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Seeking doctor or clinic for botox
Dec 2011
Hi, I am looking to find a reputable doctor or clinician with expertise in
administering botox injections. Please respond with any recommendations of
professionals you have used or places you have gone.
Thanks.
anon
I've seen and highly recommend plastic surgeon, Dr.
Elizabeth Lee, for Botox injections. She's the perfect
combination of super smart, down to earth, fun to visit,
extremely capable, and very experienced. You can't ask for a
better injector. The injection part of her practice is very
strong because people love their results, enjoy seeing her,
and trust her capable hands. She's extremely experienced
with all the injectables, particularly Botox. Contact her at
510-704-2170. Her address is: 2999 Regent Street, Suite 401,
Berkeley. Visit her website at: http://www.artfulsurgery.com/
anon
Botox - Looking for a doctor with a light hand
July 2011
Finally time to look into Botox for my wrinkles. Looking
for a dermatologist with a light hand for some injections. Not
looking for a frozen, expression-less face: just looking
to look slightly less wrinkly. Thanks!
Anon
Go see Dr. Elizabeth Lee for your Botox. She's very
experienced with Botox; she's a nice person; and since she's
a talented and board certified plastic surgeon, she knows
how to use the Botox so you look great. She's not pushy. She
won't try to convince you to have other procedures. She's at
510-704-2170, 2999 Regent St, Ste 401 in Berkeley by Alta
Bates Hospital. www.artfulsurgery.com
anon
Time for botox?
Jan 2011
Hi:
Am in my mid-50s and am tired of looking ''tired and grumpy'',
esp. when I'm not! Have frown lines and deep lines (Fred
Flintstone) around my mouth. Would like to hear from others
who have found solutions but am not interested in a face
lift. As vain as this may sound, is there something better
than botox, or is botox the answer?
-About how much time & money does botox cost initially and
to maintain?
-Is it worth it?
-Is it painful?
-Any cautions?
-Nextly, would prefer a Peninsula provider, if possible, if
you have a good recommendation, but willing to travel if
there is someone who is esp. good or affordable in East Bay
or elsewhere in Bay Area.
Signed, Tired of looking tired & grumpy
I have gotten Botox as well as the fillers in the deep
crevices of my smile lines. They both worked but only for
a short time frame and then it was back to wrinkles and
deep lines. I keep hoping they will come up with some sort
of facelift that is easy breezy!
wrinkly and vain
I totally hear you on the tired look.
If you don't want that look anymore but don't have the time or the money for
a face lift, then botox or dysport maybe the answer for you.
I'm 47 and had serious frown lines in between my eyebrows. Instead of
looking relaxed in the morning, I'd wake up frowning and looked just plain
unhappy when the opposite was true. For the past four years I've done botox
and I could not be happier. I don't look pissed off any more! I still look my
age, but it's a softer me. I do have to report that last year I went about 7-
months without any botox and when I went into Kaiser for a touch up in
Hayward, the effect did not last very long and did not eliminate the lines
between my eyes as much has it had in the past. Well, just last week I went
back to my original dermatologist and she said that I may have developed
anti-bodies to the botox. So she injected me with dysport and it did the trick,
the lines are gone.
I can't answer you about the lines next to your mouth, but you should go in
for a consult and see what they can do for you.
Don't worry about what other people might think of you, think of what you
think of yourself. And if you don't like what you see in the mirror then by all
means do something about it and feel better about yourself. Yes, the needles
do hurt a tad .. but take a deep breath and it will go away. What was most
interesting about the first time I got the injections was that a couple of days
later I could feel my face TRYING to frown and it couldn't.. the muscles were
literally forced to relax. Oh... I recommend Dr. Pessoa in Berkeley. Good
luck!!
A former frowner
Botox will work well for your frown lines (though I use
another brand, called Dysport, which is the same ingredient
but is slightly cheaper and lasts a bit longer for me).
Cost is worth it as I only need it twice a year, and my
doctor seems to offer specials/discounts when I need them.
For the Fred Flintstone lines around nose/mouth area
(nasolabial folds), though, botox will not work. You would
need a filler, like restylane or perlane. You would be
shocked at how well they work, particularly for this area of
the face. And it does look natural. The big drawback is
that it is not cheap, you need it every 3-4 months, and you
will like it so much that you will not want to let it go
once you start. A new filler is expected to be approved by
the fda this year, so the prices on all of them should come
down to compete. I would go to someone like Dr. Maas in SF
for your first session. Good luck!
