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The daycare center I picked isn't the nice place I thought

Feb. 2004

Hello-

I am in the midst of a daycare dilemma and I don't know how to proceed.

My son is four months old and has been in daycare for three weeks now. He attends a childcare center MWF and I work from home T/TH with him by my side.

Little things I have noticed at the center bug me and have set off my ''mother's instinct.'' I can't flat out say they are abusing my child, but it is little things like: one primary provider not knowing my sons name (if you don't know who he is, then how do you feed him the right bottles?), their use of the baby swing as a cure all, and their attempt to feed my son whenever he gets fussy instead of soothing, letting him play. The just don't seem to know our son and their attitude has been that this is what I can expect since he is in a Center environment. Twice I have picked him up with dried spit up all over his clothes. When I pointed it out, they hadn't even realized he had spit up. Also the area that is supposed to have been ''his'' crib always seems to have other childrens linens in it. It is things like that...nothing blatant, but alarming to me all the same.

I have also come to notice the condition of the other kids and their parents. I can't tell if I am being an educated snob or attentive parent....a few of the kids are WAY behind developmentally for example. The parents are young (which is not a crime I know;I am young-ish) but they seem more interested in their fingernails and talking about their ''babies daddy's'' than the welfare of their children. Many of the toddlers have a negative energy that I just don't want my son exposed to. One has apparently taken to knocking my son over.

Bottom line is that I don't think he belongs there. I did all my homework and thought I found a nice place. I was mistaken.

My dilemmas:

Am I being over-sensitive? My hubby seems lukewarm about moving our son. He worries about the financial end of it all. But he has never done the pick-up and drop-off due to his work schedule. The director of the center is a warm woman with a strong personality and I truly believe she would write my concerns off as a newbie mom.

If I decide to move our son, the nearest availabilty at a quality daycare wouldn't be until December. What do I do until then? I worry that finding some other place so quickly will be traumatic on my son--especially since he will be heading to Montessori in Decemeber (hopefully).

To make matters more complicated, we live in Fairfield. We moved here last year since homes are cheaper, relatively, and because my hubby works in the East Bay and I work in Davis. Fairfield seemed like a decent stop in between. But now that we have a child, I am finding the entire community to be less than what I had hoped. Not many places even have childcare here. And Davis has childcare waiting lists that back into 2005.

What should I do? We can't live on just my husbands income. I am not getting any work done when I am at work, since I am constantly worried about my son. Grandma works and my husbands parents are not an option as help either.I have called/visited many home based daycares and have been constantly disappointed.

I don't think I have unrealistic expectations. I just want a quality daycare where my son can grow and where I know he will be safe and happy.

Any ideas or thoughts greatly appreciated.

Den


I think you should follow your instincts and take your son out of the day care. A friend of mine took day care provider classes and has since had a thriving at-home daycare business. Previously, she had a career she enjoyed, but wanted to be with her child more. Although it's not perfect, no job is, but with this one, she can make money and be with her children, as now she has two kids, and has been doing it for about 9 years. She has never said to me that she wishes she didn't choose this route.

You sound like a loving, smart, caring person who would probably be great at it. It also sounds like your town could use another daycare provider choice. Plus if you decide you don't like it, you can always get another job, you can't retrieve this precious time you have with your kid. I think you should look at this as an opportunity, a door that has been open for you. It's true that being a mom is the toughest job, but it's also the most rewarding.

By taking these daycare classes, and by providing daycare, you will learn so much and you'll get to help other moms who are in your position now. Lastly, think about what having a job really costs you in clothing, dry cleaning, gas, car- maintenance, daycare, lunches out, plus stress, which spills over to your spouse and child. Another idea I just thought of: If you have a skill, maybe you could offer community center class(es). an opportunity awaits


