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Over the past year my husband has been caring for our 4-year-old
daughter a couple of days a week while I'm at work. Since that time we
have had several major disagreements about basic safety issues. Some
examples of decisions he's made that I think aren't appropriate for a
* Letting her go into the movie theater bathroom alone.
* Leaving her with her 8-year-old cousin (midday) while he runs out for
approx 45 minutes.
* Pursuing confrontations with rude (unstable?) strangers while she's
This letter is prompted by a call I received at work yesterday from the
gymnastics school telling me that Lea had not yet been picked up (15
minutes after her class was over). It seems my husband got sidetracked
in a conversation while at the coffee shop across the street. My
anxiety was raised further when the teacher told me that my daughter,
tired of waiting, left the building on her own. She was brought back in
by a mother who saw her outside by herself (on the sidewalk of a very
busy street). The teacher did say it was the first time it has happened
(since her enrollment in June).
What do other parents think about this? I am considering scraping
together the extra $200/mo to enroll her in preschool full-time where I
know she'll be safe. Am I over-reacting?
I read this and I just have to write. I think you're very right to be
concerned about your husband's level of responsibility regarding your
daughter. Even though my child is a good deal younger, I have some
experience with this age group, and actually remember being this age
myself. I had a fair amount of freedom as a small child growing up in
New York City (once I took a subway trip on my own to visit my
grandmother at Saks - I was eight and my parents were incredulous).
Children this small are easy targets, and don't have what it takes to
survive without a supervising adult. Many terrible things could have
happened in any one of the instances you mentioned. I think preschool
sounds like a grand idea. I have a good friend who was dragged into
many unsavory situations by her unstable father when she was a child
and even though nothing catastrophic happened to her, she was quite
messed up from this. So I guess what I'm getting at is that exposure
to these types of situations will definitely affect your child to some
degree, even if it's not tragic. In my case, I became accustomed to my
parents not being all that mindful of me, and it became a major
problem when I reached adolescence and felt they had no right to
suddenly want to tell me what to do.
To the mom who does not agree with the dad on safety issues:
In my personal opinion, you are not overreacting at all. I was mortified by
reading this. My son is 3 1/2 and these are the things that are constantly
on my mind because my ex-husband and I have very different opinions on
safety. He once left my son alone in a Jack in the Box bathroom washing his
hands while he went in one of the stalls and closed the door. My son ended
up falling and hitting his lip on the sink, which is not even the worst
that can happen All I could think of was that some weird person could have
walked into the bathroom and grabbed my son. I know I am being paranoid,
but I feel that you cannot be careful enough these days. I would definitely
put her in pre-school full time where you know she will be safe. It will
give you a piece of mind and you will be able to concentrate on your work
without constantly worrying about her safety. Good Luck.
I think your husband could use a parenting class on how to keep a child
safe. It sounds like he is unaware of the developmental inability of
youngsters to know dangers. That is why they have parents to protect them.
I think it is frustrating to try to convince a husband (or anyone) to learn
something new but if this is your first child, it is new to him. Could he
read some books on the topic of child care? I think you could pay for the
daycare but it would be more valuable for your husband to learn how to care
for his daughter as it is a long-term situation. I hope you do something
because this could lead to real trouble. We all have to learn to parent.
I agree with you and wouldn't leave my 4 year old for 15 minutes with
anyone, father or not, who did the things you mention. (And by the
way, I have a friend who's cousin has struggled with sexual attraction
to kids and warned her never to let her child go in a public restroom
alone, as public restrooms are a prime place for sexual abuse of
children to occur.)
But you raise an interesting area of exploration: What do we do when,
as a parenting team, we disagree on safety and other parenting issues,
even if as a couple we're relatively stable and happy with each other?
