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We have been looking for a live in female nanny in exchange for rent. We offer a private furnished bedroom, shared bath with the kids, all utilities, all meals, and a vehicle for use. We live up in a nice cul de sac of the Redwood Heights area in the Oakland hills and I believe rent around here runs pretty high. The market value here is about $1000 for a room, especially since it's furnished and with full privileges to the rest of the house. Plus there's the utilities, food, and vehicle. We asked for 20 hours a week of cooking and childcare for our 2 preschool aged boys - hours would be weeknights from 6-9, plus cooking time. We looked in May and the first one we got, the only one who really came through and wanted the job, wasn't cut out for the task. She tried hard to do it and simply couldn't take care of our kids by herself. She made great meals and was very accommodating, but we had to let her go in July. Then we started looking again and had better luck this time. After going through everyone who were initially interested there were several who truly wanted the position. We chose someone who started last week, middle of August. I turned down two other girls who would have been good as well to choose her, and one who didn't seem to be able to do it. This girl is quick and smart, but she had previously not been a nanny, she's only taught some classes to kids. She started with us and was really good at handling the kids. She quit after only 3 days using a false reason when she realized we expect her to be able to fully take care of the kids herself on the schedule we asked for and to put in the hours that we outlined, which she knew about and agreed to. For some reason she thought she was getting a free ride? I contacted the other girls I rejected right away and was lucky enough to get one of them to come in and she will move in today.
However I'm having a lot of thoughts about this whole situation. This last person really left a bad taste in my mouth. Why is it so hard for us to find a qualified candidate after all this time? Also, why is it so hard for people to understand the value of this exchange? I really felt we were offering a lot for what we're asking and should have nothing short of a qualified person who understands they are working off rent. Can someone give me some perspective here? Am I asking for too much? Can I ask for some insight on others' experiences when it comes to having a live in nanny who worked part time in exchange for rent? I would really like to have some kind of basis of comparison to see if my expectations should change. Should I be drawing up a contract with the new renter/nanny? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks very much. Exhausted working mom
Second, it seems to me that you think you're offering a really sweet deal to someone, and it just doesn't sound that way to me. I've worked as both a nanny and a personal chef, sometimes doing personal chef work for nanny clients, and am now a work-at-home-mom (in a different industry) who would love to hire a nanny but can't afford it. Why can't I afford it? Because nannies for 2 kids here, where both you and I live, run at least $20-$25/hour. Personal chef work, the other thing you're expecting your nanny to do, is more like $35-50/hour (depending on the type of food you want prepared.) So, with 15 hours/week of childcare and 5 hours/week of cooking, you are talking about $475/week MINIMUM you are asking in return for a $1k/month room (and, really, rooms without a private bathroom rent for $1k/month? I'll bet someone could find an in-law unit with a private bathroom and kitchen/kitchenette for not much more than that.)
You will get what you pay for in terms of childcare and household help. Realize that if you are looking for a Mary Poppins-type that will make every evening lovely with a home-cooked meal and wrangling your two tired children solo, the deal you're offering probably won't attract this miracle worker. People are smart enough to realize they can do this kind of work (at easier hours, not the witching hour/dinner hour every single day), make more money than your room+shared bathroom is worth, and have their own space. I don't even like sharing a bathroom with my OWN small child. you'd never know I lived in the servants' quarters
If you have a nice home, you can afford to pay someone for 20 hours a week of work. Really. Also, your kids are young so remember, you won't pay that $$ forever - just several more years, which actually does go very quickly. If you need the rental income, just find a tenant. Make your life easy and be happy:)
Wait....I just re-read your posting....you want this person to do from 6pm to 9pm every weeknight? You mean this person needs to cook, clean, put them to bed, and more on a rent exchange? Sorry, but I think you are asking too much and wish you luck but think it will be difficult to find someone who fits all these bills. Childcare is hard
If e.g. the nanny wants to go to school, she will need extra hours for that, and money to pay tuition and other fees. Clothes, phone, cosmetics & toiletries, transportation, books, socializing all cost money. So, while she could theoretically work in the hours she is not in charge of your kids, she still would need some income from you.
