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Has anyone had either or both of these procedures? If so who did you use,
how did you find the doctor, how much pain were you in afterwards, how
much did it cost, and most importantly how do you like your results??? Was
it worth it?
anon of course
I have had an upper face lift and eyelids done about 3-4 years ago and
I am still very happy with the results. I was fortunate to have a
partner to look after me for the first few days. My face was so swathed
and swollen as to be unrecognizable for days. Lots of Vicodin for the
pain and Arnica for the bruising got me through. I wouldn't plan on
returning to work for at least 7-10 days (and then you may look like a
movie star in dark glasses!). My surgeon was Dr. Robert Aycock, (925)
937-8377 in Walnut Creek or (415) 925-1700, Greenbrae office. Google
his website for some good before and after pictures.
Lately I've noticed that my face is falling. I've been looking very
tired and my face looks kind of droopy around the eyes, checks and
mouth, and my forehead is kind of wrinkled. I'm considering cosmetic
surgery or non-invasive treatments such as Restylane/Perlane. Does
anyone have any experience with facial cosmetic surgery and/or the
non-invasive techniques? i'd like to hear about your experiences.
I've consulted with two board certified plastic surgeons and
interestingly they both had different ideas as to what needed to be
done with some overlap. One recommended a brow lift and eye lift and
the other recommended a mid-face lift. (Both thought my neck/chin was
fine and that I could start out with Resylane, etc. treatments
instead of surgery.) Also does anyone have experience for this sort
of thing with Dr. Loren Eskenazi or Dr. Elizabeth Lee? If so i'd like
to hear about it, and also welcome recommendations for or warnings
against cosmetic surgeons that you may have had experience with.
I have had an eye lift, upper face lift, laser treatments and
restylene. If you want to email me, I would be happy to set up a
time when we could chat.
I don't have any recommendations, just a warning -- I saw recently
that there is a very slight chance (.5 or .05) that fillers around
the eyes can cause blindness. The filler can move and affect
I highly recommend Dr. Robert Aycock in Walnut Creek. I had an upper and
lower eyelift and laser resurfacing by him last June. The results are
fabulous, very natural. I continue to use his office for botox, etc; and
will return to him for future cosmetic procedures (saving up for that
Most surgeons, including Dr. Aycock, donate their surgical time and
expertise performing reconstructive surgeries free of charge, usually
for children. But us 40-somethings who want (not ''need'') tummy tucks
and face lifts and boob jobs will pay top dollar for them - as it should
be. Choose the surgeon whom you feel most comfortable with and be
prepared to pay for it. For me that surgeon was (and is) Dr. Aycock.
used a local cosmetic surgeon, specifically for a face or neck lift? How
was your experience? Results? Cost? etc.? Any you would steer away
from? How did you find the one you ended up using? How did you decide
between a face and a neck lift, or did you do both?
Will a cosmetic surgeon normally do a free initial consultation?
Thanks for any guidance.
A couple years back I had blepheroplasty (removing sagging
skin above eyes) and a face lift at age 46 or 47. My surgeon
was Dr. Robert Aycock, 925-937-8377 in Walnut Creek or
415-925-1700 at their Greenbrae office. He was recommended
to me by my boyfriend of the time as Dr. Aycock had worked
on his ex-wife. You have an initial free consultation and
they may take before photos then. You can also find lots of
information and a before/after photo gallery on his
website.I was very happy with my results. Everyone is amazed
that I am 50. I continue to go back to him for laser
treatments. He also hold seminars, so you could ask his
receptionist for the schedule. Go for it. The discomfort
after surgery is well worth the final results!
I had a facelift (which includes a necklift) performed by Dr.
Michael Cedars in Oakland two years ago. I'm 54. My results look
SO natural you would never guess that I'd had a facelift. Dr.
Cedars is very honest and his staff is very friendly and discreet.
Dr. Cedars was recommended to me by my internist and by my
pediatrician. When I went to him he had served as the Chief of
Plastic Surgery at both Alta Bates-Summit Hospital and Childrens
Hospital Oakland for many years. He's been voted ''Best Doctor in
Plastic Surgery'' by other Bay Area doctors for many years. His
partner is Katie Rodan of Pro-Activ fame. His fee was very
competive and he is a Board Certified Plastic Surgeon. I am very
pleased with my result and would highly recommend you consult Dr.
