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May 2007
Hi--pls. tell me if I'm being paranoid or if this is a real cause
of concern. I have a 10-month old son who has always been in the
5-15th percentile for height and weight. My husband and I are
both Asian and petite(I'm 5'0'' and he's 5'7'') so this is only to
be expected. However at his 9 month check-up, my son weighed
only 16.5 lbs.(5th percentile) and measured 25.5''(NOT even on the
curve). Since his 6 month check, he only gained 2 lbs and an
inch(I think). His pediatrician is unconcerned, saying my son
looks well-nourished(I agree).
I try not to think about this too much--my son is hitting all his
developmental milestones, is a happy and active baby and a good
eater but there are days when I worry about whether or not he is
growing enough and if there is anything more I should be doing.
Is my pediatrician right? Will my son eventually catch up with
his peers? I don't want to give my son a complex about his
height and I'm afraid all my worrying will do just that. But I'm
also afraid of not worrying enough about something which maybe I
really should be worried about. Advice from other moms with
petite babies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
concerned mama
So I had to laugh because I had the same concerns. My son
didn't pass 20 lbs until over 16 months old! Our pediatrician
told me that the curve was established some years ago by taking
the measurments from caucasian children from Wisconson. There
was no variance in ethnicity or culture in the measured group.
Whether that's true or not, the best measurement is that he
looks healthy and is hitting his milestones. And to be frank,
his low weight will save your back a lot of trauma! At age
three our son is pretty much the same height and weight as his
friends who were ''pudgier'' as babies. It all evens out.
sujata
Wow. Your post could've been written word-for-word by me and my wife a
few
years ago. We are both Asian, almost identical in height to you two, and
have a son
who has been below the charts (under 3rd percentile) in weight and
height since he
was one-month old. In fact, he was even smaller than your child at 9
months. We
have had numerous doctor visits including regular visits with an
endocrinologist,
and the bottom line is that he is (and always was) just fine. Our
endocrinologist's
advice was always that if he looks fine and is developing properly, he's
fine. That is,
it is possible to be off the charts without actually having any growth
problem. Since
low weight/height is sometimes an indication of problems, doctors just
automatically take note of kids under the curve, but that doesn't mean
they
automatically have a problem. Indeed, our endocrinologist tells us that
many
children with real growth problems exhibit some pretty obvious
proportional defect
such as abnormally small head, exceptionally thick torso, etc. Anyway,
to keep this
short, we never really did anything special other than feed him normal,
healthy
meals. Now, at 2 years and 3 months, he has undergone a growth spurt
that has put
him on the charts without any manipulation by us. And, he's always been
far ahead
of the curve in terms of language and behavioral development. My advice
is to make
sure you get all your answers from the doctors, but don't spend too much
energy
worrying about it. I'm sure your boy will grow to be as wonderful as
ours.
rl
My wife asked that I respond to this posting for I am a short
man, but have never thought of myself as ''small''. My children,
likewise, have always been low on the curve but i have never
thought of them, or treated them, as if they were small. I
guess my point is that even with a short stature, one can feel
quite big in the world, as I do (thriving company, successful
marriage, large network of devoted friends, etc). I do imagine
this has been in part due to my parents never making my height
an issue, as it's never been an issue for me in relating to my
kids. Your child seems to be thriving - size will not likely
be much of an issue for him if it is not for you . . .
''Big'' Man
I wouldn't be concerned, but you can always get a second opinion. At 9
months, my
Asian girl was 16.5# and 26.5''. She is normal, and has always profiled
as 25% on
height, and 50% on weight. She is all muscle, which weighs more than
fat. She has
always been strong, but had the normal (not the typical doughy look that
fat kids
have) amount of baby padding...so sweet! At 9, she has a slim torso
(''six packs'')
and muscular legs and arms. I feed her whole, mostly homemade food (a
lot of
variety, not the usual ''my kid only eats blah, blah''). We allow her
to have sugar junk
once or twice a week in moderation so she doesn't fetishize the stuff.
She is active
when appropriate, and swims twice a week. She and one boy do the most
push ups
in her class (33+). She doesn't watch more than 2hrs of TV a week. If
you follow
similar healthy guidelines, you will start to notice that ''By Golly!''
there are a lot of
bulky, fatty and sedentary kids. Yours won't be one of them. Good
luck.
anon
My DD was not on the curve for weight either; she was for
height. Our ped was also not concerned since other milestones
were easily being met. At 2 years she finally made it on the
chart for weight, I think it was 25%. She's thriving regardless
of size so we ignore it.
happy with a wee one
Hi There,
My 9 month old was 16.1 lbs at her appointment. Although I am
worried, she does eat and is reaching all of milestones as well.
She is extremely active and playful also. The way my doc
explains it is to take a look around the world and realize that
there are people of all different shapes and sizes that are the
same age. She is not at all concerned and just said to add some
fats to her meals. Although as mothers we will always find
something to worry about, Im worrying a bit less about this and
just starting to accept that she is a petite baby. I dont know
if this helped at all, but feel free to email me if you want
someone who understands and is in the same boat as you to vent to.
mina
Dont worry, both of my girls are/were in the same situation. We
are also Asian and not on the tall side- I claim to be 5'1 and
my husband claims to be 5'6. Both girls had different
pediatricians at one time and both doctors say that there's
nothing to worry about since these percentile charts were based
on Nordic standards, Midwestern babies researched durring the
70s. Just as long as there is progress, no matter how
incremental, your child will be fine. Maybe we need to find
these percentile charts from Asia. That would be interesting.
kay
I completely emphathize with your situation. My 10-month old son, too,
was small
at birth (10-25th percentile) and has dropped to roughly the 5th
percentile. At his 9
month check-up, he weighed 16lbs 9oz and was 26.5'' in height. I weighed
him at
over 10 months, and he had only gained 1/2 pound since his last check-up
1 1/2
months ago, thereby at 17lbs falling below the 5th percentile. At every
check-up
I've been concerned about his weight and height (more his weight, but
concerned
nonetheless), and every time his pediatrician has not expressed concern,
saying that
he looks and acts healthy and happy, he's meeting every developmental
milestone,
and the curve is no indication as to his final height/weight. My husband
is 5'10'' and
I'm 5'8'', so the last thing I expected was an incredibly petite baby.
But according to
the pediatrician, it's based on his genetic patterning/make-up, but
there's no
reason to be concerned.
I am doing the only thing I can be doing - giving him a well-balanced
diet, and I've
begun to emphasize proteins and fats more. I'm actually counting
calories to see
where he can get more protein/fat 'bang for the buck' so to speak. It
doesn't sound
like that was a concern for you, but I'm resolved to watch his diet even
more closely
than before.
It is disconcerting to say the least, and it's hard to put aside my
concerns. I work
hard at reminding myself that he's healthy (apparently!) and meeting all
milestones
and looks like one incredibly happy baby.... and leave it at that.
I understand how you feel - feel free to email if you'd like.
Hope that helps!
Claudia
Has your baby been evalutated for human growth hormone deficiency?
''Well nourished'' is not a satifactory answer. Has you gone to a
specialist for a skeletal and metabolic evaluation to see if
there is something going on behing the scenes? Kaiser has a
skeletal dysplasia clinic, as does Children's Hospital Oakland.
There are some genetic reasons for this short size - check out
www.lpaonline.org for more info.
Concerned, too
Hi, Concerned Mama. I can totally identify with your feelings, as
I've been going through the same thing with a petite baby. I,
too, was also afraid that all my worrying give my baby a complex.
So I just decided to do some reading about baby nutrition, and
took action. I recommend the book ''Nourishing Traditions'' by
Sally Fallon and this website
http://www.westonaprice.org/children/index.html.
