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Jan 2011
I am a stay at home mom of a 7 month old boy. I feel that I have
practiced attachment parenting - he has been exclusively breastfed
until recently when we started introducing solids, we co-sleep, I
carry and/or wear him daily, he has only been watched by someone other
than his grandmother or father twice in his life. Yet recently he has
started to show a very strong preference for his father. My husband
is a wonderful and very involved parent and I am thrilled that my son
has bonded with him but I am starting to feel very rejected. My son
rarely smiles or laughs for me like he does for his father. When I
hold him, he reaches for his father. He will cry sometimes when I hold
him but calm down as soon as my husband holds him. He still nurses
wonderfully but when he is finished eating, he pushes me away and
looks for his dad. I am trying to be mature about it but am starting
to feel very unappreciated and sad. I have even contemplated just
going back to work. Has anyone else had this experience? Am I doing
something wrong?
Missing my mama's boy
We went through the exact same thing - I'm also a big fan of
attachment parenting, and my now 10-month old became his
dad's biggest fan for awhile at around 7-8 months...though
he's since moved into more of an equal preference mode.
After I got past the initial hurt/sadness, I realized that
it showed how secure he was - the babies that I've seen that
I would characterize as ''less secure'' (Admittedly a judgment
on my part!) wanted only mommy all the time, and never made
the natural move beyond the mommy-only phase (which I've
been told happens at about 4 months, again at 9-10 months,
and again at 2-3 years). It did sting a bit when he first
started preferring dad to me, but at the same time, I love
that he feels confident enough in me to be able to expand
his boundaries this way. I think all the holding, cuddling
and co-sleeping is paying off, because he's not afraid that
I'm going to go away if he leaves me for his dad. It also
really helped his Dad to bond more deeply with him. :)I know
this first small step of independence hurts a bit...but I
truly believe that it shows how healthy your baby's
attachment is!
Samantha
It's totally a phase. My son went through the same thing
around that time and I remember being jealous then too.
And then it passed. So don't worry and be glad that your
baby is bonded ot his dad!
Lisa
My son, who is now 14 months, went through a similar phase,
but it was only for a brief time, say maybe a month or so,
at a similar age as yours. It was very hard for me also and
of course brought up lots of issues. My husband reassured
me a lot during that time, saying things like ''He needs you
more than anyone else in the world right now'' and ''Just keep
loving him, no matter what''. Hearing those two reminders
over and over again helped me immensely, as I was so sleep
deprived and feeling rejected and confused and wanting to
give up. Hold tight, it will shift soon. Just focus on the
love you feel and don't take it personally. If things
continue to be difficult, and you are able to, I would seek
some therapy help. Your baby can't afford to feel rejected
by you because you feel rejected by him/her. I hope this
helps and that the love you have for your child will fuel
you through this difficult transition. Getting more sleep
can help, too.
An empathizer
I'm so sorry you're going through this, as I know how painful
it can be. I have had very similar experiences with my son,
and it has been extremely hard. Please feel free to contact
me through the moderator - talking together might be helpful.
Hang in there, and all my best to you.
mama hanging in there too
June 2009
This isn't really a problem, or shouldn't be, and sounds really
selfish. But my 9 month old daughter just adores her father and
seems to be not really bothered about me! If it's just me and
her, or me and her out together she wants her mum, but if my
husband's here all she wants is Daddy. She crawls around the
house after him, and if I go to take her from his arms she shies
away and hides her head in his shoulder. She's even been known to
cry when i take her from him. And if she's in my arms and he
cames close she reaches out to go to him! He can also make her
laugh hysterically at the slightest thing, and while she smiles
at her mum I really have to work hard to get a laugh.
It's not really a problem, and I'm happy that she is a healthy
and happy baby, but I'm with her 24/7, I feed her, change her,
bath her and put her to sleep. Selfishly, shouldn't I be popular??
Has anyone else experienced this? Will it last forever? I really
hate that she turns away from way or cries.
Emma
Oh boy, that happened to me, too, when my daughter was about a
year old, and it really hurt. BUT, it was a phase. Soon I fell
back into favor or was at least accepted. Then it was my
husband who fell out of favor and he got jealous. So in my own
experience these things come and go in waves. Now I know to
take advantage of those times when she's favoring daddy and
reclaim some personal time. Hope this helps.
fellow mama
March 2002
I have a 3 1/2 month old daughter who I breastfeed and stay home with.
My husband (her daddy) has been very interactive and participatory from
birth. He spends a lot of the time on the weekends with her and I usually
leave her with him a couple of times a week for about an hour, during the
evening. Suddenly about 3 weeks ago she decided that she won't take the
bottle (of breastmilk) that I've left for her so, she would be hungry and
refuse the bottle and only get herself upset. Plus, it's in the evening so
she's overtired anyway so she's hungry and overtired and then nothing he
does will soothe her so she cries and cries. Then I'll get home he'll hand
her to me and immediately she'll calm down. He hasn't been able to put
her to sleep or do any of the ''soothing'' activities for the past few weeks.
It's making him really sad and making me feel like I can't leave her... I'm
wondering if she needs to just cry and cry with him until she figures out
that he can soothe her and calm her. I want us both to be equal in her
eyes - we both just love her so much! Any advice? Thanks in advance!
KMH
This happened with us too. It was hell for my husband. It only lasted a
few weeks, a month at most. He ended up simply putting her in her bassinet,
sometimes for as long as a 1/2 hour depending on his mood/patience. She
quickly learned she can cry and be by herself or be quiet and be held by
daddy. It got to the point that if she started crying and he started walking
towards the bedroom, she quieted down. So, it will pass. Also, I encourage
you to be able to talk about the feelings it brings up in each of you, as
fully and honestly as possible in order to avert potential feelings envy and
resentment.
Good luck.
I feel for your husband! It's so painful when a child has a strong
preference for one parent over another! This may be the first time, but it's
likely not the last.... It's hard to balance everyone's needs with a baby
because sometimes it's so hard to understand what's going on. I'm guessing
that your daughter is needing the stability of the connection with you and
the physical safety she gets from the familiarity of your body and from
nursing. This does not mean that you don't get to have any time for
yourself, though you might want to consider taking that time at a time of
day that is less challenging for her if that's possible.
You and your husband may also want to talk about how to be with your
daughter through the feelings that come up for her around your leaving.
Crying is both an expression of feelings and needs and a release of
feelings. If he can stay right with her, holding her and really being
present with her, I believe it can provide her the support she needs and
will assist her in creating the trust and safety she needs with him. This is
tricky, because I really don't believe at all in ''letting children cry it
out.'' It's all in both of your attitude: don't ''leave'' her - really be
with her when she's crying, and it can be healing. You may want to check out
information on children's crying in Althea Solter's books, such as ''Tears
and Tantrums,'' or do a search on the web under the author's name to find
some articles by her. I don't like everything she's saying, but as always,
take what works for you and leave the rest.
Anonymous
I am very sympathetic having dealt with the same situation you
describe with both my daughters. I would try to leave the house to
exercise in the evening and the baby refused to take a bottle and
would cry the entire time I was gone. Niether of my girls would take
a bottle willingly and we used up a lot of energy trying to get the
first baby to take one which was very hard on everyone. I tried
everything and asked advice from everyone who would listen because I
was very claustrophobic and needed a break. One way my husband was
able to deal with it was to take the baby for a walk in the Bjorn
which worked for a while, but utlimately it was too stressful for me
to know that it was a constant struggle for my husband to keep her
from crying.
I ended up settling for taking my breaks on weekends during the day
when my husband was home since it was a less fussy time for her.
During the week, we went for walks as a family. After she was four
months old we started giving her food (cereal) and it took another
month before she was really eating it. At that point, I was able to
leave her with him and know that he had something to offer her that
she could take. Evenings are still a fussy time, but my now 7month
old goes to bed at 7:00 and I'm able to do a 7:30pm workout.
I know how hard it is at this stage for your husband who is anxious to
show support and to be nurturing when he is home. All I can say is
that babies go through periods when the only want Mommy (or the
primary caregiver), but it passes. I had wanted my husband and I to
be equal in our kids eyes too and have found that we are ''equal'' for
our two year old. But while nursing and being the primary care-giver
to an infant it will be uneven at times.
My advice is to not give up trying new ways of accomodating your need
for time away and your husband's and baby's need for spending time
together. Your baby will be going through so many different stages in
the next year that what doesn't work one day may work perfectly a
month from now. It took us a while, but there's nothing better than
coming home in the evening to a smiling baby and husband who says
everthing went great. Don't worry - it will happen!
Diana
I sympathize with you. I had a similar problem. My husband had a hard
time soothing my son and would also get very sad when he was unable
to. About the only thing that would work for him was to take him
outside. One day when I came home I found my husband sitting in the
rocking chair with my son haphazardly strapped in to the Baby Bjorn
fast asleep.
Breastfeeding makes it harder for men to sooth babies, at least that
is what I found. When they are fussy with mom she can nurse them if
nothing else works. Dad's do not have that option, and they are
frankly less soft and swishy. You could try having your husband put on
a T-shirt that you have worn to bed.
As for not taking the bottle, maybe you should work on that when you
are home. It is almost impossible for my husband to sooth my son if
food is not involved.
Good luck and keep breastfeeding. I have for 11 months so far and
would not trade it for the world.
Joelle
You might try sleeping in a tee shirt or with a blanket at night, then
have your husband drape the tee shirt or blanket over his shoulder
when he holds her when you are gone. This may make her little 3 1/2
month old self feel more comforted by your maternal smell. This
method has worked well for others with young babies who get
babysitters or use day care. Best of luck to you for getting some
time off and for your husband to continue to be such a great father
and partner!
anonymous
We went through the same thing with our daughter at around the same age.
I
went back to work very part-time at three months and my daughter cried for
the first month every time I left. In the evenings when my husband came
home from work, she wanted nothing to do with him. We were both
frustrated-
I wanted a break, my husband wanted to bond. We solved this by me giving
my
daughter to my husband to hold. When she would start crying and was
inconsolable, I would take her back and soothe her. I would then give her
back to my husband. We would go back and forth the whole evening. We did
this for about a week and it worked. I think she wanted to know that I
would comfort her if she needed it and once she knew that, she was fine.
It's very common, though, for babies to just want mama at this age. They
will get over it, eventually.
Brightstar
My son did exactly this -- I used to leave him with his father for an hour
on most evenings, so I could go for a walk, and he would cry inconsolably.
My son's father has also has been very involved with him (he took a month
off after the baby was born, stayed at home with us, did half of the night
feedings, etc.). He too found it almost impossible to soothe him. It just
went away on its own at about 5 months, and now my son loves being with his
dad. It seems to me that the babies are just going through a lot of
developmental changes at this point, they are exhausted in the evening, and
they probably want mommy's smell as much as anything. If your husband
can
hang in there for a few more weeks, things will probably get a lot better.
Karen
March 2009
Our six month old baby boy is way more attached to his dad than to me. It started
around two months ago, when he woke up one morning and seemed to ''find'' his dad
for the first time. Ever since then, our baby seems to be fascinated with my husband
and is frequently content to just stare at him. I have always had to work really hard to
get and keep our baby's attention - my silly faces aren't as funny or captivating as his
dad's and he is way more likely to get bored or fussy when he's playing with me. He
does track me when I move around the room or if he is in someone else's arms and
little by little seems to be engaging with me - smiling and laughing more. He is a very
social little boy and likes to stare and smile at everyone (especially men and people
with dark hair). I was worried that I had done something wrong, but our pediatrician
said that everything is fine and this is just a phase
I'm super happy that our baby is so attached to his father, but can't help but feel a
little sad when it comes to our relationship. Has anyone ever experienced anything similar?
anon
I think this is perfectly normal and even healthy. My oldest
didn't do this but when I had my daughter, she went through a
phase where I was #3: daddy first, then grandma, then me! I was
home with her and I felt like she had a lot of attention. Even
tho it did hurt my feelings, I just ignored it as best I could
and it passed. I think, overall, my kids like us equally now so
it's all good. Don't sweat it. Just hand jr. over to dad and go
RELAX. Take advantage of the situation, Mama! Ha.
mom in demand
Take my advice: Revel in it! B/c in a few months that's all going
to change and you will not have a single moment to
yourself...your little one will want to be with you all the time
(while you shower, going to bathroom, resting, going to the
store) and if you're like a lot of my moms, you will feel guilty
for disappointing them when they ''need'' you so much.
Furthermore, the better attached with dad s/he is, the easier
your life will be later and less likely you're going to face
tears and seemingly agony when you leave (but you will face that
too).
I was very self-disciplined with my son when he was a baby and
ensured that I was NOT THE ONLY one who took care of him. Dad put
son to sleep, gave baths and I occasionally had nights out with
friends. Now at 2, when I explain why I have to leave ''I have a
meeting'' ''I have a class''. He's fine with it. But we still did
go through a phase where despite all the time he got to spend w/
dad, he still desperately wanted me.
So rest assured. This is good and healthy. And babies at that
age don't really give you all the ''I'm so in love with you mommy''
signs. They are discovering their world and the people in it.
Right now your baby relates to You/mom as part of/an extension of
themselves rather than a novelty. I wouldn't say s/he is more
attached to dad, just more fascinated with. So if she wants
their daddy, go have a cup of tea, go read a book and enjoy while
you can.!
attached mama
The pediatrician is right - babies do go through phases where
they are interested in particular people (or dogs, fish, special
toys etc). Dads are often highly valued if they aren't there as
much. Mothers get taken for granted. It's not a competition for
love, it's part of your child's learning process.
Fiona
Answer: Yes...99.98% of dads. But, seriously, the good news is
that these situations (i.e., baby/child feeling ''closer'' to one
parent) are not static, but constantly shifting, depending on a
whole host of factors (developmental, situational, and changes
in interests). I really doubt what you are experiencing is a
long-term situation. My almost-5-yr-old has already gone back
and forth between ''favoring'' my wife and I about a dozen
times. Hang in there!
John
My little boy who is now a pre-teen, has shown favoritism for his dad on and off
throughout his life. I think a lot of it is male/male dynamic. But, as they grow
older,
you will find there are other things that they enjoy more with mommy than daddy.
For
example, my son likes to watch cooking shows with me, and hence cook with me - and
he watches the latest pop crap with his dad. This is fine with me. ;)
There are cute little things that he only does with me, and his dad doesn't
understand.
Certain sense of humor, that is different with me than with him. Think about your
own
siblings or cousins or other family members that you have that special connection
with
and noboby else does.
There will be things that tie him to you over time. And, kids know when you're
faking
it. It will be the real sincere things that are unique to your personality that
will be a
special bond with your son, and not the same things your husband has with him.
Little Boys Love Their Mommies Too!
April 2002
My 8 month daughter favors her father and even her 2 day a week
caregiver over me. When I say ''favors'', I mean that when he walks
anywhere near her, she will cry if he doesn't pick her up. She tracks him
wherever he goes. She does not do this with me. Even when I nurse her in
bed, after I am done, she turns from me to stare at him. The amount of
time I spend with her does not seem to affect this behavior. If we have a
wonderful day playing and laughing, she still ''ditches'' me when she sees
him. Or, if I return from an absence, while she smiles at me she is content
to stay with him. She seems equally attached to her caregiver who comes
twice a week and sometimes on weekend nights. My husband works at
home and is able to spend time with her during the day or in the morning.
However, I spend the most time with her. I nurse her and feel we have a
very good relationship. She is an easygoing, affable little soul who seems
continuously happy. I like being with her and feel like she is happy with me.
I tell myself how thrilled I am that my husband and she are so close, and
that we have a caregiver to whom she clearly feels conected. However, deep
down, I feel very sad. I always assumed most children, especially those who
nurse, develope a primary bond, at least in the beginning, with their
mothers, and I can't help but feel I have failed on some level. This feeling
is pretty visceral and hard to ''think myself'' beyond.
Has anyone else experienced this?
anonymous
My daughter who is 17 months old has also always favored her dad.
Additionally, she adores her caregiver and never ever cries or seems
distressed when I leave. Like you, I also have a very good relationship with
my daughter. I understand your feelings about this. It has been hard for
me at times but I also truly appreciate the freedom it gives me. I know so
many mothers whose babies and toddlers cry when they leave and where no one
else can put them to bed at night. I have no problem going to work or
having a babysitter on Saturday nights. In some ways it really is a
blessing. I guess the best thing is to try to have a sense of humor about
it. Also, just because your daughter favors her father now doesn't mean it
will be like that in the future. The great thing is that your relationship
is very, very good with her. My advice would be to focus on that.
Madeleine
I had a similar problem when my daughter was about 9 months
old. Instead of my husband she favored my mom, who stayed
with us 2 days/week; her preference for my mom over me was *
very* pronounced. She basically wanted nothing to do with
me while my mom was here, except to nurse. I thought it was
odd since I was an almost full-time mom, with about 10 hours
a week of childcare. It hurt my feelings a bit, because I
felt like a feeding machine and nothing else, but I balanced
those feelings with gratitude that my mom and baby had such
a strong bond. As I recall she ''preferred'' my mom for a few
months, then it relaxed a bit. I think she prefers my
company over anyone else's now. I'd tend to think your
child is going through a similar phase, at a similar
developmental time, and it will pass. You are the mother
and you mean the world to your child. 8-9 months may be the
time they really start to bond with others besides the
mother (but I'm no expert). I can't tell you not to feel
sad, but I can assure you that it will balance out in time.
Christine H
I've felt your pain. My one-year-old daughter kisses
everyone but me, and this has been happening since she was
about your daughter's age. She also beams when she sees
her grandma, and she prefers her male relatives (daddy,
uncles and cousins) over me more ofter than not. I felt
sad the way you do, and I rememered how I felt about my
mommy and wondered why she didn't seem to feel that way
about me. But take heart - you are the center of her
world. When my daughter got her first cold, I was the only
one she wanted to comfort her. When she has a little hurt,
she comes to me because I am her mommy. She STILL didn't
kiss me goodbye when I went to work this morning, but
that's okay. I know that she loves me.
Christina
I've had a similar experience in that my 1 year-old son
seems to favor his dad over me. Even though I work
part-time whereas his dad spends more time away from home
due to work, it seems our son is more thrilled/happier being
with his dad. (We have been practicing ''attachment
parenting'' from birth.) When I asked other moms who had
similar experiences with their children, they have told me
that this is probably just a phase he is going through and
that he is learning to relate to his dad in a different way.
I would be lying if I said that I've never gotten insecure
and sad over this situation. However, I am trying to count
my blessing that my son has a very loving and wonderful dad
to whom he is very well attached. Hope this helps.
