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Sept 2009
We resently started having one of my friends Mothers watch our
8 month old son for 4-6 hours a week. She is amazing in every
way but I feel we might be paying her too much, $15.00 an hour.
I checked around before we told her a price and thought that
was pretty standard but now I am running into people who tell
me we are crazy. Not only that but she doesnt like to walk so
when she is with our son she can't take him out in the
stroller. She is overweight and I feel badly asking her to take
him to my work which is two blocks away from my house, Yikes.
Does anyone have some advice on how I can hanndle these two
situations: one lowering the rate and two the walks? Thanks
$15 an hour seems standard for a high quality, experienced child
care provider. Not sure that is what you have though, so maybe
too much for what you are receiving? Tough to drop her wage ex-
post. Perhaps you could say that you had an opportunity to hire
someone else who is willing to work for less, so she has an
option to either keep the job at a lower wage, or choose not?
Shouldn't pay for more than what you are actually receiving
You have two separate problems and the solutions are simple, if
not easy. Your first problem is that you hired someone to
watch your child who cannot or does not wish to give you and
your son the services you want, i.e., walking. The second
problem is that you hired someone who charges more than you
want to pay. The solution is not to decide whether the
caretaker is wrong or unreasonable to resist walking or to
charge $15. The solution is to get clear about what your
requirements are and what you are willing/able to pay, then
find that person. I won't pay $15/hour for babysitting, but
many sitters/nannies charge that amount and get paid that
amount. I pay $10/hour, but it isn't easy to find good child
care for that amount. I have to look far and wide and be
really up front about my requirements. I have two fabulous
sitters but it wasn't easy to find them. It's even harder with
an infant, who requires more care. I suggest you reevaluate
your requirements and then decide if you need to find a new
sitter.
Anon
As someone who used to do child care - please do not underpay
child care workers. Are you telling me that taking care of
your 8 month old son is worth less than $15/hour? Really? In
my opinion, it is a huge problem that child care workers are
not paid enough - and we start devaluing our children.
The walks are another thing - if you are employing her, you can
state what you want her to do. If she won't, find someone
else. But please don't underpay them.
been there.
$15.00 per hour for part time care is fair. Assuming that this
is a person with some childcare experience. I run a home based
daycare and started out pay my employee the same amount. I also
charge $15.00 when I do babysitting on the weekends.
As far as the going for walk, I would not be so concerned now as
your baby is still an infant. I would be concerned about her
ability to look after your baby as she becomes more mobile. Will
she be able to chase after your baby as he begins exploring with
crawling, walking etc?
$15.00 is fair
March 2006
A friend of mine who has three kids and not enough time on
her hands to post this note will soon return to work full-
time. She currently has a FT nanny who watches her 2.5
year old twin daughters. She is at home now caring for
her 3 month old but will return to the office when this
little one is 5 months old. She's wondering what is a
fair and reasonable increase for her nanny as she takes on
a third child to care for. She's interested in getting
feedback on percentage increases in gross or net pay from
people who have expanded from one to two children, two to
three or more.
Currently, she pays her nanny $13.50/hour net for the
twins, pays for all of the nanny's taxes -- including
income, plus health insurance. The nanny gets 10 federal
holidays and 3 weeks off (though 2 have to be
when this family takes their holiday).
Thanks for your input -- she'll really appreciate it!
Typical take home pay rate for 2 kids is already $15-18/hour, and
her nanny is getting only $13.50. Also, pay increases per child
are usually $2/hour.
Hope that helps
With our first child, we started the pay for our nanny at $9/hr and
bumped her up to $10 about one year after she started with us. This was
5 years ago. In additional, we also paid for her taxes and gave her
quarterly bonuses, which was anywhere from $300-$400. It really
depends on what kind of bonuses my husband and I received from our
jobs. If our bonuses were of a significant amount, we had no problem in
passing more of that money to our nanny. We loved her greatly. Still do
as a matter of fact.
Now, we have 2 children and have a different nanny. We had to let our
first nanny go when I got laid off from my work, and decided to stay at
home, with our first child for about 2 years. We pay our current nanny
$15 an hour. We feel that this is a fair price since our oldest is in pre-
school 4 days a week. So the bulk of the time is really taking care of our
2nd child. We also do not pay taxes or medical benefits. With $15/hr we
can't afford to acquire those cost. We do however, pay for 2 weeks
vacations, all major holidays and is accomodating to our nanny if she
needs to do personal things. For instance, we still pay her for a full day's
work, if she needs to go to the doctor's office in morning and comes to
work after.
I hope this helps in deciding what is the appropriate rate increase for
your nanny. Also on the 2003 Salary Survey (Berkley Parents Network
site) I think you can find what the typical hourly rate is for 3 children.
anon
Jan 2006
We hired a nanny to care for our first daughter, born in Feb.