If you are breastfeeding, can you increase the number of times
your son nurses? If not, then (as long as he's not allergic) you
can supplement with formula that you fortify with cod liver oil
and egg yolk--see the recipe on this page:
http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.html
You said your son is happy, active, a good eater and developing
well, so that's great. It's a good sign. Personally, I've tried
lots of recipes from baby cookbooks. There are some good recipes
in the archives on BPN. Other advice I've gotten is to add butter
or oil to everything, and maple syrup or honey. My baby likes
yogurt, cheddar cheese, cream cheese, avocado, egg yolk, pureed
sweet potatoes with lots of coconut oil or butter. I'm working on
the pureed meat and salmon but it's often gotten rejected, so I
just offer again next mealtime without pressure. I read that as
long as they get a mixed and well-rounded diet, not to worry
about them rejecting this or that particular food. After reading
chapters on nutrition in the book ''Your Baby and Child'' by
Penelope Leach, I felt better.
If you are still afraid of ''not worrying enough about something
which maybe you really should be worried about'' (I totally get
this) try having your child tested for food allergies, or even
talking to a registered dietitian who works with a
gastro-intestinal doctor. They can allay your fears, or help with
recommendations either way.
anon
Feb 2007
I put a request in for advice already about my 13 month old who hasn't gained weight
in three months and who has frequent and loose stools. I am now also looking for
advice on a nutritionalist and a pediatrician who might be willing to give a second
opinion (some doctor's won't see you unless your kid is a patient already.)
Jessica
I highly recommend John Nieters, Licensed Acupuncturist for nutritional advice. He has
taught Eastern and Western nutrition and has great pediatric herbal children's formulas. His
nutritional consults are in depth and he is very supportive. His office is in Alameda
510-814-6900, www.johnnieters.com
A great pediatricion for a second opinion is Dr Karin Schiffman 510-845-0400 she is in
Berkeley.
Both Karin and John truly care about their patients and you never feel rushed when you are
with them.
Jen W
Feb 2007
My baby is 7.5 months and 14 lbs,i worry alot,i know i should'nt
be stressing about it,but the thing is that he just does'nt seem
very fond of food.
He had started eating rice cereal,bananas,beans pretty well at 6
months( 4 months we had'nt had much luck either),but then he
fell sick in the middle,and now all the progress that we had
done,seems to have fallen through.He totally clamps his mouth
shut,or turns his head side to side. I have caught myself trying
to even pry his mouth open with the spoon,which i know is
wrong,what do i do?? I sometimes sit there crying ,feeling so
frustrated.I see cousins his age ,who are so fat and chubby, and
then start comparing. I think i should be the one seeing a
doctor :)
I know that he can eat, so am baffled as to what to try. I've
tried feeding him on the bouncer,high chair,cold, warm cereal,
peas, bananas,rice..Is his weight normal?? Paedtrician does not
seem concerned..
Anyone in the same boat as me??
Stressed mom
Hello stressed mom,
I just want to share a couple of things I have learned as a first time
father (we have a 14 month old daughter). First of all, baby's go
through phases - sometimes they eat like a brick layer, sometimes almost
nothing. I understand your concern as I have felt it myself, but I
assure you it is perfectly normal for their food intake to fluctuate.
Second, 14 lbs for a 7.5 month old baby is perfectly normal. If you
still worry I recommend seeing a doctor. They have tables of the
correlation between normal weight and height and I'm sure you'll find
that your baby is doing just fine. Our girl is tall and slender. We
worried at one point if she was gaining enough weight. We went to see
the doctor and everything was fine. No, it was perfect. She's just a
tall, slender girl that's all.
One thing I noticed; you're feeding your baby banana. We had a problem
with our girl getting congested from eating banana, which incidentally
made her eat less until we fed her prune-mush and cleared the system.
Maybe your baby doesn't have problems with bananas, but I wanted to
mention it.
Good luck!
Martin
At that age your baby should be getting all of his calories from
breastmilk and/or formula. It's perfectly normal for him to not be
interested in solid food at all. If he is skinny maybe he needs more
breastmilk or formula, but if his doctor is not concerned I wouldn't
worry. Is his weight consistently in the same percentile as it used to
be? In other words, if he's always been in the bottom 10% for weight,
then it is normal for him to remain in the bottom 10%, but if he used to
be in the 75% and has now fallen to the 10% then I would be worried.
anon
I am in a similar situation. My 6.5 month old daughter weighs just shy
of 13 pounds and I definitely go through my moods where I compare her to
the rounder babies ad wonder whether something is wrong. We ended up
starting her on solid foods quite early (4
months) to try to fatten her up a bit. What we later learned from our
doctor was that the prepared baby foods are quite low in calories but
extremely filling, so she did not end up gaining any weigh as we had
hoped. Her belly was brimming with the new food so she would nurse less,
but the breatmilk would have had more calories... Our doctor is not
concerned. She said as long as our daughter is reaching developmental
milestones (rolling, etc.) that it just wasn't that big a deal. Those
weight charts can really trip you up. All they really seem to mean is
that if you lined up 100 babies in order of size, our would be near the
front of the line. I would definitely discourage you from getting into
any power struggles with your son over food. You want him to grow up
enjoying food and looking forward to trying new things. I know it is
easier said than done, but if you know in your heart that he is healthy
and strong, try to relax a little and enjoy the fact that we can carry
our babies around for that much longer without killing our backs.
Kellie
My son was very similar in that he lost weight as he moved to solids and
that he really, really disliked food for a long time.
One thing I learned is that breast milk and formula have a higher
calorie content than food, so it is not unusual for a baby to stop
gaining or even lose some weight as he moves to a solid food diet. How
does the saying go? ''Food is just for fun until one year of age.''
Something like that. As long as milk intake is good, don't worry too
much about the food, at least for the first year.
The other very hard lesson I had to learn was to let food go. I came to
this after months of crying at every meal with him. The BPN archives
have great advice on this topic. My version: don't force food into your
baby, don't insist on being the one to feed him, and don't make him stay
clean. I found that trying to do so made the problem worse rather than
better. As the stress level rose, each meal became worse and worse.
Instead, put a bowl of food in front of him, a plastic sheet on the
floor if necessary, and let him play. Can he self-feed? Even shove a
hand in a bowl of cereal and lick it off? Let him try. He may distrust
the situation for a while (my son did), but eventually he will relax
again. If he screams and cries, get him out of the chair and try again
later, or not until the next meal. Your child won't starve himself.
Only now, at 13 months, is my son beginning to try a variety of foods
willingly, and even then only if he is in a good mood. He didn't eat
dinner tonight, and that's okay with me.
It still upsets me to think about how much time we lost fighting over
meals, how much stress we created, and how much pain we both went
through. It's just not worth it. Relax. Expose your son to food, let him
learn how it feels in his hands, and occasionally how it tastes in his
mouth. It will get better.
learned to relax about food
Google search: NCHS growth charts. Click on clinical growth charts.
Scroll down to birth to 36 months- Boys color PDF.If he weighs as much
as you say he does, he would be slightly underweight according to the
charts.Talk to the doctor and let them know how concerned you are.
anon
i, too, have a very light baby (around the 5th percentile) and have
worried at times but realize that some babies either just eat less or
weigh less. the pediatrician isn't concerned so i try not to be either.
does the baby have wet and poopy diapers? seem healthy otherwise? have
energy?
i wouldn't force baby to eat and i would just try different things to
see if anything appeals.
if you trust your doctor and they are not worried please try not to be
either!
anon
My son was a very picky eater, which would totally stress me out. I did
a lot of research and reading on it and here's a summary of some of the
things I found out:
- Six months is a rough guideline for introducing solids. Some kids are
ready earlier, some later. Also, at your son's age he should be getting
most of his nutrients and calories from breast milk/forumla still. Have
you looked at the nutritional value of rice cereal? There's barely any
calories. At 6 -7 months rice cereal is more to get them used to the
concept of eating solids, of exploring textures and tastes.