Monica
Boy, your posting could have been written by me. Only
difference is my daughter is 9 months old. I don't have any
advice per se. Just wanted to let you know that I am having
the idential experience and feelings. I'm with our daughter
full time while my husband works outside the home. It is
wounding but I think we must be careful not to harbor any
ill feelings. They pick up on EVERYTHING.
theresa
Both of my daughters clearly favored my husband as babies.
I was somewhat disconcerted when my older daughter was so
clingy to him and always wanted her daddy over me. This
actually persisted until my younger daughter was born, and
now the older one is a ''mommy's girl'' all the way. Now my
younger daughter prefers him and my older prefers me. I
think the preferences go in stages, and you should not feel
that it is something you are doing wrong. It sounds like
you have a wonderful relationship with your baby and your
husband does too!
Emily
I was glad to read this message. Last summer, I went through
a 3-month period where my then 2.3-year-old daughter sought
most of her comfort from my husband when we were all
together. When I was alone with her, she did want me,
but when the 3 of us were all together, she preferred him.
While I was truly glad that they had this connection, I felt
upset and envious and then felt guilty because I felt upset
and envious. It was a vicious cycle of feeling bad and I
knew I had to get out of it.
I received a lot of support from my husband and friends. I
was also able to start looking at it psychologically and
philosophically. For one thing, I realized that throughout
my life, I've loved both my parents, AND really adored my
father. That relationship was a true gift in my life and it
felt wonderful to know that my daughter would have the same
kind of connection with her father.
After that 3ish-month period, things shifted. When we were
all together, my daughter sought my husband for some things,
and me for others. Lately, she's been going through a
mommy phase. I've learned a lot over the past year, and
trust that when she has daddy phases again, I'll be able
to handle it better.
Good luck to you.
Jill
Although it is probably very hurtful, she is probably very
secure about you being around, she is not afraid that you
will leave and knows that she can turn her back on you
becuase you are always there. That is great, but I am sure
a bit hurtful. Rejoice in knowing that she trusts you and
your bond.
maribel
Dec 2002
Several weeks ago, my ten-month old baby began showing a
preference for her father, grandparents and nanny over me, her
mother. In fact, she seems to prefer everyone -- other than
complete strangers -- who are in her life over good ole mom.
I've looked in the archives and have seen postings about
preference for one parent over the other, but in this situation
the preference extends beyond the immediate family. It doesn't
seem to be related to the amount of time I spend with her (the
nanny and her father spend far less time with her than I do) or
to gender. And it isn't that she doesn't like me at all. When
I'm the only one around, she smiles and plays and hugs and is
generally fine. If anyone else walks into the room, however,
she turns away from me, reaches both hands out to the new person
and ignores me. When I mention this problem to other parents, I
get puzzled looks -- something that leaves me feeling alone and
ashamed. I know that it's good for her to attach to other
adults and to feel comfortable with people other than her
parents. I also know that her attachment to her nanny means
that the nanny is doing a good job and that I should be thankful
for it. So -- I'm not really looking for solutions or for ways
to change the situation. I guess I just want to know that this
is not unusual and that it will pass. I'd also love to hear
from other people about ways in which they coped.
Anonymous (please)
I want to offer a different interpretation of your child's
behaviour, and, most of all, about your achievements.
I doubt that your baby has a preference for other people
over you. A baby that spends most of the time with
her mother will take her attention for granted. While your
nanny did a good job making your baby love her, you probably
did a very good job - and one which is much more delicate -
in the first place: building up your baby's confidence in you
which enables her pay lots of attention to other people.
I have an almost 6 months old daughter, and she already tries to
get other peoples attention. When she sits on my lap in a cafe,
she would systematically look at each person around us,
one by one, until she can exchange smiles with that person.
Then she would move on to the next one. If someone doesn't pay
attention to her at all - and some people really stare at their
notebook computers with no breaks - her persisting flirting would
eventually turn into frustration. She doesn't care about
my trying to comforting her, she is just upset her effort
doesn't pay off. Nothing I can do for her except asking that
person to a smile at my baby!
There are different ways to smile and laugh, by the way.
There is a quick smile, like ''Hi, how are you doing?'',
or ''Hey, look at me!'', or ''Do you like me?''. It's about getting
attention. I also get that one sometimes - not when she happy,
but when she is anxious. For example, for my strict ''No!''
when she starts stretching or chewing on my nipple during
breastfeeding. And there is a very relaxed, life-enjoying fat
laugher which can go on and on over long peoriods. She would
do that only with people who really play with her paying full
attention to her, and who she knows well.
You may want to read a about early child development to get
more professional opinions than what I am making up from my
observations. I remember from my mom's group, that children
typically build a strong tie to their mothers around 6 months.
After that, they ususally look for a strong bonds with other
people, typically the father, grandmother, nanny etc.
So, while I can see that your baby's ''cheating you'' is
heartbreaking at first sight, it probably means that you did
well as a mother, because your baby learned she can trust you.
Julia
This was my daughter, age 9 mos to 2 yrs. The only difference
was she was afraid of most men except daddy and grandpas and she
had a strong preference for women over 50. In fact, if she saw a
woman of that age with an open lap, she'd just hop in. If given
the option to stay with any woman or me, she'd always choose the
other woman. (I'm surprised I didn't get out more.)She also
seemed generally blase about my presence. When I showed up to
get her from daycare, she'd look up, say ''oh hi, mommy'' and go
back to what she was doing.
To what do I attribute her abundance of enthusiasm for others
over me? Don't know really. There could be lots of reasons --
five days in an incubator in the NICU so we didn't touch enough
when she was a newborn, my having to return to work when she was
two mos old and grandmother caring for her, her naturally
independent personality and love of novelty?
Believe me, this did bother me. I thought I must be such an
innately horrible mother that she can't even feel attached to
me. But my husband demonstrated to me that she is attached to
me -- she does cry for me when I'm gone, she draws pictures for
me at school, when she's scared she seeks comfort from me, she
nursed until she was 2 1/2 -- just, for whatever reason, she
doesn't show it in all the other ways kids often do. His
argument was that she felt so secure in my presence that it
allowed her to explore interactions w/ other people w/out
worrying about my being around. Do I buy it? I don't know. but
I do know that she is still independent, still prefers school to
hanging out w/ me, still adores all the older women in her
life. It's just who she is. Sometimes I wish she were a little
more obviously attached to me, but I'm also glad that she moves
so easily in the world and feels so confident in new
situations. Sometimes I can predict the clashes we'll have when
she's a teen, and I dread them. But I do know she loves me, so
what else does a mother need?
I feel ya
Dec 2002
Lately I've been filled with angst because of the way my one-
year-old acts towards his father, my husband. I'm a stay at
home mom and I spend all day with my son, playing with him,
entertaining him, feeding him, etc., but when dad comes home
from work, his face lights up and suddenly mom is old news. He
cries when my husband leaves the room (not when I do) and only
his dad can put him to bed or there will be a screaming fit.
When he does something new he looks to dad for approval and the
worst of all! He says ''Dada'' and not ''Mama.'' (I know that's
very common, but still...) I feel unappreciated and jealous.
Why does he get all the smiles and the laughs when I do all the
work? I buy clothes and diapers and groceries and formula and
toys, I make sure everybody has clean pajamas and that the
kitchen is clean, I make my own organic baby food for god's
sake! but as soon as dad walks into the room, my son will
practically knock me out of the way to get to him. I feel like
a crazy jealous fool, and when I tell my husband how I feel (we
have a very close relationship and I can tell him everything) he
literally laughs at me and tells me I'm crazy. I suppose it's a
good thing that they have such a good relationship, considering
they don't spend that much time together, but I can't help but
feel rejected and depressed about it.
Thanks
Isn't that unfair. I too am a stay at home mom of a little one. What I have
come to realize is that my son is very happy to see his dad because he
doesn't see him a lot, a couple of hours a day, maybe. He is completely
comfortable and knows that I will be there for him, but he thinks he has
to vey for my husbands time. I know that because he is so comfortable, I
have done one of the hardest jobs well.
Remember that stay at home motherhood is one of the toughest jobs
you will ever love. I know that it is hard, but try to let him bond with his
father, he will always thank you. Kids tend to feel and act out on your
feelings, so try not to show too much jealously.
Good Luck
k
My kids are almost 4 and almost 2, and I have had the same
feelings you are having. You turn yourself inside out for your
child, then Daddy comes home like the conquering hero,
and you feel left out of the equation. It feels terrible, but you
know the old saying about lemons and lemonade. This is
your chance- lock yourself in the bathroom with some suds
and a good paperback. Do something to feed your ego,
treat yourself well. Go off-duty for a little while. Your baby
loves you and wants you, but a change of faces is good for
everyone, you and baby included. Take care of yourself,
and good luck.
mary
For what it's worth, my 9-mo-old daughter was fine with both
parents until I went away from home for four weeks. When I
came home, she became obsessed with me: she cries
when I leave the room, she always wants me to hold her
over anyone else, and she always lights up when she sees
me. If I ask my husband to put her to sleep, she is always
bitterly disappointed (until she gets too sleepy to protest).
My point is, you are a given. Take it this way: your baby feels
secure about you, knows you are there for him, knows you
will not leave him. He doesn't know that about your
husband. Remember, he's too young to have any concept
of time, so as far as he is concerned, Daddy simply goes
away at various intervals, and your son doesn't know why or
understand the regularity of the departures.
You are doing a wonderful job. Know that your son ignoring
you is a sign that he feels completely at home with you, and
only a mom who had done a good job would get that from
him. I know how you feel, my first daughter was very like
that, and I felt terribly left out, terribly unwanted. That way
lies madness! I ended up realizing I had some postpartum
depression going on, and just couldn't see the positive side
of it.
Don't let it get to you, you are doing everything right, and your
son loves you. Take it from me, if you were gone as much
as your husband, you would be just as much in demand --
because your son would not be as sure of you.
Heather
My baby seems ready to go to sleep every night and I can't imagine how I
would entertain her any longer - and then dad comes home and keeps her
happy for another hour or two. She always gives him a huge smile when he
gets home, even if she's been fussy with me. She will also cry when he
leaves the room. I am also a stay-at-home mom, and have decided that
she just gets tired of looking at my face all day. I've read many books that
say that the baby's allegiance will switch back and forth between Mom and
Dad, so I really wouldn't worry that it will be this way forever. Also, Dads
often have a much more rambunctious style of playing with the baby, so
perhaps your child really loves that stimulation. Remember that your baby
has no idea that you are cooking and cleaning and washing, etc. and can't
possibly know that he should be grateful for it (and might not, of course
until he's grown and living on his own and has to do all of it himself)! Your
baby loves you, he's just having a lot of fun with dad right now. Don't take it
personally.
LK
it's funny I have two almost opposite reactions to this
question and the other one about baby preferring others.
The first reaction is based on my own experience. My baby
preferred Daddy mostly and only rarely preferred me and it
broke my heart. I hated it and complained like you are. Now
my son (age 6) still would probably rather do certain things
with Dad (Dad will roughhouse and play sports forever, I
won't) but we still spend more time together and are very
close....So it did balance out over time.
My second thought is to imagine you have spent the whole
weekend with your husband and then your best friend
comes over for dinner. Aren't you likely to pay more attention
to your friend than your spouse? Maybe even seem to be
ignoring your spouse as you catch up with your friend? I
wonder if the babies arent' so secure in the knowledge that
you will be there that they don't need to capture your
attention but these other people who come and go require
more wooing and are extra exciting.....So the very fact that
your baby is able to ignore you shows how important and
special you are! OK, I don't know if that would have
reassured me during the throws of jealousy but it's worth a
try.
been there
I think this piece of advice applies not only to this posting, but
to the one about baby preferring everyone to Mom.
What's going on right now is NOT that the baby doesn't love you.
In both cases, the baby loves you lots, and you'll see that
manifested in many ways as the baby gets older. What's likely
happening is that the baby is at the age where he prefers novelty,
and gets more excited about something he doesn't see as often.
My son went through a phase when he was so excited to see daddy
that he almost seemed not to notice that I was there. It was the
same age when he started really disliking being in our house for
more than a day at a time without going out.
The very fact that you stay all day with your child and spend so
much time and energy with him is likely the cause of this
(temporary) behavior. You are simply not ''novelty'' -- the kind of
stimulus a baby around a year old really craves. Later on, as
your child becomes a toddler, your child will likely cling to YOU
so much that you will wish for an occasional break. When a child
becomes a toddler, the most familiar parent becomes extremely
important.
Karen
First of all, this is a stage and will pass. Probably, your baby
is acts more crazy for dad *because* she sees him less
than you.
Secondly, please, please please, ask yourself: did you have
a baby in order to receive emotional validation from her?
Because that's what I'm hearing: you want validation from
your baby. If you are looking to your child for validation, you
are bound to be disappointed. Our children simply cannot
(and should not) be counted on for that. Does that mean you
shouldn't want your child's appreciaion? No, it is fine to
*want* that. However, if your sense of self-worth is
dependent upon her expressing appreciation for you, you're
setting yourself up for a lot of pain. Validation is something
that we all have to learn (and we ALL have to learn it, it
doesn't seem to just happen automatically!) to do for
ourselves. I think you'll agree, when you think about it, that
this is not something we should put on our children - for one
thing, we cheat OURSELVES when we do! If we rely on
others for our sense of self-worth, there is no way they can
ever give us enough or do enough to make us feel that we
are worthwhile people, because we haven't developed that
core sense of self for ourselves.
So, how to stop feeling jealous of dad? By remaining true to
yourself and who you want to be as a person. When you
KNOW you are behaving in the world as the person you
want to be (some one *you* value and respect), you won't
feel bad when your baby behaves as if she prefers daddy,
because you won't need to look to her to reflect who you are
back to you. You'll already know. You're a good person and a
good mom.
This is the same journey I am on, and I believe we all are.
Best of luck
anonymous
I felt the same when my daughter was that age. It hurts, yes,
it hurts! I stayed home with her until she was 15 months. She
was really into her daddy, as soon as see was able to sit up and
look toward the door when she heard him come in at night. Big
smiles and laughter! And when she began to talk -- mercy! ''No,
Daddy's turn'' when I tried to give her a bath, change her
diaper, etc. She'd run to him for comfort, prefer him to take
her out of her car seat. She began daycare at 15 months and
she'd sort of look up and continue playing when I picked her up
at the end of the day yet ran yelling ''Daddy, Daddy!'' when my
husband would do so.
I was very sad about this. If someone had told me that it was a
stage, and that she would one day run to me yelling ''Mommy,
Mommy'' I would not have believed it. Well, my daughter is now
2.5 and it this has long passed. She still has a thing for
daddy but she and I also have our special relationship. What
helped me get through this time was this: 1) my husband did not
laugh about this when I brought up my feelings. He would
comfort me and pointed me that the she was probably just used to
seeing me all day and therefore Dad was a novelty, someone to
have fun with, etc. and 2) I would literally force myself to
give her extra hugs, kisses, ''I love you's'', during those times
that I was feeling rejected.
So, good luck you, Mom! I've been there I know how you are
feeling. My daughter still prefers Dad to change her diaper and
you know, that can be a good thing! :)
anonymous
My 17 month old daughter goes through periods where her preference for
me, her mother, over her father is quite evident. It is very
uncomfortable to watch. When this happens, we take it as a sign that
daddy needs to spend more time alone with her. He takes her out of the
house to a fun place like the park. I go to the door and wave good-bye
and though she looks sad for a moment, she quickly realizes that she is
going somewhere fun and forgets all about me. It works like magic! Each
time, she has returned with a new, loving appreciation for her daddy.
We've been going through a similar stage with our daughter since 20
months, and now at 25 mos. it is definitely on the wane. Since I (the mother)
work part-time at home and spend many more hours with our daughter than her
father can, she became a bit of a mommy's girl and would be quite unflinching
in her preference for me, often saying very hurtful things to her father (who
adores her). She is also quick to say "I don't like (Babysitter)" when our
sitter arrives three mornings a week to look after her. I always cringe when
I hear her say that- thankfully our sitter doesn't take it personally like my
husband does.
The way we've tried to cope with it is by adding some Father-Daughter
activities to our weekly routine that allow my daughter to have
quality time with her dad and at those times I simply make myself scarce. I
found that when I was around all the time, my husband couldn't successfully
get my daughter's attention. So he started taking her to a Saturday morning
swim class at the Albany Pool and he also took over responsibility for the
nightly bath. This gave me a break (which I needed) and provided some
continuity in my husband's relationship with her. At first, she was leery
and kept wanting Mommy. But now, after bathtime she is completely receptive
to being read to or played with or tucked into bed for the night by her
father and I can be involved or not, depending on what else is going on.
My husband and I realized that, from our daughter's POV, Daddy did not
seem all that dependable as compared to Mommy. My husband works long, often
irregular hours. He travels periodically. Sometimes he leaves home
early before she's awake and sometimes he comes home late and she doesn't
see him at dinnertime or even before going to bed. So my husband had to make a
conscious effort to come home in time to spend the dinner and bath
times with her whenever possible. At this age, children really long for the
security that comes from having everything in its place (from THEIR
perspective). My daughter still asks every day: Where's Daddy? (at work)
Where's (Babysitter)? (she went home) Where's Mommy? (i'm right here).
Routines (in which both parents regularly participate) and lots of
reassurance have helped our daughter. She still has her moments when only
Mommy will do, but now fortunately she can also feel secure with her father.
Good luck !!
The best explanation I found for this is that the child at that age will
favor whomever he/she spends the most time with. So whatever you can do
to increase the time that her father spends with her should help. I still
find that after I have to work a weekend, and therefore my husband has a lot
more contact with them than usual, they are much more likely to go to him for
comfort, etc. It actually gives me a bit of a break during the next
week.
All I have to offer is commiseration: I'm a mom whose first child
favored his dad, especially since I had a caesarean and another surgery during
his first 6 months. I also worked outside the home, whereas his father
worked at home. This caused me great anguish, so I can sympathise with
your husband. To some degree our older son still favors his dad, has to
have his dad with him when he goes to sleep etc. In some situations,
though I've managed to create a bond--he comes to me when he's afraid of
a new situation, and we do homework together now (he's 5) because i'm more
patient (sometimes) than his dad.
Our second son, on the other hand, has always cleaved to me. This made
me feel better, but it also made me realize that it's not really something
I do or don't do, or at least not entirely something I do or don't
do...whether it's personality or circumstances or what I don't know. He
still demands me, even though sometimes he and his dad have more "fun"
(i don't roughhouse with him, for example, now that he's 34 pounds!).