My husband and I are trying to view the disagreements arising about
caring for our 10 month old as an opportunity to try to understand
each other's perspective's better, adn with more respect and love, but
we are lucky enough to have some free counseling sessions available
through my work and I suspect that we would really be at loggerheads
without the outside mediator. At least we can see the source of some
of our differences: Image- as the two of us are driving down the
freeway of life, fundamentally his perspective/ concern is "Will I be
caught?" and mine is "Will I be hit/hurt?" While intellectually we
recognize that his psyche probably reflects being raised Catholic and
in a military family, and mine reflects being raised in an
unpredictable and sometimes physically violent one, this intellectual
awareness does not always help when I am concerned about our child's
safety and he is not. I don't necessarily have any big answers - and
would be interested in other's thoughts.
I have a 3 1/2 year old daughter and I wouldn't be comfortable about any of
the situations that you described. Chances are that nothing will go wrong,
but I would not be willing to take those kinds of chances when not
necessary. Starting around this age, I am working with my daughter to
develop her trust in her perceptions and intuitions about the safety or
danger of situations. This means that I want to be with her, have my
impressions of danger or safety, and discuss them with her. My goal is to
have her 1) recognize her intuition and 2) encourage her to act on her
intuition. This will serve her well when she is too old for me to
supervise her so closely. ( I had to learn to trust my intuition and act
on it as an adult, after some close calls). My other thought is that your
daughter may be quite aware of the discrepancy between you and your
husband's perception of safety. That might be worrisome to her since you
two are her "safety" she isn't really old enough to make up her own mind
about what is safe or not. Good Luck
There was a newspaper article not long ago about a mother being arrested
for child neglect for leaving her child (5 or 6 years old) with an older
sibling (9 years old?) while she made a quick trip to the grocery store.
So some police are clearly convinced that this is a safety issue.
Sounds like you are having a tough time, and I wish you the best of luck in
settling your differences.
FYI: It is ILLEGAL to leave children with other children (ie., your 4-year
old in the care of your 8 year old). Technically, you can't leave kids
alone with any person under 13 years old, I believe. Repeatedly doing this
could be grounds for having the children removed from your custody (though
it would be unlikely without a lot of other stuff going on, too). This was
in fact one of the pieces of evidence we used in winning custody of my
stepdaughter: Her mom used to leave her alone with her 10-year-old sister
at night, repeatedly. So this is not just a safety issue (which might be a
matter of opinion), but a legal issue as well.
You are not over reacting. Be very concerned and by all means try to scrape
up enough money for pre-school if that's what it'll take to keep your child
safe. My husband also cares for our 4 y/o son maybe twice a week but we've
set down very stern ground rules that works for all of us. It's better to
be extra safe. Too many bad things can happen, just read the newspaper.
It's scary for our children.
*Never let them go to the bathroom alone!
*8 y/o cousin is not responsible for the care of your child, it doesn't
matter if its for 15 minutes
*Husband should just learn to walk away from rude strangers, that just
makes him a stronger person
*Gym class should never have allowed your daughter to leave the building
Our 4 y/o may seem to be very intelligent persons but there're still babies
in their own way and its up to us as parents to protect them as best we can
with some common sense.
Forgive me if I am overstepping my bounds, but it sounds like these
'safety' problems are really of symptom of a much more serious issue your
husband is dealing with. I'm sure he loves his child, but the behavior you
describe sounds erratic, angry, self-absorbed, and irresponsible. It seems
like his impulses are overriding his responsibility to protect his
child...and why does he need to pursue confrontations with rude (unstable?)
strangers whether she's with him or not? Could he be struggling with anger,
depression, alcohol, or drugs? It sounds like he needs some help. In the
meantime, I would be reluctant to leave her in his care.
Let's face it, Dad used poor judgment regarding all of the things
listed, and Mom is correct to be concerned. A 4-year-old should not be
left at home, even during the day, with an 8-year-old. Indeed, I'm not
sure it's appropriate to leave an 8-year-old home alone for 45 minutes.