- Babies are animals with natural instincts. They eat when hungry and
will usually stop eating when full. They learn bad eating habits from
us, such as eating when you're not hungry, and as they get older they
know it's a weak spot for us. Like kids who won't eat so a parent will
break down and give them a cookie, just to get something in their
stomachs. That's the start of a bad cycle. My son would sometimes go a
couple of days refusing just about all food. I would keep offering him
stuff w/ out any pressure and would leave stuff sitting out for him to
graze on if he wanted. It was EXTREMELY hard not to break down and just
give him something not so healthy just to get him to eat something. I'm
glad I didn't do that. He is now
4.5 yrs and is very good at eating until he's satisfied; give him a
piece of cake or ice cream and if he's full, he won't finish it. He has
very healthy eating habits.
- If your pediatrician isn't worried, you shouldn't be.
- Toddlers are often way too busy playing to want to take time out to
eat. And they use so much energy playing and growing. So until age 2
it's important that they have a diet high in fat in order to get enough
calories. My pediatrician gave an example of looking at a gram of fat
and a gram of proteien, the fat will have way more calories.
Don't stress, your son will just pick up on that.
Momma of an ex-picky eater
AS a naturaopathic doctor mother .I would not stress.I would try to
keep any foods to single food not rotate at this age .Is your child
breast feeding ?? how many calories are you consuming and any fishoils
,garlic encourage s infants to nurse longerThatis the ultimate food at
this age my 1st daughter was only 18 lbs At 1 year and remains a petit 3
yo at 27 lbs.and is the brightest in her class youcould call me.
be well
Analisa
Don't worry! I bet that you're going to get lots of reassurance on
this. This sounds very very familiar. I introduced solids to my son at
6 months and he basically refused them for at least 2 months, then
slowly accepted a few things, but still seemed to be eating almost
nothing. That gradually changed, and he ate more, but would still often
refuse an entire meal (turning his head clamping his mouth shut). It's
definately frustrating and scary as a parent, but if your pediatrician
isn't worried, then try not to worry yourself. My son is small too--has
been in the 10th percentile since he was born, and still is at one year,
but my pediatrician said ''somebody's got to be in the 10th
percentile!'' Also, at 7.5 months, most babies are still getting the
majority of their food from milk or formula so the solid food is just
practice--probably your son, like mine just isn't ready or interested
yet. Keep offering, but don't force it-- he'll catch on eventually.
And I bet he's doing fine on his own growth trajectory. Letting him
decide when he's ready to eat can start good eating habits now.
I know exactly how your feeling, so hang in there and know that it will
get better, especially if you can let go of some of the worry!
M other of another food refuser
Dear Stressed Out Mom,
For the record, I hate postpartum hormones. They cloud judgement and
make like not so fun. You have my sympathy.
If you're worried about baby's weight, and your pediatrician isn't, get
a second pediatrician opinion and set aside lots of couch nursing time
(or offer the recommended formula amount), and get a great book on
different yummy baby foods to make.
If two pediatricians are not worried (i.e. perhaps the adults in your
family are small.... - I WISH my child had been a whopping 14 pounds at
7 months), then take a deep breath, take a walk in the sun, and put in
writing your blessings. Perhaps the first could be that 2 pediatricians
are not worried about any of your baby's developmental milestones (are
you worried about development, or only weight?).
Take care.
mom of 2 little chefs
I'm sure you'll get lots of reassuring responses to this post, but I
thought I'd add mine in, too. Our daughter is 16 months old, and is not
even 20 pounds yet. She barely registers on the weight charts... bottom
5%. She's active, and skinny, and very very healthy. Our pediatrician
is totally unconcerned, and after a few phases of worrying, we aren't
either. Some kids are just small and thin and that's just fine. All
that being said, I would make sure that you're approaching feeding in a
healthy way. It sounds like it's really stressing you out, and your
approach may begin to stress your child out too.
I suggest you read ''Child of Mine'' by Ellyn Satter. It's a really
great resource, and has made all of the difference in our approach to
feeding our child. One of her key pieces of advice to parents is to...
''just mellow out.'' The book is long and kind of hard to read, but the
essential messages are great. Good luck! Don't worry!
Satter fan
Hi,
first of all, I want to say that you are not alone. I too was very
worried about my 6.5 month old and her weight gain since the very
beginning. She is a fussy eater and is so much smaller than other
babies her age. She is also in the 14lb range. I have come to realize
though that every baby is different and its really ok. They will follow
their own path. Despite being tiny, she is crawling around and
slithering and very inquisitive. She smiles and laughs alot, and is
generally happy. Therefore, I figure its ok. Talk to you doctor and do
what he or she recommends as far as feeding. One of the things my doc
told me to help calm me initially is to look at adults, --there are
people of all shapes and sizes in the world---babies are the same way.
Hope this helps.....
mina
It's perfectly normal for a 7-month-old not to eat solid foods at ALL.
And even babies who do like solids should still be getting almost all of
their nutrition from breastmilk (or
formula) at that age. I have one child who age solids eagerly from the
first day, at 6 months, and continued to eat pretty much anything all
through his toddler and preschool years, and one who refused to have
much of anything to do with solid foods until 10 months and is still a
very picky eater. They're both totally healthy.
Weight loss or slow weight gain is also not a big deal when it's for an
obvious reason, like an illness, or increased activity level when a baby
learns to crawl or walk. If your baby's doctor is not concerned, you
almost certainly should not be.
Some babies are kinda chubby, others are long-n-lean, either can be
healthy and normal. It's not about how many pounds the baby weighs at a
given age, it's whether he is growing at a reasonable rate. Every baby
has a somewhat different curve.
Make sure your baby is still nursing, or consuming bottles, at about his
former level and producing plenty of wet diapers. And continue to offer
solid foods at family mealtimes, but don't push. He'll eat 'em when
he's ready.
Holly
i was amazed when my daughter was born at my biological NEED to see my
child consume food ALL DAY LONG. i could not relax unless my child was
eating. all the time. tons of food. and my child was never low end of
the weight charts. i think what you are experiencing is a completely
normal concern.
that being said, during one of my (very 'rational' and sane) kvetch
sessions about my child not consuming much food (and i think she was
rather sick at the time), my mother told me a story about taking me as a
toddler to the pediatrician because i 'wasn't eating.' the
pediatrician's response was something like that last he had checked
there were no children in this county dying of starvation.
i really liked the book 'super baby food.' i learned how to offer my
child a healthy balanced diet from the beginning. there were many
interesting topics to read about diet and eating issues. and some of it
i definitely skipped over. but it gave me a guideline to believe i was
heading in the right direction and everything would fall in place. even
on the days my daughter refused to eat.
if your baby is giving you a big smile that lights up your life, you are
doing a lot of things right.
i want MEAT!
June 2006
My 4 month old son weighs only 10lbs, 12oz(24 inches long),
which is only about 8 or 9 oz more than what he weighed at 2
months old. We are working with a doctor and lactation
consultants (l.c.)since his weight gain has been a problem from
the start. He was born at 7lbs, 14oz, all natural birth and
latched on perfectly within 5 minutes of being born. The l.c.
says I have good milk supply, he latches on well, and seems to
get a lot of milk. We are mystified. At about 4 to 5 weeks of
age, after working with an l.c. to help him gain weight and
being unsuccessful, on the l.c's advice, we switched over to
formula exclusively for a couple of days. He gained weight and
we weaned him off formula, back to breast milk exclusively.