-no longer looking so crabby
Anyone Else Having this issue with Restylane?
Feb 2010
I am new to Restylane. Walked out of the Dr.'s office looking 10 years younger.
Simply amazing. However, three weeks later, I was back to looking like my tired
self. Went back to the Dr. Got told a story that perhaps the original treatment
was a little natural. Was injected again. Walked out of the Dr.'s office looking
10 years younger. Another three weeks has passed....looking like my old self
again. This stuff is supposed to last 6 months not three weeks.....is this
happening to anyone else?
?!
yes yes yes! I have tried it about 4 times with 3
different doctors and the results were good for about 3
weeks and then completely went away. I am not sure what
the story is- are the drs overselling the timeframe in
order to get us to use it? Are my face wrinkles deeper
than most? either way they should know that when they see
me.
Sign me--Saving for a facelift
anon
Hello! I have pretty extensive experience watching
Restylane and other fillers being administered and I can
tell you that although your complaint isn't very common,
it's a lot more common than you think.
A few things or a combo of a few things could be the
culprit: one, if you have a fast metablism. Women with
fast metabolisms seem to have similar complaints about
filler and botox. Their body seems to break it down a lot
quicker than normal---and yes, within a months time.
Two, you're swollen after the procedure and when the
swelling goes down, you feel you've lost the volume you
had right after the treatment, when in fact you just
needed more filler to begin with. A general rule of thumb
is if your 30 you'll need 1 cc of filler, if your 40
you'll need 2 cc's, 50 3cc's...etc. A very general rule---
some need a lot more for their respective age.
Lastly, different fillers have different molecule sizes
and some even are meant to go in deep near the bone so
they have a ''lifting'' effect. That's why Restylane (small
molecules) can be used in the lips, tear troughs, and for
fine surface wrinkles, but something thicker like Perlane
or Sculptra normally isn't.
Hope that helps...
Anon
Botox is your friend! My friend had the same thing with Restalyne-I haven't had
any issues with Botox...
Botox all the way!
Looking for Place to try Botox
Jan 2010
I succumb! I want to try Botox just once, for the line
between my eyebrows. Would love recommendations for a
place you go and prices, as well as what you like about
them. If you have other alternatives to offer to Botox
that really work for the ''squint line'', I'm open to
hearing about those too.
thanks!
anon
Those lines between my eyes used to drive me nuts as well --
I've heard it's the most common wrinkle area that women get
worked on with Botox. I've gone to Allskin Dermatology in
Berkeley, on Telegraph near Ashby. Terri Dunn is the MD but
for simple procedures like Botox her PA's do the work. She
charges per region of the face treated, not per cc, as many
other places do. For one area on the face it's around $350.
What's nice is that if the results are not what you like
after a couple weeks, you can go back in and get extra
injections (if that's what is needed) at no extra cost.
There is something new, called Dysport, that is the same as
Botox but lasts longer. Good luck! anon
I have that line 'thingy' between my eyebrows too but
scared about the Botox side effects. I read an interesting
post on BPN in December for a acupuncturist who does
cosmetic work named Bina Jangda. Apparently it's a 10 week
course minimum which starts at $1350 for full face. Ouch!
She also has a mini treatment that's 6 treatments for $360
that does just the forehead. After the 4th treatment, the
line is already gone! I'm saving the last two treatments
for my 3 month maintenance visits. I haven't had
acupuncture before and am surprised at how painless and
relaxing it is. And equally surprised at the results. My
forehead is now smooth. I'd try her before the Botox. Her
number is 510-393-7565. Line Free Naturally
Just turned 40 - botox?
Jan 2010
Just turned 40 and cannot believe the wrinkles that seem to have appeared on
my forehead over the past year. I can't even momentarily hide them when I relax
my face.
Am looking for ways to get rid of them or reduce them and wonder if anyone
has any experience with, or information about Botox. Would also welcome
insights about alternative treatments.
Thanks.
