Finding Young Parents Of Color
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April 2003
Our first baby is due on May 23rd and we are what most of the
parents on this network are: well educated, and extremely
thorough about researching what is best for our child and
family. We've taken and are taking some very valuable
childbirth classes throughout the pregnancy and are currently
enrolled in Zann Ericks great childbirth prep class. However,
the one thing that both my husband and I have been unable to
find is a real community of new parents that are comfortable
meeting with and sharing experiences outside of class with
parents of color opr those from a lower socio-economic status.
In every class we have attended we are the only people
of color, and are in the minority in terms of our age (25), and
economic status. At the major resource store here in San
Francisco (Natural Resources) I've found that the people there
make a lot of assumptions about me based on my appearance and
have had some of the clerks give me very condescending
unsolicited advice. Other times I've tried to strike up
conversations with other mothers or mothers-to-be and found they
look at me like we couldn't possibly have anything to talk
about. It is very frustrating.
I am beginning to worry because as I near the big day I have
read and heard from other parents that isolation is a big
contributor to the post-partum blues, and I already suffer from
depression. We are the only people in our circle of friends
that are having and will have a baby. My girlfriend suggested
that we each join a new parents group, but we are concerned that
these groups will similiarly lack in diversity and leave us
feeling as isolated and alienated as many of the groups in the
classes we've attended have. We'd love to reach out, and don't
need everyone to look like us for us to feel comfortable, in
fact we are dedicated to raising our children around the
diversity we have been so blessed to enjoy. However, we would
like to find some groups in San Francisco (this is where we
live), or in the east bay if necessary, that are welcoming to
people of color as raising children of color presents its own
diverse challenges and gifts. Please let me know if you have
any suggestions on where we could look...thanks so much for
listening.
Suggest a visit to Birth and bonding center in Berkeley,
they host new parent classes and groups.
Suggest East Bay Moms, look for like families in that list.
Suggest Berkeley Montessori Preschool, with diverse family
community.
We live in Oakland, and have little experience in San Francisco.
Keep looking. What you want is out there.
Theresa
It might not be what you're looking for, as it was specifically a
mom's group, but I happened upon a ''Mocha Mom's'' group last
friday AM at the Emeryville Barnes & Noble. Our family is not,
uh, eligible, but they were great and welcomed my son and me
around the train table while they met.
Anyway, it turns out that it's a pretty big group with various
chapters, the Emeryville one being relatively new. Lots of new
babies. They were very nice women, and all seemed to be of the
socioeconomic/age groups you were interested in connecting with.
Jean
bummed to hear that you're facing such stereotyping in s.f. of
all places. i too have been looking for a community of
ethnically diverse (and in my case, also politically
progressive) parents with young children. we really enjoy
family music shows at the ashkenaz on san pablo, near gilman in
berkeley. i find the attendees to be open-minded, friendly and
pretty ethnically diverse. congrats on your baby-to-be. feel
free to email me. -- cindy
Hi,
Just so you know... I have had similar experiences at Natural
resources in SF (I am not of color.) The same condescension first
timers might get as a meat eater at an ultra spiritual yoga
studio.
Have you tried DayOne? http://www.dayonecenter.com/
Good Luck!
Tam
Hello,
I can relate to your posting 100%. We are also a young family of
color. We would love to talk and meet you and your family. I
could have written this post before my daughter was born. I
would suggest that you keep reaching out. Don't let a few
people ''burst your bubble'' ie...the unsolicited advice
givers...there are many very nice people within this network.
Please feel free to call or email me if you like.
Camille
Hi!
I absolutely understand what you are saying and am very
interested to read what other people will have to say. We used
to live in Noe Valley and racial diversity is THE reason we
moved out to Oakland. My kids were always the only African-
Americans anywhere I would take them. It was getting
uncomfortable. It is very hard to find what you are looking for
in SF. I found that affluent people of color in SF are scattered
all over. And then wait until it's time for your kid to go to
school...
I, too, had ''the look'' but I got used to it because of the type
of family we are: my husband and I are white and we have 2
African-American boys and one Caucasiand girl and we speak
French on top of it.
E-mail me and we can chat further about playgroups in Noe Valley
and Oakland.
marie-claude
I can truly relate to what you are saying. I have found a small
community of good friends to share in the experience of raising
my daughter. But, as i just said, it is small. Please write me
to talk about this in more detail.
Gail
You are wise. I never realized how important the support of
other moms would be till I was kneee deep in feeling lonely. It
is great to get your support system in place while pregnant,
although those who were there during pregnancy (lots) are nto
the ones there afterwards!) I also found that mothers of
slightly older children made the best support in general.