Developmentally, he is ahead of the game (according to
pediatrician), grabs things, rolls extensively (he rolled at
about 2 months), coos, smiles, giggles and generally shows no
signs of being unhappy or underfed! He is starting to teeth
early, which does make him cry more than usual. He is a
marathon feeder and I often have to limit him to 20 minutes at
each breast. I feed him every 1 to 3 hours except at night when
he sleeps from around 9pm to between 3am and 4am and then back
asleep until about 7:30am. I have checked with babysitter
(comes about 8 hours/week) and husband, and they agree with my
perception that I feed him very, very often. Until I see the
pediatrician again this week, we are trying: nightime feeding
to be 8 oz. formula,take away pacifier,in the care of Dad or
babysitter, supplement with formula as needed if run out of
expressed breast milk. My other problem is that I only pump
around 2.5 oz at a time and my breast milk goes bad in the
freezer. I am crying a lot trying to figure this out and
feeling anxious about breast feeding: is he gettting enough,
should we just give him formula freely, will I mess up
breastfeeding since it is supply and demand, etc. I don't want
to be rigid about breastfeeding, the goal is for my baby to
gain weight. Any advice or similar stories? Any babies who
were this small at 4 months?
K
Dear mom of a small four month old: Please don't worry about
your son, it sounds as if he is developing very well, hitting
all the milestones, and that he is a wonderful little boy. My
guess is that he is more physically agile and able than many of
his more weighty age-peers. Our daughter was born at 7#4oz, and
at four months was not yet 10#. We were really concerned and
celebrated grams with little jigs. I wanted to exclusively
breastfeed, our lactation consultant emphasized BM was the BEST
thing for my baby. I internalized to mean that BM only was the
only ''responsible'' thing I could do for my baby.
My father-in-law is a very respected pediatrician in his
community, where he has practiced for 50 years. This is what he
told me with respect to growth curves: Rate of weight gain (and
other growth indicators) is the key, not the amount. As long as
she was at 10% or above she should be fine and small is OK. As
long as growth curve ratios remained stable and in-sync with
one another (10% for height, weight and head circumference) and
did not slip out of sync (for example if her weight gain
suddenly outstripped her height), or she did not suddenly shoot
up in her total percentile (from 10% to 25% in three weeks,
for example), she was OK. It would be good but not necessary
for her to slowly move from a lower to a higher growth curve
ratio. It was ok for her to fluctuate slightly between curves
(btw 10 and 15%), it was not good if she sank below 10% at any
time, nor for her to swing around on the growth curve. He
mentioned that the growth curve that is in use came out of the
1960s studies in the Midwest, and that it is based on formula
fed Caucasian (Scandinavian) American babies, and it therefore
is an inflated curve when compared to babies who are not white,
American, or formula fed (formula fed babies commonly gain more
weight more quickly). I think the WHO has recently produced
revised infant growth curve charts.
sara
My long message, Part 2:
FIL reminded me that breast milk is best, but that as long as
she was getting some breast milk every day she would be OK. If
there was legitimate concern about the RATE of her weight gain,
her diet should be supplemented with formula. He suggested we
use LIPEL low birth weight formula. (I think that is how you
spell it) So we did that, which was good for us as a family in
many ways it freed me from the boob (though I pumped too),
allowed my husband to feed her - relief for me and bonding for
them, got her used to the bottle and to formula, and better
prepared her to start day-care at 5 months.
FIL mentioned that she would gain weight at a slightly faster
rate when she started eating solid food (6 1/2 months), which
was true. BTW, she has become less interested in breastfeeding
since she started eating solid food. I started my period at her
7 mo mark, and that seems to have decreased my milk supply as
well I now pump 1-2 times a day for a total of 7liquid oz on a
good day; and she nurses about two to three times a day as
well. She is now nine months old and has FINALLY doubled her
birth weight and then some... 16#8oz. (25%!) She is in daycare,
and I am surprised by how petite she is compared to the other
babies her age. She is growing, she's bright, curious, funny,
very physically active and adept (standing with support &trying
to balance without support), and very verbally curious. She is
still small, but she is MIGHTY. It sounds like your little boy
is the same. a wee and wonderful kid.
sara
Hi, I'm sorry you're going thru this.
My first baby also had trouble gaining weight and it was because
I wasn't producing enough milk. He did not gain any weight at
all for the first month. I was in total denial b/c I so wanted
to exclusively breastfeed him but my peditrician told me that
the most important thing for babies was to gain weight.
Otherwise, there could be lasting impacts on his development.
What I ended up doing was to supplement each breastfeeding
session with formula. Like you, I was only producing 2-3 ounces
and so would also give him a bottle of 4 ounces of formula. I
had bottles prepared in the fridge and would warm them up in hot
water as I was breastfeeding. He gained weight immediately and
is now a healthy 3.5 yr old. With my 2nd baby, I didn't have any
issues with milk production at all. The fact that your baby
gained weight immediately while on formula may an indication
that you're not producing enough. And while I too was
heartbroken about it in the beginning, the most important thing
to me was that my baby was healthy. Afterall, I was formula-fed
and I'm doing ok. Breast-feeding is natural but it isn't perfect
and just thank-goodness there are other ways to ensure our
baby's survival
Amy
My son was about that size when he was four months old, and he is
still small now at 11 months. It is really nerve wracking, and I
know exactly how you feel, especially the concern about whether
your breast milk is the culprit. But I decided to stick with
breast feeding, and I'm sure many others will advise you the
same. Isn't the goal for your baby to be HEALTHY, not just to
meet some statistical average? If he's doing well
developmentally, and isn't crying all the time, really and truly,
as hard as it seems, don't worry about it.
But I did want to give you two tips. First off, you might try
just letting him completely drain one breast at each feeding,
rather than breaking him off of one breast in order to offer the
other in the same feeding. The fattiest milk is usually the
stuff left at the end, so it is good to let him get as much as he
can from one breast, and then just start the next feeding with
the other one two hours later, or whatever.
The other tip is about introducing solid foods. I didn't realize
just how much less fat and calories are in solid foods than in
breast milk (or formula). Around 4 to 6 months is when people
generally introduce solids, and so we did that at about 4 1/2
months. Well, at his 5 month check up, my son's weight had
dropped down to the 5th procentile (from the 10th). So, in
retrospect, I probably should have waited on offering any solids,
or offered only really fatty stuff (like whole milk yogurt - I
recommend Trader Joes natural yogurt over Yo Baby). Avocados
would also be OK, but try to avoid carrots or things like that.
Rice cereal has plenty of carbs, but no fat, so unless you add
fat to it (like with flax seed oil) your baby won't be maximizing
the calories.
Anyhow, this is something you'll struggle with for the next year,
probably, and if you are anything like me, you'll look at all the
other chubby babies and wonder what the difference is. But you
can try to take comfort in knowing that in a country of
overweight people, being naturally thin probably isn't so bad.
And then there is the bonus of actually getting to use all the
baby clothes you have, since he won't outgrow them so fast!
Mom of a ''Mick Jagger'' baby
My baby is also in the below 5th %ile for weight. Is your pediatrician
concerned? Mine
was not as my baby just is on a petite growth curve. If your baby is
healthy I think you
should just continue the breastfeeding plus supplementation with formula.
If you are
still worried call the advice nurse for your doctor's office/hospital and
ask if it would be
ok to start solids (cereal). ps my baby nursed every two hours all day
long until at least
six months old and was still skinny as a rail
little baby's mom
When I read your post, I was reminded so much about my daughter at that
age, who
was also was born at average weight but put on weight slowly in the first
year. I can
happily tell you that she's now a 20 month toddler who's weight is FINALLY
on the
growth chart. My advice to you is that there are really two possible
scenarios:most
likely this may just be your child normal growth pattern, but there is
always a small
possibility that your child is having some type of problem that you can
watch for.
What we did to answer this question was 1) watch the stools for
''greasiness''- this
can be a sign that the child is not properly digesting nutrients 2)
continue
breastfeeding- I know it's hard to feel confident about this but it's
probably
providing exactly what the baby needs, 3) look for ONGOING signs of low
energy or
unhappiness- it sounds from your post like you have a very happy and
maturing
child 4) take the baby to the pediatrician more frequently than normal,
just for
healthy check ups and weigh ins- our ped happily saw us once a month for
most of
the first year. If your ped won't do it, consider finding another. This
is also a good
time to start discussing solids, although you probably won't start that
until
somewhere around 6 months.