Wrinkle concerns
I am a 48 year old woman who feels your pain. Fortunately, I found a less
invasive alternative to Botox. Facial Rejuvination Acupuncture is less
expensive overall with results that affect more than just wrinkles.
I have been seeing Bina Jangda a licensed acupuncturist for about six
months. Bina specializes in this treatment. My results include reduction in
wrinkles, better skin tone, lift of my eye lids and a firmer jaw line. All this
without a chemical injection.
Recently I noticed a black eye on my sister in law. She admitted to me
that Botox was injected in the wrong spot. It took over 10 days for the
black and blue to fade.
Bina can be reached at 510-393-7565. She practices at 7th Heaven on
6th St. in Berkeley and also at Stillpoint Wellness on Union St. in SF.
Best, less wrinkled & loving it
I have used Botox for many years & highly recommend it- I
get numerous comments that I look much younger than my age-
CAVEAT- be careful who you get it from- Don't go to botox
parties where a nurse injects it- Bad injections can make
you look like the governator-
Note this is a long term investment since it must be kept
up meaning, repeating it every 3-6 months for years.
Interestingly, the price in LA is much less than the Bay
Area- enough to justify flying down there to do.
If you are very queasy about injections, it may not be for
you- but nothing works as well- it works by not letting you
make the movement that causes the wrinkle & like a dress
hanging in your closet, the wrinkles will fall out if the
movement ends.
Anon
I'm sure you'll get plenty of advice to either go ahead and
get botox but I will be very frank and suggest that you
get over it and learn to live with aging gracefully.
I am 50 and have tons of lines on my face.
but they are from all those years of smiling and sailing
and living a fun life outdoors, and when I look in the
mirror and see them, I try to say to myself: There's
the proof that I had a great youth!
Crow's Feet Queen
Hi
Jennifer French is an Acupuncturist that specializes in
Woman's health, pediatrics and Facial Rejuvenation. She has
an office in Lafayette near the bart station.
Facial Rejuvenation Acupuncture is a safe way to get the
radiance and tone back in skin and can also focus on fine
lines and wrinkles. Usually a 10-15 treatment commitment.
ANON
There's a reason botox is the most common cosmetic
procedure in the U.S. and Europe, it takes 5 seconds to
administer and it works. Depending on whether you prefer
the Berkeley dose (natural look), or the L.A. dose (more of
a frozen look), choose your doctor accordingly (sometimes
you can just tell by their webpage picture which look they
lean towards) and voice your preferences. If the wrinkles
don't completely disappear in 2 weeks, a good cosmetic
dermatologist can fill the ''static lines'' with filler---
again choose your professional wisely. For people with
strong muscles, retreating every 3 months is fairly common.
Mine seems to hold up for 6 months.
anon
I have had three types of procedures done of my face. One
was botox. I did not think it helped that much and was
really costly. The second I had done was Restalyne-which
is a type of filler that they inject into deeper grooves
(smile lines for example.) This did help but lasted only
about 2 months (they said up to 9 months....) and was
painful and very expensive as well. The third thing I had
done was a very intense laser peel (called Fraxel.) It was
$4K...and incredibly painful. My entire face blistered and
oozed and peeled and it was very ugly and uncomfortable
for at least 10 days (cannot go out in public for a week.
seriously. even my dog was afraid of me) These results
were good though-refreshed skin. Fine lines reduced.
Smoother skin and noticeably refreshed. If I were not
afraid of dying I would just get a facelift! Moderator can
give you my info if you want it. good luck.
former sunbather-now a wrinkly prune
I have used retin-A and it got rid of my ''11's'' the lines
between the eyebrows. Its something you need to keep up or
they come back. If you get a prescription for acne, the
insurance will cover part of the cost.
40-something mom
Hi! Botox is wonderful. The new product on the market is
called Dysport, same thing, same effect, different company.
I got Botox done 2 years ago at 41, and my God, it made me
look SOOO youthful within a week. I get it now between every
4 to 5 months. I have NEVER had any issues with it from the
first time, other than just a feeling of tautness in the
first few days. I get it done on the forehead, between the
brows and around the eyes. It makes all the difference to my
confidence and appearance. Go For it, of course discuss all
the details with your doctor. I go to Reviance at San Mateo
to Dr. Banthia, he is a plastic surgeon: 650-212-7662.