Letting the child go to the bathroom alone at the movies is not a great
thing to do, either, and is only acceptable if he waited outside the
door for her to make sure she was out in a reasonable time period. Mom
didn't mention why Dad felt these were okay things to do, but it's
likely that, deep down, he knows he was stupid and reacted to criticism
by getting defensive. I think, however, that it is important enough for
your daughter and husband to have this time together, that you all try
to think of some alternatives to full-time preschool, especially since
it will not help for your husband to be made to feel incompetent, which
I am sure he is not and that you don't trust him, which I guess you
don't. One thing you might consider is spending that money you want to
scrape together on a few counseling sessions, to see if you can reach
some resolution of this disagreement and reestablish an appropriate
level of trust and respect. It's just the kind of problem that is so
emotionally charged that a dispassionate third party can be invaluable.
This is a reply to the worried mother whose child's father is acting
irresponsibly, to say the least. You did not mention your living status,
married and living together, separated, divorced, so I don't know how
much work you're facing here. But your instincts are sound as far as
getting the child into a safe and responsible situation IMMEDIATELY.
Having been with a man who put his child's and my safety and happiness
about 8th on his list, I deeply empathize and urge you to take whatever
steps you can to take care of the child, first and foremost. That was my
mantra when going through my divorce, was what was best for my daughter.
That helps to scale down the mania/number of issues in your head, and
you then know that you're doing the right thing. Sometimes the battle of
wills with the spouse becomes the primary issue, and that only clouds
things. Arguing with him about his actions in the child's presence can
be very harmful also. That's why I brought up whether you live in the
If you can actually find the man "in the act" of endangering the child
and get on the phone to Child Protective Services or the police in
advance of entrapping him, he can be arrested on the spot. The
situations you describe are a little grey, and of course who wants to
risk the child's safety just to get him arrested, etc...it's a conundrum
Your work and personal life will undoubtedly be much better off once you
know that your child is safe. The savings in childcare costs are
negligible compared to the savings in stress on you and your child.
Before I bit the bullet and enrolled my daughter in daycare, I was
useless at work, spending 2/3 of the day on the phone "checking in". Not
to mention what kind of a person it turned me into, crying and freaking
out much of the time.
I wish you all the luck and strength in the world.
This is really an awful problem to have. I had to deal with something similar
myself. I don't really have any advice other than to have (yet another)
conversation with your partner/husband and encourage him to remember that BOTH
parents have to agree on how a child is to be cared for. There is no excuse
(in my estimation) for letting a child get into any kind of potentially
dangerous situation, no matter how fascinating the coffee-shop conversation
may be. Seems that maybe the two of you could use some mediation in this
situation, if that's at all a possibility.
I am sorry that you have had to deal with this issue, especially since there
is already anxiety about leaving your child at home anyway while you go back
to work. Nothing is ever simple in this life!
The main concerns you seem to have are about when he's not with her: she's
going into a bathroom alone, she's left with an 8-yr. old cousin for 45
mins.(!), she's not picked up on time and wanders out onto the sidewalk alone.
Yes, I'd be very concerned, too--it doesn't mean your husband is a "bad guy"
or "bad dad," but he obviously has very different ideas of what's safe for a
4-yr. old (and different from my ideas as well, I have to add). Perhaps he
hopes he can have a somewhat normal adult life while taking care of her at the
same time (I'm a stay-at-home mom, so I can really relate to this). If taking
care of her this much of the time is something relatively new that he's doing,
he may really not be "used" to how one's style gets cramped by having kids
(though, of course there are equal benefits). Maybe he'd be secretly relieved
not to have to deal with taking care of her; he could go to a coffeeshop and
not feel constrained to leave at a certain time. (Maybe he could work more to
help with the extra money needed for childcare?)
I'm very concerned about her safety with what you describe--and how terrible
he will feel if anything ever happens (not to mention, you). So I say, until
you can really work through these issues, and feel safe about him taking care
of her, come up with the extra money to put her in daycare those days. Maybe
they can have their special time together on the weekends, when he can really
attend to her needs (and meet his own at other times). Best of luck--
I don't think you're overreacting at all; on the contrary!
If my husband did even one of the things you mention, even
once, I'd be extremely upset. Any of those things could
potentially put your daughter's life in danger. Four years
old is much too young to go into a public bathroom alone.
A 9-year-old girl was killed in a public bathroom recently.
And an 8-year-old is not qualified as a babysitter. An
8-year-old boy and his younger brother died last year in a
fire they accidentally set in their own house while left alone.