If I use labels to describe myself, I am an immigrant, single
mother of color with a multi-ethnic child who stays at home(what
a mouthful!), and I found all the groups I joined were mostly
married and caucasian with their own homes, etc... Somehow I
still expected to fit in as I always connect with diverse
groups, but I never did. One exception was MOCHA (Stay at Home
Mothers of Color)advertised on Oprah, where I felt we could talk
about real life issues with people of various backgrounds and
where I could see people like me! Here is the contact for the
lady who runs it in Oakland - Kalybsmommy@aol.com. They have a
national website: www.mochamoms.org where you can post for San
Francisco groups. There is also a group for young moms of color -
it is in Oakland on Grand Ave run by a group that supports
Native Americans or something. Sorry I can't find the contact
right now.
I also actively recruited moms in the park by talking and
exchanging numbers whenever I met someone I liked. It is
amazingly easy to chat with strangers when you have children in
tow. A few of these have paid off over time. I've still only
found one mom of color I feel is a friend. But I have other moms
that I really like now.
My best findings recently has been hooking up with people who
share most of my concerns - single moms, regardless of
ethnicity, or kids ages. We are finding ways to support - not
just talk. I'm still sad that my old friends can't fit into my
new life. I honestly think only a mom really 'gets' what it is
like to be a mom. But my circle expands daily. Keep searching as
you've done on this network and do it elsewhere too. You can
form a group in your area just by asking for it online and in
local cafes. I found a mom in my neighborhood on craigs list!
Keep reaching out and don't give up, because no matter how easy
your child and childbirth are (mine was made in heaven!) you
still need support of other moms. I wish you the best of luck
and congratulations for planning ahead. All the best!
mamainama
Bananas is the name of a wonderful parenting/ families community
resource center in Oakland. Although you may not want to come
all the way over here, you could call them and see if there is a
similar organization in San Francisco. Bananas is located on
Claremont Blvd. near the 51st Street and Telegraph intersection,
right off Highway 24.
Just some of the resources at Bananas include:
support groups of all kinds
parenting classes
child care provider classes and workshops
quarterly newsletter that includes listings for babysitting,
nanny share, playgroups, etc. FREE
info and assistance in choosing child care FREE
child care listings, FREE
People that use/ work at Bananas are the rainbow of colors and
they want to help you find high quality resources at lowest cost.
Take care!
Tiffany
My husband and I had a similar experience in terms of classes.
I joined a new-moms group at the Birth and Bonding center in
Albany (on Solano) and have been happy with the diversity of
that group. My husband and I are in our early 30s and our child
is 4 months old - we are more than willing to share experiences
and open to meeting if you would like to. We live in Richmond
in the east bay. Good luck and let me know if you would like to
talk/get together.
Kristin
Your post definitely resonated with us. We are a couple of color
in the East Bay, educated professionals, 30 and 33 years old, and
parents of a beautiful 6-month old boy. (We also graduated from
Zann Erick's childbirth class!) We have had similar experiences
to yours when we walk our son through the neighborhood, the park,
and the world of baby stores, ranging from a vague feeling that
we don't ''belong,'' to condescending behavior and exclusion from
conversations. It has definitely made our new parent experience
more difficult, especially making me feel lonely and isolated at
times (I recently made the career change to full-time
stay-at-home mom). I got pregnant shortly after we moved to CA
from the east coast, so I didn't know many people at all (and
none who were/are expecting). I really expected to start meeting
folks once our son was born by making the rounds of mothers'
groups, playgrounds, etc. but this has proven to be more
difficult than I imagined. I have met some wonderful people, but
as you say, diversity of age, income, ethnicity, and experience
have been hard to come by. The ''diversity'' of the Bay Area is so
often extolled, but I have to ask, where is that diversity when
it comes to family life? Needless to say, we were thrilled to see
your post.
We don't know of any parenting groups that emphasize the needs
and experiences of families of color, but (1) we will be eagerly
scanning for other replies to your message which may have more
information, and (2) if no group like this exists, why not create
that community for ourselves? Feel free to contact us at any
time; we'd love to talk.
Devanie and Francisco
I totally understand your plight. My husband and I have been in
the same situation. However, we are of the same or perhaps
higher socioeconomic status as many people we have met in
prenatal classes and other classes we attended prior to the
birth of our son. We recently moved to the Bay Area from the
east coast. We are a family of color and enjoyed a vibrant
multiracial/multicultural social community while we lived on the
east coast. Because I have always thought of the Bay Area as
loaded with progressive people I was very surprised at the
reception we received here when we attempted to approach folks
socially. I am an attorney and my husband is a professor and
attorney. We have three very beautiful children. My sense of
isolation was far greater than my husband's because for the
first year and a half I was a SAHM living in an upper middle
class neighborhood in Berkeley where ours was probably one of
three families of color. The other families had no children.
(Well, you get the picture.) Were it not for my husband's
professional contractual obligations here, we would have
returned to the east coast shortly after our son was born.