Best,
Youthfully Anon
Doctor recomendations for fillers/ injections?
Dec 2009
I am looking for a doctor that uses fillers such as
Radiesse, Restylane, Sculptra or Prevelle that does cheek/
undereye enhancement. I have had this done several times
by a top notch, super expensive plastic surgeon in San
Francisco with excellent results. However, he just doesn't
use a lot of material for the cost. I also had him do some
other filler/ Botox work that other people have done for me,
and comparatively it's about twice as expensive. Has anyone
had cheek filler/ undereye enhancements by a doctor in the
East Bay? Some doctors that do fillers won't do them in this
particular area of the face, so I need specific doctor
recommendations, not just doctors that do fillers. Please,
no surgery recommendations or opinions of this medical
procedure or lectures on aging gracefully.
Tired of people asking me if i'm tired
I've had Dr. Mike Cedars in Oakland on Pill Hill put in
injectable fillers in my upper cheek-bone area, naso-
labial folds, lips, a ''depression'' below my lower eyelids
and in various deep wrinkles around my lips. I've been
very pleased with his work. Fillers are expensive. He'll
tell you which one he thinks is best for you and with
Botox, he has you come back in about 10-12 days if you're
not satisfied so he can ''touch it up''.
I've been very pleased. Every once in a while I'll get a
bruise but if I try to remember not to take any aspirin or
any other blood thinners before I go in, I'm usually okay.
Good luck. Dr. Cedars is a Plastic Surgeon but he's never
tried to talk me into anything.
Satisfied Patient
You might give Dr. Katie Rodan a call. I recently had this area filled for the first
time with Restalayne. One vial cost me $350. I think I like the result. I think it
might have pocketed a bit, but I am not sure. I had absolutely NO bruising and
it did not hurt.
Good Luck
Botox facial filler--what to expect?
March 2009
Thanks to those who responded and recommended Botox and/or facial
filler to rid one of unwanted deep creases and grumpy lines. Would
like to know what to expect in terms of maintenance and ongoing
costs? I understand that these treatments are psychologically
''addicting.'' Is there any difference in discomfort between
various types of fillers? And, is there any type of treatment that
last longer than others? Are there any doctors I should avoid?
Thanks for any info.
Nervous About Botox
First, resist the temptation to do it on the cheap, especially if you
are going to do fillers. Go to a doctor who has done it a million
times and has a great reputation (Dr. Maas in Pacific Heights is a
lovely guy, or Dr. Matarasso near Union Square are 2 I can suggest).
You will get what you pay for. I know many nurses are skilled at
this, but for your first time, you should be in the best hands
possible.
As far as maintenance, I used to need Botox 3 times a year to destroy
the angry line between my brows. Now, 3 years later, I go about
every 5 mos. When the area spends that much time ''relaxed'', the
natural collagen starts to fill in the line (gradually). As far as
filler, it depends on which you choose (and ask the doctor which they
recommend)and on which area you need it (filling in brow lines,
crowsfeet, etc), but new studies suggest that if you get one
injection, and then a follow up within the next 6 months, that the
results can last up to 18 mos.
It is expensive, but Restylane does have a rebate program (the others
might, too).
For me, having my angry line erased might not make me look younger,
but I sure look happier!
Also, don't worry about them putting in too much filler; if they do,
there is a quick antidote injection that will dissolve the filler.
However, Botox has to wear off, which is why you really should go to
someone who has done tens of thousands of procedures.
Hope that helps!
Filled and fulfilled
I would like to echo the previous poster's advice - go to someone
with a lot of experience. You will indeed get what you pay for.
Also, an experienced practitioner will tell you what your options
are and what you can realistically expect from the results. Be
clear about what you want. Some docs prefer to go for a very
natural look and others like to eradicate all wrinkles and lines.
Have an idea of what you think is ideal for you and discuss it. I
have been going Dr. Christine Avakoff (510) 452-2833 for about 5
years and she's great.
-anon
Reasonably Priced Botox?
Feb 2009
Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced place to receive a Botox
treatement? East Bay Location preferred. Does not have to be a
M.D., but needs to be highly reputable. Please do not recommend
Dr. Christine Brozowski.
-Thank you in advance.
