2006
We've been checking out kindergartens (public and private) for my son
next year. Yesterday, we visited our local public elementary school,
and
one of the kindergarten teachers there mentioned that she assigns
''half an hour to an hour'' of homework a day.
This seems excessive to me, not to mention that I can't imagine my son
actually doing it. I'm hoping that this is just because the teacher
teaches
half-day classes -- and next year, when they change to full-day
kindergarten classes, the amount would be reduced, because there'd be
more class time to do the work.
My question for the kindergarten parents in the group is this: how
much
homework does your kindergarten student do on an average night?
Does 30 to 60 minutes seem excessive to you? And how would you
induce an active boy (who is not much interested in writing, though he
LOVES being read to) to do homework?
Karen
My kindergartener has a full day of school 9 to 2 in a berkeley
public school. He gets a homework packet once a week on a
Wednesday and returns it on the following Tuesday. The packet
contains 5-7 pages of work. It takes him a half hour total and
he usually does it in two sittings.
hope this information is helpful.
My son is mid-way thru his kindergarten year in the Castro Valley
Unified School
district and I volunteer in the classroom weekly-the homework
phiolosphy at our
school is yes-homework comes home on friday, its due Wednesday....if
you did it all
at once it would take 45-50 minutes HOWEVER the goal is a couple
smaller
increments to develop ''study skills.'' It is usually re-inforcement
for what they are
learning in class. I think there is a lot going on in kindergarten and
most kids have
some skill set they need to improve upon. They are expected to be able
to write
(alphabet(caps/lwrcase)#'s thru30), read, and write 3 sentences by
June. This in in
addition to the social dynamics, trips to the library, computer and
science labs...all
between the hours of 11:30 to 3pm because our school has a half day
program.
Prior to starting kindergarten you might want to bring your children up
to speed in
the alphabet and basic printing skills. Not only is Lakeshore Learning
in San Leandro
a great resource for materials but there is a series of workbooks at
Barnes & Noble
put out by Kumon that help with ''pencil skills and letter/number work
for AGES
3PLUS...An hour per night of homework seems excessive given everything
else they
are expected to learn.
sydney
We have a daughter in private Kindergarten. She attends from
8:30-3pm each day and has about 15-30 minutes of homework a
night. I don't know if an hour of homework is the standard in
public school but I will say that our child LOVES doing homework
! Your child might love it as well and it may not be the burden
you think. Also, in discussing homework with our daughter's
teacher, she told me that if our kid is too tired - don't do it !
She thought it more important that our child think of homework
as fun and not a burden. The teacher you spoke with might have
the same attitude so you won't feel so much obligation. Best of
luck!
- love homework
To the parent of too much hom ework in Kindergarten.
The answer is YES it is WAY too much! WAY too much!!!!!!!
Follow your
intuition.
At our school (Park Day) the children in Kindergarten got
about an hour of
homework to do over 4-5 days! We got a homework packet on
Thursday and it
was due on the following Tuesday, so the kids could either get
through it
quickly or take their time. There was also work that was
optional for more
advanced students. 15 minutes is enough. The (very well
established)
research shows that homework makes absolutely no difference in
learning
until 6th grade, and homework given prior to that is a way to
build the
habit of after-school learning practice so that when 6th grade
comes around
it's deeply ingrained. The children gain no additional
knowledge or know-how
by doing that much homework, and it’s a terrible burden on the
parents, on
family, on family relations, and stresses-out the children
terribly. I would
say, don't do it, read to your kid at night, play fun learning
games with
colors, shapes, easy math, words, language. Go for hikes, walk
the dog and
do a building project. Your child will thrive in school, and
you can just
tell the teacher your child will not do the homework.
Best of luck!
arodman
We're looking at schools for our kindergartener for next year and
we are very interested in this topic, because we don't think
kindergarteners should have homework. Two of the schools we've
looked at do not give homework in kindergarten: Head-Royce and
St. Paul's. HR, which is considered an academic school,
doesn't give homework in 1st grade either
(not sure about St. Paul's) Probably there are others too, but
these are the ones I know about and these are the ones I'm applying to!
a Mom
Sept 2005
The first month of school is not over yet, and I'm already
battling with my kindergarten son over homework! He has to
write upper and lower case letters -- a letter a day -- but he
has never liked writing or drawing. He's imaginative-creative,
but not into the visual arts. He is VERY strong-willed. I
have already cajoled and bribed, and I don't like who I'm
becoming. It is already stressful for both of us. I don't
really want to open a discussion about kindergarten homework --
he's in a Berkeley pubic school and I think I just have to
accept that. (I think there is too much too soon -- let them
get used to the school first!!-- what happened to the
kindergarten I had? oh, yeah, it's called preschool now!) What
I would like to hear from
those who have been there and created successful homework
routines and habits is how?! What works for you? My son is
overwhelmed by the change from preschool to Kindergarten - will
homework get easier once he's more accustomed to his new
environment?