I imagine it is a temporary phase with your daughter...it helps
sometimes us if the less-favored parent spends time alone with the child
in question doing something special--but it could just be a phase you have
to tough out. Good luck!
In regards to Favoring Mom over Dad. My now 3 year old displayed the
same behavior starting about a year ago and it's still happening today.
At first he favored me (mom) over Dad. Dad was really hurt and confused
because our child always loved to see him come home, hug and kiss him,
etc. I tried to comfort Dad and assured him that "I'm the MOM so
so naturally children show favoritism to MOMS" Boy was I wrong. Not
much longer after that, DAD was the favorite parent. At first I was
a little crushed, but then I realized that it's just a part of them
growing up. A part of them making choices of who they want hugs and kisses
from at that particular time. Needless to say our son goes back and forth
with playing favorites. It's almost like a game now. Nothing to worry about
DAD, soon enough you'll be the favorite again. Prepare yourself MOM, that
first moment of rejection tugs at you a bit, but it will happen. Just love
your kids and know that regardless of their little developing attitudes,
they Love you back!
Jan 2009
My beautiful, funny, happy 18 month old daughter has recently
started rejecting me (mommy) and it's breaking my heart.
Unlike with her dad or grandma or older brother (he's 5), she
doesn't run to me when I come in the door, she refuses to hug
me (says ''no!''), pushes me away when I try to hold her, and
only seems to begrudgingly accept my presence when there is no
one else around. If Daddy or Grandma come into the house, she
runs to them (if they're even in another room, she won't stay
with me). My husband says she calls ''momma'' all the way home
from her nannyshare when she is there, yet when she gets home
she wants nothing to do with me. I work from home, so I see
her a lot (the nannyshare is at our house 2 days/week), spend
one weekday alone with her, still nurse her morning and
evening, and feel like I am generally very hands-on, loving and
affectionate. She's never been super cuddly, but I thought we
had a very close bond. What is happening???
very sad momma
Totally normal. My DD did this to a lesser extent at this age. I was terribly
hurt that
she preferred her dad. She would say, ''no mommy. I want Daddy!'' And I would
go
into our room and cry. Then she switched her allegiance one day and was all
about
mommy. Now she is 4 and is equal in her affection. Now my 19 month old son has
always preferred me and I have done nothing different as a parent. Don't
worry. It's
a phase (and I sympathize)
anon
I would come home from work and my daughter would run up to me
but only to nurse then run off to my mom. My mom said that she
would tell her she misses me while I'm at work. But when I got
home, I never got hugs or kisses or any signs of her missing me
at all. But when her dad came home, she would say I love you
loud enough that people at the end of the block should be able to
hear her. And she'd run to him, hug him and kiss him. Then she
got older and at some point she liked me again.
Hang in there, she'll come back.
Welcome to my world. I have to say, reading your post was a
huge validation for me. My son started ''rejecting'' me right
around the time he turned 18 months and I was completely
devastated. I think the worst was when I met his dad (we are no
longer together) at a grocery store and my son ran from me to
his dad, gave hiim a big hug and kiss, and then proclaimed to
everyone who passed that that was his ''daddy.'' I actually
started to cry in the store. I called one of my girlfriends
sobbing wanting to know how come I do all the work (including
breastfeeding) and his dad gets all the credit. She listened
and told me how she went through the same thing with her little
girl (they all live in the same household). She told me how it
was a natural phase children go through and that they do get
over it. I talked to several other women and they shared the
same.
I hope this helps. I know it can be very painful. My son is now
a little over 19 months and it's getting a little better and
I'm not as hurt anymore. I hope this helps you even a little,
if not a lot. Take care.
anon
Our 21 month old daughter has started showing a strong preference for
her mother (me) and is rebuffing her father. She used to run to the door
to greet Papa when he came home, throwing her arms around his leg and
kissing him. Now she barely notices when he comes home. She has
always run to me for comfort, but used to prefer playing with Papa.
It has been a gradual distancing over the last two months or so.
Tonight she repeatedly refused to let him read to her, hug her, play
a game, or look at him. Needless to say, it makes my husband feel
awfu. I think that she is probably just going through a phase. Any advice
for how my husband could go about reconnecting with her or any words of
comfort for him while he waits it out? Thanks.
We've been going through a similar stage with our daughter since 20
months, and now at 25 mos. it is definitely on the wane. Since I (the mother)
work part-time at home and spend many more hours with our daughter than her
father can, she became a bit of a mommy's girl and would be quite unflinching
in her preference for me, often saying very hurtful things to her father (who
adores her). She is also quick to say "I don't like (Babysitter)" when our
sitter arrives three mornings a week to look after her. I always cringe when
I hear her say that- thankfully our sitter doesn't take it personally like my
husband does.
The way we've tried to cope with it is by adding some Father-Daughter
activities to our weekly routine that allow my daughter to have
quality time with her dad and at those times I simply make myself scarce. I
found that when I was around all the time, my husband couldn't successfully
get my daughter's attention. So he started taking her to a Saturday morning
swim class at the Albany Pool and he also took over responsibility for the
nightly bath. This gave me a break (which I needed) and provided some
continuity in my husband's relationship with her. At first, she was leery
and kept wanting Mommy. But now, after bathtime she is completely receptive
to being read to or played with or tucked into bed for the night by her
father and I can be involved or not, depending on what else is going on.
My husband and I realized that, from our daughter's POV, Daddy did not
seem all that dependable as compared to Mommy. My husband works long, often
irregular hours. He travels periodically. Sometimes he leaves home
early before she's awake and sometimes he comes home late and she doesn't
see him at dinnertime or even before going to bed. So my husband had to make a
conscious effort to come home in time to spend the dinner and bath
times with her whenever possible. At this age, children really long for the
security that comes from having everything in its place (from THEIR
perspective). My daughter still asks every day: Where's Daddy? (at work)
Where's (Babysitter)? (she went home) Where's Mommy? (i'm right here).
Routines (in which both parents regularly participate) and lots of
reassurance have helped our daughter. She still has her moments when only
Mommy will do, but now fortunately she can also feel secure with her father.
Good luck !!
The best explanation I found for this is that the child at that age will
favor whomever he/she spends the most time with. So whatever you can do
to increase the time that her father spends with her should help. I still
find that after I have to work a weekend, and therefore my husband has a lot
more contact with them than usual, they are much more likely to go to him for
comfort, etc. It actually gives me a bit of a break during the next
week.
All I have to offer is commiseration: I'm a mom whose first child
favored his dad, especially since I had a caesarean and another surgery during
his first 6 months. I also worked outside the home, whereas his father
worked at home. This caused me great anguish, so I can sympathise with
your husband. To some degree our older son still favors his dad, has to
have his dad with him when he goes to sleep etc. In some situations,
though I've managed to create a bond--he comes to me when he's afraid of
a new situation, and we do homework together now (he's 5) because i'm more
patient (sometimes) than his dad.
Our second son, on the other hand, has always cleaved to me. This made
me feel better, but it also made me realize that it's not really something
I do or don't do, or at least not entirely something I do or don't
do...whether it's personality or circumstances or what I don't know. He
still demands me, even though sometimes he and his dad have more "fun"
(i don't roughhouse with him, for example, now that he's 34 pounds!).
I imagine it is a temporary phase with your daughter...it helps
sometimes us if the less-favored parent spends time alone with the child
in question doing something special--but it could just be a phase you have
to tough out. Good luck!
In regards to Favoring Mom over Dad. My now 3 year old displayed the
same behavior starting about a year ago and it's still happening today.
At first he favored me (mom) over Dad. Dad was really hurt and confused
because our child always loved to see him come home, hug and kiss him,
etc. I tried to comfort Dad and assured him that "I'm the MOM so
so naturally children show favoritism to MOMS" Boy was I wrong. Not
much longer after that, DAD was the favorite parent. At first I was
a little crushed, but then I realized that it's just a part of them
growing up. A part of them making choices of who they want hugs and kisses
from at that particular time. Needless to say our son goes back and forth
with playing favorites. It's almost like a game now. Nothing to worry about
DAD, soon enough you'll be the favorite again. Prepare yourself MOM, that
first moment of rejection tugs at you a bit, but it will happen. Just love
your kids and know that regardless of their little developing attitudes,
they Love you back!
My older son preferred his Dad from the time he was old enough to
express a preference. It hurt like hell. It seemed unnatural; I was the
Mom, and Moms are supposed to be the closer bonded. It seemed personal; I
spent more time with him, and took care of everything to make his life easy
(all the shopping, all the pre-school looking, all the planning). It seemed
endless; it lasted for three years or more. Then along came son number 2.
>From the get-go he was Mommy's boy, though he never pushed Dad away like the
first pushed me away. They are now 8 and 4. And while both are connected
with both parents, and neither plays one parent off another, their
respective personalities mesh most (and are most like) the personalities of
the parent they preferred early on. My older son is a math wizard (like
Dad), a punster (like Dad), and a thinker (like Dad). My younger son is
emotionally connected (like Mom), very warm (like Mom), creative (like Mom),
and irrepressible (like Mom). What's cause, what's effect? Who knows.
Just don't take a toddler's preferences personally, hang on, and everything
will iron out by the time they are four or so.
My 17 month old daughter goes through periods where her preference for
me, her mother, over her father is quite evident. It is very
uncomfortable to watch. When this happens, we take it as a sign that
daddy needs to spend more time alone with her. He takes her out of the
house to a fun place like the park. I go to the door and wave good-bye
and though she looks sad for a moment, she quickly realizes that she is
going somewhere fun and forgets all about me. It works like magic! Each
time, she has returned with a new, loving appreciation for her daddy.
Two Year Olds
Dec 2011
My son who is 28 months has been on a Daddy-rejecting bender. My
husband is totally sweet and loving with him but is at the end of his
rope. Yesterday he'd had a hard day and as he came in the door the
first words out of my son's mouth were, ''Go away! Go back to work,
Daddy!'' My son and husband used to have a special bond. But now as
Mommy I am the preferred for everything. I have no idea what to do or
say to either of them. I'd like advice only from folks who have
experienced this themselves and have something positive to say about
being on the other side of it. Thanks!
-Caught in the Middle
It's been a long time since this has happened in our house -- my son that went
through this phase is now almost 11 and often doesn't want to be around either
of us, but that's another story. I seem to recall giving him a heads up that
Daddy was on his way helped a lot. I'd heard or read that transitioning from the
attention of one parent to two can be over-stimulating if they're not aware it's
about to happen. I'd have my husband give us a call when he was almost home
and then I'd let my son know he was coming. And, I'd move onto very busy
tasks (like dinner!) and let them have some alone time to play, chat, bond, etc.
I was no fun and Daddy was all fun and availability. I remember it working.
Can't hurt, might help.
The same thing happened to me. What we did was determine
certain activities that only I would do. Now I give my son
his bath and read him stories every night before bed. At
first he whined for my husband (the primary caregiver) but
my husband was very firm that I did the bath and story time
and he just comes up for hugs when we were done. The key is
not giving in even if it's tough the first few times.
Now my son doesn't want anyone else to do his bath but me.
We're much closer and seem to have gotten over this hurdle.
It's horrible to come home from a long day at work to a kid
who doesn't want to see you. Now those days are few and far
between.
Been there, hated it
I am in just the same spot as you: my son is 27 months old
(mid-July birthday), and his dad is super kind and playful
with him. My husband had two solid weeks of hard work where
he barely saw our kids, and now, as if overnight, my son
won't have anything to do with him. He's developed extreme
separation anxiety from me as well, and will freak out when
I so much as leave the room to use the bathroom. It's hard
on both parents: my husband wants more time with our son,
and I'd like an occasional break from doing every little
thing for him.
All I can say is I remember when my daughter (now six) went
through this also, and it does pass. I remind my husband
now, who like yours is dismayed by all this, that the time
came when the tables turned and my daughter wanted dad, dad,
dad all the time. I'm trying to make him feel secure and
enjoy that it's my lap he wants, as that will change soon
enough. Hang in there!
In the same boat
Dec 2008
I've been feeling hurt by my son's preference for his father over
me. Since he was 12 months old, he's asked for his dad whenever
he's hurt, scared, or wakes up in the middle of the night. If he
has a tantrum, he rejects me (runs away and says, ''No mama!'') and
clings to his dad. He will come to me if dad's not around, though.
My husband and I both work from home, but I take greater
responsibility for the kids if the nanny needs help. On the
whole, though, we share parenting equally and have similar
parenting styles.
What can I do to foster a better relationship with my son? We
have regular outings, just the two of us. We have a solid
relationship... until he gets upset, then he looks for his dad.
I'm sad because this has been going on for two years now and I'm
hurt every time it happens.
Mother of Daddy's Boy
Hi. I've had your experience too with my sons and I have felt
the same way too but you know, it's all in how you look at it.
I think it's wonderful that your son feels so safe with his
dad. If you stop applying the pressure or feeling jealous and
insecure, before you know it, he'll be seeking you. Just give
him space and you'll see. Good luck and enjoy the bond.
anon
I reviewed the responses to earlier posts like this, and saw
one I had written way back when my boys were 8 and 4. (The
gist: Yes, it hurts like hell. Don't take it personally. It
will pass.) Now they are 17 and 14. And, I am pleased to say,
the 17-year-old, once the Daddy's boy, now hates us
equally. :) As my (very wise) grandmother used to say re all
kid behavior, when you think you can't stand it any more, it
changes.
Hold On and Keep Smiling
Jan 2007
Hi,
Not sure if this is common or not, but my 2 year old daughter
refuses to have anything to do with me at night. She yells ''no
dad, no dad'' and only wants her mom. Sometimes this is because
she is tired and wants to nurse and wants the comfort of mom.
There are times during the day where she will refuse to come to
me, sometimes ignores me and sometimes even goes to play with
other dads in a playgroup.
Luckily, this only happens 30% of the time, and when she is not
acting this way we play together, she hugs and kisses me, wants
to read and play with me.
It is very hurtful when she doesnt want me and even more
hurtful when she goes to other dads in the group. Anyone have
adivce or been through this?
Thanks
My 2.5 year-old son is the exact same way, although I'm the mom
so he only wants me and not daddy. he's mean too, yelling
things like ''no, not you daddy!''. I feel so bad for my husband,
but after we read ''Your two year old: Terrible or Tender'' (by
Louise Bates Ames, http://tinyurl.com/2jxbyf), we relaxed as
this is apparently normal. Twos often want the ''unavailable'
parent. I often want time to myself to clean or cook dinner or
to just have a break at night. I think this makes me
mentally 'unavailable' and my son senses this so he only wants
me. One thing that helps: specific time with Dad only. I go
out or my husband takes our son out during the weekend (to a
park, museum, etc.). The more time they spend together alone,
the more my son wants to hang out with him, although he still
reverts back to wanting mommy only. My only advice: this is a
phase, she will grow out of it, and please try not to take it
personally (easier said than done, I know!). Sometimes now he
wants daddy only and is mean to me, and I am relieved as I want
a break! (And dad is very happy.)
This too shall pass
This helped us: the ''favored'' parent would say something along
the lines of, ''You're being disrespectful to my sweetheart. In
our family we treat each other kindly. You need to be polite to
dad.'' Took a while, but in the end seemed to help. Occasionally
(now at 3yo) our daughter will test, such as saying, ''I don't
want daddy to read stories, I want mommy'' when it's daddy's turn
to read stories. We reply that it's fine, she doesn't need to
have any stories! She always changes her tune after that.
Heather
July 2004
I have a happy 23 month old daughter and have recently been lucky enough
to leave
my career to be at home with her full time for awhile. we spend lots of
quality time
together, going to parks, the zoo, music classes, etc. She and I have a
good
relationship and I make lots of effort to connect with her and show her
how much I
care for her. A couple of months ago, she began to develop a great
attachment to
her father. She’s always been fond of him - but suddenly she only wants
to play
with him when he’s home, only wants him to read her books, etc - often
pushing
me away. When the three of us are together, she has stopped giving me
hugs and
kisses in favor of cuddling and hugging her dad, and only says hello to
him in the
mornings, even when I’m the one to get up early to greet her. I feel
slightly silly
writing this because I know it must sound like I have nothing major to
complain
about - but it is painful to feel excluded by your child and I just
wonder if anyone
out there has experienced a similar situation, in which their child
seemed to favor
one parent over the other quite suddenly, with no appparant trigger (I am
not aware
of anything I did to push her away emotionally.) My husband is equally
surprised by
her sudden extreme affection toward him - and though charmed by it, he is
empathetic and tries to make sure she includes me too, to which she
usually refuses
with a “no mama!” Strangely enough, if she and I have a particularly
playful and
happy time together during the day, she will call me “daddy.” I wonder
if this is a
normal developmental stage she is going through, or if there is something
specific I
should do to try to reconnect with her?
- mother of a daddy’s girl
A wise 9 year old boy was telling my fortune when my daughter
was a baby. What he said, ''Sometimes your daughter will love
her daddy more, and sometimes she'll love her mommy more, until
she's a teenager and doesn't like either of you.'' It was very
comforting, and true!
anon
This is a really really typical reaction of a 2 year old with a
new baby. In fact, I find that reactions to new babies tend to
peak at about 2-4 months after the new baby arrives. It sounds
to me like she has recognized that she can get a reaction out
of you and its a control/manipulation thing. Children can be
very perceptive about this stuff, they will always find the one
thing that really gets to you and then work it, esp if you are
spending a lot of time with the new baby. If I we! re you, I
would really really try to act like I don't care. And have
your husband ignore it too. Not even a sad look, just go about
your business like she didn't reject you (I know, its hard).
Give it a couple of weeks and see if she stops once she is not
getting a reaction. In the mean time, give her extra alone time
if you can. Don't worry, she is doing this because she loves
you, not the opposite.
But beware, if you get rid of this behavior/reaction to the new
baby, you may have another even more difficult one lurking just
around the corner.
good luck
Nov 2003
I have an almost 2 year old son and ever since he was able to
express feelings / preferences he has clearly preferred my
husband. When I'm the only one around or pick him up from
daycare by myself he is running up to me and hugging me, but as
soon as my husband is around, he doesn't want anything or much
to do with me. Sometimes he even pushes me away when I come too
close to him and his dad. This is really starting to weigh down
on me and I feel more often than not very sad and am crying a
lot over this. My husband is understanding to a certain point,
but he thinks I'm taking it too seriously since our son is just
a little kid. He also thinks that I'm holding him responsible
and show it in my attitude towards him. I don't think I'm
holding him responsible, but I do have to admit that I'm envious
of him being the prefered one and that probably shows.