You are not imagining things. The isolation is real. People do
treat you as though 1) you are an alien; 2) that you have no
business attempting to interact with them given your
differences; 3) that those differences can never be bridged;
etc. etc. Anyhow, like many people of color who have come
before us, the onus is on us to make the moves. We must
overcome the hesitancy we feel in making an attempt to connect
with folks, regardless of our fear of rejection. One thing that
helped me to overcome those feelings was the notion that if the
person rejects or rebuffs my friendship, then it is her/his
loss. I am a vibrant, fun, and open person who is willing to
have many different kinds of experiences. I believe that my
many experiences and my openess to people has made me a better
person. You sound like you are that kind of person and I admire
you for that. People who are willing to emerge from their
protective cocoons to interact with people of different races
and cultures despite the prospect of rejection in my opinion are
better for the experiences. I did find however, that after I
made my initial connections with people then those connections
led to others and so on. The other thing I did was to ask the
few people we knew here to put me in touch with other people in
the area who have a similar background as mine.
The bottom line is this, you cannot single handedly change the
way people think in terms of race and ethnicity, but you can
change the way you think and feel about yourself. I believe
that if we approach people who are already prejudiced with an
anticipation for rejection, they will sense your hesitancy and
feel that they do not have to meet you half-way to do the work
of socializing.
I cannot give you recommendations for any such established
groups in San Francisco, but I would suggest you starting one
yourself. Your posting on this website is a first step. I hope
that you will get many responses or offers of support and
suggestions here. Please feel free to contact me, perhaps
before the birth of your child (incidentally, my first child's
birthday is the same as your due date) and I can perhaps put you
in touch with others.
My best regards to you and hope you can make the connections you
seek. I do admire you for taking the steps you have to head off
the possibility of postpartum depression. You can contact me at
_______. Best of luck.
Anon
There used to be an organization called ''What are you 2000?'' It
is listed as geared towards diverse ethnic families. Anyone know
what happened to it? The web address doesn't lead anywhere.
ethnic mom
I didn't see the origiinal posting, so I'm sorry if this is not quite applicable,
but I did see the response this week and I just wanted to add my own
experience to the mix. I, too, moved from the east coast and felt really
isolated, as though people treated me like an alien when I tried to be
friendly, rebuffed any attempts at communication, etc. ...but I'm
caucasian, dark blonde hair, pretty waspy-looking really. My husband
and I also thought we'd move back as soon as I finished school, but 4
years later we have managed to develop some friendships and have
grown to love it here. So I just wanted to mention that I had a very similar
experience even though I'm white.
Dear New Parents-
I am the mother of a one-year old, and I have some thoughts and
possible resources for you. First, my experience is sort of the
reverse of yours right now-- I am caucasian and live in a small
apartment building with African American neighbors, and I wish
that my neighbors would be friendlier with me. In particular,
there is a young couple with a five year old whom I would
really enjoy getting to know, but they don't seem very
responsive to my efforts to chat, etc. At the same time, I
don't want to seem pushy or intrusive. So, desite the lousy
experiences you have had so far, I hope you won't be
discouraged. This is still the Bay Area and the right people
are certainly out there and waiting for you to find them. Also,
please remember that people of all colors (or lack thereof) can
be, well, nurds, rather than bigots. Not everybody has the
confidence to approach people they would like to know better
and actually offer an invitation to get together. Your obvious
gifts, education, and so forth may be intimidating to others
who have less self-confidence than you do.
As for resources, two wonderful professionals have made all the
difference in my experience as a new mother, and they also
happen to be African American. They are very knowledgeable and
may be able to give you some leads for the kind of parents'
group you are looking for. One is my obgyn and the doctor who
delivered my baby- Dr. Kevin Scott Smith and he may be reached
at his Montclair (Oakland) office at 510-339-8194. He also has
an office in downtown Oakland, in Chinatown, but I don't have
the number. The other is the director of the daycare my son
attends, the Model School, and an educator of childcare
professionals and parents. Her name is Dr. Daisy Mante. By the
way, the Model School, 510-549-2799, in Berkeley, is a very
diverse place with a great atmosphere and a very active
parents' group-- see this web site for more info about the
Model School. There are about 75 kids, from 3 months through
pre-kindergarten.
Finally, not to be sappy, but I hope most of all that you
really get to enjoy and look forward to this incredible,
magical time with your new baby-- including right now! That's
what this is all about. For me, this first year has gone by way
too fast-- I'd give anything to relive it, especially those
first few months. I wish you all the very best!
hilari
What are You 2000? is part of I-Pride, a wonderful
organization that's all about mixed race and ethnicity. While
it sounds like it may not focus directly on your situation, it's a
very supportive and interesting group that's made up of
mostly upper-middle class interracial/intercultural families.
Lauren
I was so sorry to read about the difficulty you've had
connecting with new parents. I am a mid-income caucasian
american and I just wanted to offer my perspective. We live in
Oakland because we really value diversity and we wish we had
even more friends of color. So I want to thank you for reaching
out and offer encouragement because I believe there are so many
caucasian parents who want friends of color. I hope you find the
support and community you need.
parent in Oakland
i don't have anything to help you personally since i'm white and
clearly your problems are NOT just like mine.
but i do know that some cool women of color in the area can be
found at www.mamasquilt.org.
- white chick with a clue
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