Homework Hag
This is from a homeschooling mom's prespective. I would venture a guess that your kindergartner is not complaining about the idea of homework per se, but the actual handwriting. It can be physically difficult for young boys to write. My son just turned
7 years old and is just now mastering his penmanship. My goal is for him to be able to write legibly with upper and lower case letters by the end of the year -- when he will be close to 8. I tried to have the same goal last year and it was too hard for him. So far this year the difference in his ability is like night and day. He writes well in upper case and has way more control to form lower case letters.
I'm not suggesting you homeschool your kindergartner, but I'm just reminding you that it can be physically hard for younger kids to do things we take for granted. Some skills (fine motor skills, for example) develop at a different rate than others. I don't know if you've considered talking with his teacher about suggestions for making homework easier for him (and you!). I'm sure s/he has been there, done that before.
Laurel
Nov 2005
My son is in first grade and he hates homework. I think he
mostly hates the writing part of it, but he writhes like he's in
pain, whines, throws (small) things and yells at his little sister.
I checked the archives and didn't see anything regarding this
sort of thing. He has tied his own shoes since he was four, so I
don't think he needs OT, but something's gotta give. Also, his
handwriting is terrible.
This is stressing us all out. He gets a weekly homework packet
and it colors the entire week culminating in a tantrum the night
before he turns it in. At this point, early in the week I bust
my a-- to get him to do a few pages, and then lose it entirely by
the end of the week and tell him to finish only if he wants to.
Help!
Signed, On the brink
I had one of those...now a 4th grader.
Personally, I think 1st graders should not have homework.
Our solution was to leave it up to our wonderful first grade teacher,
who had him stay in for a few recesses and do it.
Eventually he would do some at home and some at school, but it REALLY
ENDED our home battles.
Some kids develop their skills later on and doing homework is just not a
fair thing to ask ALL little kids to do.
My now 14 yo on the other hand would ask for MORE HW...go figure!!
Good luck, I really sympathize.
anon
Here is how I solved the homework issue with my first-grader. I had him
choose how he wanted his homeworks to be done. Not doing his homeworks
was not an option but he could decide how to have them done. After
discussion, he decided that when he comes home from school he should
have a snack, play for 10 minutes (I put the timer on) and then do his
homework. While he plays I look over what need to be done that day. When
it's time for homework, we go over what he needs to do so he has no
surprises and he decides in what order he wants to do it. I think the
key here was to have him in control over how to do homeworks and
establish a routine. It has helped him and me tremendously. I felt I
needed to find a peaceful solution because this is just the beginning of
years and years of homeworks. So, you might want to ask your son how he
wants to solve the problem.
m
A friend's child had a related issue. I'm not suggesting that this yours
is the same but I thought I'd share his experience. He let it go for a
few years before addressing it since the child was so accelerated in
other areas. It turned out that the child had problems forming letters
(dysgraphia) which caused a lot of stress doing homework. They now
address this with special excercises and tutoring.
anon
April 2002
My son is in the 2nd grade in a Berkeley public school and
he is just turning 8 years old. This year he has started to
get regular homework assignments. He is very resistant to
doing homework and tries all kinds of tactics to avoid
getting his homework done. These include - going to the
bathroom, saying his foot hurts and he need to rub it, even
just staring at the page and saying he can't do it. Even
tho my husband and I sit with him and try to help him out,
he is still resistant to getting it done. He usually does
the parts that he finds easy ( ie: math problems) first,
and then starts the avoidance tactics .
I would like to hear from other parents who have faced a
similar problem with a child of this age and how they
solved it. I am interested in an approach that emphasizes
positive motivation rather than punishment. Any advice
would be welcome. Thanks.
Ellen
I had this problem to varying degrees with my 3 sons, and
found that getting myself out of the mix was the best
solution. Once they got it that there were reasons for, as
well as consequences for not doing homework, which were
unrelated to parental nagging, they accepted the
responsibility. Eight is not too early. You don't want to
get into the nagging rut because it will never end (they go
to school for a long time).
Exactly how you do it will be individual to your situation
and relationship with your son and his teacher. With one of
my sons, we had a parent/teacher/child discussion about
homework, in which everyone stated their position. Mine
was: ''I'll be glad to help you with your homework if you
get stuck, but it's up to you whether or not you want to do
it.'' The teacher explained the homework ''rules'' and asked
if he was having any problems with it. In this reasonable
environment, he was hard put to think of any. After that,
it only took one or two times of my ignoring his whining
for him to get it.