I know that everyone says little kids can only concentrate on
one person at a time and that the preference is supposed to
switch back and forth between mom and dad (then again, aren't
little boys supposed to be more attached to their moms?) Since
this has been going on for about a year now, I can't imagine
that it will ever change or turn my way.
I also have to say that my husband was always very involved with
our son and (except for breastfeeding) did at least as much as I
did in respect to all the chores like getting up at night,
feeding, cleaning etc. He is also a very happy and fun person
and is great with our son when they play or goofe around ... I'm
thinking that this might be part of the problem since I just
can't live up to the fun interaction he has with our son. I'm
trying hard, but I am who I am and can't really change my
personality.
I just wanted to see if anyone is or was in a similar situation
and what they did to deal with it or overcome/change it.
This is starting to affect my life and my relationship/feelings
towards my husband and son who are both wonderful people.
a sad mom
I didn't know if whether to laugh or cry when I read your
posting. I'm going through the exact same thing with my 2 year
old son. Although I don't have advice to give I thought you
might find comfort in knowing you are not alone. It is
constantly on my mind and I'm getting increasingly depressed
about it. You are right - everyone says it's normal and it will
change but sometimes I feel like it's hopeless. I just want to
be myself and be a great mother without constantly trying
to ''win over'' my son. I look forward to reading the responses
to your comment. Good luck!!
anon
Your post could have been written by me. For more than a year (I
didn't really keep track, maybe 18 months), my son always favored
his dad. If it was just the two of us, he'd love to see me and
have fun with me usually, although there were also many demands
(and sometimes crying jags) for his dad if he wasn't there. In
fact, often if his dad was there, he would push me away and
shout, ''no, mama!Mama go away.'' This was worse because often my
husband and I would share childcare enough that my kiddo worried
if I came into the room, that meant his dad was leaving. My
husband was also very involved in childcare, but also less there
than I was (working more hours) so more highly prized. Also he
tended to be more ''fun'', concentrating solely on him, whereas I
tended to multitask and try to do laundry, phone calls, dishes,
cooking also. Also my husband tended to be easy with discipline
whereas I enforced cleanup, leaving when I said we would, etc. I
also felt sad about it. It helped to have some special time
where I just concentrated on being with him, reading, playing,
drawing, singing. And I think it made a difference to work a bit
more. It also really helped to sometimes not listen to him say
go away but really stay and be the 3 of us together having fun as
much as possible. Or at least be in the room (reading or
whatever). But some of it I think was just time. He's 2 yrs 8
months now and he's JUST begun to equalize his preferences and to
also ask for me and really seem to enjoy my company just as much.
Good luck and know you aren't alone.
been there
I'm sorry that you're so sad about this. I know it can feel
hurtful, but please believe that it's a phase, and that it
doesn't mean that your son doesn't love you with all his heart.
The thing is, you're the one he feels so comfortable and bonded
with that he takes you for granted in his own toddler way. It
will most likely go away in time; on the other hand, he will
probably always have a special kind of bond with his dad that he
doesn't have with you (and vice-versa). This happens only
occasionally with me, and what I do is let him have his daddy
time, and I go read a magazine, or do something by myself. Try
to make his rejection of you into something good for you--focus
on what good can come of it for you, and not on the idea that he
doesn't want you or love you (because he really, really does).
And, as with other things toddlers do, if you try not to make it
seem like a big deal to you, he may stop sooner. Take care.
You're a great mom.
been there
Hello, I was in your boat! My son is now almost five and about
six months ago he started to see me as someone he could love. I
hope your son comes around.
anon
We have this problem in my home too. Occassionally I will get a
little green with envy, but mostly I just let them have their
fun. What seems to irk me the most is that Im busy sorting
laundry, vacuuming, cooking, packing the diaper bag for daycare,
etc. and stop for a minute to listen to my son's hysterical
giggles. Hey!!!! If I wasn't doing all this stuff I could be
giggling too. My advice is to just let it go. If you find some
quality alone time with your son, he will show you the affection
you crave. Im lucky because my partner works odd hours and I do
get a lot of alone time with my son and we do get to play and
cuddle, plus my boy still nurses (Daddy aint got nothin on the
breastmilk). So enjoy the times you are alone with your son
more. Maybe you and your husband can make a deal where he loads
the dishwasher or something while you get your boy into his bath
and jammied and ready for bed. That definitely works in my house.
Lori
I'm in a similar situation, in some ways. My husband is the
SAHD/primary caregiver and so it's natural for our 15 month old
son to prefer him since he's with him more often. I do feel
envious at times and hurt when Ben needs to be comforted and
only wants Da-Dee. It was especially difficult when I came home
from work one day and met them at our neighborhood park. My
husband had an errand to run and so left us there and Ben was
very upset, pushing me away and crying for Da-Dee for 5 minutes
straight.
But...I have to understand that this relationship is what's
important to Ben and so I step aside when I have to and never
force him if there's no need. Our situation differs in that Ben
will switch over to me if I spend the day with him. Maybe my
husband takes a weekend day for himself or Ben and I go for a
day ourselves. If I spend the better part of the weekend that
switch is stronger. Also, his preference does seem to be the
strongest on Friday (after a long workweek) and weakest at the
end of the weekend (after spending a lot of time with me).
I know our situations may differ in some significant ways but
for me the solutions were part attitude and part logistics. 1)
spend as much time with him as possible, 2)keep my needs
separate from the needs of my child (my feeling left out vs his
need to bond with his daddy), 3)keep in mind that I will be his
mommy forever and there is plenty of time for me to find my
special place with him, 4)when he is showing a strong preference
I participate in the activity with him and daddy, and become as
involved as Ben will let me, 5)always look for the windows when
he^Rll let me take the primary role and step in, 6)when I'm
comforting him and he calls for daddy I try some gentle
distraction (like walking out on the porch) to see if he'll calm
with me. If not, I call in the daddy, 7)keep in mind that it is
true to an extent that young children often bond with one
caregiver, who is preferred over all others (usually it^Rs the
mommy and so it feels odd to us when its not), 8) this has
NOTHING to do with my love for my son or my abilities as a
mother, 9)sometimes I try to see the blessing in disguise ^V if
he wants to play with daddy then I get a free minute or two to
eat my lunch in peace or do a personal chore. And at night it
means I get to sleep while my husband often has to get up and
comfort him, and 10) if I was to be honest with myself, wasn^Rt
there one of my parents who I preferred over the other (and for
me it has switched over time as my maturity level and needs
changed and it has switched with the situation at hand).
I hope something in my experience helps you. Hang in there and
know that you are the Mommy, and that^Rs something that your
husband will never be.
part time caregiver, full time mommy
oh, I can empathize with you. I could have easily written your post. My son
preferred (and still prefers to some degree) his dad. Like you we shared
parenting pretty equally and his dad is a really fun guy that kids LOVE. I shed
tears over it! Things that helped at the time were spending time alone with my
son doing fun things. Then I could see that he really did love me. Over time
the strength of the preference faded and my son would even ask for me in the
middle of the night instead of daddy, however it never switched back and forth
equally like the books said it would.
Now my son is seven if asked he probably would say he still prefers dad but we
have a tight bond too...I still try to find time to do special things alone
together. It can be hard because my son's interests are really different
from mine but I just try to keep showing up.
Our second child appears to prefer me so far....is this because parenting is
less equally shared this time around or because daddy is not quite as doting
since big brother needs attention too or some other reason? I don't know but I
can't deny that it is a big relief!
I think you just have to weather through it and try to nurture your
relationships
with son and daddy as best you can. Be kind to yourself, you are a great mom.
Sometimes I comforted myself by saying '' I am a great mom it's just that he is
a SUPER great dad''.
been there
Our daughter also has gone through phases of favoritism of
one parent over another. It can be emotionally hard.
However, if you can remember that your son really does love
you and be confident in your parenting, then you can enjoy
the break you can get while he is playing with daddy. Kids
get different things from different parents, and no matter
what, you are the mommy and he needs the ''mommy''
things he gets from you. You don't have to worry that you're
not as fun as daddy. I know my daughter loves me and has
fun with me, so when she says ''Go away mommy! I just
want to play with Daddy.'' I say, ''Fine, I'll just go relax and
read a book!''
Frances
Oct 2002
In the past few month, my son has become very attached to my
husband. He's very vocal about preferring that my husband do
everything from putting him to bed, giving him a bath, getting
him dressed, etc. I'm trying to look at this as a break for me,
and not feel rejected by it, but in truth my feelings are sort
of hurt. My husband and I split our workdays so we both have
large amounts of time with our son during the week. Is this a
common occurence? How long does it last? Should I just ride it
out? What's it all about anyway?
anonymous
Our son prefered me (Dad) starting when he was a few months
old. When he was about four months old, she took him to work,
and I went along. She was trying to show him off to her
workmates, but every time she would hold him, he would cry and
reach out for me. Absolutely painful. He is now four and the
preference continues. This has been extremely hard on my wife,
lots of tears etc, as one might well imagine. But the impact on
my wife is lessening, partly because my son is now simply
prefering me, and not actively rejecting her.
Things that have helped are 1) Being very demonstative in my
affection for my wife. He sees this and wants to get in on the
hugs and cuddles with his mom. 2) Reminding my wife that this
is NOT due to something she has or has not done, because it
began when he was just a few months old, before he could reason
about such things. It is simply an innate preference, like his
preference for eating only white and orange things. 3) When
mommy is gone, we occasionally talk about why we like her, why
we are so happy she is the mommy etc.
The intensity of the preference has lessened over the years.
But it is very trying, for both parents. Best wishes.
Steve
2001
While there is a wonderful write up on the issue of a child having a
strong preference for one parent (see below) I would like to get more input into this.
My two year old frequently cries when my wife holds him and holds out
his arms to me. He will often say to her "way" which means "away"
which means "Get Away!" After a hard day at work, she comes home and
will often get rather hostile treatment. He can reduce her to tears
very easily. It is awkward for me, and horrible for my wife. He has
had a preference for daddy since a baby, perhaps because I have been
more of the care giver.
I have tried telling him he hurts mom's feelings, and ignoring him
(easier for me to do than my wife). This behavior is getting worse,
not better. Any thoughts?
Please don't tell your son that his crying is hurting Mom's feelings!
He has strong feelings, and being made to feel bad about his feelings
is not good. That's guilt, and it's too much for a 2 yo to handle. The
same goes for ignoring him. Despite their amazingly grown up talents,
a two yo is still emotionally very immature.
I had good luck with my daughter when she was 2 with discussing her
feelings. This seemed to work especially well with tantrums. We would
talk about her anger and frustration. I would say things like "You're
very angry, aren't you?" - well, you know the routine - the whole
"active listening" thing. Those feelings are very personal, and the
kid seems to feel a strong proprietary attachment to them. Denying or
condemning the feelings can be quite injurious, I would think. The
trick is to distinguish between thoughts or feelings on the one hand,
and behavior on the other. He's free to think and feel what he likes,
as long as he behaves properly. (I only learned that lesson when I was
38!)
Saying "way" doesn't sound like a very serious offense in itself -
except for the fact that it's very hurtful to Mom. And asking him not
to use that wonderful power-word is taking away a piece of his control
over his environment. He does need his own space, after all, and he
needs to be able to tell people to back off. Control is a big 2 yo
thing too - and maybe that's it: Maybe he gets a kick out of watching
everyone react with extreme emotion when he just utters a single
syllable!
Or maybe your son is reacting to Mom (a) being away, and (b) being
dog-tired when he gets to see her. (I think Penelope Leach has
something to say on this topic.) He's feeling rejected in some way. In
that case, the only remedy in my opinion is for Mom to make some
accommodations so that she can devote more time (preferably when she's
fresh) to your son.
Easier said than done, I know. And, given the fact that Mom is so
deeply affected by these incidents, I'm sure she feels a tremendous
level of guilt about it all too.
Is your son in some sort of daycare situation? If so, make sure that
everything is OK there. Is going to daycare contributing to his sense
of rejection?
After following the Oedipal Victor discussion, I am rather sensitive
to the issue of our duty as parents and partners to make sure that our
mariage/partner relationship is healthy. You sound like a caring
person, so this is probably something you have considered.
Two is a difficult age - like adolescence without the hormones. Be
gentle with yourselves.
I have some good perspective from your sons point of view. My father
was my stay at home care provider while my mother worked and I
remember vividly her getting off the train and bursting into tears
upon seeing her every night. I can't imagine how painfull this was for
her. I really resented my mom for interupting the one-on-one
realtionship I had with my father since his attention was immediately
focused on her (I felt). From a childs perspective, I think I would
have been happier to see my mom if they both focused on me when she
came home. Instead they talked together and I did not feel like part
of the conversation. I am only speaking from my situation but I know
my father sort of abandoned me when my mom came home since he turned
into someone else (an adult!). I became very protective of my father
and was very resentfull of my mother for a very long time. Maybe this
perspective can help you in your situation. Good luck!
Hadley
My son preferred his dad over me, his mom, mightily at that age and it
did hurt. Over time the preference has become less pronounced (he's
four now) and he asks for me at times rather than Daddy. I think
things that helped me get through it were having time alone with him
(which we did just due to our schedules), and having time alone with
my husband so I didn't feel like the odd one out (harder to
manage). Also having my husband be affectionate to me in front of our
son helped. It's great that you are supportive and thinking about
solutions, that alone probably helps your wife feel better. The
transition at the end of the day can be tough. maybe talking about
what you're going to do when Mommy gets home would help prepare him
"When Mommy gets home we'll say "Hi, How was your day? and give her a
big Hug". I hope the preference for Daddy means our sons have great
bonds with their fathers and will be wonderful fathers and husbands
themselves someday.
We have the same age son, and the reverse (and probably more typical)
situation. My son pushes his Dad away hits him, screams "NOOOOOO", and
all sorts of things. He gives me special snuggles and hugs, which he has
only a few times given his Dad. When he wakes at night and Dad tries to
comfort him, he goes into a really splendid tantrum. So of course, I do
the night comforting, he rarely gets his Dad, and that makes it worse.
My husband feels bad enough in the privacy of our own home, but this has
been made worse by the fact that my son really loves my own Dad who lives
in the area. When they are together, my husband feel sad that his son
will have nothing to do with him, except to push him away in front of my
Dad. While I really don't know what to do about this, and I hope it is a
passing stage, I got a good suggestion from this advice line a while ago.
When it gets bad, it's time for my son and husband to spend more time
together. For us, this is usually most of a whole weekend day. On other
days, we have noticed that if I am with my son from the time he wakes up,
it seems especially hard for him to part with me. So, my husband
frequently plays with him first thing on the weekends (we both work full
time), and they do something special, like dig up worms in the yard.
This really helps, at least for the remander of the day. I hope you get
an answer from a more experienced parent, because on weekday evenings,
it's just mommy, mommy, mommy- NOOOO DADDY.
Oct 2010
Hi,
I need advice with my sweet 2.5-year daughter (only child so
far) and my equally sweet middle-aged husband. Our daughter
reject her daddy most of the time. She doesn't want to
cuddle with him when in our bed, doesn't want to kiss him or
be kissed by him at any time, no voluntary hugs, or diaper
changes, or feeding, or reading books. The most frequent
phrases he hears from her are ''Daddy go away'', ''No daddy'',
''I don't like daddy'', ''don't touch me'', ''don't talk''. She
would also occasionally hit him.
This situation drives both of us (parents) absolutely nuts.
Me because I have to do everything and have to deal with
tantrums on both ends, my husband - because he dotes on our
naughty toddler and wants her love and attention. He is a
very touchy-feely dude and doesn't want to give up on trying
to get some hugs from the mean girl. As the result, both of
them get very frustrated and upset. He even suggested that
we start punishing her (giving her time out) every time she
is mean to him, and not just when she slaps him in the face
but also when she refused to kiss him good-night or says ''go
away''.
She will play with him when she's in a good mood. They would
have lots of fun playing hide-and-seek or trains or watching
a cartoon. She's scream ''I want daddy'' when he goes away
with his buddies to grab a beer. So I don't think she
genuinely dislikes him, but rather messes with him and tries
to manipulate his feelings. All of our friends, mostly
parents of girls, tell us that this is a phase and will go
away soon, but my husband doesn't have the patience to wait.
He wants to start disciplining her for being mean to him,
and I really don't think this is a good idea.
Are there any good, fast-working strategies to handle this
situation? Any books on the issue? We do read toddler books
about daddies, but I was wondering if there is an authority
on father-daughter relationships my husband and I can seek
advice from.
Help!
stuck between a meanie and a touchy-feelie
Please stand your ground. If you start punishing her you will only prolong this
phase and make her resentful of her father. She probably already understands
that this upsets him, so a better strategy is for him to not react at all when
rejected, and not to push for hugs or attention when she doesn't want
to give it.
Hey, I am an adult and I really don't like it when people demand hugs
or kisses -
I give them when I feel like it. As an aside, you said that he is
touchy-feely and
that you have to deal with tantrums from him too. How does he interact with
you? I know that my 3 year old daughter really dislikes it when my husband
gripes or is unpleasant to me (even when right before and after he is pleasant
and kind to her) and she will get protective of me and tell me she doesn't want
her father.
Anon
I also think that kind of discipline would backfire. I think your husband
should step down the hugging/cuddling thing for a while. Pushing it is not
respecting her space. Children this age should be able to say when they do
not want physical affection. They need to feel their body is their own. Love
doesn't always have to be expressed physically, and maybe now is just a
phase where he should express his love for her with more physical space. It's
not forever; the phase will pass.
That said, kids should not be able to decide who changes their diaper every
time and that kind of thing. If it's Daddy's turn, it's Daddy's turn.
Otherwise,
the preferred parent ends up feeling like a slave and nothing ever changes.
We had to tell our kids many times, ''No, it's Daddy this time,'' and usually
they eased up after a while. To me, this falls in the health, hygiene, and
safety category where kids must sometimes be forced to do what has to be
done, whether they like it or not.
Maybe he could also start doing more fun things alone with her, and without
the forced hugging and what not. He could take her to the zoo, out for ice
cream, that kind of thing, to build more positive associations with Daddy
time.
anon
I'm really sorry to hear this, but I can truly relate to
your problem! My husband works 60 hr workweeks, so being
away from us is something that we all have to sacrifice.