Nanny rate for 2 kids is easily $20/hour, especially when she is not just watching the kids, but cooking & doing other chores. For 20h/hour that is $80/day. For average 22 work days/month that amounts to $1760/month. $1000 for a room is rather steep and most definitely should include utilities. How big is ithe room? In any case there should be about $800 left to pay her. Please give her a reasonable hourly wage, so she can also have a life outside your home. I am afraid nannies won't stay long witout any additional pay.
First, even assuming that the room you're offering should be valued at market ($1k/mo) -- which is an incorrect assumption (see below) -- that amounts to $1k for 90 hours of work; roughly $11/hour. That's roughly *half* of the going rate for nannying two kids. No one with any market option would ever consider taking you up on this.
Second, it makes no sense to value your room at ''market,'' because *no one* would spend the same money on a room in the house of her employer, living with the kids she is responsible for watching, as she would spend on a comparable room living with people with whom she does not have that power dynamic. I think you need to discount the value of that room by at least a third -- at which point you're offering less than $10/hour for a $20/hour job.
Bottom line: unless you can offer an additional $1000-1500 cash on top of the room, you're not going to get anyone remotely qualified, and you should rely on a different childcare option. Indentured Servitude
1) A quick search on craigslist suggests that your estimate for room rental is a little above average for the area (even considering utilities included). Especially since the situation will be renting a room from a family, rather than being cohabitants of a whole shared space.
2) Given the seemingly endless questions on BPN on what an equitable rate is for nanny, you're low-balling by a long shot. Since you're expecting 20 hours a week for cooking/care- that amounts to 12.50/hour and the going rate of caring for 2 children is hovering closer to 20.00/hour
3) You refer to these women as ''girls'' suggesting a) condescension b) they are very young. If the latter, it's likely that they don't know what they are getting into.
In your situation it seems like a better route would be to host an au pair. I'm not sure of the specifics but the living situation, hours of care required, and minimal additional stipend may better suit your needs. anon
Are you home those evening hrs but expect her to put 2 kids to bed by herself without the kids bothering you? This seems like it might be hard-after all, if it was easy, you'd probably do it yourself. And this is often the time of day that kids and parents struggle the most. How hard or easy are you as a family to live with? Just suggesting you reflect on how easy going or not you might be and how welcoming the parameters you set for someone are to live there. What did you tell the person about friends/overnight guests/coming in late, drinking, etc when off duty. If these ladies are young adults this is all important.
How difficult are your kids to manage and what ages are they? Maybe you would get further if in the initial discussion you said it was a cooperative dialogue as to what the expectations would be. Maybe EVERY weeknight is hard or unappealing? Did you ask their needs and wants prior to picking and figure out if they fit with yours? Could you ask the one who just quit nicely for feedback? Could you connect with her and just honestly and with an open heart say that you understand it didn't work out, her reason seemed not honest and it would be really helpful for you to know what, if anything, you did wrong or didn't work so you can find someone new and not make the same mistakes. maybe you will learn something.
I think you should approach this knowing the right fit may not be easy. I would definitely offer to pay someone a few nights a week for a few weeks to come over and do the routine before moving them in to see how it goes if possible.
Good luck the livin ain't always easy
Here are some legal guidelines to hiring a nanny, easily available after a quick web search: http://www.babycenter.com/0_legal-requirements-for-employing-a-nanny_5946.bc https://www.care.com/homepay/nanny-tax-guide http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/hiring-workers-home-legal-requirements-29728.html
You may be interested in this recent news story, which involved a family attempting to fire a nanny who was working in exchange for housing, with no pay. You may need to be reminded that tenant laws in Berkeley make it very hard to evict someone who has taken up residence in your home: http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/27/us/nanny-squatter/
I am continually amazed at the way parents in this area treat their nannies. The argument is usually that they simply can't afford to pay a living wage to the person caring for their most valuable assets. If you are feeling this overwhelmed and overworked, may I suggest that you quit your day job and run your home in the manner you seem to feel entitled to. If that is not something you can afford, maybe you could see your way to adjusting your lifestyle so that you are not operating at such a deficit. Honestly. It's mind-boggling.