Plus, being late to pick up your daughter because he got
involved in a CONVERSATION? It's unbelievable that he didn't
even have the shame to make up a plausible excuse like getting
stuck in traffic!
If he had only done one of these things once, and then
apologized profusely, you could chalk it up to a momentary
lapse and forget about it. But the pattern is scary,
especially since you imply that he argues with you that
you're overreacting. Please, don't wait until your
daughter's luck runs out. Don't EVER let this man stay
alone with your daughter.
I can only say that I was shocked when I heard your description of some of
the things your husband allows your 4 year old to do. Maybe your daughter
is mature for her age, but I would never, ever allow her to go in a
bathroom by herself, be cared for by an 8 year old alone (an eight year old
kid is not old enough to understand and assume the responsibility for a
small child), or be left alone after class. I would definitely enourage
you to try to get her in an environment where you know she will be safely
and responsibly cared for. For me, quite simply, these would have been
counseling or even divorce issues if they occurred with my husband.
My husband and I also have our disagreements about what is appropriate and
what is not. For example, he always wanted to pull our babies behind him
in a Burley trailer. I refused on the grounds that no matter how safely he
rode his bike, they would not be protected from other drivers on busy
Berkeley streets. Luckily, he has so far respected my safety standards.
Maybe I'm an extremist. But I think we live in a very complex world filled
with pitfalls and dangers. We may be old enough to understand them
ourselves, but we ask too much when we expect young children to be able to
I am sure that you will get alot of answers to the question of the father's
inattention to caring for his daughter, but I wanted to respond as well. I
have a mature, outgoing 4 year old daughter so I can speak from current
experience as to their ability to take care of themselves...I do not believe
that they can. My daughter goes with me into a public restroom, or gets
taken into the men's room with her father if I am not around (he carries
her so she is at adult height and keeps her attention occupied if other men
are using the urinals). I cannot imagine not picking up my daughter
promptly after her class to see how it went, converse with her, reassure her
that we are there and basically keep her secure. Most parents struggle to
be where they need to be promptly, but to cavalierly be in a coffee shop and
not remember is quite disturbing. I would also question a class in which
they allowed a 4 year old to stray out on a street by herself. Most places
have you sign the child in and out, or at least be released into a known
parents care. Many places charge $1 a minute, or $10 for 10 minutes or a
portion thereof simply to discourage parents from taking an extra 15 minutes
to pick up their child as enforced childcare. I also disagree with having
an 8 year old and a 4 year old left in a house unsupervised for up to 45
minutes...maybe if your husband was out in the garden or talking to a friend
on the street but not if he left the block.
I would get several parenting books and share a chapter at a time in a
non-threatening atmosphere to discuss these issues. I would also put my
daughter into supervised childcare for her safety and to relieve the stress
on my fear and on my relationship with my husband. I would also circle the
"horror" stories in the paper of children getting hurt or killed when they
are not properly supervised...there is at least one a week (a day?). Your
husband may not want the job of watching your daughter and he is
demonstrating it by doing a poor job in the hopes that you will come up with
a better solution...I would definitely get to that better solution for your
peace of mind. When time comes to go on vacation, you may need to do
something much cheaper because of the added financial strain of this
decision but it will be a pain absorbed by all instead of you maintaining
this justified fear yourself. Another solution (albeit far-fetched) would
be to enroll you daughter in a childcare co-op in which your husband could
fulfill the necessary volunteer hours watching the children in an enclosed
and supervised manner...maybe he loves playing with kids, doing art
projects, reading stories but doesn't like the responsibility of them. Or
he could fulfill those hours being the handyman, cook, or custodian at such
Good luck...I am sure you will get lots of responses on this topic.
Absolutely, you are NOT overreacting... the situations you described in
your message would give me absolute fits. If your only alternative is
putting your child in pre-school (i.e. if your husband just cannot "get it"
that these situations are unnecessarily risky and are foolishly putting
your daughter in harms way), then it sounds to me like preschool is the
answer -- at least for now. I hope that your husband CAN "get it" -- for
all sorts of obvious reasons, that'd be the ideal solution (it's such a
burden for you to feel like you're the only parent who can safely care for
your child)... but repeated episodes like this would really give me
pause... the guy needs to get a clue and fast.