These are the things that worked for us, and it turned out that our
daughter was
just a petite person, but she is developmentally and physically perfectly
healthy. I
can't tell you not to worry, because sometimes you will, but hopefully
reading the
things we've done for our child will help you with yours! Good luck!
mom of lil' one
First of all, relax. The baby sounds just fine. Weight is not
everything and the fact that milestones are being met/surpassed
bodes well.
If he can gain weight with formula then it seems that says he is
capable of gaining weight, depending on what he takes in. I think
you should look at your own nutrition. Is the milk he is getting
rich enough? Moms need to take in a heck of a lot of nutrition to
make great milk. It sounds like you're feeding him a lot, but
that means less if the milk isn't top quality.
Please see
http://www.westonaprice.org/children/dietformothers.html and
compare your diet to the one listed there, which is based on what
traditional societies fed nursing mothers. Most of the things
there are easily added to the diet and make a huge difference in
the quality of the milk your baby receives. Perhaps if he gets
more fat and calories in the breastmilk he will gain some weight
Anon
Jan 2006
Hello,
I am very worried about my 9 month old. She is gaining weight very
slowly. In fact, after going through her records, I noticed that she has
actually lost weight in the last few months. In November, she weight 14
lbs. 12 ounces (clothes on). This Monday, during a doctor's visit, she
weighed in at 14 lbs. 8 ounces. It baffles me because she seems to eat
quite well. She is taking solids 3 times a day. With lots of
encouragement, she usually eats about 2 containers of baby food. Her
milk consumption is low, however. She only drinks between 14-16
ounces of formula a day. And, although I've been told that it's normal,
she also has 3-4 bowel movements a day.
I need to mention that she's had lots of medical problems. In
September, she had heart surgery for a patent ductus. She bounced
back from the surgery quickly and gained 2-3 pounds in less than 2
months. We were all so happy to see her thriving. But since then, she
isn't gaining anything. She also sees physical and orthopedic therapists
for torticollis and clasped thumbs, although both problems are no longer
issues. She also has an abnormal aortic valve (mild case) and a
tethered cord. We have gone to genetics for these issues but they have
not pinpointed a specific syndrome. They think she's just had the
misfortune to be born with these complications. In addition, due to the
intubation from the heart surgery, her left vocal cord was damaged. But,
like I said, it doesn't seem to be impeding her solids intake.
Anyway, I would appreciate any advice regarding the lack of weight
gain. Could it be an infection? I just don't know. For such a little one,
she's gone through so much. I just want to figure this out and move on.
Thanks for any recommendations.
Bless your heart for worrying so much! Honey, your poor girl has gone through a lot and sounds like an eating champ! If the docs aren't worried, I wouldn't worry. But if it makes you feel better, keep offering her food (and spoon feed her, if need be- my skinny little 3 yr old still eats 4x more food when I put it in her mouth and hold her in my lap, than when she feeds herself). At your daughter's age, she's getting more mobile, growing, making brain cells, etc, and you can have tons of food going in at it all burns up. While my daughter didn't lose weight at that age, she didn't have heart surgery either, and she gained very, very little, and very slowly for the next year.
And between 2yrs and 3yrs, she gained nothing! But she's perfectly healthy. somebody's gotta be small, and your poor little one has had her share of challenges. Feed her avocados, scrambled eggs with lots of butter, whole milk yogurt, whole milk. And if she eats some veggies give her some ice cream if you want to. It will at least make you clear that you've put in 110% of the effort. That's how I figure it for my kid.
Hi- My six month old son is also having trouble putting on weight. We think it is because of a rare skeletal disorder he has, which makes his rib cage rather narrow. He therefore breathes a lot faster than other babies his age, to get enough oxygen. In expending so much energy breathing, his calorie needs are high. I would think your daughter also needed lots of calories to recover from her surgery; congratulations on getting her weight back where it was pre-surgery! I just wanted to share a trick our pediatrician recommended. She said we should add flax seed oil to all of his solid food. We just mix in about half a teaspoon to a teaspoon into a jar of stage 2 foods. We also sprinkle rice cereal on his food. The doctor also recommended full fat yogurt, though our son so far doesn't like the taste of it - I haven't tried YoBaby! yet, so I'm hoping he likes that.
Anyhow, we've just been doing this for a few weeks, but he does seem already to be getting a bit more baby fat. Best Wishes-
Mom of a slender baby
First, I'm sorry you've been through so much with your baby!
That sounds so hard. But I can't help wondering what your pediatrician is telling you regarding the weight gain, and whether you don't trust his/her opinions/advice, and so are asking us (who really don't know enough about your baby's situation or in most cases, about medicine to really give you informed advice)? Also, don't forget that your stress level affects your baby a great deal, and if you are anxious when feeding her she will pick up on this, and it may even make her eat less. Offer her snacks all throughout the day, finger foods, etc. and not only three meals. Your baby is at an age where she is getting more active, and where weight gain does tend to slow down. Also, your baby does not seem so tiny to me, since mine has been consistently at the 5th percentile for height and weight, at just over a year now, but he's thriving wonderfully. If you don't trust the advice your doctor is giving you, I hope you will find someone you can put more faith in so you don't worry so much, as babies need calm h
Anon.
I don't want to frighten you, but when you did genetic counseling, did you look into Cystic Fibrosis? ''Failure to thrive,'' (i.e. failure to grow) while eating a normal (or more) amount is classic CF symptom. Some ways to tell before you get the test (it's an easy test..no pain for the child.) 1. Are the poops really really smelly and bulky? 2. If you lick her, do you taste a lot of salt? If you haven't done so already, please check this out asap, as the earlier you catch it the better off she will be.
Amanda
There are a couple of possibilities:
A.) baby has contracted a parasite or another enteral visitor.
Your doctor needs to check this one out. But you probably would have it
as well if that was the case.
B.) Food allergy - a 14 month old is eating a lot of different stuff
than he was a few months ago. Have you MD check him for milk protein and
gluten allergies. Other foods that can cause problems are corn and soy.
These allergies may not always manifest as rashes. Sometime they are
just internal allergis that upset the absorbtion of food. Food
allergies are often subtle and overlooked.
C.) Any number of other problems which are too numerous to list here.
cindy
Sept 2005
Hi, I was wondering if any of you parents out there have any
experience with gastrostomy tube feeding. We're facing this
decision with my 3 yr old son right now because he is not
eating enough to grow. I've read a lot on the internet but I'm
wondering if anyone has personal experience they can share with
me. Thanks
Hi there. I certainly feel for you, it is difficult when your child will
not eat- it is hard on you as a parent, as well as your child! Having
said that, putting a g-tube in a young child seems pretty extreme unless
absolutely, positively nothing else has worked. I work in healthcare
daily with adults who mostly all have G-tubes or J-tubes or both,
although some have naso- gastric tubes. The insertion of the tube is
done as a surgical procedure with anesthesia. Some people recover
quickly, while others always have pain at the site. Here is the problem
that I see with a young, active child: the g-tube can become infected,
or pulled out and then you really have trouble. Even when you are not
using it to deliver food directly to the stomach, the tube apparatus is
fairly long and dangles around and gets caught in clothing. It also
requires maintenance: daily cleaning, and flushing everytime that it is
used for food. Sometimes it plugs up for no good reason and requires a
physician to look at it.
Sometimes it gets pulled only partway out and needs a physician to look
at it. Another problem is that sometimes putting a lot of food directly
into the stomach causes bloating, cramping, gassiness and the liquid
food itself leads to looser stools.
Also, I have worked with some kids who simply throw up the liquid that
you have just put into them. So, it really is not a perfect solution.