What we noticed was our daughter, like yours, was very
resentful for my husband being away so much or my husband
not spending enough quality time that she so lacked - so
for her, it was her only way to make him feel badly for not
being around. Children don't know how to express
themselves, so the way my daughter showed him that she was
hurt emotionally for his absence I'm assuming, was by
attacking him emotionally & physically. It worked!
Although, my husband is a very affectionate, loving, and
patient man but he too, was feeling like he needed to
punish her. So we tried doing something else & when he got
home early enough before she went to bed - he would help
prep her for bedtime, brush her teeth, read her bedtime
stories, etc...just so that she would spend some QUALITY
TIME with him! And that's whats so KEY!!! Also, on his days
off, I would let them go out together by themselves & join
them later - just so that they would have that
father/daughter time. It also gave me a break which I
needed! So give it time & patience, I'm sure she will turn
around. It is a phase & kids don't come with instructions,
so if your husband just tries to do what he can when he
can - I know she will turn around & be more loving. A
parent should always take the high road & not let the child
get you down or run the show. Good luck!
-Be strong, patient, and kind
May 2007
My 2 1/2 year old son is obsessed with Dad. I don't think any of this is
unusual; however, after a while, I start becoming affected by it. He's
constantly asking for daddy, telling me how much he misses him (while
he's taking a shower), etc. His father is VERY present in his life, so
he's not reacting to a lack of interaction.
Does anyone have any advice for how to swing the pendulum the other way
a bit? I know it's very immature, but my son starts to hurt my feelings
after I hear about daddy for the millionth time. I'm afraid I'm going to
start developing resentment toward both of them (again, not rational or
mature) and the begging and pleading will be just become exacerbated.
I'd appreciate any advice, feedback, etc. I know that just about
everything is a phase; this one has just gone on for a bit too long and
I'm getting resentful.
Thanks for anything.
Anon
Yeah it is a little silly, but I think its pretty typical for the
non-''desired-at-the-
moment'' parent to feel a bit rejected. What we do when this happens
(and mainly
because the desired parent needs a break!) is that the other parent just
kinda
nonchalantly takes the kid out - to the park, the zoo, outside, whatever
- and
spends some one-on-one time together. There may be initial balking, even
crying,
but I mean, he's 2. (Like our son is 2 also). They do these things. At
least for us,
when we just ignore or make light of the emotional tantrum and head out
together
anyway, we have a great time together and the desired parent is barely a
blip on the
memory.
jenny
I completely sympathize. My 2 1/2 yr old daughter goes back and
forth, but when she's into Daddy, she's REALLY into Daddy. I
spend the most time with her, and it definitely hurts my
feelings when she's in her NO MOMMY phase. What worked for us
was not me spending more time with her, since I'm already with
her every afternoon, but I really worked on it being quality
time. I tried to be more fun and engaging, I tried to come up
with activities that we could do together that she would like.
I tried to focus on her instead of the laundry and the dishes.
It has definitely helped. She goes back and forth still since
she's trying to figure out what each parent is good for. What
we are really working on now is getting her to understand that
while it's ok for her to want Mommy or Daddy for something, she
can't express it in such a mean way. We think she's old enough
to understand that she can't yell and scream NO MOMMY or NO
DADDY and push the other one away. Teaching tact to a 2 year
old is impossible, but we thought we'd try. Good luck to you. I
know exactly where you are coming from.
You know this is a phase, but it is still hard when you are going
through it. My 2 yo son adores his father, who watches him
half-time, and sleeps with him. when he is gone he asks for him,
pleading, sometimes for a long time. I just keep telling him
where daddy is and then when I get sick of it I distract him.
that works well.
I had resigned myself to it, then recently he started to favor me
when we were both in the room and has been asking for me more. I
have started to feel more secure as a result of this shift. He
does seem to go back and forth about it. so, my advice is to
distract him and change the subject when he asks for daddy, and
to be patient; you are his mommy and you'll get the sugar soon!
Aug 2003
Hello, I have a 2.5 year old boy who has developed what seems like
a total infatuation with me, the Mommy. My daughter was very
hooked into me at the same age and it was absolutely fine (I do
attachment parenting, so this seemed within the bounds of our
close bond). My son's passion, however, is much more intense. It's
hard to explain but it's partly physical (he's just all over me
all the time) and partly emotional (refuses to let my husband hold
him, read to him, serve him food, anything!). I am still
breastfeeding my son a tiny bit (a couple times of week) and one
friend told me that it's the breastfeeding that's fueling his
intense Mommy focus. I'm not so sure I believe that and I wouldn't
''cold turkey'' wean him even if I did believe it--we are gradually
weaning and something sudden would be quite a betrayal, I think.
My real question is what is the most healthy way to deal with my
son's passion--my instinct is to absorb his ardor (i.e., not push
him away) and mirror his feelings so he feels like it's ok to love
someone passionately. But I don't want to create an over-Mommified
boy (or is that just dominant culture stuff that's seeped into my
addled brain?) Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated--I
do believe in raising sons who are sensitive, loving, receptive,
etc. but I am also aware of the dangers of mothers who don't have
good ego boundaries (having been raised by one myself, alas).
Anon
This sounds completely normal to me. My 3-y-o son is still
very mommy-centric. It is both wonderful to be the center of
such adoration; complicated, because I, too, worry about
boundaries; and draining, because I seem to be the only
one who can perform certain tasks. But at the age of 2-3,
and with your own awareness of the need for boundaries,
perhaps you can just go with it. Your son is very
affectionate, and that's great. Plus, every mom of older kids
I've spoken to says it changes, and changes quickly.
Still, you have to weather this stage. When my son was
about 2-1/2, my husband and I started to consciously add
activities and projects that were just for them. They'd go on
outings, or have an afternoon together at home, and my
husband started taking certain day-to-day tasks (like bath
time). It gave me a break and gave them time to bond.
There were tears at first, but we all stuck to it and now there
is a lot more room for everyone.
another mom
My 2 year old son is the same way: his favorite line is ''I need my
mommy,'' he's fascinated with my breasts and my bra (we haven't nursed
since he was 12 months old, and he's now 27 months, so breastfeeding
clearly isn't the origin of the behavior) and will often stick his hand in my
shirt when we're out in public. Just this morning he threw a pretty big fit
when Daddy was going to put his socks and shoes on (''MOMMY do
it!!!''). I think this is just pretty normal little boy behavior.
I downplay the hand in my shirt thing -- it seems so absent-minded on
his part that I let it be when we're at home, and gently remove it when
we're in public. If he asks about my breasts or bra, I matter-of-factly
explain their function (breasts are to feed babies, bras are underwear for
breasts).
I give him my love and attention when I can: lots of play, lots of hugs
and kisses, but I do let him know when ''my hands are busy and you'll
need to wait,'' so I don't feel overwhelmed.
And whoever has started with the diaper change/dressing/reading a
book continues, regardless of whether he decides to scream for the
other parent, because I want him to learn (a) to interact effectlvely with
both of us and (b) that he doesn't get to change things by yelling and
screaming. If he asks nicely for me, I will do it if I can.
Karen
Your instincts (accept and reciprocate his affection) are
sound. My 4 year was the same way at your son's age, and I only
nursed for 3 mos., so that has NOTHING to do with it. Dealing
with the overriding preference that mommy do everything required
patience and some scheming - I didn't want to be the only parent
who could feed, put on socks, wipe the butt, etc. (My sister
happily adopted this role with her kids and I think it made her
crazy, frankly.) For example, when he demanded that mommy put
the socks on, I'd say, I'm going to put on the right sock and
daddy will put on the left one. Sometimes, when he wasn't
overtired or otherwise ''fragile'' I'd just insist that daddy do
it. Now that he's 4, he accepts daddy much more readily,
although daddy is almost never the first choice. He goes
willingly with him on errands etc. and doesn't have a fit about
going without me, or (much worse) tell daddy he can't come with
us when we're going to the grocery store. As he gets older, the
higher fun quotient that daddy offers, compared to the loving
but lower-key mommy, seem more appealing, I think. I don't
think you need to worry about overpowering your son for a number
of years yet. And believe me, your daughter, when she hits her
teenage years, will challenge you in this area first!!!
Fran
p.s. to my post a minute ago -
I read somewhere that you should reciprocate all physical
affection, and use verbal messages when you need or want space.
In other words, hug back and say Mommy's busy right now, daddy
needs to put your socks on, or whatever.
Dec 2003
Over the last few months, our 2.5 year old boy has increasingly
adopted a strongly antagonistic stance toward his mother,
though only when both parents are present. Since he was about
1.5 years, he has expressed a certain preference for his
father. This preference, however, is now accompanied by a
vocal rejection of his mother, constantingly asking her to
leave the room, to not do anything for him (feeding, changing
diapers, playing, etc.)but rather have his father do it,
sometmes telling her he doesn't like her. If the two of us are
present, he does everything he can to be alone with the father
and push his mother off into another room. When he and his
mother are alone, on the other hand, they get along fine
together. It has reached the point where we can not do
anything together as a family. We expect that some of this
must be due to the fact that we have done a number of moves
over the last 6 months, uprooting him from his once stable
world. Indeed, he does seem generally unsettled and easily
irritated since we moved to Berkeley a couple weeks ago, though
his antagonism toward his mother began well before this move,
back when, otherwise, he seemed calm and happy. We are at a
loss to know how to respond to him best, how to help him feel
comfortable, nurtured, and joyful with both of us together. If
you have had any similar experience, would we appreciate your
suggestions on how best to deal with it. Thanks.
Two year olds (anywhere from 1.5-3.5 years this can occur) are
in the process of pulling away from Mommy and working to be more
independent. Some of this behavior of identifying so strongly
with the father is normal.
That said I think a very important aspect of what you are asking
is the relative power situation you describe. Your description
tells me that your son has way too much power in this
situation. Children desperately need parents to be in charge of
the family. It seems to me that you need to be asking your son
to fit into your rules more (and that they be clear) rather than
working so hard to fit into his.
When my daughter was close to three she had a difficult time
having her father and me in the same location at the same time.
We however were divorced. She sensed the tense feelings between
us and tried to keep us separated because the tension was too
difficult for her. Are there any tensions between you and your
husband? Are you worried each time the three of you come
together thus creating a tense feeling that your son picks up?
It is my experience that most behavioral difficulties with
children are corrected when the parents make changes in how they
are operating. Most of all it is important that you not take
your son's behavior personally. My experience (32 years as a
psychotherapist as well as 20 years as a single parent now an
adoptive parent as well--and with grandchildren!) is that the
child is working desperately to handle emotional energy that
feels overwhelming and not good whenever a child behaves in this
way.
Hope these thoughts are helpful!
Ilene
We just went through this very thing. It was VERY HARD for me to deal
with. My husband stays home with my daughter while I work and while
they've always had a special bond, my 2 1/2 year old daughter was
always glad to see me and we had great times together on weekends
and evenings. Suddenly, she started saying ''No Mommy'' and would
throw herself on the floor screaming if I even entered her visual space.
The way we handled it was this - whenever she would say ''No Mommy'',
my husband would say, ''when you say no mommy, it makes daddy sad.
If you say no mommy then daddy will go away''. Then if she said it
again, my husband would go into his office and start working on
something. He didn't leave the house or close the door, but he took his
attention away from her. Since his undivided attention was what she
was after - after awhile she stopped saying it and is now putting up with
me again. Now, when I enter the room, she'll look at me and instead of
saying no mommy she says, ''no mommy makes daddy sad''. You can
see that she really wants to say ''no mommy'' but stops herself. Over the
last few weeks things have gotten better and better.
I was SOOO glad that this ended. It was incredibly demoralizing for me
to be rejected like that. I hope that your child's phase ends quickly.
Please try not to take it too personally, it really is just a phase and will
end.
Good luck
Lonely Mommy
August 2003
My daughter will be 3 in October. Increasingly, she has become
very clingy and wanting me (her mom) to do everything for her:
get her clothes on, get her a snack, take her to the bathroom,
etc. She also gets upset if I leave her with her dad even for a
short time.
Tonight I needed to move our car from one place outside our house
to another and she screamed and cried because I wouldn't let her
come with me. It was not possible for my husband to move the car
instead of me. In the two minutes I was gone she didn't stop
yelling and deliberately urinated on the floor in our bedroom.
My husband has been on vacation for the last two months (and I'm a
SAHM), so it's not like she's not used to him being around. In
the past, things have improved dramatically in their ability to do
things together over the course of the two months. This year,
though, it seems like she is more desperate for my attention.
Thankfully, there are times when she is content to stay home when
I have to go out for a longer period of time, so it's not totally
constant.
Frankly, though, I'm sick of it. Overall, I do far more than my
share of taking care of her (and her older brother) and don't feel
like she is deprived of my attention at all. Furthermore, I feel
that her relationship with her dad is very important and that she
needs to recognize that he can do things for her too. He goes
back to work in a week, so I know the dynamics will change soon.
I hate leaving a screaming child when I have to go somewhere (like
to the bathroom by myself when we were camping), hate feeling like
I'm the only one who can satisfy her, and am at the end of my
rope.
Any suggestions?
Wrung-Out Mom
Be careful what you wish for. My partner would bemoan the fact
that he could do NOTHING for our (then 2-3yo) and she only wanted
me. Now she ONLY wants Dad and doesn't have the time of day for
me. What did we do? Nothing. I simply met her need for me (as
much as I could) because I knew the day would come (she's our 3rd).
Be patient, one day she'll only want daddy and you won't be able
to do ANYTHING without screams of protest. :)
Kathy
Is that MY daughter you are talking about? Because my
daughter who will be 3 in August has been going through
exactly the same thing! I have no advice for you, in fact I can't
wait to see what advice you get back, but I can offer you tons
of sympathy!
smothered mommy too
Three & Four Year Olds
Oct 2007
My 3.5 year old daughter just told me that she likes Daddy better
than me, because he does more fun activities with her and takes
her fun places. True. Just this weekend he took her to a festival
where she had a blast, while I stayed home with the napping baby
and took advantage of the empty house to get some cleaning up
done. Should I be concerned that she is not developing a positive
relationship with me? Should I try to do more fun stuff with her,
or should I accept that Daddy and me have different roles? Is
she connecting with me in a different way? I am a little worried
that later, as a grown up, she might remember me as the one with
whom she never had any fun.
This too shall pass. When I had my second and had to be the
primary parent on the baby, my then 3 yr old stated many times
that he loved Daddy more and wanted Daddy to read books. Sure
it pulled at my heart strings, but he wasn't meaning to hurt
me. It all passed as the baby grew and we could trade off so I
could have more one on one time with our 3 yr old. Take some
special fun time with your 3 yr old. Let Dad have the special
time he deserves as well.
patriica
Come on! You can't take remarks like this so personally.
Parenting is a forever thankless job. Developmentally, your 3
year old's words are right on: Daddy time is fun time! But
don't be offended or concerned. She likely thinks you provide
comfort, safety, nourishment, etc. Those concepts are just
more difficult to articulate and not as ''sexy''. And yes, maybe
good to create your own ''fun'' times but this could be playing
with a hose in the backyard or having a playdate in your home
with some ''fun'' activity. The comparisons/complaints never end
as your child gets older. You need to protect yourself from
taking them personally or you create a vicious cycle.
According to my 8 year old I have bad taste in music; some ok
but also some pretty darn ugly clothes; I sing off-key; my home-
cooked meals sometimes suck; I'm not as pretty as her best
friend's mom; etc. Oh, well! She does know that I love her
and appreciates our special moments--reading together, walks,
laughing at her baby sister's antics. Developing a thick skin
and being yourself in a caring, nurtuting, compassionate way
will well serve all of you.
thick-skinned mama
It's normal at her age to be more attached to dad than mom. My
husband and I have days when we do activities as a whole family,
but we also do alone times where it's just him and her and then
another day it would be just the two of us. During these
special times, she gets the fullest attention. We don't do
other work and we don't answer phones unless it's an emergency.
Crystal
No doubt you have had some good times with your daughter over
the last 3 years. I think it's pretty normal for girls to start
favoring their daddies at some point. It's also normal for daddy
to seem more fun if he is around mostly on the weekend, etc. I
would be happy if my husband took my daughter out just the two
of them. I do both all the mommy things and the special fun
things, 9 times out of 10, and I'm sure she will still ditch me
for daddy at some point.
anon
My 3 yr old son spends Monday thru Friday every week with his
Dad while I am at the office. The have loads and loads of fun.
For example....watch trains or make Mac trucks honk horns at
them, go to construction sites to watch the tractors and so
much more! I would never do those things with my son because
that's just not exciting to me. When I go to pick him up, he
doesn't want to come home because he has so much fun with his
Dad and sometimes he even puts on the sad face and cries.
However, once he is home with me, he is fine. His thing with me
is a whole lot of hugs and kisses and closeness, which he
doesn't do with his Dad. He gives me so much love when he's
with me. So, don't feel bad if your 3 yr old prefers Dad over
you sometimes. We all bring different things to the table and
they all balance out. At that age, it's all about having fun
and of course your 3 yr old is going to lean towards Dad if
he's the one dishing out the fun stuff. Your child loves you
just as much. Just be happy that your child is happy!
Nicole
March 2007
I know it's normal for kids to go through a stage of favoring one
parent over another, but it's still tough to know how to deal
with it. Our 3yo daughter has always been a momma's girl. We
worked on this by scheduling fun classes with her dad on
weekends, which helped a lot. About two months ago, she got very
sick (pneumonia). I did too, and I stayed home to take care of
her. While she was sick she didn't want anything to do with her
dad. If he came near her, she'd scream, yell, flail, kick, and
slam things (which sure made things tough, since I was unwell at
the time). When she got better, so did her behavior, but lately
it seems like we're back at square one. This morning he said
hello to her and she didn't even look up at him, she just kind of
snarled. It's gotten so that my husband's reluctant to confront
her and I'm always being called in to make peace after she throws
a fit.
I suspect that she needs more attention and is feeling insecure,
but I'm just not sure which way to lean. When I comfort her and
help her, I feel like I'm reinforcing her negative attitude
towards her father. When I refuse to accept her behavior, she
just completely loses it. Sometimes I lose it too, and end up
yelling at her or her dad, which of course only makes things
worse. I try to talk to her about being nice and not hurting
Daddy's feelings, but it just makes her dig in her heels. Nothing
my husband says helps either.
I just feel like we're stuck in a rut. I also worry that she's
picked up her volatile temper from me. My biggest challenge, in
fact, is trying not to overreact to her outbursts. I've noticed
that things defuse faster if I stay calm, but it's just SO hard
when it's always on me and I'm having to deal with so many
tantrums - especially when I'm nursing her younger sister!