I'll make it quick because someone already said this but I want to
emphasize that I know for a fact that it is ILLEGAL to leave a child in the
care of an 8 year old. Find the money for preschool.
You are not overreacting - a 4 year old should not be left alone,
especially outside the home, for any reason. An 8 year old is not old
enough to be left alone in a house, and certainly not as a babysitter.
If you can find and afford a good preschool, perhaps this is your best
At the same time, I am concerned that your husband is showing such poor
judgment. Perhaps he is just overly optimistic about his child's
maturity and the kindness of strangers, but you also state that he gets
into arguments with unstable people. Reading between the lines, I wonder
whether you are concerned about his behavior in general. My
sister-in-law also exhibited "poor judgment" in a number of situations
while caring for her three children, resulting in many trips to the
emergency room. We paid for a childproofer to come to their home, but
the accidents continued. We now know that she was drinking, smoking
dope, and popping pills, and her mental condition, which we thought was
just "irresponsible" and "self-centered" has now deteriorated to the
point that she has been hospitalized. She no longer even pretends to
take an interest in her children's well-being. I hope that things are
not so wrong with your husband, but it does sound like at the very least
you might need some marriage counseling. Please continue to keep your
child's safety as your first priority. Unfortunately my brother did not,
choosing instead to protect his wife while his children were hurt, both
emotionally and physically.
Best wishes to you in your caring for your child.
When I was a kid, I sometimes ended up in situations like those you
describe. My older siblings were often left to watch me, and I waited on
the street to get picked up from dance class. My circumstances were
better because I was older than your daughter. There were a few
incidents, but no permanent injuries. However, I was scared to death and
very lonely. It never objected, because I thought that's just the way
things were; instead I developed a (lifelong!) tough-gal demeanor.
Two years ago on the Clark Kerr campus, I encountered a weeping
10-year-old girl whose mother was late picking her up from gymnastics. I
found her teacher, the mom drove up a minute later, then I got in my car
and burst into tears.
Please spend the money for preschool!
Just to chime in on the topic of whether a 4 year old can correctly judge a
When my daughter was about 4, we had gone to Mr. Mopps and I was putting
the packages in the backseat of my two-door car, which was right outside
the store. My daughter was standing on the sidewalk waiting to get into
the car when I was finished with the packages. I turned around to help her
into the car, and she was drinking from a paper cup I hadn't given her! I
snatched it away from her and saw the contents appeared to be orange juice.
"Where did you get this?" I demanded. She replied, "Oh, that man gave it
to me," and pointed to a man who was already at the corner waiting to cross
I ran over to the man and started yelling at him. He was totally casual
about the situation. "It's just some orange juice I didn't want, so I gave
it to her," he said. I couldn't believe how naive he was! He actually had
the attitude that I was the odd one for getting so upset. And, of course,
my child took it without a qualm, even after all the times we had told her
not to take things from strangers. Luckily it was *just* orange juice. . .
I am the mom who originally posted the note on this subject. I want to
thank everyone for their responses and perhaps give some of you who
asked some more information.
First of all, starting today, I've enrolled my daughter in an extra day
of preschool a week (4 instead of 3) and arranged to work from home on
the fifth day. Your responses encouraged me to have more confidence in
what I believed was the right level of care for her and I REALLY
For those who asked - my husband and I are living together and have
availed ourselves of couples counseling (although we aren't currently
going) because of some of these differences. My husband truly doesn't
see the problem with some of these things, although he agrees with
others. For instance, he saw the folly in confronting, rather than
ignoring, the rudeness of a stranger, but didn't see what was so wrong
when he left our daughter with her 8 YO cousin. However, he's an honest
guy and keeps his promises. Therefore, when he agrees these things
won't happen again, I believe him. The problem is, I never know what
NEW instance will come up that I haven't forseen that might put my
daughter in danger. So needless to say, I'm much more comfortable with
my new childcare arrangements.