2003. She has taken care of her since May 2003. We now have a
second child and I will be going back to work in Jan. My
question, how much more, if any, should the nanny be paid for
caring for the 2nd child? It's somewhat different than a share
since it's the same family. Also, the older child will be
going to part-time (8 a.m. - 12 noon) daycare in March and full-
time in September. I did review the nanny survey from 2003
(can we get a new survey to get more up to date info?) but
didn't see this particular issue addressed. Thanks.
new mom of two
In my case, my nanny cares for one of my children for $12/hour,
and when she has both of my children I pay $15.
Have you talked to your nanny about this? It's an issue that
should be negotiated with her.
have 2 kids and a nanny
You can negotiate with your nanny whatever works for you and
her, obviously, but I think whether a nanny is watching two
children from different families, or two children from the same
family, that a ''two-child/share'' rate applies. So in my opinion
the survey from 2003 that describes share pay should be a good
guide for what the two-child rate was at that time. We
currently pay our nanny $18 an hour for two kids (and she makes
$14 an hour for one).
With your son being in pre-school for part of the time, I would
simply pay her the single child rate while he is in school, and
the two-child rate when she is watching them both. That said, I
know a couple who paid their nanny $15 an hour all day, for the
same situation you are in (one child in kindergarten for part of
every day). They figured $15 was high for the time the nanny
was with only one child, and low for the time she was with both
children, so it averaged out. I also know it took the nanny
(experienced in the Bay Area) a bit of time to get comfortable
with that arrangement.
Good luck!
when we had our second child, we simply asked our nanny how much
the new rate would be. it went from $9 per hour for our son in
a share to $18 per hour just the two of them.
I thought at the time maybe I should compare rates but when all
is said and done, I trust her. If I didn't I couldn't leave my
kids with her.
Since then I've found that she's near, but not over, the top of
most rates for nanny. and considering her experience and all
that she does for them - transportation, teaching them spanish,
etc. I think she's worth stretching our finances for.
first time employer
Sept 2005
Now that we have a second child (3 months), how much should we
pay our nanny for caring for our two children? My older son is 3
years old and we have had our nanny since he was 4 months old.
We have had nanny shares in the past where we pay $9 for each
child but this is from separate families. Can anyone recommend
an appropriate rate?
Thanks
Stephanie
To my knowledge, the going rate for two children is $18/hour.
I don't know why this would be different if the two children
are from the same family, as opposed to two different
families. It's still the same work for the nanny.
amg
In the last issue someone said it's the same work for a nanny
whether she works with children from the same family or more than
one.
This is very untrue, folks. In addition to making 4 parents
instead of 2 happy, she needs to deal with 2 families' sometimes
conflicting desires and rules. A style or behavior that is common
or allowed in one family may be completely unappreciated with
another. This takes some good juggling. If this weren't the case,
we wouldn't see so many cases of parents asking about parenting
others' children on playdates, or nannyshares talking about one
family wanting to give the nanny autonomy and another wanting a
tight hold on the reins.
Nanny shares certainly deserve to be paid more.
~Nanny who works for one family at a time.
Sept 2005
We are in a Nanny share with one other family, currently our
Nanny takes care of two almost-two year olds (ours and the
other family's). We are expecting a baby in a couple of months
and our Nanny feels she can watch all three children and the
other family is amenable to that. Currently each family pays
$9/hour and the care takes place equally in each home. My
questions are: 1. how much to raise the Nanny's total salary,
and 2. what should be the breakdown for each family (i.e. do we
just pay the extra or do we pay two thirds of the total?). I
looked on the 2003 Nanny survey but didn't find much guidance
there. What have other people done?
Shannon
I'd raise her pay from $18 for two to $21 for 3. And yes, you pay pro
rata - $7 per child - so your family is paying $14 per hour and the
other family $7 per hour. So this does mean the other family is paying
less than they were before you had the baby, but their child will also
be getting less attention, so it's fair.
My Two Cents
Feb 2006
Our nanny has been with us nearly one year and we are wondering
what is an appropriate raise for her. She's done an excellent
job and we definitely want to keep her happy. At the same
time, costs are high and we need to consider what we can
afford. Does anyone know if there is an expectation among
nannies about annual raises? Can anyone share what they've
offered in the past? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank
you.
My nannie started with us when my son was 2 months old. We
started at her at $10/hr for 1 child and have given her a $1/hr
raise every September (the month she started with us).
I am very happy with her and wanted to keep her happy too. Since
I knew that I was going to send him to preschool when he was 3
so that just meant 2 raises, so I was comfortable giving her the
expectation of an annual raise.
Nannies do a very important job for us and I think good ones are
very worth it.