It's great to be out of the loop! Good luck.
Susan
My daughter is in 2nd grade, and we also experienced this
problem for several months. Things that we did that helped
(many suggested by her teacher):
-- Get your child's vision checked both for visual acuity
(which is the 20/20 stuff) and visual tracking. We found
out that our daughter has visual problems that make her
eyes feel as tired as a 40-year old! (She had her eyesight
tested at school in kindergarten and no problems turned
up.) She is getting glasses and will do several months of
eye exercises. She was diagnosed at the UC Eye Clinic in
Berkeley.
-- Consistency: Have your child do his homework at about
the same time of day, in the same place in the house.
-- Environment: Create a quiet place for homework to be
done. Create a place (desk drawer?) where homework and
other tools (pencil, ruler, etc.) are kept.
-- Back off: Our daughter's teacher tactfully suggested
that it might help if we were a little less involved in our
daughter's homework (I am so guilty of this.) Homework is
hard and takes time away from playing, which understandably
can lead to complaining and resistance. The teacher made
us realize that we were providing our daughter with the
opportunity to resist homework every night by sitting down
and, while doing it with her, entering into a conversation
about the merits of homework. Essentially, our daughter
didn't want to do homework, and she would engage us in
conversation about it as an avoidance tactic. Now, while
she does homework, we are nearby to answer questions, but
are also clearly engaged in some other activity. This has
really helped.
-- Tell your child often that you are confident that he can
do the work. (But don't engage in a longer discussion when
he inevitably says ''but I can't do the work!'' Otherwise
this becomes another avoidance tactic.)
Interestingly, when we suggested to the teacher a reward
system (gold stars for completing homework without a big
fuss, followed by a present for X number of gold stars),
she gently discouraged us from doing this. She explained
that it was crucial for our daughter to develop a sense of
ownership and responsibility for her homework, and for the
motivation to come from within our daughter, not externally.
anonymous
I am a psychologist who works for the Berkeley Public Schools
supporting parents and teachers in their work with children.
I also have a private practice as a parenting and family
consultant. I have worked with many parents who have
struggled on the homework front. There are a number of
different things you want to consider to improve your
situation. First of all, how much homework does your child’s
teacher assign on a daily basis. As a second grader, he
really shouldn’t be expected to do more than 1/2 hour of
homework a night (not including the 15-20 minutes of reading
that most teachers assign). If his work takes longer than
this, and you are struggling, you may want to ask the teacher
if you can ease off.
It may also be a good idea to let your child’s teacher
know that you are struggling to get the homework done.
Teachers usually have good suggestions for emphasizing some
parts of the homework over others. They can also give you
input based on what s/he sees your child doing in class. It
is important to recognize that the purpose of homework is to
practice what your child has learned in class. If you feel
like your child is struggling too much at home, then perhaps
you should seek to simplify the work. Engaging in a daily
struggle with your child is more detrimental to his learning
than him not fully completing each assignment.
One thing that is often helpful on the home front is
following a daily homework ritual, where homework is done
during the same time period each night. When this is done
consistently, children learn to expect it, and ultimately
become less resistant. It is important to stick with this
plan, even if it doesn’t seem to help at first. Children (and
adults too) will often test the boundaries of anything new,
and it can take some time for your child to realize that you
are serious and committed.
A reward system is also a good idea. A Friday treat for
having done all of his homework with little or no resistance
often works. One family I worked with had some success taking
their child for an ice cream cone Friday evenings if he had
been able to complete his homework each night during that
week. Keeping a fun, daily record of completed homework
(perhaps using stickers) is a fun way for your child to share
how much progress he has made.
While direct punishment can make the situation worse, not
allowing privileges when homework hasn’t been done is often
successful. For instance, a lot of parents won’t let their
child watch TV or play video games before their homework is
complete. In this way a homework battle can often be avoided.
You can tell him (without showing anger) that of course they
can’t engage in the particular privilege when homework hasn’t
been completed. Again, consistency is important.
These are just some basic tips. There are always new things
to try, some which may be more or less successful to you. The
thing to keep in mind is that while school success is
important, it is also important for an 8 year old to love to
learn! Good luck.
Lisa
Feb 2003
I think my child, who is in the 3rd grade, is assigned way too
much homework on a daily basis. But, how much is too much?
My child is very diligent and works at a reasonable pace. Still,
it can take more than 1 hour, sometimes 2 or even 3, to get the
work done. I think this is outrageous. It seems to me that in
the third grade a 1/2 hour to 45 min. is about right and
occasionally 1-1/2 to 2 hours might be needed for
a special project.
Am I way off base here? Is this just the way it is as they
progress through school?
Anon
As an educator for over 30 years and as a parent of a high school
student, I have to say the subject of homework makes me crazy.