What can we do to restore peace?
It seems your daughter is jealous of you being taken away from
her now that you have a little one in the home that your now
focusing on as well as nursing. It's terrible that she's so
disrespectful to your husband but you stated that you yell at
him, too. It's easy for our children to imitate how we treat
our spouses. I'd suggest that you have your husband set up some
playdates with himself and your daughter. They obviously need
to get to know each other and you also need a break from her. I
know how tedious and exhausting it is to deal with a little one
and a newborn. It's hard. But anyway sometimes you just have
to pull out of it and let them deal with it. Take a breather
and let your husband be more ''hands-on.'' I can't help feeling
you've been controlling their relationship to a degree and now
it's time for you to let go and let your husband in. Good luck!
been there
We have a 2 y/o daughter and she goes back and forth with
favoring one parent over the other. She can be quite mean about
it and has reduced me to tears on more than one occasion. No
Mommy. I want Daddy!!! Right now, she's a mommy's girl and
won't kiss her father goodbye or greet him when he gets home.
Yesterday morning when he went to get her out of bed, she
wanted nothing to do with him. She didn't even want him to
touch her. The favored parent usually sits her down and says
that she can't treat Daddy (or Mommy) that way. Sounds to me
like your daughter is reacting to a couple of things: I don't
know how old her new sibling is, but that probably plays a role
in it. She sees that you are busy and she wants your sole
attention like she used to have. Your husband also needs to
spend more time with your daughter alone. Is he fun? Does he
play with her and act silly with her? Does she enjoy playing
with him at all? I have also found that it's best if the
rejected parent doesn't react to the outbursts. When my
daughter was in a Daddy phase, she said she only wanted to play
a game with Daddy. When I said, Can Mommy play too? She said
NO! Go away! So I said ok and went and sat on the couch to
read. She was on me in a second and said, Mommy, you want to
play too? I think she discovered that she couldn't control me
or my emotions, which is honestly what I think she was trying
to do. It's a hard phase. Good luck.
Anon
Jan 2007
Our 3 year old son has shown a strong preference for his dad
over me (mom) ever since he was old enough to express a
preference. When dad is home, he only wants to be with him -
he tells me to go away, does not want me to play with the two
of them, only wants dad to help him get dressed, brush his
teeth, make his breakfast, etc. We do our best not to give
into these kinds of things, which results in a lot of tantrums.
When he crys out in the middle of the night, and when he gets
hurt, he wants dad. He is fine with me when dad is not around
and does not cry for him when he's not there (I work 3 days a
week and am home the other 2, while dad works 5 days a week).
It has gotten somewhat worse since his little brother was born
last summer, but it was already going on before that so we
can't attribute it solely to that. I do tend to be the parent
who does things like doctor and dentist visits, and a lot of
the more mundane day to day tasks, while his dad is a really
fun playmate (though I want to be clear that he does take on an
equal share of discipline and has done his best to back me up
on this in every way).
I deal with it okay most of the time, but sometimes it makes me
really sad. My questions - has anyone else had experience with
a child whose preference is so clearly for dad over mom? If
so, what have you done to try to balance things out? How did
you deal with your hurt feelings? I've tried taking him on
special outings, just one-on-one - we always have a lot of fun,
but nothing is different when we get home. I also try to
respect his need for alone time with his dad, given that he
doesn't get to spend as much time with him. But we're
struggling with how to handle him doing things like ordering me
out of his room when dad is around. We've tried the route of
telling him it's not acceptable to talk to either of us that
way, and have given time outs, but that hasn't really seemed to
work - it stops the behavior in the moment, or even for the
rest of the day, but then it crops up again. Would it be
better to just ignore those behaviors? Would appreciate any
insights!
anon
I don't have a lot of advice for you but I thought it might
help you to know that we are going through an almost identical
situation. My son (2.5 years) also strongly prefers his dad for
everything. And I mean everything! Only dad can unbuckle my
carseat, only dad can put my jacket on, only dad can get
crackers out of the box for me, and on and on. It has been
going on for over a year now and it makes me really sad, too. I
try to be logical about it but it's hard. It's hard on my
husband, too, because our son is a pretty spirited kid and he
ends up having to deal with more of his meltdowns when we're
all together, because our son won't have anything to do with
me, especially when he's upset. And in our case it can't really
be attributed to my husband being the ''special'' or ''fun''
parent, as we both work full-time and do equal amounts of the
dirty work (diapers, getting up at night, etc.) when we're at
home. I really don't know what the cause is and it is
exhausting both emotionally (for me) and physically (for my
husband). What we are trying to do is especially not let it get
between me and my husband, so that we resent each other (me for
not being the preferred parent, him for having to be with the
toddler more). We talk about it a lot and resolve to prioritize
our marriage over our son's whims. Now that our son's language
is better, we are also trying to be tougher about things like
rudeness (he can't scream at me to ''go away''), and also to be
tough about sometimes daddy can't pick you up while he's
carrying the laundry, etc. Our son also is better behaved when
he's with just me by myself, so we try to do fun things just
the two of us. Sometimes it seems like it's working, sometimes
not. So I'm looking forward to seeing your responses. I think
it's especially hard when the preferred parent is the dad over
the mom, because you feel like gender roles would suggest that
you should be the ''softie,'' and that you must be a mean cold
parent for such a young child not to prefer you. Not to suggest
that that's true of you at all, only I understand completely
why this is hard for you.
I feel your pain!
Wow! I wish I could say I have advice for you, but really wanted
to write to tell you I could have written this myself - as well
as the 1 response you've received thus far. My son is 2 1/2 and
we are experencing the exact same thing. We have no idea what
it's attributed to. We both work full-time and he's in day care
during the day. I too feel quite emotionally drained and I know
my husband is physically drained. He's fine if it's just us
together, and is quite loving to me most of the time. However,
if daddy is around, and especially if the little guy is upset
about just the slightest thing, ONLY daddy can respond to his
needs - whether it's wiping his nose, throwing away a banana
peel, changing his diaper, or taking off his shoes. It's nuts,
and causes quite the stir of emotions in all of us. I'm the mom
- it's natural he should prefer me, right?
I don't have an answer, and wish that I did. It's been going on
for over 6 months now. I guess I just wanted to write to let you
know that you're not alone. I look forward to seeing if anyone
out there has advice or words of wisdom.
santina
I responded to a question like this years ago. It is in the
archives, and I won't repeat. It is now 11 years later. The son
who preferred Dad then has discovered, at 15, that both parents
are equally useless and know nothing. So take heart. Parenthood
is a long road. Things will balance out, many times. My
grandmother always said that when you think you can't stand it
any more, it changes. She was a wise lady, and dead-on right on
this issue. Keep a sense of humor, love your kid like there is
no tomorrow, and he will come around.
Been there, done that
2001
I'd love some suggestions about this. We have a delightful 3 1/4 year old
girl, single child, who is more and more frequently being "mean" to her
dad. It takes the form of speaking in a very, very cross voice to her dad,
rejecting all offers of help from him, saying "don't talk to me" "don't
look at me", making a growling-whining sound at him when he walks into a
room etc...I'm sure you can imagine. Is this a normal 3 yr old stage?
There haven't been any new stresses or changes in our lives. We have
tried: 1)ignoring her outbursts,2) saying "I don't like the way you are
talking right now", 3)telling her that it hurts dad's feelings when she is
treating him in this crabby way all the time. We'll try to find some
humorous thing to shift the mood....but I'd love other insights. Thanks!!
Karen
From: Regan
I'm no expert on toddlers - my oldest child will be three in January.
But I've had the same concerns recently, i.e. she's sweet and
generally cooperative with me but lately not only uncooperative with
her dad, but also physically abusive with slapping and kicking. I
believe that a big part of the problem was that she wasn't seeing me
treat him nicely. Since realizing this, I've made an effort to be
extra demonstative, kind and affectionate with my husband and our
daughter's behavior has greatly improved! Actually, we're all happier
now...
From: Alexis
I don't know how "normal" this behavior is, but I can assure you that
my son (3.5 years old) exhibits the same sort of behavior, but it's
directed towards *me.* His father has always been the primary
caregiver, and we also had a second son in December, so our
circumstances are a bit different from yours, and issues of jealousy
about his little brother may be contributing to our problem, although
our older son is always really sweet and well behaved towards his
brother.
In my son's case, the behavior isn't relentless, but it sure happens
regularly enough to really hurt my feelings, especially if I'm tired
or have had a rough day already. Generally, the more lightly I react
to it, though, the less severe it is. It's almost as though it's some
sort of test that I flunk if I react strongly to it.
I'll be very interested to hear what other people's experiences have
been with this sort of thing.
From: Karen
Response to parent who asked about their 3-1/2 year old daughter hitting
her father.
My daughter's behaviour towards her father began to change at around 3-1/2,
including hitting and name-calling. We spent a lot of time trying to
figure why. Here are some of our findings or theories....
At around 3-1/2 her Daddy became a much more important part of her life.
It's not uncommon at this age for children to want the opposite sex parent
all to themselves, to talk about marrying them or having them fall in love
with them. I know that spending time with her father began to become much
more important to her (and has increased over time - she's 4-1/2 now). As
a result, it hurts and angers her much more than ever before if/when Daddy
isn't around, even though he wasn't around less than before. Some of these
feelings seem to get expressed in hitting and name-calling. My husband has
made more of an effort to interact with her, and for them to have some
special time together.
Another big change is that rough-housing has become really important to my
daughter, and Daddy is the most fun for her to do that with (and he enjoys
it more than I do). She has increasingly enjoyed feeling physically
stronger and mastering the world, and rough-housing is really important
way for her to experience these feelings.
My daughter has always been on the meek side and she's found it
disconcerting and very frightening to have aggressive feelings now that she
finds herself the big girl at pre-school instead of the intimidated little
girl - she is now what she both wanted to be and was afraid of just a year
ago. The way she talked about this was by telling me a "scary" story about
a ghost who wanted to kill everyone in the world, but eventually decided
not to and everyone like her. Rough-housing has been an important outlet
for some of those feelings. We've encouraged this because we don't want
her to feel that agressive feelings are bad - I think they are somewhat new
to her and sometimes very strong, which has been scary, since she knows
it's not right to hit people. The rough-housing lets her know it's ok to
have these feelings and express them in the right kinds of situations, and
that she shouldn't feel that she is bad for having these feelings. My
husband says things about how strong she is getting, or what a good punch
she gave him (and she always "wins"). But it's also very important to make
sure she's clear about when it is ok to hit, or what it takes to start or
stop rough-housing; we let her come up with "code words" to start and stop.
She still sometimes hits my husband when she is mad at him, but he
continues to remind her to use words to tell him what she's feeling. The
fact that he listens is important and it seems to be a big factor in her
expressing feelings to kids, too, for example when another child is doing
something that bothers her.
It is of course possible that children who are hitting and name calling can
be angry for some reason, at the parent they are hitting or about other
things in their life. Of course this is more difficult to figure out. My
daughter can sometimes talk about her feelings, but at other times we get
more insight into what's bothering her by listening to the stories she
makes up.
We figured much of this out by trial and error and by talking with friends
with kids of their own. I hope it's helpful.
March 2005
My son is 3 1/2. I know that children of this age are notoriously fickle and
moody, but he has been going through a very intense MOMMY phase
recently which is threatening to get out of hand. We also have a
daughter who's nearly 1, and this happened also right after she was
born, but I thought he was past it now. (And he's doing better with his
sister than he was before.) It's to the point where if his dad--who is
affectionate, gentle, playful with him--looks in on him in the bath, or
comes downstairs in the morning for breakfast, my son greets him with a
scowl and/or says ''NO Daddy! I don't like you!'' or ''Go away Daddy!''
Yesterday after a nap, when I was somewhere else, it was more extreme
even, ''BAD Daddy! You're a bad person! You're not my friend and I don't
like you! I want Mommy!'' etc. Meanwhile with me, although sometimes
he pulls the ''Bad Mommy'' line too, mostly he's all sunshine and
affection.
Can anyone tell me whether this is all perfectly normal and will pass, or
whether we're in some crazy Oedipal drama that will only end when he
has driven his father away completely? My husband is very patient with
all of this but has admitted lately that it's beginning to wear him down,
and affect his feelings toward our son. He loves him very much, of
course, but is finding all the rejection hard to take.
Any advice or anecdotes much appreciated.
Mystified Mom
There is a fine line between allowing/encouraging your child to express
his feelings, and allowing him to express abusive feelings, or rule the
roost.
Kids can easily pick up when they've hurt a parent's feelings or even
when they are tugging on heartstrings. And they will use it to their
advantage (Who wouldn't? We all prefer to get our way).
The problem is, by letting the child have inappropriate amounts of
power, they have no security, because there is noone to rein them in, or
provide structure. It's scary to know you can get your parents to do
what you tell them to, because it puts adult responsibility and
decisions, for which you're not ready, on your shoulders. (Been there -
this was my childhood; there was a constant feeling of being on shifting
ground. Plus, my parents always lost their power to me, making them feel
frustrated. All in all, not so good).
My advice: Reactions and responses should be consistent and unified when
he expresses these sorts of feelings. Both of you should try hard to not
feel bad, especially with him able to see it. It's easy to pit parents
against each other unless they're a unified force. As tempting as it is
to cave and play the good guy role, don't let yourself.
Calmly, without bringing emotions into it, tell your child ''No, it's
not okay to be mean to Daddy''. or ''It's ok, you don't have to like me,
but sometimes you're going to spend time with me anyway''. And don't
give in to the tantrums or screaming. Model what it WOULD be okay to
say: ''It's okay to say 'I want some alone time now, Daddy''' so he
learns what to replace his bad habit with. The first several times you
do this, he likely won't even hear you due to screams. But over time,
he'll learn there's a new way things are done, and that you draw the
line at him abusing one of you. If possible, let him have space if he
doesn't want to play with Dad, but he should not have Mom running in to
console him either. Alone time means he gets space, not choice about who
takes care of him. This is really to respect a personal boundary. He
might not want to be touched by the less-favored parent, and that's ok
if the situation allows. He doesn't get to constantly choose who takes
care of him.
Good boundaries
Its normal, sorry. My advice to you is to be extra nice to your husband
until it blows over, and to store all the warm, fuzzies you can with
your son --- because its likely your daughter will have equally strong
feelings the opposite way when she's 2 1/2
-3 1/2.
As long as your husband is good-humored enough to get through this, and
your son is not actually hurting anyone, I'd just wait till its over.
By the way - my son went on being sweet to me well into middle-school,
even after he reconciled the Oedipal stuff and decided his dad had
redeeming value.
''Boys are Different''
I have a girl, and she's a little younger than your boy, but maybe my
two cents (or 15 cents..) will still help. I think the little ones have
a variety of reasons for preferring one parent over the other, and it
probably will change over time (for example, when my daughter is 8-10
and really into the knock- knock jokes, I expect she'll reject me, and
have a great time with dad...). However, there seem to be a few factors
that can change things a little bit; some are things that the preferred
parent can do, and some are things the rejected parent can do.
First and foremost, I no longer tolerate rude behavior from my toddler
toward my husband. If she rejects him outright or says she doesn't want
him around, and comes running to me, I tell her that it's not very nice,
and that we need to go back and tell Daddy that we're sorry for hurting
his feelings. This is a delicate balance, since there are times when
Daddy doesn't understand the reasonable request she's making, or when
she forgets to ask Dad instead of coming to me (simply because Dad isn't
around as much, and frankly, doesn't always pay as much attention when
he is around). Sometimes, I simply say, ''No, that's not very nice, and
I can't pick you up when you're screaming and whining.'' It can be
difficult because it used to be that when she was little, her whining
and screaming were her primary communications mode, but now our job as
parents is to let her know that she needs to use her words to
communicate (and trust me, she CAN), and the primary way of doing that
is to not let her have her way if she communicated her wants by whining,
screaming, or rejecting Dad. The bottom line is that I don't want to
give in to her misguided thinking that Mom is the only parent or best
parent, and I certainly don't want to let her pit us against each other.
The other part of this problem is Dad. In my case, Dad has a tendency to
be very passive and simply shrug his shoulders when our daughter says
''NO!'' and runs away from him. He also is so impractically thin-skinned
that he takes a 2-yr-old's rejection personally, without noticing that
she occasionally does the same thing to me. And of course, if I am
alone with her, and we need to get out of the house for a doctor's
appointment, and she runs away from me, her rejection is irrelevant. We
get dressed, we go. Get over it. Dad hasn't figured this out yet because
it's easy enough to rely on Mom as perennial backup. So clearly, there
are things that Dad can do. For example, he can say, ''I know you want
Mom right now, but it's my turn to help you, and I really want to play
with you.'' And give the kid some boundaries (and gentle discipline)
when she pushes them and tries to reject him. She needs to learn, and
you need to help her learn, that everything will be ok with Dad too, and
that Mom will be there later. She will probably even learn that some
things are more fun with Dad.
The third part of this equation is how to train yourself and your
husband to be firm and consistent. Which means, first off, that you need
to be willing to walk away from your screaming child who is busy
rejecting his dad for no apparent reason, and explain to your child that
you're not going to tolerate this behavior. The older the kid, the
harder it will be to retrain everybody, but I believe that with
consistency, it can be done.
I've got a pretty sensitive kid, and if she doesn't get with the
program, and she keeps misbehaving, I tell her I'm going to pick her up
and put her on the sofa inthe other room. Then I follow through. It
sometimes takes 3 times before she gets it, and sometimes the final one
is to tell her while she's on the sofa (she gets up almost immediately
and follows me back to the other room), that I can pick her up and give
her a hug if she stops crying. (It helps to have some extra ''buffer
time'' in your day- having a tight schedule makes it difficult to do
these things.)
I also have started working more actively with my husband. This is the
most aggravating part of it (and the reason why I am writing this long
post, since I suspect I'm not the only one with this issue). Of course
it seems so obvious to me that even though theoretically he's ''doing no
wrong'' by being so passive and standing by while she runs back to me,
he is tacitly handing her off to me, and making me take care of it. The
aggravating part is that he sees himself as a victim, while I see myself
as the 24-hr cop who never gets to have a break. (And you MUST not give
in to the idea that you should ''rescue'' your screaming kid, even
though you know that if you pick him up, he'll stop crying immediately.
