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Pre-orals with a toddler

June 2005

Hi! I am returning to school in the Fall after taking 3 semesters off to stay at home with my son, who will be 18 months in June. Just wondering if anyone has advice about finishing course work and preparing for orals with a young child. Thanks! Charlotte


I think the answer depends in part on your timeline. Do you have to finish your course work and take orals within a certain number of semesters after returning? If not, you can allow yourself some leeway in terms of your expectations. You certainly won't progress at the same pace as you did before your son was born but that is not necessarily a bad thing. In many ways, being a graduate student is the perfect time to have a baby, assuming you're headed to an academic position later. It may feel hard now but there is much more to try to balance once you're an assistant professor.

I found that my work efficiency became much better after my daughter was born because I could work only in certain time blocks. When I sat down to work for a couple of hours during her nap or after bed I knew that I wasn't going to get anything more than that so I worked hard! And focused. I tried to think about my studies as I would a "regular" job in terms of putting in a certain general number of hours each week at it, rather than letting it take over my whole life as it did before my daughter came along.

Also, if you can afford to put your son in a preschool program or day care for at least a few hours of each day, or a couple days a week, you are likely to get a lot more done and feel a lot less crazy!

Good luck! It's worth it.


Family is a priority: stick it out for the PhD or bolt with an MS?

June 2005

I think this forum might be just the place to go with this question: do I stick it out in a Ph.D. program, when I know I don't want a tenure-track job, or should I bolt with the M.S? I'm in biology/ecology. I've realized that I don't have it in me to go for the high-pressure academic positions--I just don't have that drive. Ideally, i'd like either a research position (government, university, or foundation), OR a teaching job, not both. Will a Ph.D. actually decrease my chances for employment in biological/environmental sciences? I'd like to stay in the bay area for my family, and it seems like most of the jobs that come up in the government listings around here are GS 9-11--meaning for an M.S. More: I'm three years into my program, have a 3-year-old, would like to have another kid in the next year or two, and time with my family is a big priority. Thanks in advance for any insight!


I could answer this in the physical sciences, but the world of biology is I believe quite different, so it really would be good to check with a bio type. For teaching- depends on level. High school, pay level is higher for PhD, but it is definitely not necessary - MS is fine. Community College, mostly MS is fine, I believe. Industry, you will end up with a more autonomous job, more research independence for example. (I know a couple of people who decided to come back to get their PhD later after getting frustrated with not being allowed to be independent in an industrial environment). Foundation (and industry) - this sounds like non-research jobs, in which case, I believe an MS would be fine.

A PhD can open some doors, but an MS opens a lot of doors too. I don't think a PhD is (in my experience) a minus, but depending on the career goals it is not necessarily a plus, and as a result if it were me, and I was not into the work I was doing to get the PhD I would not stick around just for the credential. The only thing to be sure of is that you are not just going through a temporary motivational crisis, or just with the wrong PhD advisor. The PhD is hard work, so is an academic career, but for some of us, we love what we do and the work is therefore mostly fun, and quite a blessing to have the opportunity for independence (no real boss) and to do what interests us. I think sometimes all that is obvious is the work, but I get to do a huge variety of things, mostly very interesting, and mostly by my own choice (e.g. answering this letter, when I really should be writing a research paper that is long overdue!).

So, that is the best answer I can give. I think these global career choices finally really come down to what your guts are telling you is the right thing to do. Finding something you really enjoy, and that includes being able to balance work and family, is always the goal.


I'm not in biology, I'm in engineering, but perhaps my experience will be similar. I started grad school when my two kids were older than yours - 3 and 6. I had been working in a different field for a number of years before I went back to school. I actually found it a lot easier to be a mom in grad school than in the work force because I had a lot more flexibility in my schedule. I could usually (not always but usually!) arrange classes and meetings for times while the kids were in school, and could take off during the day to help out at their school. So one thing to think about is the short run: staying in the PhD program will probably give you a lot more flexibility in your family life than if you stop at the MS and go to work in the next year or two, and it would also be easier to take time off to have a baby if you are a grad student than if you are just starting your career.

As to long-term career choices, I think that PhD-level work often can be more stimulating, it's usually more money, and at a higher level. Getting a higher salary, and being your own boss translates to more flexibility for moms who want to be with their kids. In engineering a PhD opens you up to a whole range of jobs that are not available to people at the MS level, not only academic jobs, but also higher level positions in industry and research. I have heard people say that it's easier to find a job with an MS than with a PhD, but I have never seen this in practice. What I have seen is that a PhD is often more attractive to a small company, even if there is an MS candidate with the same skills who will take less money, because having PhDs on board brings the company prestige and credibility with clients and financial backers, etc. I have mom friends who stopped with the MS and others who got the PhD, and I would say that there is no difference in how long it took to find a job in the area where they wanted to live, or in job satisfaction. My friends with the PhDs just make more money!

Another option is to get your MS, and go back to school for the PhD later when your kids are in school. Good luck whatever you decide! Engineer mom


How do you handle grad courses and exams? I am dying!

July 2004

Hi. I am wondering if there are any other grad. student parents (especially moms) out there who have children but have not yet taken their qualifying exams. How are you handeling course work and studying? I am a second year student who will probably take my exams in the Spring of 2005. My first child was born in December 2003. I took spring semester off and am now enrolled in summer school (for language). I am dying! I never have more than 15 minutes at a time to do my work and feel like I am just scraping by in class; consequently, I am really worried about starting seminar classes again in the fall. We were not accepted into UC daycare so now I am also faced with this challenge. Others who have been there before, or who are there now - how did/do you do it? Thanks!


Hi, I am not in exactly the same situation as you but it's pretty similar; I thought I'd write, if only to say that I feel for you. The difference is that I took my quals when I was pregnant (2 weeks before my son was born, in Dec. 2004), so I managed to avoid having to take classes and deal with a baby at the same time. However, I am teaching this summer, so is my husband (also a grad student), we have no childcare, and it is hell: our house is a mess, we're constantly exhausted and hungry (we don't have time to eat, let alone cook), and we are just barely scraping by in keeping up with the reading/grading/leading section for our classes. We did get into UC Childcare for the fall(my advice about that: find a way to lower your income for a semester so you qualify for the 'subsidized ! care'-- we just *barely* scraped in) but even with the childcare we will be scrambling (it's only 4 hours a day b/c my son is in the infant group). I have found that one thing I need is a place to work away from my son and a solid block of regular time (i.e. the same times every dayto work in, but I guess anyone can tell you that. The question is how to get it! We are moving to the UC Village so that we'll be in a more child oriented community, because we have felt somewhat 'disconnected' from all our old, babyless friends since our son was born. I tried to join some mom's groups but found that as a student mom, I somehow wasn't in the same situation (not really stay at home, not really working!) as the other moms I met. If you ever want to talk, email me. Gradparenttoo
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