Homework during the elementary years (K-5) in particular, is of no
academic benefit to the child, especially if the homework takes
too long and cannot be done independently without stress. Getting
in the habit of reading (independently or with an adult or older
sibling) for 20-30 minutes a day can be beneficial, as can
spending 5-10 minutes practicing spelling, or playing a math game
to reinforce number concepts. Any work that involves parental
intervention is probably not appropriate. Workbook pages,
answering questions from a text, huge adult-dependent projects are
very stressful for most families, especially those with children
who are struggling in school. I urge you first of all to let the
teacher know how long it's taking your child to do the work,
because sometimes he/she has no idea and will modify the work, if
not for the whole class, then for your child. No 3rd grader should
be doing 1, 2, 3 hours of homework! The teachers are often under
pressure from their school or district (or from parents who feel
their children should be working harder and achieving more) to
provide a certain amount of homework for each grade level, but if
enough parents and teachers speak up, maybe these policies can be
changed. Some children LOVE doing workbook pages and massive
homework. Let it be available for them. Some children are
academically gifted and love to pursue various subjects. That will
be apparent, and those kids will ask for what they need. I want
kids to enjoy school, and see learning as interesting and
rewarding, not as a drudge. Our children don't have enough time
to PLAY or to pursue their own interests. Not to mention how
lovely it would be if kids came home (even after music lessons,
scouts, sports, etc.) and could JUST RELAX with their families.
There will be plenty of time for them to work hard in middle
school, then high school, then college, then in life. Do we need
to stress them out as young children?
anon
I think you are 100% right to be outraged about the amount of
homework your 3rd grader is getting. Think how much time it must
be taking the less focussed, less self-directed kids. The
National PTA standard is 10 minutes per grade level (ie not
reaching 2 hours/night until 12th grade). I found that the
large amount of homework given to my children in 4th through 8th
grade had a longterm negative effect on their schooling. They
hated it so much that three very bright, inquizitive children
became negative on all aspects of academic learning. (Luckily our
school district seemed sane through 3rd grade. Unluckily, the
policy reversed starting in 4th grade). I say start fighting
with your teacher/principal/school district now about the amount
and quality of work, and get other parents involved. (My
youngest son's 4th grade teacher expected high-school level work
for written assignments, only possible with total parent
involvement--ridiculous!) We've been pressing our school district
for about 4 years and are beginning to see some results. For
years we got the line ''for every parent who complains there is
too much, there is another parent who claims there isn't enough.''
Then they surveyed the 7th and 8th grade parents, and more than
1/3 said too much, less than 10% said too little. It's not fair
to your child so keep on it. Kids who spend all their free time
on homework don't have time for self-taught learning on topics
that interest them, don't have time for sports, and are likely to
want to veg out in front of the tv and computer when they do get
a break.
Anti-homework crusader
When I was in school in the seventies we got no homework in 3rd
grade. I've been a teacher for 15 years and kids get a lot of
homework these days. I think 1 hour of homework is reasonable,
more than that seems a bit much. Sometimes taking a long time to
do homework is an indication that the student is having trouble
with some of the work. Have you talked to the teacher about it?
Even if your daughter is not having trouble, I would talk to the
teacher about your concerns. I always appreciate parent
feedback, especially concerning my expectations for what the
kids will be doing with their time outside of school. Usually I
get a majority of parents wanting more homework and just a few
wanting less. The teacher has to try to balance the needs of all
the parents.
Good luck.
Danielle
My son is also in the third grade, and at first I too found he
had too much homework. Like your child, there were days when we
would spend 1-1.5 hours together working on his homework.
Compared to the second grade, I thought this was too much. But
as time went on I've notice that the length of his homework is
generally dependent on the complexity of the assignment how much
of it he really understands. My son, for example, loves math.
When they were doing multiplication problems, he would finish
math sheets in a hear beat. When they moved onto division he
struggled some but then mastered the process and now breezes
through those assignments. A couple of weeks ago his classes
started doing long multiplication, it's once again taking him
longer he has to sit down and really concentrate. Homework does
usually takes him about 1-1.5 hours daily.
I think it's great! Especially since I've noticed him enjoying
it and feeling confident.
3rd Grade Mom
When one of my kids was in 3rd grade, I was helping out in class
one day when the teacher (who was the one in our desirable public
school that all the parents tried to get for their child) made a remark
about little Stevie not completing his homework because his dad ("who
is a professor at Cal!" she pointed out) will only permit Stevie to
spend 30 minutes on homework each night! Stevie is not like the
rest of us! she said. His daddy must know something we don't! She
was annoyed and was complaining to the rest of the class, which I thought
was pretty unprofessional, but it did give me the idea that I could set a
time limit on homework and then just let the teacher know about it.