I recommend Dr. Robert Aycock in Walnut Creek and Greenbrae. I have
had various work done by him and he is top notch. You will have to
decide if his rates are reasonable. 925-937-8377 or 415-925-1700.
kl
Try Aspen Medspa in Lafayette. I went there three times after going
to Dr. Brozowski, and they are much more reasonable and did a fine
job. They charge $11 a unit and you can see either a doctor or
nurse practitioner. You could also try Dr. Kelly Hood in Lafayette,
who is an excellent dermatologist and who I currently see. I think
normally she charges $15 per unit but she often has promotions and
may match what Aspen Medspa is charging. Everything is more
negotiable in the current environment.
youthful mom
Hi-
great Place: Amoure Skin Care, Ana Moure RN
4110 Redwood Road 510-290-7138
Oakland CA 94619
I never thought I could afford Botox until a fellow local mom I know
who is also a registered nurse and has her own skin care salon told
me indeed I could! I was elated. I have been getting Botox now for
about 1.5 years and it has really made me feel and look
wonderful/less old. Her prices are very reasonable and she has lots
of experience. I really like her she makes you feel at home.IN
additon to her salon she also assists as a nurse for cosmetic
surgeons.
no more lines!!!
I recommend Harmony Beauty Spa Center in Albany, 1365 Solano Ave,
(510) 527-0432. There is a M.D, an easthetician and R.N. there. They
all friendly and informative.
anon
Botox/restylane advice-when to start/who to use
Jan 2006
I've looked in the archives but would love some updated
recommendations on Botox/Restylane. I have started noticing
that my fine lines are much more prominent, and while I love
that I've had life experiences that contribute to those
laugh/love lines, I also don't want to miss the chance to work
on making them less visible. Does anyone have any advice on
when to start the treatments (in particular, does it make sense
to start to do them now to fend off more aging)? What about
Botox vs. Restylane ... has anyone done both and prefered one
over the other? And lastly, who would you recommend? I don't
want to come out looking frozen or stripped of emotion ... just
a bit ''brighter''! Thanks!
Anon.
I started doing Botox about 5 years ago because I have a deep line down the middle of my very furrowed brow. I went to a couple of places but ultimately ended up very happy with Dr. Pessoa at Dermatology Associates in Berkeley. She's a dermatologist, very warm, answers all of your questions/concerns, and the whole event is amazingly quick and painless. I strongly recommend you go to an MD. I'm not sure who's licensed to dispense it, but I just felt much more comfortable being in a physician's office and knew that everything is legal and ok. It's not cheap--about $350. But it lasts a good 6 months and the more you do it, the less frequently you'll do it in the future. Re: frozen face. Not at all. I think a lot of the movie stars (Nicole Kidman comes to mind) are Botoxing every square inch of their face. I just did my forehead. The only comments I ever got were that I looked well rested. NO ONE know I do it and I'll keep it that way. No experience with restylane. Sorry. But I'!
m a big Botox fan in moderation.
Obviously, signed anonymous
Anon
Depends what lines are bothering you. Botox is for horizontal forehead lines as well as the vertical frown lines between your eyebrows. It temporarily ''freezes'' the muscles causing those lines and things definitely look smoother while it's in effect. The nice thing is, it's a quick and nearly painless treatment. Trouble is, it only lasts 6-8 weeks.
Restylane is a filler and lasts up to 12 months. It is quite effective, but depending on where you inject it, can be excruciatingly painful ... I got my lips and nasolabial lines done once, and have not yet had the courage to do it again, even though my doctor promised to use a nerve block this time. I prefer lip-plumping cosmetics, and will live with the lines for now. Also I had bruises and red marks that lasted about 2 weeks after the injections.
When you start any of this is totally up to you. I would say you have to balance the cost of the injections against how much those fine lines are bothering you.
Q
Here's what I know with Botox...I love it! I look natural, feel good and still have lots of expression in my face. Currently, I have only around my eyes done. What I like about my doc is that she understands that I'm on a budget. So, I'm slowing moving into this. Restlyn is in my future around my upper lips. There's alot you can do, and Dr. Elizabeth Lee in Berekely is a wonderful surgeon, mother of four, who understands, is non judegemntal and gives compassionate advise. Check out her web site www.artfulsurgery.com. She's the only one I would trust, over a dermotoligst since she understands the bone structure etc. She's a plastic surgeon who doesn't lead you down a false road and listens to what you want to achieve.
best of luck.
happy with the results
Great Botox Doctor?