Good Luck
I think annual raises are pretty standard, unless you are already paying
your nanny well above the normal rate. The specific amount matters
less than the fact that you graciously offer her one. For instance, if you're
already paying her $15 per hour, can you afford $16.50 or $16? It's not a
huge amount for you, and it'll make her feel appreciated and valued. If
you can't afford a dollar per hour extra, maybe raise it by 50 cents an
hour and give her an annual bonus or gift along with it.
been there
On my first anniversary I got a $2 per hour raise. It was a
great surprise and very welcome.
If you don't feel financially comfortable with an ongoing raise
in pay, perhaps a one time bonus would be better for you?
Failing that, how about some ''perks''? One paid personal day
earned each month? Major holidays off (with pay) or if you
already do that, how about some minor holidays off with pay? Of
course, this must coincide with your work days off - and it
probably won't.
Since I don't know what you already offer this nanny it is
difficult to suggest alternatives to a raise. How about a gift
card tucked in with the paycheck once a month. Not a huge one,
maybe $25 on a different card each month?
Nothing beats a pay raise!
Sept 2005
I am looking to hire a full-time nanny for my 2 yr old and 3 month old children. My
2 yr old will be in 2 full days a week of preschool. What are most people's
experiences in this situation - should I be paying the two-child rate on those days
my one child is away (planning on paying $16/hr) or is it reasonable to pay a one-
child rate ($13-14/hr) on those days?
Your pay seems very decent, better than many offers, so I think
you may safely pay for one child for the hours when there's just one.
Best of luck -
Kat,
happy Nanny :)
Industry standard: you pay the full rate to reserve her for the
older child just in case.
So many things happen in a year's time. Sick days, holidays,
occasional weird schedules, doctor/dentist appointments, etc.
anon
We are in the same situation, and for the hours my preschooler is
in preschool, I pay the 1-child rate. On hours that the nanny is
watching both kids, she gets the 2-child rate. THere are also
times that I have the nanny watch the baby while I take my
preschooler to have some one-on-one time with mom, and then I
also pay the 1-child rate. It seems fair.
Good luck,
-Kim
Kim
Sept 2005
I have checked the BPN website and have not seen anything about
Nanny salaries since the 2003 survey was conducted. Our Nanny
has asked us for a raise and I want to be fair and understand
the current market rate. We live in North Berekley and have 3
year old twins. We are currently paying our Nanny 16.50 plus
taxes which comes to approx. $18.00 an hour. Could others tell
me what they beleive the going rate is for a full or part time
Nanny caring for 2 children in this area. If you could indicate
whether the rate includes taxes or not that would be helpful.
Thank you very much.
We have been in a nanny-share situation for a year and a half.
We each pay $10 an hour flat, so the nanny makes $20 an hour
with 2 kids. Or, we pay $15 an hour if she is just watching one
child. We don't pay taxes for her, but we do pay on holidays,
her vacation, and we still pay her if we are on vacation and our
child is with us.
Expensive, but glad we have been able to do this
I am not in exactly the same situation you are, but I thought I
might share for comparison's sake. I have three kids who were
4mos, 3 and 6 when I hired my nanny 3 years ago. She had quite
a bit of experience and so we paid her at the upper end of the
going rate at the time $20/hr (we paid taxes above and beyond
that using the Breedlove service, which has been helpful to
us). Each time we get a cost of living raise, we increase her
salary by a similar percentage. I think we pay her about $23/hr
now. I also give Christmas bonuses and recognize each
anniversary of hiring her in a special way. Many of my friends
have hired nannies for less than I pay, but most of them have
not stayed for more than a year. My first nanny was with us for
6 years, and my current nanny 3 years. When you find someone
that works for your whole family, it is worth it to make them
feel valued. When I was looking for a nanny and trying to
decide what the going rate was, I found the website www.bay-
area-sitters.com very helpful. Good luck!
heidio
I pay my nannie $12 per hour for my son only. She has been working
with me for 2 years and have given her a $1 raise yearly (she started at
$10/hr)
When we have another child I pay her $10 and the other mother pays
her $10 as well, so she gets $20 per hour for 2 children. Her share rate
has also gone up at a rate of $1 per year.
I have chosen to give her a $1 per year raise because her job will end,
or significantly decrease, when my son goes to preschool. Also, my son
absolutely adores her and, frankly, I couldn't get through the week
without her. I believe that great nannies deserve yearly raises.
monica
We just interviewed about a half dozen people for a nanny
position. Generally, for one kid, the rate was $12-$16. For
two was $18-$20. If someone was more experienced with
childcare, had additional qualifications like CPR or Trustline,
or was willing to do additional things like laundry or light
cleaning during nap time, the rate would be on the higher end
of the range.