Others may disagree, but my advice is: GET YOUR BABY OUT OF THERE. Your intuition is more likely than not right on the money, and the examples you give of why you're worried sound like real issues to me. I don't think you're being oversensitive -- this is a 4 month old we're talking about, not a 4 year old who would be in a much better position (relatively speaking) to take care of himself. A 4 month old is very vulnerable, and it sounds like there are a lot of warning signs at this place. Have you looked into doing a nanny-share? When I researched it, they weren't that much more expensive than daycare, though I was looking in Oakland, not Fairfied. It's a long time till December, which I know might be hard finan! cially, but this is your baby. Waiting till December to move him doesn't sound like a great idea. I'd do whatever I could to find an alternative. Good luck to you. anon
It sounds like you have very legitimate concerns and are not in a high-quality daycare situation. I would definitely start looking around for something else. A good daycare situation not only provides attentive, nurturing, loving care for your baby, but also support for you as a new (and sometimes nervous) working mom. Maybe you should consider a family, home-based daycare if there are no high-quality centers in your area. You should call Bananas in Oakland, which can offer advice on what to look for in a daycare setting. You might also call AOCS in Oakland -- it is a wonderful childcare center. 510-261-1076 -- ask for Claire or Liisa. While it is probably not at all convenient for you, taking a tour of AOCS could give you a better understanding of what to look for in childcare. And Claire and Lii! sa are always happy to offer advice. Good luck!
Judging by what you have described, it absolutely does not sound like you are needlessly worrying. There could be no excuse for a caretaker not knowing your child's name, unless maybe it was her few days there. I assume that they demand that you label and date any bottles or food, binkies, etc. that you bring in for your child. And they should be keeping your child reasonably clean (at least of things like vomit and any other bodily fluid!). If that is not happening, then that means that those fluids are around the facility, possibly in reach of other crawling babies, etc. (At ours, any time a baby spits up and it lands anywhere other than the baby, it is immediately cleaned up with a disinfectant.) Some places differ in philosophy about the mess of food, and wearing bibs... but still. Th! ey should ask you for add'l sets of clothes and should be changing your baby into clean ones if he gets wet or messy.

I'm not sure how you know that they try to feed him rather than sooth him in ways that you're more comfortable with (do they actually tell you that?). That could be a stylistic difference, (and I've noticed that that approach can be a cultural one), but it is not typically the approach of most reputable daycares, or for that matter, pediatricians. I know at our daycare they do not allow baby swings or bouncy chairs, or anything that allows a caretaker to just put the child in a restrained device that could promote ignoring them. It's a safety concern as well as a child development philosophy. The babies are either held, or when that is not possible due to the demands of other children, they are either given ''tummy time'' on a mat on the floor, or put in a large, raised crib (only one child at a time). The ratio of caregiver to children of this age is roughly 1:3 or 1:4, depending on the day (and ! even that doesn't seem enough sometimes when you want your child to be held as much as possible!)

Anyway, I believe you're right to consider removing him. Don't worry about his transition, he probably has not had a chance to bond with anyone there yet, and besides, he's young enough that it won't ultimately matter. I know the options are expensive, and apparently there isn't much choice in the way of daycare centers where you are. Have you tried asking (on UC Parents) for recommendations for other daycares in your area? There may be some smaller family place that you may not already know about. If you only need to find something until December, is it possible to hire a nanny until then? They can be expensive, but I often hear of people who pay/charge under $11/hour. If someone comes to your house you could have a much better idea of what's going on (if you're able to separate yourself enough to get work done - and that can be tricky). A cheaper solution would be a! nanny share, finding someone who will take care of both your baby and someone else's, at either house. This made us very nervous when our daughter was that age, but from what I read on this site LOTS of people do it and are very happy with their arrangements. You could probably expect to pay about 2/3 of a full rate, it seems. Either way, it's probably a financial hit in comparison with a daycare, but I think you're right - something is not quite right with the practises you describe at your present daycare. I would feel the same as you do.