Nov 2005
Can anyone recommend a great MD from whom to get Botox
injections in the Berkeley or surrounding area? How much does
it cost, say to get rid of a crease between the eyebrows?
Thanks!
Dr. Stephen Daane does botox injections in SF and Marin, and he
charges significantly less than other doctors. (He manages this by
scheduling patients in such a way that there's no waste.) As I recall, this
kind of thing generally costs about $400, and I had two areas done for a
little under $300 (it's been over a year and a half since I did it last, so I
forget exact figures.)
I went to another plastic surgeon for the same procedure, and I feel that
Dr. Daane did a much better job - he made several small injections to
very targeted areas so that I was able to retain natural movement
everywhere but the ''problem area.'' He's also a very pleasant person.
His office number in SF is 415/561-0542. Have fun!
K.C.
I hate to give away my secret, but I go to Aura Skin Care on
San Pablo Avenue in Albany for laser hair removal, and have had
botox injections there to remove the crease between my
eyebrows. Aura Skin Care is less expensive than other offices
I called for both botox and laser hair removal and the results
of both procedures have been excellent. I was very nervous at
my initial appointment and Dr. Kawai spent so much time with me
that I started getting nervous about her schedule! I stopped
getting botox because I just couldn't justify the cost, but
wish I could do it again. Dr. Kawai administered the botox
herself and it was easy and painless.
Aura Skin Care fan
Which doctor for Botox?
April 2005
I am thinking about having Botox and read all the recomendations
on it. I have done it tuice before, the first time I liked, but
the second it did not have the results I was expecting. So I
would like to change Doctors.
Have anyone had experience with it with any of this Drs. and how
did you like it?
Thank you
Anon
I would choose, and have chosen Dr.Lee to do my Botox treatment,
and have been very happy each time. I think it is important to
know what kind of doctor you are going to for invasive
procedures, even those as ''simple'' as Botox injections.
Dr. Lee is a plastic surgeon, certified by the American Board of
Plastic Surgery. I feel because she has operated on the face,
she has a really clear understanding of where those muscles are
located, so her injections are precise. Dr. Rodan is a
dermatologist and Dr. Brozowski is a family practice doctor. I
think they have different training than a plastic surgeon does.
Dr. Lee's office and staff are very nice and helpful. Dr. Lee
makes me feel very comfortable whenever I am in the office. She
distracts me during the injection and is very quick and
efficient so even though I hate injections, it is not a bad
experience at all. She doesn't rush like some doctors do.
Also, she is cautious about treatment and will provide touchups
at no charge if needed in the first two weeks after treatment.
I could not recommend Dr. Lee more highly. I think it is
important to choose your physicians carefully and according to
their training.
Anon
Dr. Brozowski is a family practice doctor. I saw her for a
general medical issue once and will never go back. I felt like
she didn't listen to me when I was describing my symptoms and
in fact, cut me off mid-description. I never even got to tell
her what my full problem was before she wanted to prescribe
medication. I went to see another doctor who heard me out,
recognized a complicated situation, and helped me out
(completely different diagnosis than Dr. Brozowski). I have
not seen either of the other doctors, but have heard that Dr.
Lee is good.
not so satisfied customer
I was a patient of Dr. Lee's for a few years but found her
prices for simple cosmetic procedures like botox to be very
pricey relative to other doc's. She also spends a lot of time
tooting her own horn. I have since switched to Dr.Potozkin in
Walnut Creek. More reasonable, more professional office. Dr.
Lee's wait time for patients is ridiculously long too.
I saw Dr. Brozowski for lazer hair removal. She was quite
expensive, brusque, and my legs were scarred by the procedure.
I would never go back to her for any procedure.
anon.