$18 per hour for two kids is quite generous. We live in Piedmont
and have had four nannies over the past 6 years. We currently
employ two of them part-time. We have two children and she is
paid $15 per hour under the table. We sometimes share with
another family and if there are more than 2 children she is paid
$20 per hours total regardless of which children she is watching.
I ahve talked to lots of friends about this subject and I can
tell you that the going rate for two kids in the Oakland
Hills/Piedmong is $14-$16 per hour (the ones on the high end are
usually college students or recent college gradautes, english
speaking, drive etc)
Good luck
don't get guilted in to paying more
I am also very curious about the going rate for nanny salaries. We are currently paying
our 2 day a week nanny $18.00 an hour for our 2.5 year old twins. Would like to know
if this is in the ball park (which it sounds it is according to anon' nanny).
anon2
I think the going rate is $18/hour for two children -- but that
is after taxes, so if your nanny's only taking home $16.50, I
think you're under market.
anon
Why not just give her the raise? I'd say $18/hour plus the additional 1-2
dollars/hour for taxes would be more sufficient. This would mean giving your
nanny a raise of about $1.50 per hour. Going rate for 2 children is variable and
dependent upon a number of factors. However, it seems that anywhere from
$15-20 is considered reasonable by both professional nannies and parents.
Since you've clearly been paying a fair wage, and gas prices (and subsequently
many other items) have gone up, what is an extra $10 or so a day? Not much,
when you are putting the lives of your child(ren) into this person's hands. A
satisfied nanny is going to be more enthusiastic about her job, hands down.
Smart mom
At $16.50/hr PLUS taxes, I think you are already paying through
the nose for childcare.
Recently, I needed to find a regular sitter to care for my two
daughters (ages 5 and 3) one weeknight a week, from roughly 6 to
9. I was amazed--mmm, make that appalled--that sitters were
asking as much as $16/hr.
With no little effort, I found two lovely sitters who charge $10
and $11/hr, respectively.
Granted, these are are not career nannies providing full time
care for twins. But my lord--$17 an hour for two kids? I think
that's amazing.
Anon
My recent N Berkeley experience when looking for either a live-
in nanny or daily babysitter for 20hrs/wk after school care for
our 6 yr old daughter + occasional overnight help while both
parents are on business travel: Live-in would get $150/week
plus private furnished bedroom and bath, free utilities,
internet access, share of laundry room, family phone,cable TV,
and 3 dinners per week. Hourly rate for a daily babysitter of
between $10 and $16/hr for 20 hours a week. Each overnight an
extra $40 or $50. I look forward to input from others.
Curious to know too
We gave our shared nanny (2 kids) a raise last year to $18/hour,
which she had requested and several of her nanny friends were
making. We also paid taxes. Don't know how you calculate your
nanny's taxes, but we started with that base salary of $18/hr,
then withheld taxes from her paycheck, reported to the state and
feds, etc.
Berkeley mom
Aug 2001
I am a stay at home mom of a 6 month old. I have experience with children
as a teacher. I wonder what people are paying for quality childcare. I was asking
between $11-12 an hour and no one has bitten. I wanted to know what people
were willing to pay for high quality childcare that involved one other baby at
the stay at home mom's house. I just need to supplement my husband's income
to afford healthcare and dental. I was a school teacher who makes less than it
would have been to have someone watch my baby so I decided to watch him
myself. So, my question...how much are people paying for high-quality
childcare or daycare.
I think that your rate is fair (and maybe even low given your experience)
if you're just taking care of someone else's child- however, you're really
talking about more of a share situation since you'll also have your child
to care for. I don't think that I'd want to pay much more than $7-8 for a
share arrangement.
Lisa
You sound very well qualified to charge $11-12 per hour. I pay my nanny
$13 per hour for one child, $15 for two, so I think your rate is good. Things
I'm thinking of: People may be viewing it similar to a "share" situation if
you are also watching another baby in your home (your own) and shares
seem to run about $8 or $9 per hour. Perhaps they also worry that you will
give your child more attention than you would give theirs? I also think you
can command a higher rate if you are willing to be more like a nanny (i.e. go
to someone else's house with your child -- I let my nanny bring her kids with
her, for example --).
I've heard of paying $10-$12 in a one provider, one child situation. (Or even
$14 an hour one on one but that is in Santa Clara.) When my child's shared
a sitter with with 1 other child we've paid between $6.50-$7.75 an hour. I
think the more kids there are the less it should cost for each child.
Personally, I think $10-$11 is a bit high for this area when the provider is
taking care of more than one kid.
I think you are asking for too much money. Someone who comes to my
house and cares for just my one child will cost me $8-12/hour
depending on experience, demand, and the going rate in the
neighborhood. If the nanny is caring for 2 children, I would expect
to pay $6-10/hour for my part. Since you are caring for two children I
don't think you can expect to get more than $10/hr, if that much.