Something has been bothering me, though, about the responses. They all
seem to be from mothers. All are not identified, so I'm not certain,
but all that identified themselves said they were mothers. Were any of
the responses from men? What do other fathers think? I'd like to know
as would my husband. He's always let me make major decisions for our
daughter, so he's not objecting to the new arrangement, but he does feel
a little like he "failed" and would like to know how other men feel.
I'm the father of two kids -- seven and three. I read and agreed with
most of the responses posted on the digest, and saw no reason to fill
more space saying, "Yeah, me, too."
However, since you ask...
Both my kids are bright, engaging, and self-assured, but neither is
capable of handling the situations described in the original posting.
My kids don't go to the bathroom alone, are never cared for by other
kids, and are never, ever left alone on city streets. I just can't
imagine how a parent could let such a thing happen.
I get tired of being accosted on city streets, too, but I don't
engage in confrontations, with or without my kids. You can't argue
with the sort of person who gets in your face on the sidewalk. There's
just no way to win. The only time I've broken that rule was when an
overly-affectionate passerby stopped, talked to, and tried to hold
my older child. I interposed myself between them and got as physically
threatening as I needed to to stop the situation. This was an older
woman who likely meant no harm, but was astonishingly naive in trying
to touch a strange kid on the street.
I like to hang out in coffee bars, work odd hours, and concentrate on
stuff I enjoy. When it's time to take care of the kids, though, all
that stuff gets put away. You need to do the same thing. Mostly, this
is a reasonable world with decent people who care about one another.
Sometimes, though, it's not. You need to ask yourself: What if I
come back from the coffee shop, and my four-year-old is gone? You
don't even want to imagine what evil things could happen to her, or
how terrified she would be.
You're the guy who's in charge. You don't get to screw up.
When your post first came out I talked to my husband about it. He
agreed with me that those things were unacceptable. In fact he went
farther: he noted that leaving a 4-year-old alone with an 8-year-old
was illegal, and that the pattern of behavior described might be
called "child neglect" and cause the child to be taken from the
parents --which I hadn't thought of.
In response to the mother who originally posted the note below, I'd
like to give a father's perspective. My wife and I have an energetic
3 1/2 year old girl, with another one on the way. I take my daughter
to pre-school each morning, and pick her up one afternoon per week
where we usually go run errands afterward. Weekend mornings are
usually spent running errands, getting breakfast, feeding various
birds etc. while mom sleeps in. My wife and I travel separately 5-10
times per year on business trips so we both have to take turns
watching our kid for various periods of time. My wife and I
definitely have different styles of doing things, but when it comes to
common sense safety issues we're always "on the same page". I'd like
to say that I too agree that letting your child go into a public
bathroom alone is nuts, both for stranger abduction/molestation issues
but also bathrooms are usually filthy and you can't assume a young
child can keep herself/himself clean. I too thought that leaving your
child in the care of someone under ~13 years old was not legal, and
certainly not safe..., just watch the news! As for forgetting to pick
up the kid after gym class while she sat on the street sidewalk, I'm
sure the father sees the stupidity in that...., In our house that
would come close to grounds for a "trade in". BTW, did you show your
husband the responses?
This is a response for the mom who wanted fathers' ideas about safety
differences between husband and wife. I agree with your judgement
regarding the instances of unsafe behavior that you mentioned, and it
sounds as if you have found a solution that will work well. I want to
say, however, that the differences in understandings of safety needs
sound familiar. My wife is much more concerned about our two year old
than I am - that he will fall and cut his head, run into traffic,
smash into the sharp edge of the table etc. We almost always
compromise at or close to her comfort level, because while I don't see
the risk as significant I can understand that her worry is real, and I
will not suffer from our being overly protective for these kinds of
things. Where this will go as our son grows older and we start on
subjects where my feelings are stronger - at what age do you send your
child to get something from the neighbor/store/etc. in the interest of
challenging him is something I see looming - is unclear. I'm sure we
will always be more conservative than I would be alone. Perhaps that
is for the best; what is certain is that the differences in levels of
worry and concern which you describe between yourself and your husband
are not surprising to me. It sounds like you've found a solution
which works well for you both withour rancour. Congratulations.