You fired your first nanny despite making ''great meals'' and being ''accommodating,'' which indicates you asked her to make a lot of changes and she really tried to please you, but evening childcare for 2 rowdy pre-schoolers was too much.
The second one quit almost immediately once she realized what she had taken on: simultaneous child-care during the most difficult hours of the day, and dinner preparation (and clean up?), while being cheerful and accommodating.
You need to re-think what you are offering versus what you are expecting.
--A single room in the home of a family you work for isn't worth $1,000/month, even if it includes ''free run of the house''. It's not her house, it's your home. She can't do whatever she wants there.
--A bathroom shared with two pre-school children isn't a perk, it's a pain. For many people it's a deal-breaker. Take $300 off the value of the room right there.
--The car is a great perk but I am sure is required because there's very little public transit. And I am sure she has the use of it primarily for local errands and picking up the kids, so it's not like the freedom of owning your own car.
--The nanny has very little protection. She's a live-in servant. It's a position that leaves her completely at the mercy of your unwritten expectations. If nanny doesn't measure up, she has to find somewhere new to live, although she's not paid so she has no way to save money to move.
--She has no way to take care of personal needs, medical care, etc. She can't save a dime, so it's a trap.
Please re-think this position. You need to define it so your nanny is treated like a person in her own right, not as an appliance to be tossed out if she doesn't work. Allocate more hours; write up a contract that lists expectations, responsibilities, and rights of both sides; pay some cash. --A little bit shocked
Also, your math calculations are pretty poor, if you're expecting 20 hours a week at the normal nanny rate at about $18-20 per hour, that's $360-400 per week for your two kids. That's at least $1440 - 1600 per month. $1000 a month is far under that in value.
So you're getting inexperienced people, asking for far more work than is fair in this situation, and they have no idea what to do on the job. You can consider an au pair, and pay a fair wage.
Living with a family is like being on the job 24/7, even if they are pretty good about giving you freedom and letting you have not working time. I've never wanted such a job, as there are very few boundaries and the potential for boundary problems are huge (even in a professional nanny position, boundary issues are rampant, in my experience).
Try reading up on fair wages, how to host a live in nanny, and fair expectations for this kind of job. I think it's possible, but not at your current expectations. You need to redo your math and really consider what is valuable to others (not just to yourself). recalculating...
For the past year, we have had a live-in nanny (and a nannyshare) who is also a family member. This is a delicate situation with a triple relationship going on (roommate, employer/employee, sibling) so from the beginning we have committed to keep lines of communication open. And for the most part it works for all parties, especially my son, which is the most important thing. She genuinely loves my son and is great with him. However, she she lives quite the party lifestyle. We don't want to interfere with her personal life. But sometimes she makes us nervous by partying all weekend long, coming home late Sunday night or even early Monday morning. She doesn't do drugs, but does drink alcohol to excess on the weekends. Once had to I call in sick, not knowing if she was coming home at all (she did at 6AM). We had a talk with her about communication, but her improvement was temporary. She is mostly responsible, but with just enough incidents like that one to make us wonder when the next one is coming. Maybe a handful in the past year. After such an incident, I had a talk with her about moderation. Having fun in her free time and finding time on Sunday to rest before work Monday morning. (Like the rest of the working world) I have seen her crawl out of bed in a condition I wouldn't want her watching my child, and out of the house to watch her other child. When confronted, she is very good about hearing and acknowledging our feedback. But any change is minimal and temporary. My husband had a long talk with her 2 nights ago about being a responsible adult, managing priorities and respecting the house. What we don't want is to enforce rules or curfews. We just want her to regulate herself. I try to remember that if she didn't live with us, we wouldn't know what we know about her lifestyle. But we all understand that this is a side effect of the arrangement. She watches up to 3 children at a time and this is no small feat. It requires a clear head and a decent nights sleep. My husband was clear that if she did not start doing these things, we would have to let her go (honestly if she wasn't a family member, and wasn't living with us, we would have done this long ago.) This is not something we want to do. We do not want her to be homeless, we do not want to find another roommate or nanny, and most importantly, do not want to put my 2-year-old son through such an upheaval. So I would like to hear from others who have a live-in nanny (not necessarily family) about how you handle the dual relationship. Do you set boundaries about what time they come home on work nights? Where exactly do you draw this line? Didn't sign up to parent my nanny