What has your physician done so far to try and find out why your child
is not eating? Does you child gag or cough when eating? Is it certain
textures or flavors? Does you child drink liquids alright or seem to
have more trouble with those? Has an Ear, Nose, Throat specialist done
an exam of your child's mouth, throat, palate? If even one little thing
has been identified as questionable, did they do a barium swallow study?
Has an x-ray or scan been done of the upper GI tract, especially the
esophagus? Has a gastric reflux diagnosis been looked at and ruled out?
Does your child complain of pain or any other bad feeling after eating,
or throw up often? There are so many things to think about and look at
before deciding to put a piece of plastic in a toddler's tummy. And even
if this is what you end up needing to do, you still have not gotten to
the root of why the child is not eating. At the very least, if you have
looked at all of these things and more, they could try a naso- gastric
tube for a trial to see if the child tolerates the feedings. That will
only work though if your child leaves the tube in (same actually goes
for the g-tube which is lightly tacked into the body with stitches.) As
the parent, you have to do what you feel will best help your child. But
please speak up and ask the Dr. to exhaust all means before turning to
this, it is not a perfect solution by any means! My heart goes out to
you, this is not an easy decision you are dealing with.
healthcare mom
sounds really fishy unless this child has some other problem that is
contributing to her not eating. she may just be small for her age. she
may be a picky eater, many toddlers eat very little or eat very
sporadically infact its the norm for this age group to eat very little
several days in a row and then have a decent eating day.
unless there is more to this than you actually wrote in the original
post I'd at least get another opinion. before you subject this child to
surgery and tube feedings.
anon
Nov 2004
I have a one year old baby boy who has always been on the thin
side, but now his weight is off the charts and his height has
dropped to below the 25th percentile (it was around the 50th). My
pediatrician said to stop nursing him at night (he frequently
wakes to nurse) and to add butter to his vegetables. The baby
eats very little in the way of solid food. Is it wise to try to
decrease breastfeeding, and if so, then what is the best way to
put weight on an infant in a healthy way (i.e., as opposed to
increasing saturated fat)?
Concerned mom
Lowfat diets are not appropriate for children under two. Your
child needs fat, including saturated fats, to build his brain.
Giving lowfat milk can lead to so-called yuppie malnutrition
syndrome. Don't worry about the butter.
My kids didn't show that much interest in food until they were
weaned, but there are things you can do to get them to eat
without weaning. One thing I did that made a difference was to
not nurse them in the morning when we woke up. Breakfast first,
then nursing. Try whole fat yogurt mixed with fruit. I had to
make smoothie pops out of it to get my younger daughter to eat
it, but she loves the smoothie pops and every time we made them I
offered her a drink of the smoothie. Eventually she tried it and
now she likes it. So we make a big batch and drink some and
freeze some. She will also eat frozen blueberries and peas but
not the fresh. Pumpkin muffins made with flax meal and those
Omega-3 fortified eggs are another way to get good
brain-developing (and weightgaining!) fats into them.
Some say that a child may have to try a food 40 times before he
or she will accept it. We have started having regular food
nights, a taco night, a spaghetti night, a roast chicken night,
so that they get regular opportunities to try new things, and now
they eat all these things. I started getting the Trader Joe's
Middle East Feasts every week and now my kids will eat falafel
and hummus. It took at least 15 exposures before they would take
more than a nibble of a falafel. Usually they ate only the pita
bread. But now they eat both the falafel and the hummus. I am
hoping that the tabouleh will follow one of these days. Oh yes,
and then there is ranch dressing and ketchup. Everything is
better to a toddler when dipped in ketchup or ranch or put on a
toothpick. My 4yo even dips oranges in ketchup. Ugh.
Good luck,
susan
This may not be the answer you're looking for but my daughter was in the
10th
percentile when she was 12-14 mos. We started making milk shakes- as
natural &
organic as we could find, for her as well as adding pediasure(enfamil
makes a
supplament like this too) to her milk...just a little... also, when I
weaned her she
began drinking massive amounts of whole milk & she began to not only sleep
better
but also gained weight & is now on track w/her weight. Good luck,
chubby cheeks again!
You don't mention in your posting whether your child is
generally healthy, nor how active he is. If the child is
active, and he has been more or less following his own curve
consistently (below the 'normal' but in line with the general
pattern), I would try not to worry. I know that this is easier
said than done, but I was in the same position and finally
started to believe all the doctors who told me not to worry: my
son was thriving in all other non-weight/height respects. He
was on the 3rd percentile for weight, probably about 25th for
height, and as a BMI type index, very much 'under the curve'.
He was, however, consistently following his own growth curve
from about four months on. (And was born as a relatively big,
8 lbs baby.) Today he is still a skinny, healthy 2.5 year old,
and he is bright, social and verbally quite advanced.
I was also told to stop night feedings at about 6 months, but
didn't listen until 9 months (and then did it most for selfish
reasons so that I could sleep through the night). It had no
negative effect on his weight, and perhaps (though the details
are now fuzzy) encouraged him to eat more solids.
A final thought: we were also told to put oils on all his food
(in our case, olive oil). Sounds disgusting, and not quite
healthy, but you have to remember that up to about 2 years
babies really do need fat, and quite a bit of it. Fat is
critical in mylination -- the covering of nerves (in the brain
and elsewhere) with fatty coatings so that information is
processed quicker and more efficiently. If you otherwise eat
in a healthy manner, adding a bit of fat will do no long term
damage.
Been there
I love the book ''Super Baby Food.'' You might try it--she
recommends lots of ground nuts (assuming your child is not
allergic), flax seed, avocado, etc. She also has recommendations
for toddlers.
In response to your child’s 'low weight and height gain'...Just
in case, I would recommend that you have your child tested for
celiac disease, which is an intolerance to gluten. While this
may sound rather extreme, a symptom of celiacs is short stature
and failure to thrive even with proper diet, due to degeneration
in the digestive system. While it is statistically remote that
this is the cause, it is a condition that can be the root cause
of many symptoms (eczema, digestive problems, gas etc..) but is
often overlooked by physicians.
I hope that this is not the root cause of your child’s slight
underdevelopment, but I would hate to have it be the cause and
go undetected and continue to jeopardize your child’s long-term
health.
For more info see : http://www.csaceliacs.org/celiac_symptoms.php
anon
Try avocados! Butter isn't terrible for young toddlers, either, just get
organic.
Basically, it is a trial and error sort of deal. Introduce a variety of
foods, and if
he isn't interested in certain ones, try them again 3-4 weeks later. Cream
cheese is good on toast, bagels, or fruit. You can make smoothies with
Organic
Brown Cow yogurt, too. Make sure you eat in a certain place at specific
times
for meals, too. Sometimes they just need more of a schedule. I would try
eating
your meals with him, too. Don't worry about the charts...plenty of
children have
been classified as ''failure to thrive'' and are perfectly happy and
healthy!
Good luck!
M
I have had poor clients whose doctors called CPS and their
children taken into protective custody for failure to thrive.
I have one client now where one of the allegations is she gave
her 15 month old 2% milk without consulting with the doctor
first. Social workers get angry when I argue that
pediatricians say nothing to my upper class friends
whose ''nutritional choices,'' including all soy diets, often
result in low weight gain and ''failure to thrive.'' These
friend's choices are rarely questioned by the same medical
community that calls CPS on poorer parents.
anon
April 2004
Our pediatrician is ''a bit worried'' because our 16 month old son
hasn't gained any appreciable weight or height in the past 6
months. He started out around the 90th percentile and is now
about 50th. He is otherwise healthy. He's not a big eater but is
still breastfeeding regularly. Her advice is to cut down on
breastfeeding to make him hungry and want to eat more. Not only
is this hard to do when my son is insistant, but it feels
counterintuitive. Has anyone else gone through this? Any advice
for reluctant eaters?