Best of luck! Anon in Oakland


Given your expectations I think what you probably need to do is hire a nanny. anon
The only regret I have with my son, now 9, is that I left him in a childcare facility that I did not feel good about for too long. Your child is so young - I know that it seems impossible to get by, but I would strongly suggest at least considering keeping her at home for just a few more months. I work with young children in schools, and I see the difference that being with a parent can make. This would give you more time to investigate other possibilities. Is there a chance that your husband could bring her into town, where there might be more options? Or that a mother's helper would allow you to go in for a few hours to do some work? This is time that can never be recaptured, and it passes very quickly. The sacrifices that we make when they're small seem to really pay off in spades later. Feel free to answer back if you want to have a dialogue about this.. kim
TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS. If you think something is wrong, it probably is (and the things you mention aren't little things). Keeping in mind that you have few choices (I know some folks will tell you things that realistically won't work), can you take some time under the Federal Family Medical Leave Act (''FMLA'') and watch your child while you assess another daycare facility? What about using this site to find a ''nanny share'' situation? What about your partner? Can he/she help with the childcare situation for a short time, perhaps using the FMLA or vacation. What a! bout a friend? Can you pay someone you trust to watch your child? If none of these options work for you, then I would have a very serious conversation with the daycare provider. If she's tries to pull the ''new-mom-itis'' stuff on you, tell her that regardless of her opinion, dried spit-up, wrong bed linens, and workers not knowing your child's name is unacceptable. Let her know that you understand some slips but that if you continue to see similar irregularities, you will pull your child and report your findings to the regulatory agency that certifies her center for a full investigation. If her establishment is reputable, she will take your concerns completely seriously and make certain that the workers who are responsible for the mishaps are fired. If she runs a shoddy location, she'll see this as a tremendous threat and you'll know you're doing the right thing by ! getting your child out. good luck
Bottom line with childcare, particularly before they can talk, is that you have to feel comfortable. I'm a pretty particular parent, and have opinions about what should be done & how. For young babies, you need to remember that daycare means that not every baby can be held every moment, which means that possibly a baby may cry for a little bit. That said, you sound uncomfortable. And the daycare providers generally are comfortable doing things their way (and I discovered, since I was home with my child for a while, that I had opinions about many things, and some providers were uncomfortable with my opinions and had an easier time w/ parents who just appreciated somebody taking care of their baby and ''teaching'' them how to do it. Don't bother analyzing everything-ask yourself ! how you feel. Financials are important, but your baby is only a baby for a short time. Everything is a compromise, but you must feel comfortable with your daycare provider, otherwise you add stress to your life--even if everything is fine. Check out all your options, then choose the best one for you. Check out Davis options too, if your husband is willing to do day care dropoff/pickup. You'll find something to your liking, but EVERY situation will have some quirks. find the quirks that work for you. anon
I don't mean to alarm you, but get your child out of that center. I have run a daycare for over eleven years, and I go to extreme lengths (and make sure my employees do as well) to ensure the bottles are marked with permanent marker so they cannot be mixed up. As I am sure you know, infections such as Thrush on the tongue and not to name allergic reactions from drinki! ng the wrong formula can occur and cause pain and misery. Each child's linen is kept strictly in their own playpen etc. We are careful of SIDS, and check the babies to make sure they are breathing etc. Sounds like your child is being neglected. Not just physically, but emotionally too. Contact the local child care referral agency in your area, as well as Contra Costa County to find a new place. Even if you have to out of your way, or pay a little more, it must be worth your peace of mind. In the meantime have a serious conversation with the owner and tell her your concerns. As a parent, you have the right to do that. Anon
I do not think that you are overreacting. You however need to find a way to follow those instincts and make it all work for you. You are correct about a move being hard on your child especially since you plan to move him ! to another school in December. The problem is that if you do not feel adequate care is being given then you have a problem. The first step to take would be to talk to the Director and see if you can talk to one another in an open way where the school doesn't feel attacked and you do not feel belittled for being a first time mother. I was a teacher of young children for 15 years and I think the best thing is always to have open communication between families and teachers.They should be doing a better job about taking care of your child. You should not feel guilty about that. Those little details are what makes it possible for you to concentrate at work and so those are the ones you need to address. I do not think they are little things. I currently run a business where I help families find childcare and preschool settings for their children. I go to all the schools myself and spend lots of time there investigating the ! care they give and how they run the place. Then I get information from the parents as to what they are looking for and so attempt to find situations where everyone will be pleased. The main thing I tell parents is that the place you pick for your child has to be a place you feel comfortable with all around. This place becomes your child's second home in away. You have to visit lots of places in order to compare the various ways people care for children.There are a lot of great schools out there. Remember you have to be able to know they are well cared for so you can concentrate on your work. If talking to the school does not work you could get a part-time nanny until you get to your next school. We all have to think about the money thing but the truth is that if we put our mind to it we can make things work one way or another in order to get our piece of mind. I would be willing to give you more suggestions via e! -mail or by phone. Feel free to contact me. martha
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