Cedars if you are considering plastic surgery. Good Luck! You
won't be disappointed.
I'm trying to find a trusted, experienced cosmetic surgeon for some work on my chin and
face, and haven't seen any recommendations in the archives for that sort of work. Does
anyone have a recommendation for a surgeon, especially in the East Bay?
Hello,I had a minor procedure done about 2yrs.ago.I am very happy with the
results.Dr.Howard Lee was recommended to me by a friend who had a few
things done.She looked amazing and was very happy with her results.I would
recommmend him to anyone.He is located in Pinole and is very good at what
he does.I am a very happy person with my results.GOOD LUCK to you!!
I'm sure you'll get a few responses, but it's worth checking out Dr.
Elizabeth Lee in Berkeley. I did not go to her for any facial cosmetic
surgery, but a good friend had a neck lift with her. She looks fabulous
and enjoyed her experience with Dr. Lee. In my own surgery experience, I
found Dr. Lee to be very objective, approachable, and caring -- plus my
surgery turned out great! www.artfulsurgery.com
I used Dr. Robert Aycock years ago for a cosmetic procedure. He did a
superb job; I've never regretted it! He never tried to talk me into any
procedure - frankly, he could give a hoot if my boobs were too small or
too far apart or if I had excess fat on my thighs and tummy. He took on
my case because I cared about these things. He worked with my canvas and
enhanced what I had. Safety was very important to him, so he worked
conservatively and he kept my expectations realistic from the get-go. He
has offices in Walnut Creek as well as Marin. Anonymous
I've seen Dr. Elisabeth Lee in Berkeley (near Alta Bates) and I
trust her very much. She talked me out of a face lift as too aggressive
and started me on Obaji (a skin care regimen) & I've been very happy with
it & her as a physician. I don't know about her skill as a surgeon but I
felt good about the consultation & the recommendations after. Good luck!
I am a 55-year-old female who is starting to notice her age. I
don't mind my incipient crows feet, which I think are kind of
distinguished, and the silver on top is pretty, but I do dislike
the sagging of my formerly elegant, clear-cut jaw line. I have
the impression that the only way to clean up a sagging jaw is a
full-scale face lift, and I would never spend that much money
for nonessential surgery. (I also hate the weird, Nancy Reagan
look it gives one's eyes.) But I thought I would check anyway.
Is there anything minor to be done for a sagging jaw?
No, you don't have to get a full face lift for this. It's called
a neck lift and it is a very common cosmetic surgery for
50-something women. I got one last summer after thinking about
it for a few years. I was very discouraged looking at my jowls
and waddle in the mirror. I'm happy with it, and no one has
noticed, even my friends who knew about it, but I can really tell
a big difference. Yes it's surgery with all the not-so-wonderful
after-affects that come along with surgery, but it was not so bad
- only a small incision right beneath your chin and then one
behind each ear. I'm sorry I can't remember the actual cost. I
think it was more than 3K and less than 10K. It was basically a
really nice new computer vs. a neck lift. No contest.
seen a lot of good reviews of Elizabeth Lee on the BPN over the
years, and that's why I went to her, and was very pleased. If you
go in and talk to her, she will give you the exact cost on a
printout. If you want, you can ask her for the phone number of
her patient who had a neck lift on in July and I will be happy to
talk to you about it!
50-something waddle-less wonder
OK, I probably don't need a face lift yet..I'm 48 and I don't
like my jowels, wrinkles, and loose skin. What can I do? Is
there a ''minor'' lift procedure out there?
I have also been in the market for something that will lift my
face back up to where it was a few years back but aren't ready
for a regular facelift. My co-worker has been raving about Dr.
in Berkeley who did her necklift recently. (She
looks great!) I recently went to her to see if she could help
me and I am booked for surgery! There is this new procedure
called the ''Contour Threadlift'' that is perfect for a more
subtle lift and leaves no visible scars. You can do face,
brow, and/ or neck. At this point I am only doing the
facelift. Even if this isn't procedure isn't right for you, I
stll recommend meeting with Dr. Elizabeth Lee. She offered me
lots of options and was very knowledgable and patient.