However, the fact that you want to do it in your own home may be the
bigger sticking point. The great convenience of expensive childcare
(and $10/hr and up is expensive) is that I don't have to get my child
dressed, packed up, and in the car in the morning - the nanny comes to
my house. I think that taking my child to someone else's house is more
the situation of a family day care. This is less convenient and there
are other children than mine, so I would expect to pay less than the
minimum nanny rate of $8/hour. You should consider other alternatives
such as bringing your child to the other mom's house, or come down a
few dollars on your rate, or take two other children instead of just
one - perhaps siblings where one of the children is older.
I don't think that $11-12/hr is an unreasonable rate to ask. However,
considering the financial situation of many working parents needing
childcare, it is unrealistic for many of us to be able to afford that rate. I
found a very warm and reliable caregiver for my baby and pay her $7 per
hour for her to care for my child in my apartment. It's a service everyone
needs, and it's very expensive. People want high-quality childcare, but it's
also important to make sure one can afford to pay the caregiver. I think a
lot of caregivers are supporting themselves by caring for more than one
child at once. If you watch two children and charge $8/hr for each child,
that's $16/hour, which really isn't too bad.
We are currently looking for childcare for our 14-month-old, and most
nanny-share situations seem to be $7.00/hour. Our current nanny is on the
low end at $6.00, but I think she plans to increase to $7.00 after we move
on. The rates we've seen for private nannies seem to be in the $12/hour
range. Hope this helps!
tracy
For your rate $12 per hour, for a ten hour day, 20 days a month, you are
charging $2400 a month. For families with more than one kid, how many
working moms can afford high rate good care? Most people I know are
paying $750 to $1000 a month for full time care at different settings. Some
moms do not want to sent their babies to a caregiver who is also tending her
own baby, especially at caregiver's home.
In my recent experience, the going rate for childcare for
one child seems to be about $9 - $10/hour. If it's shared
care with one other child, each family pays about
$6 - $7/ hour on average, although I did see one person
charging $8/hour per child, but they had exceptional
credentials.
$11-$12 seems high for what is essentially a share situation. I have
used a number of different child-care situations and now use a
combination. When I shared with another family (one child each family,
an infant and a toddler) we paid $7 per hour per family. The nanny
alternated houses and had her own car, CDL and spoke english. I have
also had my own nanny who watched my son only in our house. Initially
she didn't drive and her English was not very good, though we could
communicate. I paid $8 per hour. She now has her own car, CDL and her
English has improved dramatically. She still only watches my son (now 2
1/2) and I pay her $10 per hour. I also take my son to a wonderful
family day care one day a week with a fabulous woman in her Piedmont
home. She has approx 5 children ages 18 months to 4 years and charges
$5 per hour, she provides two snacks and I provide lunch. They go on
outings to the park and or the Rose Garden every day. Hope this helps.
I guess what I'm saying is that for $11-$12 per hour one can find their
own nanny that will come to their house and be one-on-one with their
child.
Dec 2000
I am looking for nannies and I am baffled at the range of the rates
that are charged by individuals nannies. I would like to find out
what people think is the best way to negotiate a rate, especially with
people that prefer to be paid cash (to avoid taxes).
Nov 2000
Regarding going rates for nannies. When we were in the share
situation it was $14 per hour ($7 per child) The nanny drove and had
her own car, her english was o.k. - not great. The nanny we have now
was $8 for our one child, we now pay her $8.50. She does not drive
and has limited english, though there is no problem communicating.
I have promised her another raise as soon as she passes her driving
test.
We pay our nannies $10-12/hour, with overtime, two weeks vacation,
sick time and retention bonuses. We've offered to pay health
insurance but, to date, they've already had it through spouses.
Oct 2000
To the parent wondering about current Nanny rates, we
pay $12 per hour for our two kids, ages 5 and 2.5.
Our nanny drives and speaks fluent english. She is
also very well educated and really engages my kids.
We have a wonderful full-time nanny that we pay $10 for taking care
of our infant and $12 when taking care of our 2 children. We pay
vacation and sick days with a guaranteed weekly salary. She has
been working for us for only 3 months. We interviewed many
potential nannies and several were asking for $16.50/hr plus
benefits. One was asking for $8 for one and $12 for two. We found
that costs vary tremendously.
We pay our nanny $9.00/hour for 50 guaranteed hours of work per week,
caring
for one child. We occasionally share her with another family, and we still
pay $9/hour and the other family pays $10/hour. If we use her for
additional babysitting time, we pay her $10/hour.