You have to give up the idea that you are the backup too.) And of course
I think Dad should put as much active thought into it as I do, but
that's not going to happen, so what I have begun doing is explaining to
him in as nice a way as I possibly can that our daughter will learn to
accept and respect him to the extent that he accepts and respects his
authority over her. Although his first (angry) response to this was that
he would ''strong-arm'' her to put on her pajamas or whatever the task
at hand was, I gave him a few more ''empowering'' suggestions of how to
discuss things with her (since it won't be long before strong-arm
tactics just won't work anyway)--such as, ''tell her this is what we're
going to do, here are your choices, and tell her I'm sorry if she wants
to do something that's not within the realm of those choices.'' (By the
way, we do not have these conversations in front of our daughter, and I
usually wait until the screaming episode has passed to have these
discussions, because otherwise we're all pissed off and unreasonable.
but it usually falls on me to figure out how to resolve the problems.)
And I explain how, if he does nothing after she screams and runs away,
then he's basically rewarding her for her poor behavior.
She gets what she wants by screaming. So, for example, I've suggested
that he needs to have a plan: we're going to the playground, we're
taking our pajamas off, etc., and to know what he's going to do if she
screams. Then if she still comes back to me, I can check what his plan
is, back him up with whatever plan he's got, and send her on her way.
This is not as awful as it sounds. She can still get hugs along the way,
but she doesn't get rewarded for screaming, and if she comes back to me,
she can get an explanation that it's Dad's turn to help her, and it will
be my turn later, and that we need to go back to Daddy and say ''I'm
sorry,'' and give him a hug, and that we need to talk to Daddy and let
him help, but that's the way it's going to be. The intensity and
duration of the crying gets less and less over time. In fact, as I
write this, Daddy and daughter have *happily* gone off to the playground
after resolving this morning's Daddy rejection. Once she realized that
this is the way it is, and that Daddy can do it (and once Daddy realized
that he can and must do it), they both had some fun, and it was easy.
anon
April 2003
I'm hoping someone has some advice on how to handle the
following situation. My 3.5 year-old daughter is in a phase
where she is particularly nasty to Dad and loving towards me.
It should be noted that I am 33 weeks pregnant, and I'm sure
this has something to do with it. Several times a day, she
rejects Dad with statements like ''I hate Daddy'' or ''I want Daddy
to go away forever'' or ''I don't want Daddy in here doing xyz; I
want Mommy.'' Often if we take her words lightly, and my husband
engages her in one of her favorite activities, the rejection
quickly fades, but of course, it's challenging to face her harsh
words repeatedly through the day. Has anyone else dealt with
this? Any suggestions for constructive responses? Many thanks.
Dana
We had a similarly painful situation. My 3-year-old daughter
rejected ME for almost 2 years after my second child was born.
It was very painful to be rejected, and though I tried to ignore
it, it really bummed me out. What saved us was that I started
to read Harry Potter books to her (only I could read them, Daddy
refused), and she became obsesses with hearing me read the first
book, so it became OUR thing together. I think she was longing
for something to bring her back to me, but whatever the reason,
it worked. So, in hindsight, I suggest you and your partner
find something really great/fun/intimate that is special to
Daddy, and have him do it with her exclusively. Good luck!
Anon.
March 2010
This may be a mixture of my post partum depression lenses and my son's
post partum unraveling because of his 7 week old brother, but...
I am heartbroken because my son has started really rejecting me and being
mean to me. While he probably always enjoyed his dad a bit more (wrestling,
better at playing cars, etc), we have always had our own nice relationship. In
the past few weeks he has been letting me know that he doesn't really want
me around (''you go make dinner/feed the baby so daddy can play with me'')
or even saying that he acted out at school because he wanted his dad to pick
him up and not me.
It doesn't help that I am the disciplinarian in the family and the one who
thinks he needs to be polite and listen, etc. My husband is more than willing
to try to more of the disciplining, but he isn't really as quick as he needs to be
in putting our son in time out or telling him to use polite words. (And
sometimes he piles it on too thick just because he doesn't have a natural
sense of what the discipline should look like. It is just awkward).
We don't know what to do. On one hand, I think kids should know when they
hurt someone's feelings. On the other hand, i think if we do too much of that,
our son will ramp up his bad behavior even more because he knows it gets
me. Tonight at dinner I had to excuse myself after he said something
rejecting to me because I just had to go cry. It made me so sad.
What should we do? Where is the line between helping our son be
compassionate and appreciative of who I am and not either dumping on him
responsibility for my emotions or fanning the flames of rebellion to make it
worse?
Thanks
jj
First, I think you are suffering from post-partum hormones.
My son has said some very mean things to me, and he doesn't
hurt my feelings. He just turned five, but age four is when
they test out the boundaries. He will likely start lying a
lot right now too. You can't take kids personally because
they don't know what they are saying. You don't want to
overreact, I think I would just say something like ''that's a
rude thing to say''. Since you are the natural
disciplinarian perhaps you can come up with an appropriate
discipline for him when he's being rude. Also he might feel
a bit rejected as you have your new little one. You could
offer him a bit of time every day (15 minutes) when you play
any game with him he wants and he gets your undivided
attention. The discipline you give your child now, will
help him through life.
Good luck
My older son was and even does once in a while expresses
things like you are bad.. i like dad, he is more cool
etc.... And he has always been emotionally independent and i
am the strict one so all these things add to his reaction.
couple of things that we did to change things around, I hope
it will help you as well.
1. Dad needs to be more strict: talk to him and let him take
charge whenever necessary. This also means you need to hold
yourself back. In our case my husband didn't discipline him
because i overdid it. So we decided that when both of are
home and our son needs to be disciplined, dad will do it. If
he doesn't I shall simply remind my him about it but not do
anything myself. If he is not home then i will try to
discipline him in much more calmer and if it doesn't work I
simply tell him that i will have to talk to dad later about
this and have him work with you on this.
2. SHOW him that mom CAN BE FUN TOO: spend some quality time
alone with your kids. with the second child its possible
that your older one feels left out and this is his way of
expressing it. And when i say quality time i mean fun stuff
and not chores and day today stuff. Take him for a game/show
or park alone while dad can spend that time with your
younger child. This will give you some bonding time.
later when things get better and also when your second child
is slightly older to interact have a quality time fun thing
with both kids together.
3. Make him realize that mom is needed very important in his
life: When you kids asks you to go cook or do something
else. make him realize that cooking and cleaning and other
things that you do are necessities of life and someone at
home needs to do it. if you were not around then he will not
get all that. It might seem like too much info for the kid
but trust me they need to know that mom does this not for
fun but because she love you... and cares for you.
4. AND above all when your kid dismisses you like that MAKE
DAD REACT TO IT. Ask him to talk to your kid and explain
that that's not ok, or it hurts ur mom and that he doesn't
approve of it etc.
HTH
PS: my son still expresses that his dad is cool but then
their are days that he comes and hugs me and wants me around
which he has never done with his cool dad so trust me they
come around BUT we need to make it happen
Shree
It can be so hard when our children let out their anger at
us, especially when you are post-partum and feel vulnerable.
It's hard as parents is not to take things personally, yet
so important to practice!You know he is going through an
adjustment process, some of which has nothing to do with
you. Have you heard this story? Imagine that one day your
partner comes home and says, ''Honey, I've decided to have
another wife. She'll arrive in about 6 months and we'll all
live happily together. We'll all love her, don't worry.''
This is a bit what a child feels, the parents who loved him
only, now have more attention for the new baby, and
especially he/she can feel the mother is the ''bad guy'' since
she is the one nursing the baby, and doing all this hands on
care that they no longer get. No wonder he is mad!, not so
much at you as a person, but for what he has lost.
At some point, when he is not mad, you could help him
understand his feelings. ''You know honey, there have been
so many changes with the baby coming. I know it's hard for
you sometimes, and you probably feel mad that I'm not as
free to do the things with you that we used to do. Its ok
to be mad. It takes time to get used to having a new baby.''
When he is mad that you pick him up from school instead of
his dad, you could possibly say ''I know it's fun to spend
time with your dad, and you are disappointed it's me with
baby. You really like playing with dad and being with a
parent without the baby sometimes. He'll be home a bit
later. What would you like to do with him when he comes
home?'' Sometimes expressing the feelings we think our
children have helps them to understand themselves, even
though they might not say anything. It's easy as a child to
get confused by strong feelings, and think you are ''bad'' for
having them. You could also say ''I know you are mad, and
you can always say 'I'm mad'! but I don't like it when you
call me ''....'', or we don't call each other names in this
house, please say ''I'm mad'' instead, or ''I don't like that.''
Giving our children tools to express their frustration, and
differentiating it's ok to feel feelings, but we have to
learn (over time) how to express them in ways that work, and
avoid the ones that don't work for others.
Also perhaps learning parenting tools that are kind and
firm. Time-outs sometimes make things worse for small
children who need connection. Maybe your husband and you
could take a parenting class together? Positive discipline
classes can be very useful and can bring parents on the same
page.
Hope this is helpful. Good luck! Having a new baby is a
hard transition time for everyone.
Anon.
I was there! It may be hard for you to see this, but I am
convinced your older child is angry/hurt because you are
giving your attention to the baby! When I had my second
child, my 3 year old girl (who was previously super-
attached to me) suddenly started refusing to let me read
to her or cuddle her before bed, saying I should go feed
the baby so Daddy could read to her. She was not openly
angry with the baby but she totally rejected me soon after
we came home from the hospital. Some of this you cannot
fix, it just has to pass as your older boy matures a bit
and realizes that you are not totally gone. Here's what
helped: Dad took the baby away from the house or I and my
daughter left them at home, to do things alone together.
You can call it ''special time'' and mention that the baby
can't come. Also, I took her out to shop for books that
she would realize would be more fun to read with me than
Dad. I bought them and just put them on the shelf,
saying ''tell me when you want to read these with me, Daddy
doesn't want to read them.'' Try not to be holding or
tending to the baby while you try to interact with him.
Point out the ways in which he can help you or do
some ''big boy'' things that the baby cannot do with you.
Try not to take it personally - it is developmental. He is
hurt that you (in his mind)''replaced'' him with another
baby. It will pass. Don't forget to enjoy the simple
sweetness of your new baby during this bittersweet time.
This all happened 12 years ago, but I still recall how
painful it was.
Been there
Hi, I have gone through similar times, especially when my
second child was born. I am also the disciplinarian while my
husband slacks off and gets to be ''good time dad.'' I can't
tell you exactly what the issue is or anything, but I would
suggest that you carve out time for you and your son to do
something special together every day. On regular days, maybe
you just sit and play with him for 15 minutes, letting him
direct the activity. My son and I love to play the game
Trouble or build things with Legos, or draw and color, or
bake muffins.
On days when your husband can be with the baby longer, go
out and take your son to the zoo, a museum, the park, or
beach. I think your son is a bit hurt and jealous that
you've got the new baby and he's reacting to that. Don't
make a big deal about it, but give him some special time so
that your interactions with him or more than just discipline.
Now, if you're PPD, that's another story and if you need
help you need to get help. Life with the two kids was way
harder for me and I took a year to realize I had PPD.
anonamom
Hi JJ,
I'm in the almost exact same situation; have a 4 year old son and a baby boy
just a few weeks older than yours. My 4 year old has always favored daddy a
little bit (loves that rough stuff!) and it definitely got more extreme at the end
of my pregnancy and now that the baby is here. While my feelings do get
hurt sometimes when I take a step back it all seems pretty normal and
natural. Let's face it small babies take a lot of mom's time and energy that
used to go to big brother. Seems normal to feel a little bit rejected and act
out in kind. All that nursing and soothing gets tiring for everyone. At 4 our
boys know it is not ok to take it out on the baby (thank goodness!) so they
take it out on us instead. Combine that with the fact that our 4 year old little
guys are at a stage where they are learning about gender and really
identifying with dad.
I work hard to enjoy and foster the good times between myself and my 4 year
old, going so far as to make comments like ''It sure is nice to play with you
like this'' etc when things are going well. My son is especially rejecting
around bedtime and when he is acting out or screaming ''go away Momma'' I
let him know that it hurts my feelings and that I love him all the time. In fact,
we've made ''I love you all the time'' into a game that diffuses the situation.''
''I love you when you're happy; I love you when you're sad. I love you when
you're awake; I love you when you're sleeping. I love you when you're loud; I
love you when you're quiet. I love you all the time.'' He enjoys coming up
with more opposites to add to the list.
I hear ya, it's hard!
Jenny
Kids go through normal phases of preferring one parent over another. This is
just one of those times that he prefers Dad. My daughter was 3.5 yrs old
when her brother was born. She favored Daddy from birth, and even though
she was sometimes interested in the baby, she was often hurtful to me. She's
7 now and we have moments of real closeness, but she still favors my
husband. And that's okay. The best advice I can give you is to keep doing
what you've been doing, such as leaving the room when you're at the point of
tears, and remember that this too shall pass.
I feel like too many parents today spend a lot of time explaining and
discussing things with their kids, in a way treating those kids as adults.
Remember how the adults spoke in those Peanuts cartoons? ''Wah wah wah
wah wah wah.'' That's what our kids hear when the parent spends 20 minutes
explaining how little Johnny hurt Mommy's feelings. Just deal with your
newborn, take care of yourself, and let big brother adjust to having to share
your attention. And still, remember to do things with your 4 yr old, even if it's
just little things at first, and eventually this will all work out. So take him to
the park and leave baby with Daddy, or take him to get ice cream and just sit
there and enjoy watching him become a sticky 4-yr old mess. He needs to see
that Mommy is not the only person who takes care of baby. It gets better, it
gets easier, just don't make a big deal out of this behavior.
anon
My kids go through phases where they prefer one of us to
the other. It sucks when you are the one they don't like,
but don't take it personally. It will change. I think
your instincts are right in that trying to force it will
make him act out all the more.
Remember that having a new baby is a big adjustment,
especially for him, so give him time. Carve out some time
for just the two of you. Start with things that are fun
and always give him the choice -- ''Do you want to stay here
with Daddy and baby or do you want to go out to ice cream/
to the park/ to ride the train with Mommy?'' Have your
husband ask him to do things for the baby, like bring you a
blanket for the baby when you are nursing, then you praise
him for helping out and being such a good big brother. He's
probably feeling displaced and is looking for ways to fit
into the new family structure.
You could try to let him experience some logical
consequences when he says means things. Like if you go
pick him up from preschool and he says he wants your
husband to pick him up, say okay, leave, and let your
husband come half an hour later.
If he says mean things to you, your husband should be the
one to deal with it if he's around or you are too upset.
Not through punishment but just talking to him. ''Wow, that
was not a very nice thing to say. I think you hurt Mommy's
feelings. How would you feel if someone said something
like that to you?'' Or you could just say, ''In our family,
we don't talk to people like that.'' I try to go with a
fairly neutral tone of voice -- no shame, no guilt.
Because, after all, it sucks that he doesn't like you right
now but you can't force affection. The best you can do is
require him to keep nasty comments to himself and that
takes awhile to learn how to do.
Also, if you are moved to tears by something a 4-year old
says, you may well be having some post-partum issues.
BTW, I, too, am much more the disciplinarian than my
husband but right now all 3 of my kids like me best. So
don't feel like you need to give up that part.
Anon
I'm sorry to hear about your situation but I'm pretty sure
it's totally normal. Our then 3 year old daughter did a bit
of that type of rejecting (less sophisticated b/c she is
younger) when her sister was born last year. What helped
then, and continues to help is:
1 - Spending time with the older child without the baby.
2 - Letting the older child see the other parent actively
taking care of the infant (without mom's intervention).
So I would recommend taking just your older son to the park
(or some other outing) while your husband takes care of the
baby or have your husband take the baby out for a walk while
you play cars with your older son.
As your infant gets older and is less (literally in some
cases) attached to you and your husband gains confidence in
caring for the infant, your older son will see that you
aren't just the baby's parent but his too.
Anon
I cannot really speak to the specifics of your case but I
can say looking back now (with 14 months of hindsight) that
bringing a sibling into a young child's life is an an
extremely difficult thing. The first 6 months were really
brutal -kids act up in different ways - but I really did see
my kid and the kid of a close friend have major behavioral
problems. It does get better (it takes a while). I suggest
you get some books about managing siblings - I had one by
Judy Dunn - it at least made me realize that my kid was not
a complete nutcase and the behavior was normal, even if
extremely difficult to manage.
now that my kids are 3.5 and 14 months it is truly adorable
to see them kiss and hug each other and make each other laugh.
had a rough first year
My four year old was exactly the same way in the weeks
following her baby brother's birth. I can't help but think
that this is a way for your son to protect himself from his
hard feelings about the baby's arrival. The way it seemed to
me when my daughter would reject me (which was the first
time this had happened in our family dynamic - I was usually
the ''preferred'' parent) was that she was being pro-active
when she rejected me because she felt rejected by the baby.
All of a sudden, here was baby brother who changed my
physical and emotional availability for her, no matter how
intentional we were in making sure I had some time with her
or involved her with the baby. It actually seemed kind of
emotionally smart, a way to preempt her own rejection. She
adores the baby, and always has, and in many ways doesn't
have many of the struggles with her baby brother that I hear
other kids experiencing. Directly. But I think she directed
her feelings toward me. I remember nights where I was just
devastated. It's such a big change for all people in a
family to welcome a new person into the family dynamic -
you're developing your relationship with the baby, your
relationship with your eldest is changing, your relationship
as parents together is changing - it's overwhelming! I don't
really remember anything in particular helping, as I tried
to spend time just with her, to be as available to her as
possible, and to keep the parts of her routine that seemed
important to her. I just let myself cry when I needed to
(mostly not in front of my daughter - my feelings were so
complicated and it wasn't just about her). I would tell her
when she made me sad. I talked with other second-time
parents and tried to trust that it would pass. Now, months
later, I can tell you that things are MUCH easier and my
relationship with my daughter is back on track now that our
family is more settled into this new era overall. And we
have the joy of seeing their relationship really start to
get deeper as the baby grows, which makes it all so worth
while. Get support from people who've been there. Be gentle
with yourself and also with your eldest child, who is going
through a huge transition. Acknowledge the transition with
him, and give him some avenues pro-actively for expressing
his feelings about it. He shouldn't feel that all his
feelings should be happy ones. Of course they're not. And
hang in there, it will get easier.