I'm a father who noticed the original posting and hesitated to reply,
because my first, second, and third impulses were just to take the guy
apart, and I thought there would be plenty of others ready to do that
without my help. I'm glad to see that your husband is reasonable, honest,
and intent on mending his ways.
On a more moderate note, there's room for disagreement on what's safe. We
won't let our 15-year-old daughter walk alone at night, or our 9-year-old
son walk alone just about any time--but we're bringing them up right next
to a major seismic hazard, so our commitment to safety could be reasonably
called into question. Similarly, the wisdom or folly of leaving the kid
with an 8-year-old (I wouldn't do it) would depend to a degree on the
8-year-old (I've known some who were more dependable than some
18-year-olds), how long s/he was left in charge, what backup was available,
and what the alternatives were.
If your husband feels like he's failed, and your kid's already four years
old, I simultaneously hope it's not the first time he's felt that way, and
hope he's not beating himself up too badly. Kids don't come with
instructions. Parents make mistakes. You try to avoid the catastrophic
ones, and learn from the rest (which implies that you notice yourself
As far as safety goes, I favor erring on the side of paranoia. If I had to
choose, I'd rather have a kid who had to be walked across the street to
register for college than a kid with a lovely tombstone.
I'm a father who didn't respond, in large part because I'm really busy
right now, but also because I had mixed feelings about the whole thing and
wanted to see how others responded.
As a now very experienced dad, I agree with the general consensus of the
posts, but not the level of hysteria in some, which only reflects the
absurd level of hysteria in our society that is simply not supported by the
truly infrequent occurrence of kidnapping and/or molestation by strangers
(the overwhelming majority of child abduction cases are by estranged
parents and most molestation cases are by family or friends of the family).
Of course if it's your kid that it happens to, statistical infrequency
doesn't matter, but I don't see these people who are so panicked about
strangers and public bathrooms not driving their kids around in cars . . .
That said, I do still agree that the father was displaying a fairly
careless attitude that his childrearing partner should certainly be calling
him on, with one exception. It was the school/program that made the
grievous error in letting your kid wander out to the sidewalk, not your
husband for being late. True, he shouldn't have been late, but he's still
not the one who put your daughter at risk and in that one case really
shouldn't be the object of your main complaint.
Also, despite your husband's mistakes, I fully empathize with him because I
know I screwed up in ways I didn't have a clue were screw-ups when I was a
more inexperienced dad (not to say that I don't still screw up now, but at
least I tend to recognize it pretty instantly). When this happened, I felt
really crappy and was very defensive about it because I knew I was trying
very hard to be a good and responsible dad. Men in this society tend not
to be as well-versed as women when first starting on how to go about being
a parent (and with an only or eldest child, you are always a new parent for
that age). We can learn, but typically we are starting with far less
understanding and forethought than women have of what it takes to be a
parent and what kids need emotionally and physically. Plus, to make it
worse, we have our damn male pride about being right, even about things we
know nothing about.
Fathers & kids might be better served by men attending broader-focused
parenting classes instead of birthing classes, where in large part men's
attendance only fosters the false illusion that someone as inexperienced as
the new mother can be anything more than emotional support in a first
delivery. And boys need to be raised more aware of parenting by bringing
them more into the care of siblings, encouraging family role playing games,
and continuing to discuss parenting issues with them even after they've
grown but not yet had kids. Mothers & grown daughters will fairly
typically discuss child rearing issues even if no grandchildren are even
yet on the horizon, yet we men tend to not talk to our sons about what it's
like to be a parent until they've actually got a crying kid in their hands.
Given your husband's denial of his inattentiveness to your child's safety,
I think you had no choice but to opt for other care. I would suggest,
however, that you try to be kind about his inexperience rather than
critical, and that you continue to allow situations where he is responsible
for your daughter on his own. He's never going to learn otherwise and your
daughter will be the poorer for never having had times alone with dad.
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