I just heard Dr. Elizabeth Lee
speak this morning about minor
face lift procedures. She is a Board Certified Plastic Surgeon
in Berkeley, really seems to know her field, and is very
compassionate and funny! (510) 704-2170
You should definitely consult Elizabeth Lee, MD. She is a great
plastic surgeon in Berkeley and offers a variety of
treatments/services. She would definitely know how to you want
with the least invasive treatment. Everyone I know who has gone
to her is very happy with both the results and her kind nature.
See the above post about skin care and Dr. Elizabeth Lee. If
the skin care line doesn't work the way you want, she has alot
of other services including mini facials, threading, that look
interesting. I'm just on the skin care line and love it. I'm
putting off the lift. I would trust her completely. She and her
staff and great. I enjoy seeing them because they are fun and
know what they are doing. 510.704.2170 Dr. Elisabeth Lee
happy with my skin
Try microcurrent facial rejuvenation or facial acupuncture;
both help your body promote production of collagen and elastin.
There actually is a new procedure out there for lifting skin
without major surgery. It is called the Contour Thread Lift. I
recently took the course to do this procedure, because my
patients were interested in the ''thread lift.'' I should say
that I am a plastic surgeon, and it really made no sense that a
bunch of threads could achieve the results of a full surgical
facelift. I will admit that my purpose in taking the course was
to be able to intelligently explain to my patients why it was a
ridiculous procedure to do. However, I was proven wrong. What
was shown on The Today Show and Oprah left out some key clinical
steps which was why I was skeptical. This procedure does work,
has tiny incisions in the hair bearing scalp and serves a key
function in rejuvenating the face. It is a fabulous procedure
for patients who have some facial aging and sagging, but not
enough to really justify the expense and recovery of a
The threadlift is done in the operating room, under local
anesthesia in about one hour. The recovery is much quicker than
for a full facelift too.
Not everyone is an appropriate candidate for this procedure. If
you really need a facelift, this will not be enough.
I wanted to let you know that you do have options.
Local Plastic Surgeon
I've heard about a type of facelift sometimes called a ''weekend
facelift'' or a ''mini-facelift'', which is much less invasive than
a full facelift. Has anyone had one? Can you shed any light on
whether it was worth it, and would you recommend your plastic
The weekend facelift is a procedure where large stitches are put
into the cheek through very small incisions and then run up to
the temple to lift the cheek. While this is very minimal
surgery, it also, unfortunately provides minimal duration of
results, because the suture is not strong enough to permanently
overcome the drooping of the face caused by gravity over a long
period of time. More permanent correction requires more
That having been said, not all elements of facial aging require
full facelifts. Changes can be made in both the appearance and
health of the skin with skin care, wrinkles can be improved with
fillers such as Collagen or Restylane (a new product which is
non animal derived) and or Botox. All of these options are non-
surgical and can be done at lunchtime. It is also now possible
to address specific areas of the face, such as the jowls and
neck, without doing a full facelift. While this necklift
procedure is surgical, it has a much speedier recovery than a
As a plastic surgeon familiar with all of the options, including
the weekend facelift, I honestly do not recommend a procedure,
even if it is minimally invasive, which does not offer good,
longlasting results. Don't give up hope though, lots of great
changes can be made without aggressive surgery, depending on
what your individual concerns and needs are. The best way to
explore your options is to meet in consultation with a plastic
surgeon who can offer you the full range of treatment options.
I hope this helps
Local Plastic Surgeon
I have an expressive face. This means that I have laugh lines
which I'm okay with, but I also have a forehead full of lines
which I notice often. They make me look tired when I am not,
and look older than I am. I also have a deeply defined mark in
the middle of my eyes like my father, and it is only going to
get worse, as I'm only in my 30s now. I am seriously
considering getting a forehead lift.
I was hoping to hear from anyone who has had this plastic
surgery operation and would be willing to share their experience.
- Are you happy that you did it and pleased with the results?
- If not, what would you have done differently?
- If you had a great doctor and experience would you give the
docotr's name and city?
- Did the surgery deliver what you expected?
- How long was recovery, how much was the operation?
Thanks very much.
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