We have a one bedroom apartment on the ground floor of our home in Alameda, and we are expecting our second child at the end of December. We are hoping to find a nanny or caretaker that would live in the apartment and provide part-time care either in exchange for rent or in partial exchange for rent. Does anyone have experience with this type of situation? We don't need full-time care, but do need at least three days per week and one evening. Is it reasonable to ask for this? We would keep a regular schedule, determine a range of total care hours, keep the rent reduction the same each month even if we did not use all hours, and then we presume the person would have another job or be in school outside of the time we need them. Thanks in advance for any experience you can share. Sue
My partner and I are expecting twins in July and need to find a nanny. We will both be home initially, but after a few months I will be returning to work. We need someone during the day, but anticipate that there will be times we would want some help overnight. I'm reluctant to have someone live with us full time, he is more open to that idea. We have an extra bedroon, though it is not attached to its own bathroom, on the main floor of the house; our room and the nursery will be up one floor.
I'd appreciate hearing people's thoughts about sharing space with a nanny, as well as what we should expect to pay in salary. One thing that occurs to me is that if we want someone to be available at night and during the day, it might need to be two people. How common is it for people to have a daytime nanny and then someone else who could come over some nights? Thanks! mom2b
Nannies need rest too and they get burned out. I see it. The best nannies usually are FT, on salary, and their families keep them forever, but the best ones never work 24 hour shifts. They charge a tiny bit more and often want taxes paid and paid time off, etc. But they are worth it. If you can get a nanny/night nurse who has done twins before, perhaps from a twin network, maybe one whose current twins are going to preschool, you would probably be really happy. Just my two cents. Good luck! carrie
It would be very hard to find someone to do both and I think you will not get the best result as the person will be burnt out. The other thing is that day time nannies would not have the same training and experience as a night time nanny.
In general night nannnies come over at 10pm and stay until 6am so she could just stay in your extra room (with babies right after birth, and then have a monitor once babies are ready for their own rooms). The day time nanny could then come over and do the day shift.
You will find that it is actually hard to come across live-in nannies and that you will still end up paying a similar salary as a live out.
I hope this helps!! Lindsay
My husband and I are expecting our first baby in April. A few of our friends have recommended that we get a live-in Chinese nanny for our first month. It is a Chinese custom to hire an experienced lady to come live in your house for a month. The nanny cooks nutritious food for the mother and helps to take care of the baby, so the mother can rest after delivery. My husband thinks this is a good idea, but I am not sure I want someone else to be taking care of our first-ever baby. Tired as I might be, wouldn't I want to do this myself? Our parents will be coming to visit, but they are elderly and have health problems and cannot be depended upon to do much baby care. My husband will be home for a few weeks after the baby is born; after that, he will return to work. I wanted to hear from anyone else who has hired a live-in nanny for the first month, especially from someone who has used one of those traditional Chinese nannies. Was it helpful? Was your nanny any good? Do I need one? Can I just hire someone to do some cooking and light housework instead? This is our first baby so I have no idea what to expect, or what to do to prepare; any insight, advice, or experience would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! --TZ
If people do come to help, or if you hire someone, your job is baby and they can do whatever else you usually do. Taking baby to bed with a lot of something to drink and resting and breastfeeding on and off for a few days is a great way to recover and to bond and to make milk come in faster. If you have a lot of 'expert help', you might pick up a few tips but you also might end up feeling inadequate and in the end you're the one who will learn the most about your baby and what s/he likes and needs. Having another person besides dad in the mix just confuses things, to my way of thinking. Good luck with whatever you decide!