I have another pay question -- about a live-in nanny. We found a great
person whom we'd like to pay at the rate of $10 an hour for our one child,
for about 20 hours of work per week. How much of that can count as an
exchange for the room (separate entrance with bathroom but no kitchen,
however we're willing to put in a kitchenette). Food is not included because
the nanny chooses to eat out. This person is from outside the country, has
no idea what to expect, and is uncomfortable talking about money. We have
no experience, so we want to make sure we are being fair to all of us.
Thanks for any input.
In response to the question about childcare rates, I've been using various
part-time nannies for over 3 years now, and we used to pay $7 - 8 per hour
($4 - 6 per hour for teenagers sitting in the evenings); we now pay closer
to $10 per hour for 1 kid, and $14 per hour for 2. I think it's possible to
pay less (also easy to pay more: I have to work to find people at these
rates), but after meeting so many potential babysitters and having working
relationships with half a dozen over these 3 years, I've come to the
conclusion that it's not worth it to worry about a dollar or two more or
less an hour -- just as with most other things, the people who are really
committed, responsible, dependable realize their worth and tend to charge
more.... Good luck!
Rate depends on the number of hours you would use the sitter for. If you
are using them on a part time basis and you want them to have a car then
$10/hour is typical. However, for full time situations (at least 40 hours
per week) the rate can be $8/hour for a very good nanny.
March 2000
I looked at the website - the responses are from Jan 99. They seem to range from a low
of $6 (for shares) to a high of $11 (for one child). My nanny -- who is great --
wants $13 per hour for one child, $15 per hour for a share of two. She insists this
is well within the range of reason. I really want to keep her and don't want to
insult her, but her $13/hour rate for one child seems high to me. I feel she should be
on the high end of whatever is being paid, because she's really terrific, but I don't
want to pay more than that. (In addition to the hourly rate, I will pay SS and taxes,
and give her paid sick leave and vacation). Have nanny salaries gone up since January
99? Any advice?
Nanny salaries have gone up substantially since January 99, and the
market is very tight. $15.00 an hour for one child was average for the
very qualified candidates we interviewed.
I don't have any advice, but I can share my experience. We have a very
good, experienced, full-time nanny who spends 50 hours a week with our
infant daughter. She does not drive and does not have a social
security number. We started her last fall at $9/hour, with sick time
and vacations as needed. She has been asking for a raise. We will
probably give her $10/hour since we think she is very good, but also
because we are very dependent upon her and afraid of losing her. She
recently considered a share situation with a neighbor. The neighbor's
child would come to our house 4-6 hours twice a week. I had always
heard that in a share situation, both families pay less; these days
approximately $7/hour each family. However, our nanny is insisting
that the new child pay $10/hour, and we continue to pay our standard
rate, which means she would earn close to $20/hour for two infants!
She claims she would charge less if it were a full time share, but that
part-time rates are always higher than full time. I'm assuming the
neighbor will have an easy time finding a less costly alternative, but
then again, perhaps demand for quality childcare has really increased
without a concomitant increase in supply.
Prices have been going up as the market is tight. We just increased
our Nanny's salary in January to $12 for 2 children and $9 for one. We
pay vacation, holidays, sick time and she get's our vacation days off
too. Our nanny is absolutely wonderful and I'm sure she could get more
money if she wanted, but we are not in a position to be able to pay
more. When hiring her about 1 year ago, we struggled with the issue of
taxes and found that many of the nannies we interviewed only wanted the
job if we paid cash. I
decided to give in on that issue and hire the best nanny we could find
and afford. Previously, we did pay the taxes on our first Nanny's
salary.
The problem I see for you is that if she isn't getting paid what she
wants, she will be unhappy and perhaps start looking for another job.
I've been paying $9/hr for one nanny and $10/hr for another. When I've
had a share it's usually been $6/hr. per child (so when there were
three kids, the nanny received $18/hr.) In my experience, younger
people tend to charge more and what your caretaker is asking for
definitely seems past the high end. You might want to look around,
especially at nannies who are not native English speakers.
Regarding what to pay a nanny. Of course there is a wide range, with
many variables. If you want a nanny who is educated, has CPR,
first-aid, Trustline, excellent references, and at least ten years of
experience, expect to pay $13 for one child, and $15 for two. Also,
nannies should be paid a weekly salary, week in, week out. Meaning, if
you go on vacation, you should still pay her. I work as a nanny and my
family pays me $300 per week ($15/hour, twenty hours/week) regardless
of holidays, vacations, illness in their family or in mine. If they
didn't, as a single mother with no other source of income, I'd really
be up a creek. As a result of their excellent treatment of me and
their respect for me as the person who cares for their children, and as
the head of my own household, I am extremely loyal to them, and often
go out of my way to help them out.