My kids always struggled over homework, hated doing it, and I absolutely
hated how it took so much time away from family time in the evenings,
especially when it was so often just brain-dead busywork. I think
it is reasonable for parents of young children - and the third grade
is young! - to limit the incursions of school into the family time
at night, especially considering how many of us work full time
and don't see our kids except at night. Why should our only time
together be spent nagging and whining over homework? Just put a
limit on it. (This only works for the lower grades. The teachers in
middle school and high school could care less what your policy is at
home - your kid will flunk if he doesn't do the homework.) I also
helped my kids with projects that I thought were beyond the
scope of what they were reasonably able to do. I typed up stories
for them that they dictated, I thought of science projects and helped
build them, I operated the calculator while they called out numbers,
and I provided illustrations for "creative" assignments as needed.
I know some of their friends never got this kind of help from their
parents, and many of them were and are super academically motivated
on their own. My kids were not, and I figured if their teachers
couldn't get them to that point, then I had better step in and
do some damage control. They are old now, doing just fine, one in
college and another a year away, no worse off for doing less
homework than everybody else. Plus we have a pretty nice relationship
based in part on years of cooking dinner together and playing board
games and watching movies instead of doing hours of homework.
Name withheld to protect the guilty
I think homework is way over rated. I may err on the side of no
homework at all. Whatever plusses it offers are outweighed by the
impact on the family. Who has time for a family now? What I see
happening is a slow increase of deadly amounts of mostly
irrelevent homework which drives wedges between parents and kids
and deprives them of independent time for cultural activity and
following their own curiosities which is a fundamental requisite
for being healthy and human. And after doing all this homework,
years of it, because it ''prepares them for the next step in their
educations'', what happens is that they finally graduate from
college, get jobs and spend the next 20 years on a shrink's couch
trying to learn how not to take their work home. It is crazy
making and actually destructive. To those who say children need
homework because it teaches them how to organize and plan, I say
that those skills are essential, yes, but they are not automatic
and should be taught in the school, with supervision, on school
time, not by throwing wads of work at children who need to be up
and inventing, playing and relating, and just assume they will
somehow know how to accomplish it. There is now a whole industry
of tutors, coaches and therapists who do nothing but help children
adjust to homework loads. Is there something wrong with this
picture? All right. This is all just: My opinion.
But, in the practical sense, what can you do about the
situation? That's the system, right? I used to oversee my
daughter's homework, and when she brought home assignments, we
would sit there and ask ourselves what it was they were trying to
get her to learn. If the answer was ''not much'', or the assignment
was ambiguous and a waste of time, I'd instruct her not to do it,
and I'd call the teacher and impart my decision. Not sure if the
teachers loved my phone calls, but we have a very close family,
and my daughter, now in high school, is brilliant, curious,
engaged in learning, and at the top of her classes. She
thinks about what they're telling her to learn. Now then, I don't
think there is much flexibility in the public sector. We've
chosen private schools (and our mortgage shows it). We selected
schools that emphasize learning, not tests and homework. Does
this help? I've just comiserated, but maybe this doesn't offer an
alternative. I am nearly sure that I am in the minority. I am
willing to struggle with this as long as my children are in
school. I don't think it's necessary to train children to be
obliging while doing pointless busy work, but it is necessary that
they learn how to learn and how to seek information, how to love
learning, and how to tell the difference between hard work for a
goal and submission as a way of life. So sue me.
Tobie
Like other people who responded to your posting, I think it is
outrageous the amount of busy work that elementary school
children are given to be done at home. Creative work that can
only be done at home (like, interview your mom about..., or a
few short drills on math skills or spelling words taking a few
minutes each) makes sense to assign for homework. But the hours
of meaningless work that is assigned these days -- supposedly at
the request of parents -- is only creating children who hate
school and who will already be sick of doing academic work by
the time they reach middle school -- a time that valuable
homework can finally be assigned. As another poster noted, in
the 70s very little to no homework was assigned for K-6 grades.
I was more than ready to do homework, and was excited about it,
in 7th grade when it was finally assigned to us. If I went to
school today, from what I hear from my colleagues (also
professors at Cal) with kids in the K-6 grades, I feel I would
be so burned out by middle school that I would not enjoy
intellectual pursuits. Younger children need to play (in both
organized and spontaneous ways) -- THAT is their homework.
I sure hope that lots of parents complain *now* and keep
complaining, because I will send my (now toddler) to a public
school and I will not allow him to do unreasonable amounts of
homework in elementary school (and it will probably embarrass
him greatly, unfortunately; another Cal professor with their
back up about too much homework !). I hope the ''homework
pendulum'' swings back to something reasonable by then with help
from concerned parents (and teachers who also posted) like you.