Just make sure you get someone you like and who will do want you want her to do. I think paid help could actually be a lot better than a family member - they'll do things the way you want and you don't have to think about whether they are judging you (the way I always feel like my MIL is).
No, you don't really need or want a short-term ''nanny'' who is going to take over caring for your baby! However, you may find yourself very appreciative of having someone else around who can change diapers, teach you how to use a baby carrier, help you learn to breastfeed, show you some baby- soothing tricks, help you develop a daily routine that works for your family, etc. Of course, in order for this to happen, the person you hire must not only be good at caring for a newborn baby, but must also be supportive of YOUR parenting style and preferences. Among the most obvious examples: Assuming you intend to breastfeed, it's counterproductive in the extreme to hire someone who considers preparing formula bottles part of her job description.
The ideal length of time to have some household help, and whether that help should be ''live-in'' or not, varies from family to family, depending on what kind of birth experience you have as well as the size of your home, your cultural background, your personal preferences about privacy. Some people go stir crazy if they sit at home alone but for the baby for a week, while others really enjoy having a ''babymoon'' with no ''outside'' people disturbing them at all for a month or more. Most, of course, are somewhere in between.
Bottom line, I'd go ahead and hire someone, in keeping with tradition, but I'd make sure that person's job was mostly to take care of the parents and the household, not the baby - and that I got along with her well enough to be sure she wouldn't be undermining me as a new mom when I was at my most vulnerable! Interview some people and see if you can find the right fit. Good luck! Holly
There's nothing wrong with getting help! You can't do it all by yourself and it's very important that you rest and recover. I know how w/ first-borns we want to do everything and spend all our time with our baby. But get someone to help you clean the house, cook meals, wash the baby. Then you can spend the time you do have not sleeping bonding with the baby. Some live-in nannies will sleep w/ baby and bring them to you when it's time to feed. Just figure out what you want and find one who'll do it your way. If you don't want to do live-in, then you can try ishan house. They deliver food for the sitting month. anon
I'm considering having a live-in nanny, and also sharing this nanny with another family. I'm wondering what the typical terms are, assuming rent and utilities are provided. Specifically:
- Weekly salary to care for two kids? Could it work to have the
other family that's sharing the nanny pay $10/hour, so the nanny
would earn $400/week?
- Is food included? How does this work?
- Are other benefits provided?
- Does the person have full run of the home as would a roommate, or is it understood that there are kitchen privileges and occasional use of common areas, but otherwise the nanny's primary living area is her room? Thanks. JB
I was given a salary of approximately $400/ week for a set schedule of 50 hours of work (including one evening), watching 3 young children (same family), as well as a furnished room and private bathroom, private phone line, use of a mini-van during work hours and a sedan on my off hours, weekends off, 2 weeks paid vacation, paid holidays, and health benefits. My employer did factor in what a typical studio rent would have been in the area I was working to set the salary, but was also aware of the going rates for professional nanny and wanted to be competitive. My room had a television and a seating area, so I didn't feel much need to be in the main house on my off-hours, but I was also provided food and had free use of the kitchen.
Since experienced nanny-share providers earn upwards of $20/ hour and rooms in shared housing can rent for as little as $500/month, there needs to be some serious thought given to what benefits the nanny would receive from the situation you are offering if you want to attract a quality provider. once a nanny, now a mom
2/ Yes, all food is included as part of the deal.
3a/Hiring a live-in nanny means you pay all the basic living expenses. This includes food eaten at home, housing costs incl. utilities and usually phone/internet line. Also, you pay for all the TP and basic cleaning products. Of course you'll have to build in paid sick time and annual vacation time for her too. Nanny usually pays for her own toiletries.
3b/ Points of negotiation. Many families offer other things to become more attractive to a quality caregiver. This could include any of the following: long distance phone charges (or a cell phone with minutes), health insurance, gym membership, car, car insurance, as you see fit. Everyone knows we're in a recession. If your income has been hit, nannies will understand they can't have everything on that list. Just offer what you can reasonably afford and feel good about.