There have been a few postings lately asking for recommendations about
botox or peels from Dr. Brozowski. One response was from
someone who had seen her for another medical issue and was unhappy with
the not very thorough care she received. We had a similarly bad experience
when we went to her for travel immunizations. She recommended over $1000
of immunizations which were not even recommended by the CDC and did not
go over the risks, such as the 5% risk of significant side effects, including
anaphylactic shock, in one of the immunizations. Botox and chemical peels
can be very dangerous in the wrong hands, and I would be very cautious about
going to a practitioner who was not being cautious about other procedures.
negative experience
I have only seen Dr. Brozowski and had a very negative
experience. She was extremely expensive, was not really willing
to listen to what I wanted (like the kind of doctor that spends
about 2 minutes with you and then acts like the room is on fire),
and I had a horrible adverse reaction to the procedure (wound up
in the hospital actually).
Anon
less expensive Botox treatment ?
May 2003
The going rate for Botox seems to be about $ 400 for the first
site and around $ 300 for additional sites. Does anyone know of
a doctor (preferably in the East Bay) with more reasonable
rates ?
-anon
try dr. christopher debacker at optima in hayward
(510.886.3937). the price depends on the site, but the average
cost is $275.
suzie
Dr. Rodan for Botox?
April 2003
I read recently a post about Botox that referenced Dr. Kathy
Rodan. I am a huge fan of her ProActiv products and know she
has a practice nearby. I am not very happy with my current
dermatologist and would like to switch. Has anyone out there
had experience with her? Not sure if she just does cosmetic
dermatology? I would like to see her for a persistent sun
related rash, some slight acne and possibly a Botox treatment.
Anon
I LOVE Dr. Rodan. I started out using her Proactiv products
for acne, and now use her for Botox and dermabrasion. She also
has a great new skin care line out for aging skin. Within
three weeks of using it people started complimenting me on my
skin.
From comparing notes, she is not that expensive, although Botox
is indeed pricey. A quick update, her office is now selling a
numbing cream to put on before hand. It seems a little cheesey
to me (to sell it that is) but others tell me that their
doctors don't even offer it. Since Botox is not pain free I
elected to purchase it.
Finally, she has helped me with skin rashes, yearly skin exams
and the like. So for me, she is an enthusiastic thumbs up.
elaine
I have seen Kathy Rodan for skin cancer spots, which she
removed, and poison oak. I highly recommend her and her office
staff is very nice as well.
anon
April 2003
RE: Forehead Lift
Before you go ahead with a forehead lift, you may want to give
Botox a try. I have a friend (mid 30's) and my mom (mid 60's)
who both use it and really get great results. It's not cheap,
but is certainly cheaper initially than surgery, and you can see
how you like the results before making a more permanent
decision. Doing the line between your eye brows is generally
between $250 and $350, and will last 3-4 months. Also, if you
keep doing it, it seems that over time you can go longer amounts
of time between injections, as the muscles seem to 'forget'. I'm
not sure how much doing all the lines in your forehead would
be... Anyways, I would recommend finding a reputable
dermatologist and going that route before going with a forehead
lift.
Stephanie
RE: Forehead Lift
I can't answer about a forehead lift, but I have had a very
similar problem, and resolved it easily with Botox. The lines
between my eyes could have held a quarter, after decades of
squinting from my nearsightedness. And my high cheeks bones
were causing long wrinkles running down my cheeks. Botox is
expensive, but much less so than plastic surgery. I go to
Katie Rodan in Oakland (she created the proactiv line of adult
acne products, which I am also a big fan of)
Rockridge mom
August 2002
Has anyone tried Botox? Would you do it again and could you
recommend a good practitioner?
Tired of frown lines
Recommendations received:
Christopher Debacker
Other advice:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/06/health/06CASE.html
This NY Times article is titled ''A Peril of the Veil of Botox''.
This is obviously not input on a practicitioner but I found it of
interest. The basic point of the article is that botox
injections, which work through minor muscle paralysis, can
change the expressiveness of your face and can create a bit of a
'poker face.' If you think about it, many of those laugh and
frown lines come from doing just that. ...And perhaps that's not
a bad thing! On the other hand, I was a little surprised to see
my wrinkles in a (brightly lit) mirror the other day. Usually my
eyesight isn't good enough to notice them! :-)
Sally
Feb. 2001
Does anyone have any experience with receiving either
Botox or Collogen shots? Was it effective, and did
you continue the regimen?
I want to make sure that the procedure is 1)safe, and 2)effective. No
use wasting money if its not worth the time and cost.
A close friend gets botox injections between the eyebrows, and she looks 10 years younger!
Suzanne
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