An advocate for schoolwork in school not at home
Homework in 3rd grade
I just feel moved after reading the responses to the
homework issue to *thank* all of you parents ranting
against excessive homework. My child is still in preschool
so it's not relevant yet but I had a hunch there was going to
be something coming our way in the future. Thank you all for
thinking independently about homework. I'm all for letting
children relax and learn without adult induced stress. Long
live childhood.
Ilona
In regard to the Home work problem in many schools. A friend of
mine formed a group (of parents) who pressured their local
public elementary school to reduce the amount of homework given
to all grades successfully. I think they agreed upon 15 mins
per grade so that 1st grade was 15 mins plus reading, 2nd was
30 mins plus reading and so on.
Worth a try.
It was a total revelation the day I realized that at least
through 3rd grade, PARENTS can usually dictate how much homework
their child does. I've sent notes explaining that my children
were unusually tired that evening and needed to go to sleep
early, other notes saying that we had a family event (for
example: older kid performing in school event)that precluded
finishing that day's homework, and even notes that said the
homework was just too much to finish in a reasonable time
(sometimes I would say that we'd finish it over the weekend if I
felt that it was worthwhile finishing for my child) or that
the homework was way too repetitive of skills my child had
demonstrated mastery over so I wasn't going to have him do more
of the same old thing. Written nicely and with respect, I've
never had a Berkeley public school teacher give me (or my child)
problems for these notes. On the other hand, the BEST teachers
had a comment space on the homework assignment (or weekly packet)
that ENCOURAGED parents to give feedback about which if any
of the homework was too repetitive or conversely which homework
really had been a challenge for your child (so the teacher could
vary in class and homework assignments accordingly). I agree that
for K-3, homework should be reading, reading, and reading as well
as skills that can only be learned with repetition such as
practicing basic arithmetic and spelling facts, some memorization
(poetry) OR more long term creative assignments such as science
projects and interviews which can't be done within classroom
time. And, a child so young shouldn't be made to spend more than
30-45 min. doing repetitive work (reading is EXTRA!)
Karen H.
Oct 2002
Would love some insights as to how other families (parents)
facilitate the completion of homework on a school day that
contains after-school activities. Our third-grader now has more
homework to do, and her interest in extra-curricular activities
has also expanded, but she's understandably tired at the end of a
long day and we're wrestling with the right formula for work and
play. (She doesn't actually do much after school yet,
just soccer, but would like to add in one or two more
things, and I am reluctant to do this until I have a
better gameplan for the homework). Suggestions and strategies
would be most welcome for supporting these two important areas.
Thanks.
Deborah
My son is also in the third grade, and I have found that it
often takes him 1 hour sometimes more to complete his homework.
Unlike last year where it was probably 30 minutes or so. On top
of that he is expected to read 15-20 minutes every night.
Considering that my husband and I work full time, and neither of
us are able to pick him up from daycare until after 5pm. He
normally does not get started with homework until 6pm, unless he
has soccer practice. On those days, homework is not started
until after 7pm. Sometimes I find it really hard to get him
started, other times homework is fun and he breezes through it.
I find sitting down with him and encouraging him throughout his
studies really helps him out. We've had our squabbles with him
sometimes, but I know it's because he's tired and can't put his
all into it. I know I can not leave him in his room and expect
him to finish his assignments. He's more a hands on person, know
what I mean?
Like your daughter, my son enjoys extra curricular activities.
So recently we signed him up for gymnastics, one day a week on a
day that does not conflict with soccer practice. I find placing
him in varios activities allows him to release all the energy he
has and tire him out for bed earlier in the evening. Healthy
snacks and a nutritious breakfast and dinner is a definite must,
god knows what he eats at school. And allowing him to be a kid
on the weekends has also helped. Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays
are his time. We allow him to be a kid and not worry about
school or anything else, and generally our weekend schedules
revolve around his play time and what he wants to do. He plays
outside, watches TV, hangs out with his buddies, and just
relaxes. Sunday evenings at around 5-6pm, we prepare for the
upcoming school week, we have him take an early shower, and he
relaxes till dinner and bed time. We constantly remind him of
the importance of school, and explain to him that his education
is what will help him excel in life. But like most kids, he is
most worried about what his buddies are doing.
Just hang in there and encourage your daughter in everything she
does. It may cut your time in half, and force you to give up a
lot of personal time. But in the long run I think it is very
rewarding for the child to be active in after school programs.
If I recall correctly, studies have shown that children involved
in extra curricular activities always do well in school. I think
it's just a matter of knowing how to balance everything out, and
showing your child to do the same.