4/ Honestly, in my experience, sometimes yes and sometimes no (allowed in the house vs. stay in their room). But let's paint a picture: you're working for someone and during your free time at home, you're confined to your jail cell...uh, I mean bedroom. You're begrudgingly allowed time to quickly and quietly get your own food and occasionally be in other parts of the house, but you always feel strongly unwanted. Does this sound like a fun life or does it feel more like slavery, where you're barely allowed to exist as your own person? I have been the nanny expected to perform whenever wanted, and then expected to be unseen when not wanted. I was made to feel very unwelcome at other times, even if no words were spoken. It was awful. I personally feel that while you can get away with the ''stay in your room and just come out for food briefly'', it's a terrible thing to do. If you aren't open to living as roommates and don't have the setup to offer her a guest cottage, then you're not the personality type to host a live-in employee.
5/ More things to consider: Your nanny will be an adult who has a personal life outside of work. She will want to live her life as she sees fit. Are there any possible incompatibilities there, say, if her boyfriend sleeps over sometimes, or is she not allowed to have a sex life in the home she makes her life in?
My family finds itself in an unusual situation. We recently moved abroad from the Bay Area and we brought the nanny who has taken care of our child for the past nine months with us to our new country and home. The nanny is young and unattached and liked the idea of travel and we had space in the new house. Our nanny works part-time and so has a lot of free time. We retained our original pay arrangement with the nanny (same hourly rate, no charge for room) because we felt it was a lot to ask someone to relocate even though it was also an exciting opportunity and it was important to us to have a consistent caretaker for our child, especially during such a transition.
While we really like this person, we have found that we do not enjoy living with an additional person. We have also ended up having to spend much more time together than we had envisioned, including meals, for which we pay and which we cook. It has certainly been helpful to have the same caregiver with our child, but we are wondering how long we will able to sustain this relationship, both financially and emotionally. How should we handle this situation? We do not wish to alienate someone who has been a positive force in our family for many months, but we also do not think that we can continue as is. anon.
It really is a tough spot you're in, but just remember you asked her to join you for a reason, and being that she's been there so long, I'm sure an open conversation will be ok and good for you both!
Good luck! Former ''Live in''
Since you have a good relationship with her, and in your email you clearly express concern in wanting to do the right thing, that will help. As the holidays are coming, it's a good time to make a change. My suggestion would be to sit down with her and explain how much you have valued having her help you and how important she is to your family. Then I would explain that your experience abroad has turned out different from what you anticipated, and that living with someone outside your family isn't something you're ok with at this point. I would take FULL responsibility for being the one who set up this failing arrangement. (Not to be harsh on you, but you did set it up - as I set up mine, which also failed.) You thought it would be nice, but had problems you didn't see. Apologize to her for not realizing the situation fully.
Then, I would say to be as generous as you can afford to. Obviously pay for her flight back home, and I would think several weeks pay. If she leaves soon, she could come back and find something for the start of the new year, which is a time people are often looking for nannies. It won't be easy, but considering today's calendar date, I would say the sooner the better. Good luck Say it sooner than later
I would like to hear from other people about pay and benefits packages for nannies. Ours wants more money and I want to hear what others think of what we are providing. Our arrangement is a bit complicated. She lives in a 500+ sq ft studio on our property with her boyfriend. Utilities, cable, internet etc are included. We pay her for 35 hrs a wk - if she works less then we ''bank'' the hours for evening babysitting. Her regular hrs are 12:30-6 M-F and one evening a week. In addition she gets a min of two weeks paid holiday. This past year she actually got 3 weeks (one week xmas, one week summer then five days randomly). We also paid her for a week at full sick pay and two weeks 2/3rds sick pay. Also we went away for 2 weeks and paid her full pay for those weeks (we asked for 20 banked hrs in exchange but have been unable to use them). Also she gets about 10 paid holidays a year.