We pay our nanny $14 an hour and think she deserves that much. She works 25
hours a week caring for our two school aged sons. She picks them up from
school, takes them where they need to go, cares for them when they are at home
and does light housekeeping (mostly laundry) and some errands. We split the
social security taxes and pay her when we are on vacation (at least two weeks a
year - usually more) and when she is sick. A great nanny is hard to find and
if you think she deserves to be on the high end of
whatever is being paid, $13/hour doesn't seem high to me. I don't think
there's anything more worth spending money on than quality care for your
children so if you can afford it, I'd pay her that much to keep her.
We have had our childcare provider for 4 1/2 years. In addition to
her 14 dollar/hr salary (for two children) we provide health insurance
and money for car mileage - both of these are ways that her monthly
take home is increased but neither of us pays taxes on this money. The
health insurance effectively adds a dollar a hour to her salary, tax
free.
I was a little surprised by what seemed to be somewhat high rates
quoted for nanny salaries. Obviously it depends on amount of
experience, level of responsibility (picking up, driving kids to
different places, etc.). We are now paying $6/hr/child for a share
with two children which we think is a competitive rate (based on our
search last Nov./Dec. and on talking to friends with nannies). We
also pay holidays and two weeks vacation. When we were looking we
found the range was from $5/hr/child - $7/hr/child for shares with two
children. Rates for taking care of one child ranged from $8/hr -
$10/hr, but the child care providers charging $10/hr had many years
of experience (10+). Anyway, that's just our experience, but we
didn't go through a nanny agency. Just looked through BANANAS and
this list.
When I looked recently, the rates for one child ran mostly from
$8/hr to $10/hr. People with more experience, fluent English,
and a car were on the higher end. For two children, there was
more variability. I saw rates from $8 to $15 for two, with most
around $10/hr. Shares tended to be about $6 or $7/hr each.
I do know a few relatively well-to-do families who have very
experienced nannies with fluent English and a car, who pay more.
My guess is that parents who can afford it are paying above
the market to retain someone they really like (probably most of
us with average incomes wish we could pay our nannies more!).
Jan 1999
We pay $8/hr for one child, and guarantee a minimum monthly payment of
$1300 (even if hours worked that month fall under the minimum). Some
light housekeeping if there's time.
I have a nanny share and she charges us $6.00/hour between 8am and 6pm
and any hours before or after she charges $6.50. This cost is per child
and there are two children. We do not ask her to do any household
chores. For one child she charges $8.00/hour.
She does use her own car and we plan to begin paying her for gas...
We pay her share of FICA, etc, but not her portion of the income tax.
I'll be curious to see how her wages compare. She is due a raise soon
and she gives me the impression other nannies make $7/hr but we're not
ready for that. The comparisons may help me also.
p.s. I do think experience is a consideration and our nanny has about
14 years experience.
We pay $6/hour for a share (the other family pays her $6 also. She
cares for both infants at the same time. When she is caring for just my
child, I pay her $9/hour, which I consider high, but I also occasionally
have her watch my older child too during that time and don't pay more
for that. We expect her to wash up some dishes and fold laundry in
addition to her childcare duties, but only when the babies are sleeping.
In reality, she doesn't do much of that.
We have had multiple nannies (for one child, live out) and paid between
$11/hr and $12/hr depending on experience.
We pay $10/hr (!) for our nanny. She does a bit of cleaning: I've come
home to a sparkling, shiny, kitchen floor, our rumply bed made-up, baby
laundry done, and the house generally tidied up. However, some days
she's not able to do so because of my child's mood. She comes to our
house and looks after our son two days a week.
1. 10.00/hr
2. one child
3. not a share; just our family
4. additional duties: nothing regular, but ocassionally, sweeping,
dusting,dishes
We pay our nanny $7/hr to take care of our 1 year old full-time. We
also pay her taxes. If she takes care of 2 babies, then she earns
$11/hr. We live in Oakland. She doesn't do any cleaning.
A friend of mine who has a nanny part-time for 12 hrs/week pay $8/hr to
care for a 1 year old. She also lives in Oakland.
Another friend of mine lives in Livermore and pays $8/hr part-time for 2
kids, 3 and 5 1/2. rates do vary.
We have a fabulous nanny that works 40 hrs/week (four 10-hour days),
caring for two kids ages 4 and 2; she drives my 4-year-old to preschool
(3 days a week) and does all the laundry for the family (YAHOO!) She
also does other light housekeeping and errands. We pay her $10/hr plus
medical insurance and we pay all the nanny taxes.
9.50/hr + all taxes + $15/week gas/food allowance
takes care of one child 50 hours/week, does all housework, laundry and
grocery shopping. We've also given her various personal loans over the
past three years.