Those first months are hard
My my 4/5 year old did the same thing to me when our 2nd
baby was born. She had just turned 5 so she had been
an ''only'' child for year already & already had the ''me''
attitude. She also has ADD, which my husband denied.I was
unable toget her diagnosed until she was about 10. My
husband was not on board with therapy for that either. He
is not a very good disciplinarian, so my oldest daughter
was able to manipulate him a lot easier than she was me. I
became the ''mean mommy'' while HE was ''mr fun guy''. In
addition, the little sister has developmental delays
&requires more time than a child without such issues. So
even less time for older sister. Had my husband been more
into his own family than his friends, had I been able to
work less and take care of both kids more, had daddy been
more in tune with discipline& backing me up(In other words
being a PARENT rather than my child's FRIEND) a lot of
issues may have been avoided. The 5 year old is now 14 1/2
& treats me very poorly. She is nice when she wants
something, but mostly she smarts off at me,is rather lazy &
expects things to be done for her. She is also jealous of
the younger sister. What is sad is that the older daughter
is extremely smart,&if she applies herself, she will be
able to go far. But she has adopted this attitude of ''what
mommy says means nothing''- she doesn't clean her room,
spends hours on the computer, etc.& when she smarts off
there is no comment from my husband. So my advice in
general is: Dad &Mom have to support each other. If the
child is being mean to Mom, then Dad has to step in
&explain very firmly that this is NOT the way to treat a
parent. Some problems I see with some kids may be the lack
of both parents being on the same page, lack of discipline
(I don't mean spanking etc.- I mean teaching the kids a
disciplined work ethic - doing homework before playing on
the computer &watching tv,etc) along with general respect
for parents. It appears to me that that in some cases
there has been too much ''power'' given to the child and
somehow you have to work back to re-establish roles of
parent and child so that the child is not running the show.
This is extremely diffcult to do when the child is an
adolescent! You may contact me if you want to talk about
this issue some more, although I don't know if I can help
much.
turtlesrus
I am sure you will receive tons of responses, and while I
have not been through a similar situation I empathize with
how upsetting this must be. My first reaction to this is
that your son is jealous and feels like since his sibling
was born he is not getting enough attention from you. Have
you thought about pumping milk for your new baby, leaving
him with your husband, and taking an afternoon to have
a ''date'' with your son? Go to the zoo, or some other fun
thing where you can spend time just the two of you. Give
your husband the baby to feed once a day and spend quality
time with your older son, read some books, play with cars.
Make sure he knows you have a special time with him too.
I agree that kids need to know when they are hurting
someone's feelings. You can tell him so, but tell him you
love him too. He doesn't hate you, he is just having a
hard time sharing you.
This too shall pass.
I've had this issue with my 3-year-old daughter after my 2nd baby was born
(9 months ago). Take heart. It's a jealousy thing. At first, whenever I was
holding the baby -- which was a lot since I was bfeeding -- my older daughter
had to be siting on daddy's lap at the same time, etc. and started saying she
wanted daddy to this or that. It broke my heart, bc she was always a ''momma's
girl.'' So I made a point to spend time alone with her, and do special things
with her - the playground, reading books, etc. to balance things out. It's
important to train your child be polite, etc. but it's also important to play with
them. So things are now balanced. And we don't let her state ''I want mommy/
daddy to do it!'' regarding reading books, brushing teeth, etc. We decide, not
her.
Best of luck, been there.
anon
Is there any way you can get your husband to really do more of the discipline
and you just try to ignore him? It is hard and seems immature, but it might really
work better. If he is getting mileage out of being hurtful, he is learning that it
works. If you can 'act' unconcerned and ignore him, he won't get the message
that being mean gets to the soul...
another easily hurt person
You expressed the dilemma very well.I'm glad to hear about
the addition to your family. Obviously I don't know all
the circumstances, but it is possible that son is angry
about something. It could be as simple as feeling that
you had stopped paying attention to him! It could also be
something different. Maybe when they are playing, dad
could just causually ask him if he is angry at mommy about
something. It might turn out that he is just a little
jealous. It could also be that he is adjusting in his own
way to his new role of being big brother, and is taking
ownership for being more independent. This would be a
positive thing. It's a time of adjustment for everyone.
Since you've got plenty to do, maybe just let dad handle
son for awhile. Best wishes! Latest blog post about why I
don't like time outs at www.parentmoment.com
R
Older Children
Dec 2009
I hear a lot that it's normal and expected for young kids
(1-6) to favor one parent over the other, and that typically
this changes over time, having phases of preferring each
parent when there are 2 in the house. In our family, both
my kids want me most of the time, ask for me, cry for me,
and at times refuse my partner. My partner is just as
loving and involved as I am, and mostly is able to roll with
this and understand it probably has to do with the fact that
I work part time and spend more time with them. But
occasionally my partner gets hurt and upset and feels like
an inferior parent because of it. The preference has never
shifted between us -- it's always me. I don't like it
either! Do other people have this dynamic and what are your
theories about why, if both parents are actually great,
loving parents?
Thanks for any input.
Here's what we did. On certain nights of the week, one
parent would be responsible for a specific duties, like
bathing and bedtime, with NO exceptions. No matter how much
tears, we'd say sorry, it's Daddy's night, Mommy will do
bath tomorrow night, (or the revere.)
Very quickly the preferred parent became the one not on duty.
And quickly after that, because we NEVER gave in, the tears
dried up too.
And for the previously neglected parent, there's nothing
better than hearing your child blubbering that she has to
have you.
anon
Does anyone know, can anyone explain to me the concept of an Oedipal
Victor and what the dynamics are like? My husband and I have one
child, a daughter, who is almost six, who has, for a long time, been a
real "daddy's girl." The only problem is that it has been coupled with
a very strong rejection of Mommy. Mommy is asked to stay back from
family outings, and to generally keep out of the play and interaction
between father and daughter. I used to think our daughter just
preferred more quality time with Daddy, since she gets me all the time
(I'm a stay-at-home-mom). But now I suspect there is much more to it.
My husband is very solicitous of our daughter and lavishes lots of
affection on her. He makes his love for her a very obvious and
constant thing. His affection for me, on the other hand, is extremely
rare and almost never demonstrated openly. On the contrary, my husband
and I have many rifts and disagreements and, though I try to behave
civilly and even warmly towards him, it is much harder for him to do
the same. From him I often get a cold shoulder, he won't answer or
react to me, gets annoyed when I persist, and now my daughter has
taken it one step further and actually treats me like an outcast
whenever we all three are together. She attacks me viciously if I try
to relate myself to them if they are involved in something together,
particularly if she perceives that I am trying to influence or control
how they play. But she will also not let me "mother her" or nurture
her in his presence. It feels like her rejection of me is an extension
of his hostility towards me and quite frankly the situation is
untenable.
When my daughter and I are alone, she is usually very cooperative,
sweet and loving - which has always been her true nature. But when she
gets angry with me, she flies into a rage that includes many hurtful
or -attempts to be hurtful- statements, such as, "everyone hates you."
Though my husband has enunciated to her that he loves us both equally
(his wife and his daughter) I fear his behavior belies another truth
and that is what is creating this extremely painful situation. Any
input that can shed light on this matter would be very greatly
appreciated.
I extend my deep compassion to you as you seem on the verge of facing
some issues for which the outcomes are unknown and pose great risks
for you and your family, but hopefully, great opportunities for
growth. Even in this anonymous e-mail setting, it is very brave of
you to take this step.
From your description, I hear you say that your relationship with your
husband is being played out through your daughter. Your daughter needs
you and needs to have a healthy relationship with you..because you are
her mother and regardless of the relationship you have with your
husband. It is time to assert yourself and require respect from your
family and yourself. Go to a counsellor or a minister or rabbi; go
with your husband; go by yourself if he will not go.
After my sister divorced her husband, she said, based on her
experience, "The most important thing a husband can do for his
children is to love his wife." For her, that wasn't to be and she
divorced him. Because of conservative divorce laws in another state
she ended up having to move out of the house and not live with her
children. She went through several years of her teenaged children
rejecting her. With support and patience and unconditional love for
her children, she managed to reestablish her relationships with her
grown children as they passed into their early 20's. Of course, your
personal circumstances and dyanamics are unique and what happens will
be different. But at this point is does sound as though something
needs to change. If I could bestow gifts upon you it would be
courage, truth and compassion for the journey ahead.
Unless there is a lot of missing information about this situation, and
even if there is, I am terribly concerned about the mom (and her
family) who writes about "Oedipal Victor". There seems to be a severe
disconnect between what the father says to the daughter (mom is okay)
and his clearly unfriendly & distancing behavior to the mother. The
child is (correctly) reading his behavior (hostility) rather than what
he says. Kids are hard to fool, as they lack the intellectualizations
we adults use to justify things or reduce our "cognitive dissonance"
(which see). It must be exquisitely painful for the mom to be
"triangled" out of the romance being fostered by Dad between Dad and
girl child. Whatever he wants to do with or about his wife and their
issues, he has no right to visit this conflict subliminally on the
daughter. It sounds very dangerous to the child's future mental
health to me. Not to mention the mom and himself. He needs to get with
counseling immediately, and preferably with his wife. Another thought:
people tend to recreate their families of origin, because they feel
comfortable with the dynamic, however dysfunctional it may be. God
luck, Mom, I am really feeling your pain. At the very least, I hope
you have some girlfriends you are talking to for support. I believe
they will echo my thoughts on this. (If this person would like to
contact me it is okay.)
I have no formal training in psychology, sociology, or child
development and I know there are plenty of people on this list who do,
but I feel strongly enough about this to want to add my two cents
where I feel comfortable doing so.
First, your husband's behavior towards you: Regardless of what his
behavior arises from, if it is behavior that either of you do not want
your daughter emulating, I would talk to him about it in as
unjudgemental a way as possible and simply state that children (or
your daughter) emulate the behavior of their parents (you can give
specific examples in your case), and you would like him not to do X
[whatever X is] in front of her. Second, your daughter not wanting
you on family outings: My husband and I have great respect for Rudolph
Dreikurs, a well known child psychiatrist and author of "Children, the
Challenge", whose teachings we have successfully used with our own
son. Dreikurs says that the needs of the situation must always be
considered and children must not be allowed to interfere with those
needs. Decide privately with your husband beforehand whether you
should be included in the outing, and if yes, then he or you should
state firmly that you will be going and ignore your daughter's
protests. Otherwise, she will be using her behavior to get her own
way, and that is a power struggle victory for her. Dreikurs has lots
to say about children who always win power struggles with their
parents. The bottom line is, the child ends up an unhappy child.
On the other hand, Dreikurs makes it very clear that a child builds
his or her own relationship with each adult in his/her life. He
doesn't believe that other adults should interfere with that
relationship. That's why I believe that you and your husband have to
agree on those things that really matter in private and then present a
united front to your daughter. If nothing else, I suggest you get a
copy of "Children, the Challenge" (available at Cody's) and study it
thoroughly. It will probably give you a lot of insights into other
issues you listed.
I am not well acquainted with the Oedipal victor (or loser), but I do
recognize an unhappy family situation. In lieu of more specific
advice, I'll repeat what you'll doubtless hear from others: Are you
all in counseling, preferably together? I hope so. Good luck.
Unfortunately in the situation you describe there are no victors.
Speaking from my own experience growing up in a similar family I feel
that your daughter could suffer long term emotional/sexual problems from
being put into the situation you describe. A good couples counselor
might help you improve your relationship with your husband or, if he will
not go to a counselor, an individual counselor can help you decide how
you can best deal with the problems yourself. In the long term this
should take the burden off your daughter and hopefully make for a happier
family. Best wishes.
Dec 2008
My 7-year old is starting to actively dislike me and it's
rubbing off on my 3-year old. They jump around saying things
like ''we like Daddy'' and ''we want to be with Daddy.'' Part
of the problem is that I am the taskmaster in the house, and I
just don't seem to know how to convey authority. My husband
doesn't care if the kids take their plates to the sink or put
their clothes in the hamper. He carries my son's backpack to
the car in the morning because it's just easier to do it
himself. When he takes my daughter to school, her hair is never
brushed. So when I brush my daughter's hair, make my son carry
his backpack, make them take their plates to the sink, I'm the
meanie in the house. Somehow I don't have the authority to get
them to take their plates to the sink with one request. It
takes six. We have cleaners come in once a week, on Saturday
afternoon, and I try to get the family to put toys, clothes,
etc away with me before the cleaners come. My husband often
refuses to help, saying that's not how he wants to spend his
Saturday morning, and then the kids refuse too. Then they hang
out while I clean up. My husband does the laundry, most of the
dishes, drives the kids, etc -- he does a lot to keep the
household going. He just doesn't want to involve the kids in
household chores. My son is quite behind in math, and we have
been told by his teachers that he should be doing extra math
each night. Although my husband was a math prodigy who taught
math to kids for many summers, he refuses to get involved. So
there too it's mean mom and fun dad. My best friend says that
this is just how it is -- moms are the ones who make sure the
homework gets done, and dads get all the breaks because they're
more fun. The difference is that her kids take their plates to
the sink. So I have two problems: how do I civilize my kids
with no cooperation from my husband, and how do I maintain a
good relationship with my kids, when my son is already telling
me that I'm too hard on him? My husband is not going to change.
I think that the only way is to have better cooperation from my
kids on my own. How does everyone else out there do it?
tired mom
I hate to say this, but unless you and your husband get on the
same page when it comes to parenting, the situation with your
kids is not going to improve. For the record, I completely
support your approach. In fact, my kids had age appropriate
chores and responsibilities since the age of two (not that we
donbMarch 2009t have our share of challenges; but it would have been a
million times more difficult had me and my husband not been
consistent in our parenting philosophies). I would really urge
you to have a serious discussion with your partner. Good luck.
anon
You need the support of your husband if you want your kids to
shape up. I have a similar relationship in that I am all about
the daily maintenance: teeth brushing, cleaning, homework,
meals.. my husband will play hide and seek and rough house, etc.
However, he is extremely supportive whenever I ask the kids to
do something. I usually have to ask more than once but they
always do what I ask (eventually) and if he is around, he will
back me up 100%: ''You heard your mom, pick up those toys.'' I
don't think it is necessary that your husband do all the chores
and tasks you want to have happen but he needs to be supportive
of your efforts, otherwise you are fighting a losing battle.
fellow taskmaster
First and foremost, you and your husband have to get on the same
page about the issues you have raised. IbMarch 2009m sure that you have
heard that your kids need consistency from their parents, and it
is quite apparent that they are not getting that. Without
consistency, things will continue as they are and probably get
worse. Dad will be the good guy and you will be the bad guy.
Frankly, it is not healthy that your daughter is baching for parents who are facing exactly
the kinds of dilemmas that you are. I would be delighted to
speak to you at no cost to let you know what I do and how I can
help you and your husband reach agreements and carry them out.
If you are interested in talking to me, please send me an email
and I will get back to you. Good luck! This is very tough stuff.
Regardless of how you decide to deal with this, the important
thing is to take action and quickly. Your kids need it and are
counting on you.
Michael
I can relate to being the ''taskmaster'' and I wondered a few
things about your post:
1) Do you get to do fun things with the kids, too? I mean, do
you feel 100% of your interaction with the kids is getting them
to do stuff? Or do you make time to do fun things too?
2) If your husband does the dishes, why don't you let him be
responsible for having your kids bus the dishes? If they don't,
your husband would be responsible for doing busing the dishes.
3) Do you set up consequences for not doing chores around the
house (e.g., if you don't clean up the toys on the floor, you
don't get to play with them for a day/week)? Or do you give
allowance for doing chores? I do feel kids need some external
incentive for doing things (neither of my kids seem to
intrinsically value a clean house).
good luck!
taskmaster, too
Actually I feel strongly that you need to change your husband to
get him to see that doing everything for your kids is not helping
them in the long run. Set aside some time to talk about it just
the two of you, not in the moment of negotiating with kids!
Perhaps you will need help from a couples counselor.
Right now I have a spoiled, entitled, unappreciative teen (way
beyond normal teen behavior) and it is in part because we did too
much for him and didn't expect enough from him (in the way of
household responsibilities). My husband was expected to do way
too much as a child/teen at home and in his family's business so
he wanted to let our kids be kids, but it has backfired.
So you and your husband need to talk about how to get your kids
to be the kind of people you both are: taking responsibility for
getting things done around the house. You both need to agree on
what the kids' chores/responsibilities are (and revisit this each
year or so). And then he needs to help you enforce the new system.
Start now or regret it later!
It sounds like you are hurt. Have you told your children that
it hurts your feelings when they say they prefer being with
Dad?
You call yourself a taskmaster and a taskmaster isn't very fun
to be around. Rules, such clearing dishes, are reasonable
requests and it's not surprising you have to request this again
and again. But give your children loving, polite reminders. I'm
thinking it might be your tone that people are responding
negatively to in your household. You might have to tell your
family that you're sorry you're grumpy sometimes but there's
lots to do and you can all have more fun together if everyone
helps pitch in.
As for cleaning before the cleaners come, you can choose to do
that or not, but you can't control what your husband does. It
does sound like he does a lot for the family, and that's great.
As for the math, this is the biggest concern. Have you asked
your son to ask his Dad for help? I think it will be hard for
your husband to turn down his son's request for help in math.
Maybe you can remove yourself from this and let them work it
out.
Good luck.
grumpy sometimes too
Hi. I am the in the same boat at home. I think you and your
husband need to get on the same page. Being a parent means
training your children so that when they grow up they can
function well in society. Appropriate responsibilities can
start fairly young. My 6 and 8 year old help me unload the
dishwasher and fold clothes. I make them clean out their lunch
boxes after school every day and make their beds in the
morning. I am the one who pushes the school work, piano
practice, TV off, reading, etc. I really don't mind being
the ''bad guy'' because I know it's to the benefit of my children
in the long-run. They resent me too (the older one does). He
calls me ''strict''. I have to really stay on him to make him do
things himself (like pick up his own backpack that he forgot on
the floor, etc.) same with my daughter. Being a parent isn't
easy. It would be easier if you got your husband on board. I'm
remarried and my husband is helpful but when the kids are with
their dad on the weekends he is very laid back and permissive.
It really bothers me because my son doesn't like coming home
because I welcome him to the real world. Who cares about being
popular with the kids? Parenting is serious business. These are
lives that we are shaping. I grew up as the youngest of 7
children and we all had little jobs around the house (although
I always felt my brothers got off easier). You're doing the
right thing. Hang in there.
anonymous
Wow, I know this is not what you're asking but your husband is
the problem here! Seriously, he's undermining you and doing a
disservice to your kids in several ways. Your somewhat
deteriorating relationship with your kids is because of your
husband and I don't think you can deal with the kid issue
alone. He's passive-aggressive and disrespectful and I wonder
how you're OK with it. You expect your children to learn a
number of new habits, yet you don't expect him to back you up
on things he already knows how to do? I guess I don't get it.
Anon
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