We have 3 children but she only has two of them (4 yr old twins) generally. The older one (8yrs) she typically drives from school to after school program - and home in the evening. For this we pay 15/hr for 'non-rent hrs' and 12/hr for rent hrs (to equal $1200 a month). This means 23 hrs a week for rent and 12 hrs a week paid. This works out to $23,700 a year or $456 a week for 35 hrs work. Her increae request is based on start of 2nd yr employment
We are very flexible even about things were are not thrilled over. IE: she has been having health issues and her boyfriend has been filling in for her a great deal of the time over the last few months. We like him but he is more like a babysitter than a nanny. In her absence we do not get the coordination/communication or light housekeeping (kid alundry, toy pick up etc) that we get with her.
She is asking us to pay her $250 a week cash plus the rent for 35 hrs ($27,352 a year) & $15 hr for any hrs over that. I suppose I wouldn't mind paying that if I felt I was getting what I hired her for but we have had to to extraordinarily flexible with her health issues. It is so hard - we want to be supportive but also need our needs met.
I don't want to be unfair - maybe I am out of touch. Would others please let me know what they think and how they strucure their pay and benefits. - LB
When our daughter started pre-school for 3.5 hrs/day;3days/wk, our nanny worked 30hrs/wk, including light housekeeping. We provided $300/wk+meals Mon-Fri +4 wks pd vacation+private room and bath+(no transportation...moved to big city)+telephone, internet,TV, utilities+1 weeks pay bonus.
When our daughter was in kindergarten 4 hrs/day;5 days/wk the nanny worked 30 hrs/wk, including light housekeeping and cooking 3 dinners/wk. We paid $300/wk+one bedroom apt+telephone,internet,TV,utilities+no transportation+5 meals/wk+1 week's pay bonus+5 weeks paid vacation.
She was sick only 2 days. We modified the arrangement for
8wks when she recovered from a broken arm. She paid the medical expenses
of lt$100. 3nights/yr she provided overnight care. 2/yr, she babysat
during evenings in exchange for hours that she normally would have
worked, except that we we did not need her help. She had visitors at
any time and performed her private business or socializing during her
caregiving hours. All of this was documented in a letter of
understanding to facilitate the management of each others expectations.
An additional benefit to the nanny: she relied upon us as ''family away
from family'' on numerous of occasions.
curious about nannies too
Other folks I know of who have had live-in nannies offered room and board in exchange for 20 hours of childcare then payed $15 an hour for any babysitting beyond the 20 that is in exchange for rent Julie
We are planning on finding a full-time live-in nanny for our two children (2 mos. and 22 mos.) We will provide 2 rooms and a bathroom in our north Berkeley home (part of common living space). Would like some advice about current rates for full- time live-in nannies in this area and any other advice in making this transition would be much appreciated.
We offer: Private studio apartment (large) with bath and full kitchen, separate entrance, parking, laundry, Cable TV, all utilities.
For our nanny who was with us for 3 years (took care of our one child from 2 1/2 months to 3 years old) $325 (started at $300). Normal hours 8am to 6pm M-F and as needed on weekends (not much).
We have a new nanny now, and I feel we are overpaying..... $300 a week (so same rate as we started our original nanny), but because our child is in pre-school, she is only working 25 hours or so a week. I have noticed on BPN that many people ''trade'' about 20 hours a week for a place to live, thus the sense of ''overpaying.'' PLUS, we bought a used car for our new nanny (which we own) and pay insurance and gas which I would Never do again as it turns out she uses it primarily for personal use (like 800 miles a month! and expects us to pay for repairs!) Our 1st nanny had her own car and we paid her x cents (I can't remember - the IRS guidelines) per mile for shuttling our son to the park.
Hope this helps. Susan
I have been looking for a mon-fri live-in nanny for 3 months now in san ramon/danville area but with no luck. Besides hiring agencies, any other suggestions how I can locate one. MS
We are in between nannies right now. We are trying to do a share with another family. We found a great nanny but are having trouble finding another family to share her with. Our alternate solution is to find a live-in to help keep the cost to a reasonable amout since we need someone full time. We are becoming very familiar with the costs for shared situations but don't know what the range of salaries are for a live-in. Any information would be appreciated.
mother in need of info
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