Insurance Alert:
I just read in Kiplinger's Magazine that the nanny has to have special
insurance coverage if she/he drives your child around. They consider
it commercial use of the vehicle and will not cover claims under
astandard
auto policy. We will pay the additiional premium for our nanny.
Hourly vs. Salary
I am currently in a share situation where we have been paying the nanny at
a salaried monthly rate of $1900 (soon to be $2000) based on 42hr/week with
two kids. She has all the benefits of being paid on salary including: 2
weeks paid vacation, paid holidays, paid sick days, pay when we chose not
to have our child in care or if she needs to leave early or take a day off
for her own family matters. All of this seems fare to us.
Several times in the past year, however, she has wanted to change the pay
structure to be paid hourly at $12/hr. but still keep all of the same
benefits. It seems to me that if you are paying someone hourly then you
only pay them for the hours that they are actually with your kid (plus
maybe some vacation time). Am I just being cheap? What do other people do
as far as benefits are concerned when they pay hourly?
Basically she says she is going to quit unless we give her what she wants.
We really like her and she clearly LOVES the kids, but I don't want to feel
like I'm being manipulated or given an ultimatum. Any insight would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks-
It sounds to me like your nanny just wants a raise in her monthly salary. If
you pay $12 per hour for a 42 hour workweek, the average month has 4.3
weeks, she should get about $2167 instead of the $1900/$2000 per month you
are currently paying.
I had a similar sort of communication problem with my nanny when we set her
salary - I felt an hourly wage meant that I should only pay for hours
worked, and yet she wanted to be treated like a salaried employee. I think
the core of the problem is that when nannies compare wages they think about
"how much per hour do I make?" rather than "how much per month do I
earn?"
If you really like her, if you can possibly afford it, pay her the extra
$167 per month she's asking for. $12 per hour for two kids seems
reasonable, frankly. (I pay $15 per hour for two if that makes you feel any
better - plus two weeks vacation, sick leave, taxes, etc etc!)
I'm in a similar situation that you are. Our nannie lives with us and
takes care of our 17-month old son and currently makes $1,500 plus room
and board, car, gas, and benefits -- vacation, sick pay, end-of-year
bonus, to name a few. She works from 7:30 am to 5:00 pm. Fridays, I let
her go home around 2:00pm. On the weekends she goes home to her family,
who lives in Daily City. Whenever her daughter or husband are sick, I
take them to the doctor, pay for private consultation, medication,etc.
Also, they don't speak English well (I'm Brazilian and so is our nannie)
and I take care of all their home affairs -- e.g. problems with PacBell
or PG&E. Why? Because we really like her and she absolutely loves our
son and our son loves her. I trust and admire the way she treats our son.
Anyway, I'm due with our second child in four weeks and told her that in
December her salary will be $2,000. Nonetheless, I will be working from
home, and it is very unlikely that she will take care of the two of them
alone, and most likely my older soon is going to a part-time daycare
twice/week. (Any recommendations for the Berkeley Hills/Montclair area?)
She is clearly not happy and hopped for $2,500... My husband and I are
very generous but we think she is not being reasonable. It seems your
nannie is the same. You pay her very well, she wants hourly rate plus all
the previous benefits. All I can say is that my employeer does not pay me
for the hours I don't work, nor for holidays or vacation. It is just part
of the hourly rate structure. I really don't think you are being cheap,
and you are treating her as a professional. Perhaps you should explain
the reality of the game when it comes to the trade offs of montly salary
versus hourly rate. Good luck, Valeria-
To the person inquiring about hourly vs salary nanny care. We pay an
hourly rate for a given set schedule. This is a set weekly salary
and so pay her the same amount each week. We pay vacation, holidays
and sick time. If we go over our hours for the week, I pay more at
the given rate. If we don't use the hours, I still pay the weekly
rate. This sort of blurs the distinction you asked about, but we
feel this is fair. We pay $10 for one child and $12 for two.
We pay our nanny an hourly rate (with three other families who share her
schedule), and we also pay her when we don't use her, when we bail out
because of illness, etc. She hasn't been sick yet that I remember but we
would pay her if she were. Essentially I pay her the same thing every
week, even if I use less time, because of two reasons: 1) she relies on
that money to help support her family, and 2) I am asking her to reserve
those hours for me, which precludes her from getting other work during
that time.
That said, we don't give her particular vacation time, we just try to all
take vacation at the same time so she can have that paid break. But
sometimes that doesn't work out.
I strongly agree that paying a predictable salary that allows for
hours and days off on both sides is far preferable to paying for
precisely the hours worked. But it seems that what she really could be
asking for is a raise from $2000 a month to $2167 a month (42 hours *
$12 = $504/week; then $504 * 4.3 = $2167/month). And that doesn't
seem like a lot. Keep that 4.3 multiplier in mind. It's really handy.
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