Good luck.
mom
Jan 2005
I am wondering how much help parents are giving to their 4th
graders with their homework. I know that the ideal is that kids
are able to handle this responsibility independently. His teacher
this year certainly expects this. However, my ten year old boy
does not yet seem capable. We have tried to put it on him and he
ends up getting sent to the office to finish certain assignments.
This is humiliating to him and does not seem to be helping. He
does finish about 80% on his own, but spends so much time
fighting the homework that it takes him a long time. His
organizational skills are also poor as is his handwriting. His
''grades'' (numbers) are good, but the homework issue is becoming a
battle ground at home which I know is also not helpful. His dad
and I are wondering how involved others are with their children's
homework.
Anon.
Being the parent of 4 children, ranging in age from 23 to 13, my
husband and I have certainly experienced the gamit of public &
private education in the bay area, along with their homework
policies.
I think you first need to ask yourself as parents if all of the
homework is relevant. Children in both public & private school
settings are given what we term in our household as ''busy work''
it has no real value toward their education and is typically
boring. We have (if requested by one our children) helped them
with the ''busy work'' in order to create time for the important
school work and other aspects of development such as music
lessons or other interests.
All children are different, our oldest daughter never wanted
help on anything after the 3rd grade, great student, super self-
movitated and at 22 will be graduating from college with
honors. However, our youngest (13) is also a highly self-
movtivated straight A honors student, both private and public
educated. Our 13 year loves having her dad and I involved in
her school work. She typically studies for tests with our
assistance, that being - going over the information with us and
exploring better ways to remember specific information. She
loves sitting with her dad each evening while doing pre-
algrebra. Dad LOVES math and is able to share with her a
deeper understanding and appreciate for the subject than any
schools I've ever experienced.
If your child wants you involved, you should be involved. I am
not saying do the work for you child, but actively be present.
It can be very time demanding, but it is worth the investment.
Also, keep in mind, not all children approach their homework the
same way. Few kids like sitting at a desk doing homework for 2
or 3 hours a night. I watched our kids spread out on the beds,
take over the entire living room most school nights, one liked
to sit at the kitchen table and enjoyed my being close by,
another seemed to do his homework all over the house, rarely
seeming to sit still. All of our kids have been high achievers,
they have preformed beautifully in college, and more importantly
are good people.
Be patient with your son, find out what works for him, be
involved, but be clear that his homework is his responsibility.
Let him know you are willing to talk about his homework and
explore organizational ways to help him get the job done. Long
term projects can be daunting for a 4th grader, support him in
learning about process and how to plan ahead. It is a fine line
between helping and doing and it is your responsibility as a
parent to know where to draw the line while supporting your son.
Good Luck!
Kate
You are not alone - Your right about they should be more
independent but if I do not stay on top of my son's homework it
just won't get done or not done right. I spend at least 1- 2
hours a night working with my son to complete his homework and
to write neatly - he's great at school and popular but at home
it's like pulling teeth - He's smart but hates to perform
homework that does not interest him. He has a project to write
about a mission and to build a model of the mission and he's
doing just fine but his math or language oh boy no real interest
there. I now have my son attending a homework club after school
twice a week and that seems to be working. On those days his
homework is done. It's just a matter of working with your son
along with patience. Good luck. . .
Yolanda
hi,
i think 4th grade school becomes more serious than previous
grades so there is probably a leap your son has to make in
terms of organization and stamina (mental) to keep up with the
material and work load.
My step son had great difficulty beginning in 5th grade and
even now in 8th grade continues to struggle to keep up - given
many circumstances that didn't help him succeed.
Anyhow, your involvement is very important to his success but
try not to make him dependent on you. Focus on one goal at a
time. The first one being how to stay organized. Where he
should put papers, having a good binder w/ clearly marked
dividers, and having one place to put his homework assignments
(like a little calendar book). Work w/ him on this first.
Also, check each homework assignment and make sure it is
properly headed - name, date, subject. Small things like this
make a big difference. don't badger him w/ the mountain of
mistakes he is making - it's way too overwhelming. take one
step, then move on.
you will be amazed - my son actually has neat writing now,
whereas before he looked like he did his homework in the midst
of a tornado. he used to literally scribble his name slanted
in the middle of the top of the paper and think that was
sufficient.
after he get's a ''system'' down. then start to see where he is
really struggling subject wise. often times many boys
(excepting that small percentage that excel) don't do well cuz
they don't care - probably counter to you or your wife's
achieving natures. my son always does the minimum and
sometimes his idea of what the minimum is doesn't qualify as
passing - well it did in 4th grade, but not in 8th.