Should I be worried?
Uh, you should definitely not stop breastfeeding. Especially,
if he's not getting enough nutrition from other than you. My
son was also not a big eater around 11-16 months and depended
on the breast regularly. He was also at 90th percentile at
birth and slowed down to 50-75th, but was still bigger than
most of the babies his age. Growth definitely slows down after
the first year. I wouldn't worry too much about this. I used to
(and still do) try to supplement for what he's not eating by
eating them myself and BF to him, started him on an organic
formula along with the breastfeeding, and just try to feed him
the food I know he will eat (better than nothing, right?). This
phase has passed and now he's showing interest in a lot of
other foods. Please don't discourage BF unless you really want
to stop. Have patience, you're doing a good job and keep trying
to introduce different foods at a comfortable pace; he'll come
around.
mama of a very good eater.
I wouldn't be worried. Your child seems to be fine and healthy -
obviously what he is doing works for him, so why force him into
something else?
anon
If your son seems healthy and active, he's probably just on his
own growth curve. Call a la Leche League leader first of all to
ask her advice. Secondly, try feeding him solids more often,
such as every two hours, making sure to give him hughly
nutritious foods such as fresh cooked veggies, fresh fruit,
whole grain pasta and bread, chicken, almond butter, avocados,
etc. to increase his appetite. I have found that my 13 month old
prefers fresh food to reheated, canned or frozen food.
Jennifer
Advice just seems to vary from doctor to doctor. Our 16 month
old went from around 50th percentile to 22nd, and our doctor
said not to worry, that 22nd was still fine. You have to keep
in mind that toddlers are more active and therefore need more
calories (thus the recommendation that toddlers have a high fat
diet, as you get more calories/bang for your buck), and they
are also into power tripping and saying ''no'' when you want them
to eat even if they really are hungry! So we also have been on
a mission to get our son to gain weight. I haven't gotten him
weighed since is 15 month check up last month, but visibly we
can see has gained weight from doing the following:
- We let him snack whenever he wants, and on days when he
refuses to eat a regular meal I just put out something on a
plate for him to go to while he's playing. This morning he
refused his usual cereal so I made a waffle, put butter and jam
on it and left it cut up on a plate on a chair. Over the course
of an hour he ate it. It really helps to teach them some basic
sign language regarding wanting food/drink, and at this age
they pick it up quickly. My son now brings his fingers to his
mouth to let me know he's hungry, rubs his hands together like
he's washing them to say he wants water, and moves his fists up
and down like he's milking a cow to say he wants milk. At this
age their food demands/wants seem to fluctuate from day to day,
so it helps that he says what he wants. Maybe a couple of days
go by where he barely wants milk, the next he signing for it
every couple of hours.
- Give him more bottles of milk throughout the day. Supplement
your breastfeeding w/ whole milk or soy milk. They really can
get what they need from whole milk at this age.
- We put butter or olive oil on/in everything. Butter in his
Cream of Wheat, cook carrots in oil instead of steam them, etc.
It has been hard for me to loose my knee jerk reaction to fats
and remember that they really need them. I don't remember the
exact numbers, but our doctor gave us the example of something
like 1 gram of protein has 4 calories and 1 gram of fat has
10, so it is more efficient.
anon
I have friends who've been in similar situation and have found
that the solution is really not to get the child to eat *more*,
but to make what the child does eat count for more. In other
words, encourage more calorically-dense and possibly higher-fat
foods for the solids portion of your son's diet. Avocado and
yogurt are a better choice than applesauce. Adding olive oil
and/or flax oil to his food can help.
To the extent that cutting back on breastfeeding works, it only
does so if the breastmilk not being consumed is replaced with
higher-calorie-per-ounce foods. And much of what most toddlers
eat isn't more calorically dense than breastmilk. If your son
tends to ''snack nurse'' a lot during the day, it might in fact be
easier to get him to eat a better overall diet if you institute
more of a schedule; on the other hand, plenty of toddlers are
perfectly healthy on a diet that's still 90% breastmilk, so as
long as your son is growing and developing well, and isn't
actually losing any weight, do what seems right to you.
anon
Feb 2004
I've got a 15 month old girl and ever since she was 9 months old she's
only weighed 17lbs. I never thought of it as a bad thing. She was
healthy, active and ate a lot of food. I've never had any trouble
feeding her. But when I took her into the doctor for her 1 year shots my
doctor said she was under weight for her age. That is when she fell off
their chart. Now she is just getting over pneumonia, and we also found out
that she is anemic. But now we're at home, she seems to be doing better
but she will hardly eat or drink anything anymore, and I don't know why.
I've tried everything I can think of. She's now back to eating all baby
food and pureed food. She was eating hard food before and now it's a
struggle to get her to eat anything. I hope you can give me any
information that could help.
jennifer
We are in the same kind of situation with our 2-year old.
He ''fell'' off the chart at 18 months after steadily going down.
So the doctor asked for some blood work and for a gastro-
enteorologist to see him. He just had had the stomach flu and
was teething his molars so he had stopped eating altogether.
Eventually, his molars came out and he started being hungry
again in the last few months. He's scheduled to see the doctor
again next week. I have put off the gastro-enteorologist
appointment in part because his blood work came out fine. Now
what I did do is offering him food every few hours and I got him
back on formula instead of milk. I am not stressed about it
because some people have to be small so others can be tall and
he is doing amazingly in other areas.
m
I would suggest getting advice from a gastroenterologist (geez I
hope I am spelling that correctly). My son had a similar
problem where at one years old he started gasping and coughing
whenever he tried to drink his bottle. After 4 bouts with
pneumonia in six months a scope was done and we found that he
had a condition called aspiration. Whenever he would swallow
liquid or food particles would get into his lungs and cause
respiratory problems.
Long story and not to alarm you but at 16 months (he was
weighing approx. 17 lbs still too and had the ''failure to
thrive'' diagnosis) he had an operation to insert a feeding tube
because ingesting anything orally is not allowed with that
condition. So it is important to check everything out with the
right specialists. We went through Children's hospital in
Oakland.
He has been without the feeding tube for about five years now
and fine physically just check everything out to make sure it's
not the same situation.
Sharlene
I do not want to alarm, but possibly help. If your child does
have 'allergies' that have been detected, and wheat is one of
them...please ask your MD about the possibility of Celiacs
disease.
It may be possible that your child is not only alergic to wheat,
but may also have this disease that can effect the digestive
system. If you had been (and are) feeding your child wheat and
oats cereals then the damage can be causing the symptoms you
describe- lack of appetite, loss of weight etc.. The wheat
damages the colon and inhibits the absorbtion of nutrients and
fats. The good news is it will regenerate if 'gluten'
(wheat,oats,rye) are no longer in the diet.
I too have this condition and was miss diagnosed for a while,
showing 'normal' blood tests. I would encourage you to talk to
your MD, talk to a GI Dr., and read more about this Celiacs on
the web. It may not be the answer to your problem, but I would
hate to have any child suffer do to a misdiagnosis.
Please feel free to correspond for more info. If you do find
that this is the cause, I have much to share how to live with
this. We are keeping my son (2 years) gluten free also.
Eileen
July 2003
My baby is now a year old and still only weighs 17 lbs. She was
16 pounds at 6 months, and has only gained a pound 6 months
later. I've been having a lot of difficulty feeding her. When
I first started her out on solids (at 5 months), she was a good
eater until she hit the 6 month age mark. Since then, she
doesn't want to eat no matter what I do or put in front of her.