then, give him strategies to complete his homework
successfully. Discuss what he has to complete, then talk about
what the best approach would be to completing it in a timely
matter. Also, try a timer - my son's mind wandered very
easily, so the timer helped him focus. Say you have 20 minutes
to complete your math. that's it, then you can check it and
help w/ problems he couldn't figure out.
always check to make sure he put his assignments away properly
in the binder so he can find it the next day. the slacker's 2
favorite answers are, ''i forgot it'' and ''i can't find it''.
in terms of ''putting it on him'' - make him do the work. don't
do it for him. check the work, if it is wrong or incomplete,
send him back to finish and don't let him get away with
incomplete work - he's setting and learning important standards
of work now and if you let him go to school w/ incomplete
assignments, he will get the message. if he or you both don't
understand how to do something, it is fine to mark it on the
paper and get help from the teacher. he has to learn how to
identify where he is unclear and find solutions to getting the
answer - but not from you and often we are wrong or learned how
to do things differently.
mostly i think our job is to set good standards, reinforce,
check, give them training (ie organization and standards) and
support them positively. after years of failed lecturing only
the ''total positive parenting'' approach has given us any
success.
also, communicate with the teachers and find out what systems
they have to assign homework - where do they post it. they
usually have a very clear and simple way to make sure the kids
know where to find out their assignments. it helps if you know
it too.
if he has the assignment book, then you should look at it every
day and see if he writes them down clearly and properly.
this would probably amount to a full time job mentally but only
an hour or 2 of real work time for the parents...
best of luck!
still training too
Your letter could have been written by me or my husband. All
of what you said about your son is true for mine (except his
teacher requires them to stay in the classroom during recess to
complete assignments, rather than being sent to the office.)
So, the way we've started working it is that we have him do his
spelling book and math problems on his own. Those are very
well-defined topics, and he doesn't tend to wander with them so
much. When it comes to writing assignments (answering
questions about a story they read, or writing a story or
report), we work closely with him. He will write as little as
possible, in incomplete sentences if we don't. We help him
think out what he wants to say, and then I will say it back to
him the way he said it so he can get it down on paper.
Sometimes, for a longer report, he dictates to me while I
type. Check with the teacher if this is okay, though. Some
don't approve of it, because there is the temptation to make
your own corrections. Good luck--my son's teachers have not
been concerned, so I guess they figure he will grow out of it.
I can only hope it happens soon!
Parent of a 4th Grader
Looks like you have totally left it on the kid. I have a 4th
grader. He does his homework every day. H only asks for
something that he is having trouble with. He does writting
practice every day. Usually he writes a page about how he spent
his day. That gives writting practice as well as keeps me
informed of his activities and feelings during the day.
He can play after he finishes his homework.
I spend about 10/15 minutes with him in the end, going over his
homework and discussing it with him. making corrections and
telling him to do it over if it is not neat or correct. He
doesnt like that, therefore to avoid it he tries to do it
correctly the first time by himself.
If this approach doesnot work with you and it is a constant
battle for the two of you as well as a mood
destroyer..........Find a smart high school kid , who will come
and help with homework for $10/hour.
It is worth it for the confidence that he will gain, and your
peace of mind.
A friend of mine does that and it has done wonders for the kid.
sherry
I think parental involvement is crucial at this stage. From
personal experience, and seeing what's occurred with my siblings,
I have found when parents do not teach a child how to be
organized, the children's tendencies are chaos and some
failure/guilt/esteem problems as well. This is part of setting a
child up to be a successful adult, regardless what life path they
choose. The sink or swim idea is great once they become adults,
but it's not fair to throw them out like that without setting up
a strong foundation, which takes years and consistent effort to
put into place - elementary years are a wonderful time to start
laying that foundation.
I only wish my parents had sat with me, and helped me develop the
habits necessary to keep my assignments organized, sectioning out
the longer projects into manageable chunks, so I'd never have to
cram, crunch, get behind or feel overwhelmed/incapable.
As it was, they just said ''Do your homework'' throughout the
years, never extending their involvement. It was up to us kids to
figure out how to manage our time and workload, and the truth
is... we all failed miserably in school, despite our
intelligence, because while we easily slid by in our early years,
in high school/college, we discovered you can't get by on smarts
alone; you need to be diligent in completing coursework, and know
how to study, in order to succeed. We didn't know how to do this
- noone ever taught us.
Having said that, I don't think parents should do the homework
for the child, because that teaches a kid that they are not
responsible for their own domain, and that ''someone else will do
what I don't want to do''. Guide and explain that which is not
understood when necessary, but let them learn how to
problem-solve until it's clear the problem is beyond their
current capability to reason it out.
I think parents' job is to create the structure, the framework,
within which the child does homework. As the years progress, the
child will have this habit solidified, and the parents can ease
up, as the child will understand what sort of routine to create
to get all the work done.
anon
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