I try to distract her with toys, videos, whatever and slip food
into her mouth. The only thing she really likes is oatios and
rice chex. I should also mention that she has a ton of food
allergies too (that's another topic). She's allergic to dairy,
eggs, wheat and nuts. I try to feed her fatty items, such as
soy margarine, avocado...sometimes she'll take it, sometimes she
just won't open her mouth. Her pediatrician has run about 9
blood tests on her and everything came back normal. He also
checked her stools for blood and that came back negative. We're
waiting for more tests on whether there may be parasites found
in her stool. I'm not sure what else I can do to get food into
her. I started feeding her soy formula recently (whatever, to
get calories into her). Since she doesn't take the bottle, this
has been a slow process as well. Today I managed to get 4 oz of
formula into her by giving it to her in a cup. Does any parent
out there have any advice you can give me on this. It's been
very frustrating, and I'm starting to get really worried. She's
very thin and continues to not gain weight. In fact, she's now
off the charts in terms of weight for her age. Thanks very
much, I really appreciate any help you can prvodice.
may
I know it can be frustrating to see your baby slip off the
chart. I hate those charts- they should do away with them! 17
pounds does not seem that small for her age.
My son is 17 months old and has been off the chart since he was
10 months old. He now weighs a mere 20 lbs, however, he is very
bright and active and he has been hitting all of his
developmental milestones right on track. My son is half Filipino
and half American (my husband is 6'' where I am only 4'11)I am
very petite so part of being small could be in the genes. As
long as your daughter is plotting her own chart- it might not be
as rapid as you would like but perhaps she might be small by
nature (if you and/or your husband are small, also she could
just be a small baby but grow to be a bigger person. If your
daughter is alert and active and happy then I think this should
be your measurement for her.
Still putting genes aside, good nutrition and eating well are
very important to a growing baby.My son although not a picky
eater, does not eat that much and has no interest in anthing but
bread, fruit and yogert. He too did not take to formula from a
bottle (he was bf until 13 months) but he does like milk now
from a sippy cup. Our doctor recommended putting formula in his
foods for more calories. I understand your daugther has food
allergies so perhaps the soy formula added into her food might
help.
As one small baby mommie once told me, we should be so lucky our
babies are easy on our backs and that we can use the Baby Bjorn
for awhile while other big babies have busted out!
Good luck!
Proud Small Baby Mama
I suggest going to zerotothree.org (professional publication of
the National Center for Infants, Toddlers and Families). They
have fantastic advice on feeding, (among many other things), such
as
Let the child touch the food & eat with fingers.
Talk in a quiet and engaging manner.
Be engaging, but not overwhelming; take care not to overwhelm the
child with talking or behavior.
When the child is self-feeding, remain present in the situation,
but don't take over.
Let the child decide how fast to eat.
Let the child decide how much to eat.
Respect the child's food preferences.
Respect the child's caution about new foods.
Remember, all children learn to eat eventually.
this obviously does not address any medical issues your child may
have (e.g. allergies), but I hope it helps.
my daughter also weighed 17 pounds at her one year checkup and
she has no known food allergies. our doctor said she looked very
healthy and attributed it to our being ''petite'' people. I am half
chinese on my mother's side and that seems to have dominated her
size gene. she is now 2 3/4 and weighes 24 pounds. sometimes I
worry when I see the kids she has been around since she was just
a wee thing because she is quite tiny in comparison. as long as
she remains vivacious and eats decently (many days a frustrating
task as she is a very selective diner) I'll just adore her skinny
little arms and legs. at least ''uppies'' is still manageable!
gael
My kiddo went through a similar phase (no weight gain at ALL
from 6-9 months) although he didn't have allergies. I found
that the key to improvement was to not get emotional about it,
offer frequently, NEVER to force food, and to give him as much
finger food as he could eat (ie meatballs, soft apples, etc.).
Part of it was a fierce independence. Distraction also helped.
I hope some of that helps. He's now a 2 year old and healthy as
can be although he'll never be huge (25% ht and 5% wt).
another mom
Have you or your pediatrician thought about oral-motor issues
with your child? It is possible that there is
something 'mechanical' or sensory going on that makes
eating/swallowing, etc. complicated. Sometimes medical doctors
don't think of this right away or wait until they have
exhausted and out-ruled all medical avenues before they make
referrals for this. Pediatric occupational therapists would be
the ones to consult about eating and oral-motor issues. Feel
free to contact me if you have further questions. Good luck.
Abby
What a challenge you are facing. It really helps to do this with
support and I would recommend seeing a pediatric dietitian who can
guide you and offer some advice. For example, many young children
like waffles and pancakes, they are soft, you can top them with
butter. Offer food every 2-3 hours, let the child be in control
of the amount, the more you fuss, the less they eat. Read books
by Ellen Satter, dietitian and therapist.
R.D.
I can totally relate to your experience. My 21-daughter has
been an extremely fussy feeder from the beginning. She refused
the bottle from very early on, despite all of my efforts. I had
to return to work at month 4, so I started her on solids very
early and used the pumped milk in other foods (see below). Even
now that we are on a toddler diet, she continues to be extremely
picky about her food. She even dislikes the more common kid
favorites such as macaroni and cheese and peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches. Fortunately, she has no known allergies
(though we are vegetarians and our diet may be more restricted
in other ways).
Some principles that have helped us survive
1) Make as much of the pureed foods at home as possible, using
fresh veggies/fruits. From the beginning, she refused to eat
any of the bottled foods but would manage to eat some of the
home cooked food.
2) Spice everything. I found that my daughter really likes
strongly flavored foods, and through trial and error, I have
found her favorite flavors.
3) Keep her on a routine. I found that she would prefer to do
anything but eat. (I found it wasn't true that ''she would eat
when she was hungry.'') But, with a little vigilance on my part
about routines, she has come to expect eating certain things in
certain orders at certain times during the day (e.g., breakfast,
then fruit, then snack, then milk, etc. all within roughly same
time periods each day).
4) Distract her throughout the feeding (I always put her in a
highchair so I can control her) with lots of animated
discussion, related to either her toys, books, or tv shows on
hand. I also make sure no one else is in the room during
feeding and that I am not distracted by anything else (such as
phone, spouse, etc) b/c she will quickly stop eating.
5) Use sippy cups and glasses for beverage items and mix as much
formula/milk into solid foods as possible - b/c my daughter
refused the bottle, I trained her to use a sippy cup and then a
glass for drinking very early on. Also, while I was at work,
all foods served to her (including the fruit purees) until she
was regularly drinking soymilk from a glass (see below) would be
mixed with some breastmilk so she would get at least a few
ounces with the solid feedings.
And, here are some quirky foods that seem to work for her (and
are not on your list of allergic foods)
1) Instant oatmeal and quinoa flakes hot cereal (I buy both buld
at Whole Foods). I put a sweetener (such as Molasses), spices
(cinnamon,nutmeg and cloves) and cook it with a combo of whole
milk and water. You can also make it with soymilk.
2) Baby cereal, formula (My daughter likes a particular organic
dairy formula I use) and a large banana, all blended together.
The consistency is pretty thin and I spoon feed her. Even
though she has outgrown these foods, I still feed this to her
everyday because she still likes it.
5) Soymilk to drink in glass (she refuses any cow's milk and she
only likes Silk Soy, which is fortunately readily available)
6) Superfood Juice from Odwalla (curiously, she seems to really
like this and b/c it is very nutritious I try to give her some
every day, usually after a vegetable serving).
6) Tofu-based products- She likes tofu products quite a bit,
such as baked tofu and veggie dogs . She has been eating thin
slices of baked tofu since she was a year old.
7) Dried beans of all kinds (boiled and seasoned with different
spices). When she was young, I would puree some boiled rice and
different beans together with spices and some breastmilk.
Hope this helps. Good luck and hang in there. While your
daughter may not ''grow out of'' her fussiness anytime soon, it
will get marginally easier as she grows older b/c there will be
a wider variety of foods and food preparation methods available
to you. And, while I always worry about my daughter's weight
(she too is really low in the charts), the pediatrician has
never been worried and says that she is an extremely healthy,
curious and physically active child.
mom of an extremely fussy eater
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